How do religious people cope about "god loves everyone equally" when dolph lundgren exists

[Gr8]

If your religious do you genuinely believe that god loves a 4,11 hideous Indian man born in the slums of Mumbai as much as he loves a 6,5 160 iq chad with an insane frame born in a first world country like Sweden?

 

[warmth]

another day another reddit atheist argument

 

[Gr8]

another day another reddit atheist argument

JFL Redditors are blue pilled to the core they think everyone is equal

 

[iblamechico]

another day another reddit atheist argument

Another day another cope. Keep thinking about eternal happiness in the afterlife buddy. Keep coping.

 

[warmth]

JFL Redditors are blue pilled to the core they think everyone is equal

you don't understand anything, and that's why you assume you know everything.

 

[warmth]

Another day another cope. Keep thinking about eternal happiness in the afterlife buddy. Keep coping.

i don't believe in afterlife.

 

[Gr8]

you don't understand anything, and that's why you assume you know everything.

answer my question then moralcuck

 

[iblamechico]

i don't believe in afterlife.

What do you believe in?

 

[Gr8]

how are you so blue pilled whilst being on .org?

another day another reddit atheist argument

 

[warmth]

answer my question then moralcuck

this argument doesn't make sense because it confuses divine love with evolutionary or social value. in nature, survival and reproduction are favored traits—tall, symmetrical, intelligent individuals often get more opportunities. but nature doesn't assign moral or metaphysical worth; it’s just selection bias. when you say “god loves,” you’re invoking a spiritual concept, but judging it with criteria from biology, status, and looks.


if you're religious, god’s love isn’t based on sexual market value, iq, height, or birthplace. that's a human, darwinian framework. from a theological perspective, especially in traditions like christianity or islam, god’s love is rooted in being, not ranking. the beggar and the king are equally dust. from a purely natural point of view, though, neither is “loved” at all—because nature doesn’t love. it favors function.


so blending a metaphysical idea like god's love with hypergamous or status-based logic just collapses the categories. you're trying to run windows programs on linux—they weren’t built for the same system.


i'm not christian or islamic, neither do I believe in afterlife and/or karma. you are ignorant about the topic, yet you bark about it as if you had some type of unique perspective on it. and that's all I pointed out.

 

[CorinthianLOX]

If your religious do you genuinely believe that god loves a 4,11 hideous Indian man born in the slums of Mumbai as much as he loves a 6,5 160 iq chad with an insane frame born in a first world country like Sweden?

Believing in arbituary consepts like morality ethics and god is a killing blow to one’s own vitality.

 

[KKKuroiso]

Not living in the slums of New Delhi is enough for me

 

[Gr8]

this argument doesn't make sense because it confuses divine love with evolutionary or social value. in nature, survival and reproduction are favored traits—tall, symmetrical, intelligent individuals often get more opportunities. but nature doesn't assign moral or metaphysical worth; it’s just selection bias. when you say “god loves,” you’re invoking a spiritual concept, but judging it with criteria from biology, status, and looks.


if you're religious, god’s love isn’t based on sexual market value, iq, height, or birthplace. that's a human, darwinian framework. from a theological perspective, especially in traditions like christianity or islam, god’s love is rooted in being, not ranking. the beggar and the king are equally dust. from a purely natural point of view, though, neither is “loved” at all—because nature doesn’t love. it favors function.


so blending a metaphysical idea like god's love with hypergamous or status-based logic just collapses the categories. you're trying to run windows programs on linux—they weren’t built for the same system.


i'm not christian or islamic, neither do I believe in afterlife and/or karma. you are ignorant about the topic, yet you bark about it as if you had some type of unique perspective on it. and that's all I pointed out.

respect the effort but how can you think god loves a creature that suffers endlessly and will never amount to anything due to genes.
Real life is how we live and it is what dictates our only one shot at existence and if you have bad luck then it's over. Its like if someone is handing you weapons for a fight and he gives you a piece of paper and the other person a gun then he obviously likes the other person more wouldn't you say

 

[warmth]

respect the effort but how can you think god loves a creature that suffers endlessly and will never amount to anything due to genes.
Real life is how we live and it is what dictates our only one shot at existence and if you have bad luck then it's over. Its like if someone is handing you weapons for a fight and he gives you a piece of paper and the other person a gun then he obviously likes the other person more wouldn't you say

you’re making the mistake of conflating natural distribution with metaphysical intention. the fact that life is asymmetrical—genetically, geographically, socially—only proves that nature is indifferent, not that a creator (if one exists) is unjust or favors one over another. this is a category error.


if a god exists, and especially if this god is not bound by material outcomes, then judging divine love by earthly success is like judging the depth of mathematics by how much money a mathematician makes. you're using the wrong metric.


the argument also assumes that suffering = neglect and advantage = preference, but that’s a projection of human psychology onto a transcendent concept. a parent may allow two children to endure very different paths—not out of favoritism, but because they understand that growth, humility, or meaning might emerge in one and not the other. whether or not this is “fair” from the child’s view doesn’t negate the presence of intentionality.


also, appealing to entropy (i.e. the universe trends toward disorder and suffering) doesn’t disprove god. it just sets the stage for what kind of god would make sense. maybe not an interventionist genie, but a god that allows agency, pain, and absurdity as part of a larger arc. rejecting god because life is cruel is like rejecting literature because the book contains suffering. you're not engaging with the premise—you’re upset with the plot.


if you reject all metaphysics, fine. but then don’t appeal to injustice—as injustice implies a standard, and standards don’t exist in raw entropy. in that view, you weren’t given a paper while someone else got a gun. no one was “given” anything. the paper, the gun, and your pain are all just particles moving toward heat death. no favoritism. just noise.


so either you're within a framework where suffering might serve a higher purpose (in which case divine love isn't disproved), or you're in a meaningless system (in which case love, justice, and preference are illusions). both are internally consistent. but don’t borrow emotional terms like “love” or “fairness” from one system and try to apply them to another.

 

[warmth]

Believing in arbituary consepts like morality ethics and god is a killing blow to one’s own vitality.

with this i agree.

 

[iblamechico]

this argument doesn't make sense because it confuses divine love with evolutionary or social value. in nature, survival and reproduction are favored traits—tall, symmetrical, intelligent individuals often get more opportunities. but nature doesn't assign moral or metaphysical worth; it’s just selection bias. when you say “god loves,” you’re invoking a spiritual concept, but judging it with criteria from biology, status, and looks.


if you're religious, god’s love isn’t based on sexual market value, iq, height, or birthplace. that's a human, darwinian framework. from a theological perspective, especially in traditions like christianity or islam, god’s love is rooted in being, not ranking. the beggar and the king are equally dust. from a purely natural point of view, though, neither is “loved” at all—because nature doesn’t love. it favors function.


so blending a metaphysical idea like god's love with hypergamous or status-based logic just collapses the categories. you're trying to run windows programs on linux—they weren’t built for the same system.


i'm not christian or islamic, neither do I believe in afterlife and/or karma. you are ignorant about the topic, yet you bark about it as if you had some type of unique perspective on it. and that's all I pointed out.

God in religion (can only speak for Christianity although I doubt other abrahamic religions are that different) shares pretty much the same moral values as humans though. Even share the same "human concepts" like emotions, justice, etc. "God is love" "god is a jealous god"

 

[warmth]

God in religion (can only speak for Christianity although I doubt other abrahamic religions are that different) shares pretty much the same moral values as humans though. Even share the same "human concepts" like emotions, justice, etc. "God is love" "god is a jealous god"

the fact that god in abrahamic religions expresses emotions like jealousy or love using human language (“god is love"), doesn’t mean god is reducible to human psychology—it means humans were only ever capable of describing metaphysical ideas through their own lens. you see this even in scripture: god doesn’t need to be “jealous” in the literal sense—it’s a metaphor for exclusivity, loyalty, covenant. anthropomorphic language is a limitation of the speaker, not of the thing being described.

my actual opinion is irrelevant, assume that i'm just being devil's (or god's in this case jfl) advocate.

 

[160cmcurry]

“this world is temporary,” they believe in the “afterlife” and their 72 virgins waiting for them. i see so many ugly inbred ethnics at my local mosque, there’s a reason why so many subhumans blindly follow islam

 

[e1488shciozl]

If your religious do you genuinely believe that god loves a 4,11 hideous Indian man born in the slums of Mumbai as much as he loves a 6,5 160 iq chad with an insane frame born in a first world country like Sweden?

When I exist

 

[optimisticzoomer]

I'm not religious
But because looks have nothing to do with your real contentment, which is serenity. A life chasing validation is not a religious one

Also jfl at 160 IQ. Also, he's an underbitecel

 

[Petsmart]

Religious people are just so baked into their belief that if they were to accept the possibility of being wrong it would shatter their whole world view.

The cognitive dissonance religious people face always gets swept under the rug with their whole faith based world view. Essentially making them feel as if questioning their world belief is evil as they should leave it all up to God and his ‘plan’.

It’s a pointless effort to convince these people as their brain power just isn’t there to be able to handle analyzing their belief from a clean slate perspective.

 

[Bars]

another day another reddit atheist argument

One Reddit user really said, "If Allah exists, why do penguins exist?"

 

[Gr8]

because looks have nothing to do with your real contentment

If your ugly people will treat you worse you'll get less opportunities and every look in the mirror will be torture so it will massively effect your contentment

 

[optimisticzoomer]

If your ugly people will treat you worse you'll get less opportunities and every look in the mirror will be torture so it will massively effect your contentment

No it won't
That's a surface level
Someone truly religious would care more about the blessing of being alive and healthy
I'm not even religious and I do

 

[Gr8]

Someone truly religious would care more about the blessing of being alive and healthy

genetics determine if you healthy and have a huge impact on when you die

 

[optimisticzoomer]

genetics determine if you healthy and have a huge impact on when you die

Not relevant to your OP
"Ugly" people don't die earlier
And it's not even about living a long life. U could die tomorrow

 

[mrdouchebag]

God loves all people. Some more than others.
Everyone has their favorites.

 

[Gr8]

Not relevant to your OP
"Ugly" people don't die earlier
And it's not even about living a long life. U could die tomorrow

Uglier people are proven to have weaker immune systems but that wasn't my main point if someone with a genetic predisposition to illness or simply has a body that doesn't function they will live shorter lives and while length of life isn't the most important thing it is a significant factor, if you die at 10 you never will have experienced life properly.

 

[Gr8]

you’re making the mistake of conflating natural distribution with metaphysical intention. the fact that life is asymmetrical—genetically, geographically, socially—only proves that nature is indifferent, not that a creator (if one exists) is unjust or favors one over another. this is a category error.


if a god exists, and especially if this god is not bound by material outcomes, then judging divine love by earthly success is like judging the depth of mathematics by how much money a mathematician makes. you're using the wrong metric.


the argument also assumes that suffering = neglect and advantage = preference, but that’s a projection of human psychology onto a transcendent concept. a parent may allow two children to endure very different paths—not out of favoritism, but because they understand that growth, humility, or meaning might emerge in one and not the other. whether or not this is “fair” from the child’s view doesn’t negate the presence of intentionality.


also, appealing to entropy (i.e. the universe trends toward disorder and suffering) doesn’t disprove god. it just sets the stage for what kind of god would make sense. maybe not an interventionist genie, but a god that allows agency, pain, and absurdity as part of a larger arc. rejecting god because life is cruel is like rejecting literature because the book contains suffering. you're not engaging with the premise—you’re upset with the plot.


if you reject all metaphysics, fine. but then don’t appeal to injustice—as injustice implies a standard, and standards don’t exist in raw entropy. in that view, you weren’t given a paper while someone else got a gun. no one was “given” anything. the paper, the gun, and your pain are all just particles moving toward heat death. no favoritism. just noise.


so either you're within a framework where suffering might serve a higher purpose (in which case divine love isn't disproved), or you're in a meaningless system (in which case love, justice, and preference are illusions). both are internally consistent. but don’t borrow emotional terms like “love” or “fairness” from one system and try to apply them to another.

All current scientific evidence points to the heat death of the universe where nothing will ever happen and as far as we know we are the only things that can experience life and the universe.
What we are to an atomic level is determined by genes.
Your brain that allows you to write that was created by genetic code same with your lungs eyes and heart everything about you is determined by genes.If you were born with down syndrome you wouldn't be able to comprehend what you are saying and would most Likely be in constant suffering.

 

[Gr8]

Even your personality is mostly genes due to genes controlling how your brain is wired so even Redditors who cope about personality are still admitting the importance of having genes desirable for a good brain structure to allow for good social connection empathy and understanding of social norms.

 

[Latinus]

“this world is temporary,” they believe in the “afterlife” and their 72 virgins waiting for them. i see so many ugly inbred ethnics at my local mosque, there’s a reason why so many subhumans blindly follow islam

72 virgins only in the afterlife, when they are alive inceldom is what god choose to them.

 

[Latinus]

God is a human creation, it's like believing that Mario Bros exist, the difference is that video games are fun and they are not judging you, while the abrahamic god is narcissistic and sadistic.

 

[iblamechico]

Religious people are just so baked into their belief that if they were to accept the possibility of being wrong it would shatter their whole world view.

This is true. I know firsthand because I went thru it when I evolved from a pious little boy to a hardened reddit atheist.

 

[warmth]

All current scientific evidence points to the heat death of the universe where nothing will ever happen and as far as we know we are the only things that can experience life and the universe.
What we are to an atomic level is determined by genes.
Your brain that allows you to write that was created by genetic code same with your lungs eyes and heart everything about you is determined by genes.If you were born with down syndrome you wouldn't be able to comprehend what you are saying and would most Likely be in constant suffering.

you’re not wrong within your framework—yes, from a reductionist materialist view, everything we are is just gene expression obeying entropy. but that’s precisely the point: once you fully commit to that view, concepts like love, suffering, injustice, and even meaning become chemical illusions. so invoking suffering as a critique of divine justice becomes logically incoherent—suffering only “matters” if there’s a metaphysical value system in play.

 

[warmth]

No it won't
That's a surface level
Someone truly religious would care more about the blessing of being alive and healthy
I'm not even religious and I do

gratitude for being alive doesn’t negate the reality that social perception is skewed by looks. your inner peace doesn’t stop people from subconsciously avoiding you, giving you worse service, hiring the better-looking candidate, or treating you with less warmth. that’s not “surface level,” it’s foundational biology—beauty influences trust, memory, and even perceived competence.

you’re confusing personal coping mechanisms with external reality. just because you choose to feel grateful doesn’t mean the world stops punishing you for your phenotype.

OP's mistake comes much earlier—it’s logically flawed. he's using metaphysical concepts to argue in favor of strict materialism.

 

[BigJimsWornOutTires]

one massive virtual reality

 

[doxcine]

what kinda garbage argument is this, god's love isn't bound by how you look or your social statues the fuck, even some women can love you for who you are far from material things

 

[warmth]

One Reddit user really said, "If Allah exists, why do penguins exist?"

notice how almost no atheist can develop an argument without using metaphysicial concepts. "god can't exist because life is UNFAIR". where does the concept of fairness comes from? morality. ur using the system you are tryna debunk.

 

[doxcine]

notice how almost no atheist can develop an argument without using metaphysicial concepts. "god can't exist because life is UNFAIR". where does the concept of fairness comes from? morality. ur using the system you are tryna debunk.

true nature doesn't give a fuck about morality we are just some atoms floating around under their "view"
thats why using moral argument to debunk relegion is dumb as fuck

 

[warmth]

true nature doesn't give a fuck about morality we are just some atoms floating around under their "view"
thats why using moral argument to debunk relegion is dumb as fuck

and ironically, if you actually follow biology and natural law to their deepest implications—purpose, design, order, hierarchy—you end up bumping into something that looks a lot like god anyway.

 

[Gr8]

what kinda garbage argument is this, god's love isn't bound by how you look or your social statues the fuck, even some women can love you for who you are far from material things

Tips fedora m'lady

 

[Gr8]

true nature doesn't give a fuck about morality we are just some atoms floating around under their "view"
thats why using moral argument to debunk relegion is dumb as fuck

I don't think I can speak for if a being far beyond our understanding controls the world but the idea that a carpenter or a warlord from the Middle East has hallucinations and thinks he's the son of god or prophet then I think that's just insanity or opportunism to take advantage of sheep and to gain power.Many cult leaders do the same today such as scientology

 

[looksmaxxed]

i can no longer defend christianity. it's way too subversive to not be a jewish psyop. it's essentially the white man's gateway drug to communist cuckery. the message is essentially everyone is equal, even that 70 iq nigger to killed your whole family can be saved if you just make him believe. love your enemies to the point of killing yourself

 

[Gr8]

and ironically, if you actually follow biology and natural law to their deepest implications—purpose, design, order, hierarchy—you end up bumping into something that looks a lot like god anyway.

At a certain point our understanding of physics breaks down so anything could be out there but the point I was making is if god does exist in some form( it will probably be in one we can't comprehend) then he obviously has favorites or simply lets biology take over which in of itself has favorites such as in elephant seals only 10 percent of males reproduce and only one sperm out of 400million wins the race.

 

[Gr8]

i can no longer defend christianity. it's way too subversive to not be a jewish psyop. it's essentially the white man's gateway drug to communist cuckery. the message is essentially everyone is equal, even that 70 iq nigger to killed your whole family can be saved if you just make him believe. love your enemies to the point of killing yourself

Yes christianity is too soft and will result in your civilization getting destroyed

 

[Panzram]

If your religious do you genuinely believe that god loves a 4,11 hideous Indian man born in the slums of Mumbai as much as he loves a 6,5 160 iq chad with an insane frame born in a first world country like Sweden?

No you have it all wrong. God loves the 4'11 subhuman more than the 6'5 chad, that is why he gave him suffering in this world. You see, suffering and temptations are just tests from god and by enduring one gets closer to god. Its harder for a Chad to be saved because his easy life does not make him remember god. Subhuman on the other hand struggles daily and is forced into prayer that brings him closer to the Lord.

Its so twisted most users here have no clue

 

[Gr8]

No you have it all wrong. God loves the 4'11 subhuman more than the 6'5 chad, that is why he gave him suffering in this world. You see, suffering and temptations are just tests from god and by enduring one gets closer to god. Its harder for a Chad to be saved because his easy life does not make him remember god. Subhuman on the other hand struggles daily and is forced into prayer that brings him closer to the Lord.

Its so twisted most users here have no clue

I find it so funny that the majority of the worlds population actually thinks this way

 

[doxcine]

I don't think I can speak for if a being far beyond our understanding controls the world but the idea that a carpenter or a warlord from the Middle East has hallucinations and thinks he's the son of god or prophet then I think that's just insanity or opportunism to take advantage of sheep and to gain power.Many cult leaders do the same today such as scientology

yeah thats your problem buddy you're too shallow and lack prespective, you dismmissed a whole relgion because muuh i can't follow someone from the desert of arabia and the whole thing about power and shit is legit not true at all, the prohphet mohammed spent 13 years of his life preaching when his followers were like maximum a 100 and everyday they tried to kill him and then offered him to be the leader of his people and given him a shit ton of money yet he refused

 

[recai iskender]

Ya ali curse this kafir

 

[davinci]

a parent may allow two children to endure very different paths—not out of favoritism, but because they understand that growth, humility, or meaning might emerge in one and not the other. whether or not this is “fair” from the child’s view doesn’t negate the presence of intentionality.

giga iq answer.
however what i struggle to understand is why bother doing all that? Why allow all kind of bad things to happen just for growth when He could directly makes us spawn with all the knowledge, wisdom, love etc (and in perfect bodies)?