How do you fix your jaw if it has this kind of shape?

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Mine isn't this shit, but I have a similar thing going on where it's pretty wide, but it completely lacks angularity at the gonions. The only thing I can think of is masseter reduction followed up by fillers/implants to regain the width, but hopefully with more angularity. That sounds like a good recipe to getting botched though. Thoughts?
 
The problem there is low gonial angle and thus, short chin.
 
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The problem there is low gonial angle and thus, short chin.
Maybe you could do CW Bimax for higher gonial angle and taller chin, but wouldn't the lack of angularity at the gonions still be an issue?
 
do you have overbite?
 
The problem there is low gonial angle and thus, short chin.

Vertical genio won't do anything here? Do you really need to rotate the jaws clockwise?
 
Vertical genio won't do anything here? Do you really need to rotate the jaws clockwise?
Maybe you could do CW Bimax for higher gonial angle and taller chin, but wouldn't the lack of angularity at the gonions still be an issue?
Rotating the jaws clockwise is the easier solution but obviously now they are more downward grown which sacrifices aesthetics. I don’t know much but vertical genio + a large jaw implant with a steeper gradient than the original jaw could work.

Also a lot of people have round gonions and don’t have this problem.
 
Rotating the jaws clockwise is the easier solution but obviously now they are more downward grown which sacrifices aesthetics. I don’t know much but vertical genio + a large jaw implant with a steeper gradient than the original jaw could work.

Also a lot of people have round gonions and don’t have this problem.
It could be round gonions + large masseters. My gonion angle is like 110 btw, that's not that low is it?
 
Invisalign, sliding genio, gonion implants
First two seem good, but don't you think that gonion implants would Steve from minecraft-maxx me since my jaw is already fairly wide (90% bigonial ratio). Maybe masseter reduction first before the implants to reduce the round, bloated look, but that seems too complicated and will likely lead to botching
 
It could be round gonions + large masseters. My gonion angle is like 110 btw, that's not that low is it?
Nah it isn’t too low. I’m assuming your chin has decent height, in which case the problem would be that your gonions lack flare. Straight/inward gonions look bad with large masseters. Masseter botox/jaw implant can solve this.
 
Nah it isn’t too low. I’m assuming your chin has decent height, in which case the problem would be that your gonions lack flare. Straight/inward gonions look bad with large masseters. Masseter botox/jaw implant can solve this.
My chin height is pretty shit, mainly because I have big lips for a White guy, so it covers quite a bit. Vertical sliding genio + masseter reduction + jaw implant/filler seems to be the play
 
imagine your problem being that your gonial is too low.... fuckin' chads.org not even once
I don’t know why people think low gonial angle is ideal. They confuse it with low downward growth (0 degree occlusal plane). Low gonial angle literally means shorter chin = less masc. Obviously too high is bad.
 
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I don’t know why people think low gonial angle is ideal. They confuse it with low downward growth (0 degree occlusal plane). Low gonial angle literally means shorter chin = less masc. Obviously too high is bad.
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"either gonial or go home" - lachowski
 
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SFS? get CW bimax
 
When you flex the masseter muscles your jaw gets more angular?
 

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