How does excessive vertical height change the face from the front?

[Deleted member 26824]

Asking this to further understand posterior maxillary impaction for anterior open bite.

 

[Deleted member 26824]

humble bumble bump

 

[HarrierDuBois]

MF bumped after 1 minute.

 

[Deleted member 32486]

Bump.

 

[Deleted member 29651]

Bump

 

[Deleted member 26824]

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double the bump double the power innit

 

[anticel]

makes it taller/longer, not necessarily bad

 

[Deleted member 26824]

makes it taller/longer, not necessarily bad

makes what exactly longer? how does impaction change face therefor?

@RealSurgerymax

 

[mortis]

makes what exactly longer?

the penis

 

[anticel]

makes what exactly longer? how does impaction change face therefor?

@RealSurgerymax

his midface will have more length vertically, often times the chin too a bit

 

[Mrinfinityx]

double the bump double the power innit

Like a low inhib Chad

 

[Deleted member 26824]

his midface will have more length vertically, often times the chin too a bit

so a gummy smile would express itself on making an vertical longer philtrum and a anterior open bite by increasing midface.

chin shouldnt be effected and if then only because of the cw rotation of mandible caused by the malocclusion.

how do you think would the soft tissue react as face gets smaller and its less stretched therefor? Im afraid it‘ll give a rouder face look like in this patient:



the symmetry first of all was not fully corrected and now looks uncanny. Soft tissue got worse. changes seem to be underwhelming.

 

[anticel]

so a gummy smile would express itself on making an vertical longer philtrum and a anterior open bite by increasing midface.

chin shouldnt be effected and if then only because of the cw rotation of mandible caused by the malocclusion.

how do you think would the soft tissue react as face gets smaller and its less stretched therefor? Im afraid it‘ll give a rouder face look like in this patient:

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the symmetry first of all was not fully corrected and now looks uncanny. Soft tissue got worse. changes seem to be underwhelming.

yeah seems like that, u have sfs?

 

[Deleted member 26824]

yeah seems like that, u have sfs?

no, did you even read my post? I have an anterior open bite, it elongates the face with vertical excess and.

 

[anticel]

Ah nah lmao just getting from a class 3 to normal will only have very very minor changes on soft tissue. It will neither give nor fix a gummy smile.

 

[Deleted member 32669]

Asking this to further understand posterior maxillary impaction for anterior open bite.

could give you a hooked nose

 

[jfbjfb]

so a gummy smile would express itself on making an vertical longer philtrum and a anterior open bite by increasing midface.

chin shouldnt be effected and if then only because of the cw rotation of mandible caused by the malocclusion.

how do you think would the soft tissue react as face gets smaller and its less stretched therefor? Im afraid it‘ll give a rouder face look like in this patient:

View attachment 2457290

the symmetry first of all was not fully corrected and now looks uncanny. Soft tissue got worse. changes seem to be underwhelming.

This is why when Alfaro treats patients with long-face syndrome he tries to keep the face long, not necessarily giving them a ton of impactation and ccw because the soft tissue would be more compressed rather than stretched. He mentions this specifically in one of his videos.

I also suffer from an anterior open bite that will be corrected in the upcoming months. Until now I cannot speak from personal experience but according to my ortho it should help at giving me a better chin because currently it is not really protuding. Whenever the lips are not sealed it becomed better defined.

 

[Deleted member 26824]

This is why when Alfaro treats patients with long-face syndrome he tries to keep the face long, not necessarily giving them a ton of impactation and ccw because the soft tissue would be more compressed rather than stretched. He mentions this specifically in one of his videos.

I also suffer from an anterior open bite that will be corrected in the upcoming months. Until now I cannot speak from personal experience but according to my ortho it should help at giving me a better chin because currently it is not really protuding. Whenever the lips are not sealed it becomed better defined.

posterior impaction is necessary to fix the malocclusion tho. I‘ve heard alfaro say that, but if you advance the face forward it should compensate for the soft tissue change.

Keep me updated on the surgery tho good luck!!

could give you a hooked nose

i already have a hooked nose, but the nose will uplift anyways after maxillary advancement

 

[geenk worg]

no, did you even read my post? I have an anterior open bite, it elongates the face with vertical excess and.

It elongates the lower facial height, if that's what you wanna know

 

[RealSurgerymax]

makes what exactly longer? how does impaction change face therefor?

@RealSurgerymax

It makes lower jaw and chin seem shorter. It doesn’t change the face much on its own.