How do you keep an LTR of you have been a socially awkward hikikomori for 28 years?

[Nation]

Now im 30 btw and I made some experiences in the last few years because of lower inhibitions + tattos and social exposure.
Before that I Just worked and get at home After I finished my shift, no social interaction other than coworkers, no girls ..anything. l used to live with my mom and being unable to do basic stuff like laundry, house cleaning, fix Little broken things in the house, solving other problems a man should solve, driving ability, being able to stay in clubs and having fun/chill, setting boundaries in the ltr without looking too friendly/positive.

Since I had scarcity of dating I was literally too positive/Happy and I'm Always too diplomat and unable to confront my girl...I Just walk away when She starts acting disrespectfully/arguing about stupid stuff/treating me like a child or like shes a teacher..but then again After I walked away for some days I Always come back to her since I want to have some experience at all cost.

Now other than this arguing shes nurturing/caring and the sex is good but shes acting like a teacher and nitpicking about everything since day 1.
' I want a man...not someone that walks away without confrontation when I was with you until 5 minutes ago '

This Is a dead end relationship but shes right about the fact Im not able to do any basic Jobs in my house, being a social reject all these years made me like I lived in my Little world.

Is there something I can do to save the ltr?

Keep in mind I'm 100% sure She would not act like that If I was Better looking or taller, OFC..but shes right about the fact I Need to do the basic man things like fixing broken things in the home or being able to orientate myself without Google Maps.

I have problems with orientation too, Always forget where I parked my car if i dont write that in my phone.

' my dad knows how to orientate without Google/ I want a man that knows how to orientate " exc

 

[hopecel]

take a look at this channel I'm sure it will help you a lot

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWsslCoN3b_wBaFVWK_ye_A

 

[Martyros]

Sorry but you will never fully un-learn your manchildism, and besides it doesn't matter if you did anyway, Chad doesn't need to do any of that, so why should you? Oh that's right because you're a sub8 male and she wants you to be a useful little human tool.. Oh.. I mean.. "muh real man".

JFL, at this point just tell her that you two can be in an open relationship so she can fuck monster BBC on the side.

 

[FutureSlayer]

I’ve got problems with orientation as well, i’m coming to conclusion it’s because of too much rotting and videogames playing during early childhood and/or some sort of adhd

 

[Nation]

I’ve got problems with orientation as well, i’m coming to conclusion it’s because of too much rotting and videogames playing during early childhood and/or some sort of adhd

Do you think its related to ADHD?

 

[Sleeper]

Now im 30 btw and I made some experiences in the last few years because of lower inhibitions + tattos and social exposure.
Before that I Just worked and get at home After I finished my shift, no social interaction other than coworkers, no girls ..anything. l used to live with my mom and being unable to do basic stuff like laundry, house cleaning, fix Little broken things in the house, solving other problems a man should solve, driving ability, being able to stay in clubs and having fun/chill, setting boundaries in the ltr without looking too friendly/positive.

Since I had scarcity of dating I was literally too positive/Happy and I'm Always too diplomat and unable to confront my girl...I Just walk away when She starts acting disrespectfully/arguing about stupid stuff/treating me like a child or like shes a teacher..but then again After I walked away for some days I Always come back to her since I want to have some experience at all cost.

Now other than this arguing shes nurturing/caring and the sex is good but shes acting like a teacher and nitpicking about everything since day 1.
' I want a man...not someone that walks away without confrontation when I was with you until 5 minutes ago '

This Is a dead end relationship but shes right about the fact Im not able to do any basic Jobs in my house, being a social reject all these years made me like I lived in my Little world.

Is there something I can do to save the ltr?

Keep in mind I'm 100% sure She would not act like that If I was Better looking or taller, OFC..but shes right about the fact I Need to do the basic man things like fixing broken things in the home or being able to orientate myself without Google Maps.

I have problems with orientation too, Always forget where I parked my car if i dont write that in my phone.

' my dad knows how to orientate without Google/ I want a man that knows how to orientate " exc

In all honesty, just treat her like shit. Listen to your most base desires and instincts and enact them on her. You probably wont believe me because its very "just do it bRO!" advice but in reality it works and its for reasons like this that I'd suggest every guy tries a "starter girlfriend" to test out treating like shit so he can understand exactly how and why it works.

Now you might think treating this girl like shit would be difficult since you like her so I'll give you some tips. Basically you want to forget about every way in which you would treat a normal person. Your goal for interacting with her should be to annoy her for your own amusement. If she wants you to do something and you don't feel like doing it then just don't and make up a ridiculous reason as to why which shows you dont care "I'm busy staring at the wall, no I'm going to be staring at the wall all day so I can't help out sorry". If you want something then just tell her and if she tries to negotiate or have you do something in return then "Nah fuck that"/"Nah not interested anymore" or better yet "okay I'll do X if you ask me very politely" and then refuse to do it until she's asks politely and then refuse it anyway. If she's talking a load of shit you don't like or saying or doing things that naturally repulses you then just say she's talking shit and start making fun of her. And if you eventually do ever do something for her then talk about how great you are for doing it and how easy it was and how you wonder what you're going to get in return for it

Keep in mind you have to always not care about what's going on and not think about any consequences for anything you might say or do and act as if you're right for doing so. What's more, never admit that you're wrong about anything, admit defeat in any way and always try to have yourself come out on top. Women are very gullible and malleable, if you don't act as if your an arrogant bastard that takes nothing seriously since you always get whatever you want then they'll never treat you like that. If you act helpless or sappy then that's how they'll treat you too and with an enormous amount of disrespect on top of it. They just respond to whatever is in front of them, they don't look any deeper than that. So lie about anything that would make you look bad, tell lies about everything that would make you look better and the number one response for everything that you do is that you're just being reasonable and she's being unreasonable. But in order for this to work you have to be like that from the get go, you cant flip the script on a girl thats already seen you not like that hence why you need to try being this way with a starter gf

tldr Women's main method of interaction with men is social manipulation (cuck/beta treatment) so behave in a way that is completely incompatible with that and their only other method is sex which is the foundation of your whole relationship. Being "nice" will only get you the cuck treatment meaning sex never becomes necessary to manipulate you in the first place which means no relationship/failed relationship. You will continue to run into problems until you learn to treat her like shit

 

[Nation]

In all honesty, just treat her like shit. Listen to your most base desires and instincts and enact them on her. You probably wont believe me because its very "just do it bRO!" advice but in reality it works and its for reasons like this that I'd suggest every guy tries a "starter girlfriend" to test out treating like shit so he can understand exactly how and why it works.

Now you might think treating this girl like shit would be difficult since you like her so I'll give you some tips. Basically you want to forget about every way in which you would treat a normal person. Your goal for interacting with her should be to annoy her for your own amusement. If she wants you to do something and you don't feel like doing it then just don't and make up a ridiculous reason as to why which shows you dont care "I'm busy staring at the wall, no I'm going to be staring at the wall all day so I can't help out sorry". If you want something then just tell her and if she tries to negotiate or have you do something in return then "Nah fuck that"/"Nah not interested anymore" or better yet "okay I'll do X if you ask me very politely" and then refuse to do it until she's asks politely and then refuse it anyway. If she's talking a load of shit you don't like or saying or doing things that naturally repulses you then just say she's talking shit and start making fun of her. And if you eventually do ever do something for her then talk about how great you are for doing it and how easy it was and how you wonder what you're going to get in return for it

Keep in mind you have to always not care about what's going on and not think about any consequences for anything you might say or do and act as if you're right for doing so. What's more, never admit that you're wrong about anything, admit defeat in any way and always try to have yourself come out on top. Women are very gullible and malleable, if you don't act as if your an arrogant bastard that takes nothing seriously since you always get whatever you want then they'll never treat you like that. If you act helpless or sappy then that's how they'll treat you too and with an enormous amount of disrespect on top of it. They just respond to whatever is in front of them, they don't look any deeper than that. So lie about anything that would make you look bad, tell lies about everything that would make you look better and the number one response for everything that you do is that you're just being reasonable and she's being unreasonable. But in order for this to work you have to be like that from the get go, you cant flip the script on a girl thats already seen you not like that hence why you need to try being this way with a starter gf

tldr Women's main method of interaction with men is social manipulation (cuck/beta treatment) so behave in a way that is completely incompatible with that and their only other method is sex which is the foundation of your whole relationship. Being "nice" will only get you the cuck treatment meaning sex never becomes necessary to manipulate you in the first place which means no relationship/failed relationship. You will continue to run into problems until you learn to treat her like shit

I tried It since shes the One that does this treatment to me...and what happens? She ghosts me for days and She gets annoyed to the point She wants the relation to end, or She acts even more cold. She literally told me One time She was going to miss more her USB cable in my car than me

 

[Sleeper]

I tried It since shes the One that does this treatment to me...and what happens? She ghosts me for days and She gets annoyed to the point She wants the relation to end, or She acts even more cold. She literally told me One time She was going to miss more her USB cable in my car than me

it's already over then. If she goes out of her way to treat you like dirt then why are you still with her? You're just a utility to her so it will be better for you to just drop her and ghost her entirely. Don't try to get back together with her, dont agree to be "friends", don't let her hang around you or contact you in any way and keep her blocked on everything. You need to have some self respect and in the future don't tell women that you have no experience or let them disrespect you in any way, just lie about yourself to make you seem better and do that constantly. There is literally zero benefit in you admitting any disadvantage or weakness you have to a girl, they will only judge you for it or use it against you just as this chick is doing.

Flip the script for a moment and imagine a virgin teenage girl that ran away from home meeting some ex con and thinking that if she opens up to her about how vulnerable she is then he'll protect her and everything will work out. This is basically what you're doing with women and it just doesnt work in reality

 

[Nation]

it's already over then. If she goes out of her way to treat you like dirt then why are you still with her? You're just a utility to her so it will be better for you to just drop her and ghost her entirely. Don't try to get back together with her, dont agree to be "friends", don't let her hang around you or contact you in any way and keep her blocked on everything. You need to have some self respect and in the future don't tell women that you have no experience or let them disrespect you in any way, just lie about yourself to make you seem better and do that constantly. There is literally zero benefit in you admitting any disadvantage or weakness you have to a girl, they will only judge you for it or use it against you just as this chick is doing.

Flip the script for a moment and imagine a virgin teenage girl that ran away from home meeting some ex con and thinking that if she opens up to her about how vulnerable she is then he'll protect her and everything will work out. This is basically what you're doing with women and it just doesnt work in reality

No i didnt Say anything about me ofc I lied about my exes exc
But She sees I have no friends and Im poor exc

 

[vinotinto2026]

That "girl" doesnt love you dude, shes either using you for money or sex. Just break up with her and move foward. If she truly loved you she wouldnt confront you over small things like this. So you know what to do G. Be a man and get off this incel website

 

[Shogun]

That "girl" doesnt love you dude, shes either using you for money or sex. Just break up with her and move foward. If she truly loved you she wouldnt confront you over small things like this. So you know what to do G. Be a man and get off this incel website

lmao "incel website"

This place is infested with normies and Chads

 

[eduardkoopman]

How can one have been hikomori, from age 2 till let's say 18???
While that age range, is super social with school, sports, playing, etc....

 

[poopoohead]

How can one have been hikomori, from age 2 till let's say 18???
While that age range, is super social with school, sports, playing, etc....

idk ask 30% of this forum

 

[zainab]

Now im 30 btw and I made some experiences in the last few years because of lower inhibitions + tattos and social exposure.
Before that I Just worked and get at home After I finished my shift, no social interaction other than coworkers, no girls ..anything. l used to live with my mom and being unable to do basic stuff like laundry, house cleaning, fix Little broken things in the house, solving other problems a man should solve, driving ability, being able to stay in clubs and having fun/chill, setting boundaries in the ltr without looking too friendly/positive.

Since I had scarcity of dating I was literally too positive/Happy and I'm Always too diplomat and unable to confront my girl...I Just walk away when She starts acting disrespectfully/arguing about stupid stuff/treating me like a child or like shes a teacher..but then again After I walked away for some days I Always come back to her since I want to have some experience at all cost.

Now other than this arguing shes nurturing/caring and the sex is good but shes acting like a teacher and nitpicking about everything since day 1.
' I want a man...not someone that walks away without confrontation when I was with you until 5 minutes ago '

This Is a dead end relationship but shes right about the fact Im not able to do any basic Jobs in my house, being a social reject all these years made me like I lived in my Little world.

Is there something I can do to save the ltr?

Keep in mind I'm 100% sure She would not act like that If I was Better looking or taller, OFC..but shes right about the fact I Need to do the basic man things like fixing broken things in the home or being able to orientate myself without Google Maps.

I have problems with orientation too, Always forget where I parked my car if i dont write that in my phone.

' my dad knows how to orientate without Google/ I want a man that knows how to orientate " exc

Solution is having more girls. She wouldn’t act like that if you had 5 more potential gf’s lined up. She thinks she has power over you.

 

[YabadiDabado]

Moneymaking & Success

 

[LampPostPrime]

In all honesty, just treat her like shit. Listen to your most base desires and instincts and enact them on her. You probably wont believe me because its very "just do it bRO!" advice but in reality it works and its for reasons like this that I'd suggest every guy tries a "starter girlfriend" to test out treating like shit so he can understand exactly how and why it works.

Now you might think treating this girl like shit would be difficult since you like her so I'll give you some tips. Basically you want to forget about every way in which you would treat a normal person. Your goal for interacting with her should be to annoy her for your own amusement. If she wants you to do something and you don't feel like doing it then just don't and make up a ridiculous reason as to why which shows you dont care "I'm busy staring at the wall, no I'm going to be staring at the wall all day so I can't help out sorry". If you want something then just tell her and if she tries to negotiate or have you do something in return then "Nah fuck that"/"Nah not interested anymore" or better yet "okay I'll do X if you ask me very politely" and then refuse to do it until she's asks politely and then refuse it anyway. If she's talking a load of shit you don't like or saying or doing things that naturally repulses you then just say she's talking shit and start making fun of her. And if you eventually do ever do something for her then talk about how great you are for doing it and how easy it was and how you wonder what you're going to get in return for it

Keep in mind you have to always not care about what's going on and not think about any consequences for anything you might say or do and act as if you're right for doing so. What's more, never admit that you're wrong about anything, admit defeat in any way and always try to have yourself come out on top. Women are very gullible and malleable, if you don't act as if your an arrogant bastard that takes nothing seriously since you always get whatever you want then they'll never treat you like that. If you act helpless or sappy then that's how they'll treat you too and with an enormous amount of disrespect on top of it. They just respond to whatever is in front of them, they don't look any deeper than that. So lie about anything that would make you look bad, tell lies about everything that would make you look better and the number one response for everything that you do is that you're just being reasonable and she's being unreasonable. But in order for this to work you have to be like that from the get go, you cant flip the script on a girl thats already seen you not like that hence why you need to try being this way with a starter gf

tldr Women's main method of interaction with men is social manipulation (cuck/beta treatment) so behave in a way that is completely incompatible with that and their only other method is sex which is the foundation of your whole relationship. Being "nice" will only get you the cuck treatment meaning sex never becomes necessary to manipulate you in the first place which means no relationship/failed relationship. You will continue to run into problems until you learn to treat her like shit

Least psychopathic .org member

 

[LampPostPrime]

How can one have been hikomori, from age 2 till let's say 18???
While that age range, is super social with school, sports, playing, etc....

Ops not even hikomori lol, he had a job

 

[Pikabro]

Ops not even hikomori lol, he had a job

Not much diff tbh

 

[LampPostPrime]

Not much diff tbh

Hugely different having a job is like half of being a normie . Most normies aren't partying everyday like this place says they usually just go home and c0ns00m after working or chill in small group

 

[LampPostPrime]

Also having a job is a gateway to a gf and social circle

 

[LampPostPrime]

Speaking as someone who didn't start working until 26 lol

 

[Pikabro]

Hugely different having a job is like half of being a normie . Most normies aren't partying everyday like this place says they usually just go home and c0ns00m after working or chill in small group

Ok

 

[LampPostPrime]

Ok

Like seriously just "ok"??? Lmfao so pathetic how you're too pussy to engage at all when your stupidity is shown. How tf do you think having a job isnt a big deal. You're probably like 95% of incels , disgustingly privileged suburbanite piece of shit so you don't know the value of earning money

 

[LampPostPrime]

Like jesus @Pikabro you're genuinely retarded lol. Not having a job is like 75% the definition of a hikkimori, there was an entire anime and manga about it and most of it was about him not having a job and the effects of that

How do you have an anime avatar yet are this clueless about japanese culture lmao

Goddamn why are incels so fucking stupid lol

 

[jeetslayer]

you dont

 

[Pikabro]

Like seriously just "ok"??? Lmfao so pathetic how you're too pussy to engage at all when your stupidity is shown. How tf do you think having a job isnt a big deal. You're probably like 95% of incels , disgustingly privileged suburbanite piece of shit so you don't know the value of earning money

I’m too comfortable. Made me lose perception of time and completely ldar for several years. YEARS