how do i find surgeons that wont reject me

[valentine]

yes the question sounds low iq but seriously, it seems theres noone here in the netherlands that could help me
they dont even do canthopexy which is the bare minimum in terms of what i need
how are mfs out there getting lefort and obo, im guessing ill have to go to turkey where quality standarts are lower because its just not possible to get the procedures i want here

 

[BigBallsLarry]

travel to other countries for surgeries as you mentioned

 

[valentine]

travel to other countries for surgeries as you mentioned

quality standarts are lower there

 

[xevuxia]

Dnr
Maybe have achivable expactations

 

[valentine]

Dnr
Maybe have achivable expactations

what a pointless comment

 

[mikeperry271]

dutch doctors are quite conservative, you need to really be convincing.
also did you visit private clinics or regular doctors?

 

[xevuxia]

what a pointless comment

No surgeon would accept you if you want unachivable results
Only if the doctor is spineless

 

[BigBallsLarry]

quality standarts are lower there

i mean surgeons obviously wont just agree to something without medial justification and realistic outcomes.

just do your research, visit specialized craniofacial and oculopladtic surgeons and email the ones you can't reach.

if you can't find any in Netherlands look for a closest non shady option

 

[valentine]

No surgeon would accept you if you want unachivable results
Only if the doctor is spineless

canthopexy isnt that difficult and im asking them if they can fix scleral show
theres nothing impossible here

 

[ybuyhgui]

what a pointless comment

nope. Foreign doctors will tell you they can completely remodel your face with a ml of filler, western surgeons won't blatantly lie to you.

Only if the doctor is spineless

more so money hungry than spineless

 

[mikeperry271]

more so money hungry than spineless

so true
many surgeons in eg turkey will even upsell you bullshit procedures to make more money

 

[ybuyhgui]

so true
many surgeons in eg turkey will even upsell you bullshit procedures to make more money

Like dr Taban throwing in 20k OBO's for some minor scleral show cases as if it’s a casual procedure, most surgeons are truly horrible people

 

[IDontBlameAnybody]

yes the question sounds low iq but seriously, it seems theres noone here in the netherlands that could help me
they dont even do canthopexy which is the bare minimum in terms of what i need
how are mfs out there getting lefort and obo, im guessing ill have to go to turkey where quality standarts are lower because its just not possible to get the procedures i want here

I went to a clinic for buccal fat removal back in June, the nurse (not even a fking surgeon haha), who hosted my consultation, instantly rejected me and told me some cope and how my other features are so good and didn't get my problem at all.

A month later I went to another top clinic, there the consultation was hosted by a good maxfac surgeon, who was ready for a discussion and also understood my problem. And a month later I went through with the surgery

Go visit a few clinics first, the fact that 1 clinic rejects you doesn't mean that the other will. Also yeah be realistic, some people go to a consultation and say that they don't know what they need but they wanna look like Megan Fox or Jordan Barret.

Also for canthopexy, use ChatGPT or Google to find a clinic / surgeon in Netherlands that performs eye surgeries like canthopexy or canthoplasty.

 

[IDontBlameAnybody]

This is what GPT had to say about "netherlands canthoplasty"

 

[IDontBlameAnybody]

Like dr Taban throwing in 20k OBO's for some minor scleral show cases as if it’s a casual procedure, most surgeons are truly horrible people

Sounds like some people here who discuss getting Lefort 2 and 3 for aesthetic purposes extremely casually. Like if someone legit thinks you can get a lefort 2 or 3 from a good surgeon for aesthetic purposes, you have officially lost touch with the reality.

Like lefort 3 literally seperates your whole fucking face from your skull.

Oh and usually the people who discuss it will never ever get something done.

 

[valentine]

A month later I went to another top clinic, there the consultation was hosted by a good maxfac surgeon, who was ready for a discussion and also understood my problem. And a month later I went through with the surgery

good stuff

Go visit a few clinics first, the fact that 1 clinic rejects you doesn't mean that the other will. Also yeah be realistic, some people go to a consultation and say that they don't know what they need but they wanna look like Megan Fox or Jordan Barret.

my expectations are very reasonable and all the clinics are located far so i have to email them

This is what GPT had to say about "netherlands canthoplasty"

will look into it again, though theres multiple clinics i found that make it seem like they do it but then they actually just perform standart upper and lower eyelid surgery, which literally can worsen eyelid retraction lol

 

[IDontBlameAnybody]

good stuff

my expectations are very reasonable and all the clinics are located far so i have to email them

will look into it again, though theres multiple clinics i found that make it seem like they do it but then they actually just perform standart upper and lower eyelid surgery, which literally can worsen eyelid retraction lol

You can message them and ask about the procedure. That is what I did. Also you can ask these other clinics who haven't included cantho in their procedure list. Many clinics perform surgeries that they haven't listed.

But you know, the best would be a clinic which specifically performs them and has good results to show.

 

[MaxorDie]

geomaxx bhai

https://looksmax.org/threads/surgery-is-dirt-cheap-in-pakistan.320932/

 

[valentine]

You can message them and ask about the procedure. That is what I did. Also you can ask these other clinics who haven't included cantho in their procedure list. Many clinics perform surgeries that they haven't listed.

But you know, the best would be a clinic which specifically performs them and has good results to show.

no clinic in this country has results to show jfl i found a couple clinics in the whole country that do lip lifts and only 2 shared 1 before and after. surgery alr scheduled next month

 

[valentine]

geomaxx bhai

https://looksmax.org/threads/surgery-is-dirt-cheap-in-pakistan.320932/

pakistan jfl

 

[IDontBlameAnybody]

no clinic in this country has results to show jfl i found a couple clinics in the whole country that do lip lifts and only 2 shared 1 before and after. surgery alr scheduled next month

You already have your surgery scheduled?
Yeah clinics in my country don't show results as well, I've read that it goes against the law in some places to show the result, don't even ask me how or why, I have no fucking idea lol.
I'm from a very small Europe country as well so yeah.

 

[IDontBlameAnybody]

And eye area surgeries are one of the most ascending ones so I truly hope that everything goes well for you

 

[valentine]

You already have your surgery scheduled?
Yeah clinics in my country don't show results as well, I've read that it goes against the law in some places to show the result, don't even ask me how or why, I have no fucking idea lol.
I'm from a very small Europe country as well so yeah.

yes my lip lift is next month hopefully goes well

And eye area surgeries are one of the most ascending ones so I truly hope that everything goes well for you

ty yeah i need ts but it seems everything is against me

 

[Deleted member 96940]

the netherlands

you dont really look dutch imo, did you move here?

 

[IDontBlameAnybody]

yes my lip lift is next month hopefully goes well

ty yeah i need ts but it seems everything is against me

I'm getting my braces in the next few months for Lefort 1. Still recovering from BFR, I swelled up like crazy lol and my cheeks developed small lumps that have shrunk a lot but still present. Fibrosis pretty much.

 

[valentine]

you dont really look dutch imo, did you move here?

im high class north ukrainian aryan chad

 

[valentine]

I'm getting my braces in the next few months for Lefort 1. Still recovering from BFR, I swelled up like crazy lol and my cheeks developed small lumps that have shrunk a lot but still present. Fibrosis pretty much.

mirin good luck
i cant even get braces here. the waiting list is 12 months

 

[IDontBlameAnybody]

mirin good luck
i cant even get braces here. the waiting list is 12 months

The waiting list is 12 months even if you pay for them and not go the insurance way?

 

[Deleted member 96940]

im high class north ukrainian aryan chad

that explains it

did you flee the war?

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Do you feel safety issues compared to when you were still in ukraine?

 

[valentine]

The waiting list is 12 months even if you pay for them and not go the insurance way?

i did a lot more research on surgeries than braces honestly after i make some more money ill take care of it

 

[valentine]

that explains it

genuinely is that youre saying im too ugly

Do you feel safety issues compared to when you were still in ukraine?

obviously im glad to be where im at but theres a lot of smaller things that come with living here i find frustrating to deal with

 

[IDontBlameAnybody]

i did a lot more research on surgeries than braces honestly after i make some more money ill take care of it

I assume you've heard, but in most of the cases, you need braces before doing a jaw surgery. A dental compensation takes place when your jaws are misaligned, so braces will align your teeth to their correct and natural position. Also that way, a lot bigger movements can be made. The first rule in orthodontics is to always make the bite correct. My maxilla is recessed a bit, but my dental compensation makes it look like I have a perfect bite.

 

[Deleted member 96940]

genuinely is that youre saying im too ugly

no lol, it was referring to my point that you didnt look dutch.

obviously im glad to be where im at but theres a lot of smaller things that come with living here i find frustrating to deal with

i was more talking about third world immigrants but yes this country isnt as organized and waiting lists are too long.