How do people believe that Africa is poor because of Europe?

[TsarTsar444]

The biggest conterargument for this is Serbia. 400 years under the Ottomans, stagnation, sliver mines were exploited to Istanbul. Lost 30% of population in ww1, 10% in ww2, got bombed in the 90's. Yet Serbia is still the most powerful country in the west balkans and a better place to live in then all of Africa almost

I mean i don't this i even needed to explain this, Africa is a shithole because the Sahara cucked them so they couldn't trade and have contacts with the newer technologies, and they were cucked by the shit jungle and desert climates as well.

Jfl the West didn't do shit to them, if the west never came they would be killing eachother over a bucket

 

[Deleted member 10987]

Wouldnt the fertile ground of SSA help them tho ?

 

[BaldNonce]

 

[TsarTsar444]

Wouldnt the fertile ground of SSA help them tho ?

Bro they are like that cause of laziness, europeans were hardworking cause Europe is a shithole continent that requires inovation to do well in

 

[amorfati]

it's funny because the western european countries such as France or UK were already the richest states in the world before their colonial expansion. and on the other hand, african shitholes were far better off while under their colonial masters than today. just look at Rhodesia in the 70s as the main bread exporter in the continent, and the same country today (Zimbabwe), the country with literally the worst hyperinflation in the world and people dying on the streets due to starvation.

 

[TsarTsar444]

it's funny because the western european countries such as France or UK were already the richest states in the world before their colonial expansion. and on the other hand, african shitholes were far better off while under their colonial masters than today. just look at Rhodesia in the 70s as the main bread exporter in the continent, and the same country today (Zimbabwe), the country with literally the worst hyperinflation in the world and people dying on the streets due to starvation.

Yeah true, the Netherlands, France and German principalities were already the most advanced places in the world by 1600, before any colonization. Poland never colonized but just take a look at the breathtaking architecture and development of Krakow, legit more culture in one street then all sub saharan countries combined. Same for Nort Italy.
Slavs and Germans just have a high work culture, just read about the descriptions that arabs and greeks made of slavs, they always said they are honorable, loyal, and hard working. And then read what Arab intellectuals said about Africa....

 

[spark]

The biggest conterargument for this is Serbia. 400 years under the Ottomans, stagnation, sliver mines were exploited to Istanbul. Lost 30% of population in ww1, 10% in ww2, got bombed in the 90's. Yet Serbia is still the most powerful country in the west balkans and a better place to live in then all of Africa almost

I mean i don't this i even needed to explain this, Africa is a shithole because the Sahara cucked them so they couldn't trade and have contacts with the newer technologies, and they were cucked by the shit jungle and desert climates as well.

Jfl the West didn't do shit to them, if the west never came they would be killing eachother over a bucket

serbia is an utter shithole lol

 

[TsarTsar444]

serbia is an utter shithole lol

Its above all African countries, thats the point, its 63 out of 190 countries in HDI

 

[spark]

Serbian gross salary per month - 775
German gross salary per month - 4035

All these EE countries benefit greatly from being close to Western countries. Poorland too was largely built up by Germans and Jews.

Its above all African countries, thats the point, its 63 out of 190 countries in HDI

Not that impressive to be honest. Slavs (with the exception of Balkans) were never colonized, have always lived in Europe on somewhat equal terms with others yet you have got countries like Ukraine which are objectively worse off than even some sub-saharan countries like Botswana or Namibia.

 

[lutte]

Its above all African countries, thats the point, its 63 out of 190 countries in HDI

impressive

 

[TsarTsar444]

Serbian gross salary per month - 775
German gross salary per month - 4035

All these EE countries benefit greatly from being close to Western countries. Poorland too was largely built up by Germans and Jews.


Not that impressive to be honest. Slavs (with the exception of Balkans) were never colonized, have always lived in Europe on somewhat equal terms with others yet you have got countries like Ukraine which are objectively worse off than even some sub-saharan countries like Botswana or Namibia.

Balkan slavs were colonized, we are talking about the Balkans here. Serbia had a settlement that reached almost 100k residents in the 15th century during the Renaissance before falling under the Ottomans

Also Ukraine is heavily destabilized by Russia, with the sudden shock of the Crimea annexation and the war the Russia is doing in the East. Jfl at Botswana comparison, tiny corporation diamond colony compared with a much bigger state in a state of war crisis

 

[spark]

Balkan slavs were colonized, we are talking about the Balkans here. Serbia had a settlement that reached almost 100k residents in the 15th century during the Renaissance before falling under the Ottomans

Also Ukraine is heavily destabilized by Russia, with the sudden shock of the Crimea annexation and the war the Russia is doing in the East. Jfl at Botswana comparison, tiny corporation diamond colony compared with a much bigger state in a state of war crisis

It's always someone else's fault to Slavs. Muh communists, muh Russia, muh Germany, muh Jews.

In reality Slavs just have inferior cultures. Germany lost all colonies, lost all wars, was bombed to the ground, had their entire scientific brainpower drained yet they are again the richest in Europe.

 

[Deleted member 1476]

it’s funny because nobody would blame turkey of ‘muh colonialism muh racist imperialism’ for the state of serbia but we are expected to believe india and africa are shit because of us

 

[TsarTsar444]

It's always someone else's fault to Slavs. Muh communists, muh Russia, muh Germany, muh Jews.

In reality Slavs just have inferior cultures. Germany lost all colonies, lost all wars, was bombed to the ground, had their entire scientific brainpower drained yet they are again the richest in Europe.

Lmao at this cope, Germany is so rich cause it barely had devastating wars except the thirty years war that ended in 1648, after that until 1871 they were divided in peaceful decentralized small states that were much easier to centralize and manage compare to the huge plains and empires of eastern europe, this is why when Germamy united in 1871 it was a super power, all those 200+ years peaceful German super centralized and industrialized states united into one. Also Muh colonies Germany didn't need those colonies, it was naturally very rich with coal which fueled ita industrialization, eastern europe is one of the least resource rich places in the world, its just wast plains, marshes or forests with big decentralized empires like the Russian and Polish Lithuania Commonwealth.
Also Germany was only badly bombed in Dresden, Berlin, Hamburg. It was extremely quickly rebuild from the billions of dollars Marshall plan money from the USA.

And Germany wasn't superior to Slavic states jfl, between 1570-1670 the leading power and most progressively advanced state in Central and Eastern Europe was the PLC

 

[TsarTsar444]

it’s funny because nobody would blame turkey of ‘muh colonialism muh racist imperialism’ for the state of serbia but we are expected to believe india and africa are shit because of us

Eh there is a big difference here, Ottomans didn't colonize and exploit us for the benefit of a certain race like the turks or something like that, english people were the only first class citizenes and india and africa was seen as a place of resources to steal from and enrich only England

The Ottoman can't be blamed at all in the same way, the situation with them is more of the fact that they got us stuck with them in their own bucket of shit together, both the Balkans and Turkey are shitholes because of the Ottomans

 

[Deleted member 3990]

Namibia was a net negative for the German Empire and now their government wants reparations (idc about paying because it is part of caplitalistic schemes anyway).
Their population seem to be on good terms with Germans though

 

[spark]

Lmao at this cope, Germany is so rich cause it barely had devastating wars except the thirty years war that ended in 1648, after that until 1871 they were divided in peaceful decentralized small states that were much easier to centralize and manage compare to the huge plains and empires of eastern europe, this is why when Germamy united in 1871 it was a super power, all those 200+ years peaceful German super centralized and industrialized states united into one. Also Muh colonies Germany didn't need those colonies, it was naturally very rich with coal which fueled ita industrialization, eastern europe is one of the least resource rich places in the world, its just wast plains, marshes or forests with big decentralized empires like the Russian and Polish Lithuania Commonwealth.
Also Germany was only badly bombed in Dresden, Berlin, Hamburg. It was extremely quickly rebuild from the billions of dollars Marshall plan money from the USA.

And Germany wasn't superior to Slavic states jfl, between 1570-1670 the leading power and most progressively advanced state in Central and Eastern Europe was the PLC

Yeah I almost forgot the 30 year war which killed off 30% of the population. Much more devastating than what the Poorlaks got in WW2. Also the Napoleonic wars where the Germans got wrecked hard by Napoleon. Not to mention the two world wars in which the Germans got wrecked super hard and had to pay reparations. Also lol at "super centralized" when the HRE was the most decentralized country in the world retard.

All of your post can be summed up as Slavic subhuman cope

 

[animo123]

The biggest conterargument for this is Serbia. 400 years under the Ottomans, stagnation, sliver mines were exploited to Istanbul. Lost 30% of population in ww1, 10% in ww2, got bombed in the 90's. Yet Serbia is still the most powerful country in the west balkans and a better place to live in then all of Africa almost

I mean i don't this i even needed to explain this, Africa is a shithole because the Sahara cucked them so they couldn't trade and have contacts with the newer technologies, and they were cucked by the shit jungle and desert climates as well.

Jfl the West didn't do shit to them, if the west never came they would be killing eachother over a bucket

kinda
younger dryas cucked africa terribly as well

12,600 when a fragment of a comet hit greenland the sea level rose by 400 feet basically killing everyone on earth either directly or indirectly by causing a 1000 year winter

Before that the sahara desert was savannah,jungles,oceans and lakes and the medditaranean didnt and the uk wasnt an island either

Alot of africa is just barely habitable not to mention the constant famines because of lack of rain isnt exactly helpful for prosperous civilizations like in europe

 

[Deleted member 4438]

after marvel black panther we know the truth

 

[TsarTsar444]

Yeah I almost forgot the 30 year war which killed off 30% of the population. Much more devastating than what the Poorlaks got in WW2. Also the Napoleonic wars where the Germans got wrecked hard by Napoleon. Not to mention the two world wars in which the Germans got wrecked super hard and had to pay reparations. Also lol at "super centralized" when the HRE was the most decentralized country in the world retard.

All of your post can be summed up as Slavic subhuman cope

Lmao the Napoleonic wars were field wars, there were no massacres or damage done on German territories, Germans sided with Napoleon with Westphalia after a coalition war. There were no crisis inducing wars for 200 years, while in all that time major wars were happening in Eastern Europe or the Balkans.

And Poland lost 25% of their population during the wars with Russia and Sweden too in 1660 you dumb nigger

Muh two world wars, not a single german civilian died in ww1, and less the 3% of the german civilian population in ww2, compared to 20% in Soviet Union, and 10% in the Balkans. In ww1 Serbia lost 25% of its entire population, Bulgaria lost 10% as well.

Showing your low iq with the HRE again, HRE wasn't a country, it was a union of over 100 countries, and those invidual small states in it were ruled by a very centralized small government and industries

 

[curryslayerordeath]

it’s funny because nobody would blame turkey of ‘muh colonialism muh racist imperialism’ for the state of serbia but we are expected to believe india and africa are shit because of us

India’s (including all south Asian regions) gdp share of the world went from 27% to 2% through the British lol

Ottomans attempted to convert and integrate everywhere they ruled into their customs, whereas British solely considered them ‘inferior people’ and mostly diverted their resources towards the homeland’s Anglo citizens. There’s a huge difference between extending an empire to become more powerful (like the ottomans) and using other lands solely for their resources while disregarding their people (like the British).

 

[Deleted member 10987]

India’s (including all south Asian regions) gdp share of the world went from 27% to 2% through the British lol

Ottomans attempted to convert and integrate everywhere they ruled into their customs, whereas British solely considered them ‘inferior people’ and mostly diverted their resources towards the homeland’s Anglo citizens. There’s a huge difference between extending an empire to become more powerful (like the ottomans) and using other lands solely for their resources while disregarding their people (like the British).

 

[curryslayerordeath]

fuck u laughing at nigga

 

[Deleted member 10987]

fuck u laughing at nigga

The ottomans did massacre on the balkan too
And they def seen them as inferior for christian

 

[CFW432]

India’s (including all south Asian regions) gdp share of the world went from 27% to 2% through the British lol

Ottomans attempted to convert and integrate everywhere they ruled into their customs, whereas British solely considered them ‘inferior people’ and mostly diverted their resources towards the homeland’s Anglo citizens. There’s a huge difference between extending an empire to become more powerful (like the ottomans) and using other lands solely for their resources while disregarding their people (like the British).

While your last part is true, there was no such thing as "India" at this time, the subcontinent was broken up into Empires and princedoms and chiefdoms. And it doesn't matter if south asia held "muh 27% of the worlds gdp", when in the society 80% was made up of a destitute under caste of basically slaves and servants while the top 20% held all the wealth to themselves. Just fucking lol if you think im going to be happy about the fact that there is a possibility one of my ancestors had to work his ass off in the hot scorching sun just to be able to barely put food on his table while your ugly skinnyfat manlet brahmin ancestors were just born and got everything handed to them just for their caste.

 

[curryslayerordeath]

The ottomans did massacre on the balkan too
And they def seen them as inferior for christian

i mean yeah every conquest ends up killing many, but wasn't one of their primary intentions to spread Islam & they allowed Christians to integrate in after converted - like the janissaries? that's rly different from what the British' goals were.

While your last part is true, there was no such thing as "India" at this time, the subcontinent was broken up into Empires and princedoms and chiefdoms. And it doesn't matter if south asia held "muh 27% of the worlds gdp", when in the society 80% was made up of a destitute under caste of basically slaves and servants while the top 20% held all the wealth to themselves. Just fucking lol if you think im going to be happy about the fact that there is a possibility one of my ancestors had to work his ass off in the hot scorching sun just to be able to barely put food on his table while your ugly skinnyfat manlet brahmin ancestors were just born and got everything handed to them just for their caste.

when I said "India" I meant the aggregate of all the precolonial Empires & postcolonial countries

yeah the wealth distribution thing is true, but that's how literally every society worked back then

 

[Deleted member 10987]

i mean yeah every conquest ends up killing many, but wasn't one of their primary intentions to spread Islam & they allowed Christians to integrate in after converted - like the janissaries? that's rly different from what the British' goals were.

when I said "India" I meant the aggregate of all the precolonial Empires & postcolonial countries

yeah the wealth distribution thing is true, but that's how literally every society worked back then

If christians convert
Then they muslims
No need to integrate

 

[CFW432]

i mean yeah every conquest ends up killing many, but wasn't one of their primary intentions to spread Islam & they allowed Christians to integrate in after converted - like the janissaries? that's rly different from what the British' goals were.

when I said "India" I meant the aggregate of all the precolonial Empires & postcolonial countries

yeah the wealth distribution thing is true, but that's how literally every society worked back then

except no, not really. People in the western world had the ability to choose which life they wanted to have and what careers they wanted to make for themselves, unlike curries who have a caste system that basically restricted your line of work into what your family had been doing for thousands of years. Jfl dont ever compare the western world to the subcontinent, the subcontinent is literally a shithole and has always been a shithole since forever.

 

[lutte]

Namibia was a net negative for the German Empire and now their government wants reparations (idc about paying because it is part of caplitalistic schemes anyway).
Their population seem to be on good terms with Germans though

I think that’s more because of that little genocide thing that happened but idk

 

[spark]

Lmao the Napoleonic wars were field wars, there were no massacres or damage done on German territories, Germans sided with Napoleon with Westphalia after a coalition war. There were no crisis inducing wars for 200 years, while in all that time major wars were happening in Eastern Europe or the Balkans.

And Poland lost 25% of their population during the wars with Russia and Sweden too in 1660 you dumb nigger

Muh two world wars, not a single german civilian died in ww1, and less the 3% of the german civilian population in ww2, compared to 20% in Soviet Union, and 10% in the Balkans. In ww1 Serbia lost 25% of its entire population, Bulgaria lost 10% as well.

Showing your low iq with the HRE again, HRE wasn't a country, it was a union of over 100 countries, and those invidual small states in it were ruled by a very centralized small government and industries

HRE was an extremely decentralized empire you dumb monkey. You calling it something else doesn't make it anything else. Your people are inferior subhumans and you know it. Your greatest artist was half French, your second greatest was a jew.

You retards declined the anti-German pact with the USSR and instead attacked Czechoslovakia with Hitler in 1938 thinking it will spare your dumb asses yet less than 2 years later you subhumans were in death camps begging Stalin to save you:

This Germanic colonizer recalls how the Polish subhumans used to have just one toilet for the whole city. You were like the white curries still in the 20th century:

 

[JosephGoebbels]

They're poor because they're retarded. The same reason why germanic people have always been wealthy in recent history. It's all about genetics.

 

[Beetlejuice]

 

[TsarTsar444]

HRE was an extremely decentralized empire you dumb monkey. You calling it something else doesn't make it anything else. Your people are inferior subhumans and you know it. Your greatest artist was half French, your second greatest was a jew.

You retards declined the anti-German pact with the USSR and instead attacked Czechoslovakia with Hitler in 1938 thinking it will spare your dumb asses yet less than 2 years later you subhumans were in death camps begging Stalin to save you:
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This Germanic colonizer recalls how the Polish subhumans used to have just one toilet for the whole city. You were like the white curries still in the 20th century:
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Reminder that Slavs occupied 1/3 of Germany and raped millions of german women, also took Kalingrad, and Western Poland away from the Germanics jfl brutal how do you cope?

 

[Deleted member 3990]

I think that’s more because of that little genocide thing that happened but idk

That may be. To me it sounds more like a failed rebellion, not to deny their sufferings though

 

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