how do you know how people treat you if you have no reference

[jc0]

title. how am i supposed to know if im treated well or not if i dont have a reference to base it on? i might be treated better or worse than average but i wont really know unless its on the extremes and is obvious. even if you are treated better/worse than average, your brain will think you are being treated normally because thats all you knew (unless you ascend in a short amount of time).

 

[notamoid]

fair point, not really any way to know.

you can watch how others treat attractive people, and take hints from there by comparing that to how youre treated (for example you compare how you are treated to a guy you deem is certainly attractive/good looking)

 

[looks_minimizing]

title. how am i supposed to know if im treated well or not if i dont have a reference to base it on? i might be treated better or worse than average but i wont really know unless its on the extremes and is obvious. even if you are treated better/worse than average, your brain will think you are being treated normally because thats all you knew (unless you ascend in a short amount of time).

i mean, if you are frequently having bad experiences with people I feel like thats a tell tale sign. like mostly strangers really, that's where you find out how people really perceive you from a glance. if you mog hard strangers may go out of your way to interact with you, smile when you look at them, brew up a random conversation, compliment you, etc. if you're ugly as shit, people will often glance in your direction but ignore any eye contact or avoid it, avoid interactions with you, or seem uninterested when you talk to them

 

[primal_shitmuncher]

For me the easiest way to tell was how they treated other people.

E.g I'm alone with a dude from the friend group. We have bland-ass conversations. He shows low signs of actually fuckin with me.

Then when we're with the entire friend group, he's having the time of his life, and ignoring me.

So how your friends treat you compared to others is a good indicator of your attractiveness.

Obviously there's how foids treat you too.

For me I get regular 'ews' from foids (having to sit next to me for grup projects or durin lunch, etc.) so it's rather obvious.

For you it might be something milder.

There's also obviously how people out in public treat you. Like cashiers never make eye contact and are tryna get you outta there as fast as possible, etc.

Hope this helped, mark as solution if it did

 

[looks_minimizing]

fair point, not really any way to know.

you can watch how others treat attractive people, and take hints from there by comparing that to how youre treated (for example you compare how you are treated to a guy you deem is certainly attractive/good looking)

good rule of thumb is that most people are neutral to you by default, if you find most people are very friendly / talkative to you on a regular basis, especially people you don't know, it's a good sign you're at least average or above.

the best way to tell is definitely interactions with girls, most girls will make it APPARENTLY CLEAR that they are not interested in you if you're ugly, but if you can hold a conversation with a girl without her glancing around like "get me the fuck out of here" it may not be over, coming from a motherfucker who has been chopped as shit, ascended, and experienced both

 

[notamoid]

good rule of thumb is that most people are neutral to you by default, if you find most people are very friendly / talkative to you on a regular basis, especially people you don't know, it's a good sign you're at least average or above.

the best way to tell is definitely interactions with girls, most girls will make it APPARENTLY CLEAR that they are not interested in you if you're ugly, but if you can hold a conversation with a girl without her glancing around like "get me the fuck out of here" it may not be over

yeah sure, but also keep in mind it has to do with your attitude/social demeanor

people will quickly become unfriendly/not talkative if an attractive person is rude or seemingly not looking for conversation, or appears unfriendly.

this perspective is also flawed because often times some people are intimidated by good-looking individuals and act coldly towards them. there is a range.

as always, it is not black and white.

 

[jc0]

So how your friends treat you compared to others is a good indicator of your attractiveness.

idk if thatll work out for me because im quite anti social and introverted. back in hs my friends often told me i had a big glow up and i started getting glazed until me getting glazed became a joke (theyd start glazing me for everything).

one of my popular friends was talking with the popular group across one of my classes and basically they asked him if he was a girl who would he go for, and he said me.

recently in uni i was with 2 of my friends and we had a convo and they said i was a good looking guy and mentioned my eyebrows but theyre normies and i refuse to believe it because when i look at my self i see my downward growth and very recessed mandible and lip incompetence, so the problem is not only aewsthetic but functional/structural aswell

 

[looks_minimizing]

yeah sure, but also keep in mind it has to do with your attitude/social demeanor

people will quickly become unfriendly/not talkative if an attractive person is rude or seemingly not looking for conversation, or appears unfriendly.

i mean yeah, if you're outwardly being negative when talking to girls it's a bad idea regardless of who you are, but I'm assuming @jc0 isn't being rude or abrasive, maybe just shy, in that case my point still stands

shy chad: omg he's so quiet and shy it's so cute
shy sub5 / ltn: omg he's so weird and awkward, what a freak

this perspective is also flawed because often times some people are intimidated by good-looking individuals and act coldly towards them. there is a range.

as always, it is not black and white.

this is absolutely true too, but likely a girl wont give you the "get the fuck away from me eyes" if you're a chad just because she's intimidated, it's more like shyness and you CAN tell the difference in scenarios like this with good social awareness

 

[Rick_bozo]

If you like how you were treated then its okay if not then bad

 

[jc0]

shy chad: omg he's so quiet it's so cute
shy sub5 / ltn: omg he's so weird and awkward, what a freak

i tend to overanalyze my social interactions because i have very few social interactions with people so i might sound autistic.

i did start getting the comment that i look nonchalant as cringe as that sounds.

 

[looks_minimizing]

i tend to overanalyze my social interactions because i have very few social interactions with people so i might sound autistic.

i did start getting the comment that i look nonchalant as cringe as that sounds.

nonchalant is much better than "awkward freak" you're getting somewhere brother

 

[primal_shitmuncher]

idk if thatll work out for me because im quite anti social and introverted. back in hs my friends often told me i had a big glow up and i started getting glazed until me getting glazed became a joke (theyd start glazing me for everything).

one of my popular friends was talking with the popular group across one of my classes and basically they asked him if he was a girl who would he go for, and he said me.

recently in uni i was with 2 of my friends and we had a convo and they said i was a good looking guy and mentioned my eyebrows but theyre normies and i refuse to believe it because when i look at my self i see my downward growth and very recessed mandible and lip incompetence, so the problem is not only aewsthetic but functional/structural aswell

I mean having dudes constantly glaze you is at least a sign you've got good male dimorphism.

It's how men work.

If you want you can PM me and I'll drop a rate, what you can improve, etc.

You don't have to tho obv

 

[jc0]

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