How I try to justify when I see an Incel guy with gf

[Jason Voorhees]

Many people here are a perfectionist. I'm one too. You think I need to be 100% ready, rich, and ripped before I approach a girl. So you take O shots this is a mistake The guy you think has nothing usually has one thing. Lack of Inhibition/NT/social skills

He doesn't care if he gets rejected. He slides into DMs, he talks to girls in class, he jokes around. He shoots 100 shots, misses 99, and hits 1
You see the 1 success and think he has a secret. The secret is that he didn't paralyze himself with shame. He showed up while are currently hiding your room. You cannot get lucky if you are not in the room.

Many relationships at 20-25 are also not based on High Value. They are based on Co-dependency.There are many girls who have a savior complex. They subconsciously look for a guy who is a bit of a mess so they can "fix" him or "mother" him. It makes them feel needed.Do not envy this kind of LTRs. These relationships are often toxic. The guy is dependent, and the girl is controlling I've seen it irl

Another factor is that most of these couples met because they were forced to be in the same space. Same class, same club, same friend group. They spent 100 hours together by accident. Eventually, familiarity breeds attraction. While you are isolating yourself. You go from Class to Room You are not creating collision points with people. The guy with nothing might just be social enough to hang out in groups where things happen naturally.


And finally to answer the million dollar question. Why YOU can't be "That Guy" right now.

You niggas might ask "If he can get a girl being a loser, why do I have to get a six pack, grind Leetcode and get my skull cracked to get a girl?"

It is because you have a conscience.. You are tortured by your lack of progress. You feel guilty when you waste time. You feel shame about your addictions, are ashamed of your vices and hate your life. The truth is if you got a girlfriend right now, you would not be relaxed like that guy. You would be anxious. You would wonder Why does she like me? I'm a loser You would self-sabotage. The subhuman is likely content with being subhuman. You are not. You are ambitious, want to be heard, seen. Want to be a chad that's why you are here and in pain friend.

 

[chudpiller]

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@BigBallsLarry @imontheloose

 

[Klasik616]

Mind masturbation

 

[Foreverbrad]

To be honest I never had a chance at that, I was trucel subhuman before I could grow a beard to hide my recession. Then mechanical engineering was a 95% male degree so you can imagine how conceited the foids were. And now the only opportunity for propinquity would be the workplace but you mustn’t shit where you eat.

It’s not that I have a conscience it’s that I lack opportunities and those that do exist come with extreme consequences for mediocre reward. Try to shoot your shot 100 times at work and you’ll be out the door before you get to the tenth. At best.

What you say is true for many, I’m just giving a different perspective.

 

[gymceltard]

Very high IQ post.

Oofy doofy is law. Looks don’t matter and blackpill is fake.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

To be honest I never had a chance at that, I was trucel subhuman before I could grow a beard to hide my recession. Then mechanical engineering was a 95% male degree so you can imagine how conceited the foids were. And now the only opportunity for propinquity would be the workplace but you mustn’t shit where you eat.

It’s not that I have a conscience it’s that I lack opportunities and those that do exist come with extreme consequences for mediocre reward. Try to shoot your shot 100 times at work and you’ll be out the door before you get to the tenth. At best.

What you say is true for many, I’m just giving a different perspective.

I agree. I stay far away from relationships at work too. That shit is pointless and a horrible dynamic.

 

[NoExit]

He slides into DMs, he talks to girls in class, he jokes around. He shoots 100 shots, misses 99, and hits 1
You see the 1 success and think he has a secret. The secret is that he didn't paralyze himself with shame. He showed up while are currently hiding your room. You cannot get lucky if you are not in the room.

i have done this shit and i got nothing lol

 

[averagenormie]

I do nothing yet I got no gf

 

[Jason Voorhees]

i have done this shit and i got nothing lol

Sliding in the DMs of the 3 foids you know in your life doesn't count.

 

[unknownincel]

So i am volcel?

 

[NoExit]

Sliding in the DMs of the 3 foids you know in your life doesn't count.

100 girls that i never met

 

[gymceltard]

He slides into DMs, he talks to girls in class, he jokes around. He shoots 100 shots, misses 99, and hits 1

How do I cope with rejections? I can’t even handle 1 rejection without wanting to rope

 

[choppedpajeet]

Many people here are a perfectionist. I'm one too. You think I need to be 100% ready, rich, and ripped before I approach a girl. So you take O shots this is a mistake The guy you think has nothing usually has one thing. Lack of Inhibition/NT/social skills

He doesn't care if he gets rejected. He slides into DMs, he talks to girls in class, he jokes around. He shoots 100 shots, misses 99, and hits 1
You see the 1 success and think he has a secret. The secret is that he didn't paralyze himself with shame. He showed up while are currently hiding your room. You cannot get lucky if you are not in the room.

Many relationships at 20-25 are also not based on High Value. They are based on Co-dependency.There are many girls who have a savior complex. They subconsciously look for a guy who is a bit of a mess so they can "fix" him or "mother" him. It makes them feel needed.Do not envy this kind of LTRs. These relationships are often toxic. The guy is dependent, and the girl is controlling I've seen it irl

Another factor is that most of these couples met because they were forced to be in the same space. Same class, same club, same friend group. They spent 100 hours together by accident. Eventually, familiarity breeds attraction. While you are isolating yourself. You go from Class to Room You are not creating collision points with people. The guy with nothing might just be social enough to hang out in groups where things happen naturally.


And finally to answer the million dollar question. Why YOU can't be "That Guy" right now.

You niggas might ask "If he can get a girl being a loser, why do I have to get a six pack, grind Leetcode and get my skull cracked to get a girl?"

It is because you have a conscience.. You are tortured by your lack of progress. You feel guilty when you waste time. You feel shame about your addictions, are ashamed of your vices and hate your life. The truth is if you got a girlfriend right now, you would not be relaxed like that guy. You would be anxious. You would wonder Why does she like me? I'm a loser You would self-sabotage. The subhuman is likely content with being subhuman. You are not. You are ambitious, want to be heard, seen. Want to be a chad that's why you are here and in pain friend.

only works for mtns minimum not syb 5s like me. IF i even shoot one shot i will be treated like a rapist

 

[Deleted member 88329]

He doesn't care if he gets rejected. He slides into DMs, he talks to girls in class, he jokes around. He shoots 100 shots, misses 99, and hits 1
You see the 1 success and think he has a secret. The secret is that he didn't paralyze himself with shame. He showed up while are currently hiding your room. You cannot get lucky if you are not in the room.

At this point it's just humiliation ritual. Could never be me

 

[Klasik616]

To be honest I never had a chance at that, I was trucel subhuman before I could grow a beard to hide my recession. Then mechanical engineering was a 95% male degree so you can imagine how conceited the foids were. And now the only opportunity for propinquity would be the workplace but you mustn’t shit where you eat.

It’s not that I have a conscience it’s that I lack opportunities and those that do exist come with extreme consequences for mediocre reward. Try to shoot your shot 100 times at work and you’ll be out the door before you get to the tenth. At best.

What you say is true for many, I’m just giving a different perspective.

Yes I also suffer from TFL (True Forced Loneliness) impossed by life opportunities outside of my control.

 

[Deleted member 306200]

Many people here are a perfectionist. I'm one too. You think I need to be 100% ready, rich, and ripped before I approach a girl. So you take O shots this is a mistake The guy you think has nothing usually has one thing. Lack of Inhibition/NT/social skills

He doesn't care if he gets rejected. He slides into DMs, he talks to girls in class, he jokes around. He shoots 100 shots, misses 99, and hits 1
You see the 1 success and think he has a secret. The secret is that he didn't paralyze himself with shame. He showed up while are currently hiding your room. You cannot get lucky if you are not in the room.

Many relationships at 20-25 are also not based on High Value. They are based on Co-dependency.There are many girls who have a savior complex. They subconsciously look for a guy who is a bit of a mess so they can "fix" him or "mother" him. It makes them feel needed.Do not envy this kind of LTRs. These relationships are often toxic. The guy is dependent, and the girl is controlling I've seen it irl

Another factor is that most of these couples met because they were forced to be in the same space. Same class, same club, same friend group. They spent 100 hours together by accident. Eventually, familiarity breeds attraction. While you are isolating yourself. You go from Class to Room You are not creating collision points with people. The guy with nothing might just be social enough to hang out in groups where things happen naturally.


And finally to answer the million dollar question. Why YOU can't be "That Guy" right now.

You niggas might ask "If he can get a girl being a loser, why do I have to get a six pack, grind Leetcode and get my skull cracked to get a girl?"

It is because you have a conscience.. You are tortured by your lack of progress. You feel guilty when you waste time. You feel shame about your addictions, are ashamed of your vices and hate your life. The truth is if you got a girlfriend right now, you would not be relaxed like that guy. You would be anxious. You would wonder Why does she like me? I'm a loser You would self-sabotage. The subhuman is likely content with being subhuman. You are not. You are ambitious, want to be heard, seen. Want to be a chad that's why you are here and in pain friend.

Man fuck this. Relationships are also fucked today. Escortmaxx might just be our last choice

 

[looksmaxxingatitsfi]

Many people here are a perfectionist. I'm one too. You think I need to be 100% ready, rich, and ripped before I approach a girl. So you take O shots this is a mistake The guy you think has nothing usually has one thing. Lack of Inhibition/NT/social skills

He doesn't care if he gets rejected. He slides into DMs, he talks to girls in class, he jokes around. He shoots 100 shots, misses 99, and hits 1
You see the 1 success and think he has a secret. The secret is that he didn't paralyze himself with shame. He showed up while are currently hiding your room. You cannot get lucky if you are not in the room.

Many relationships at 20-25 are also not based on High Value. They are based on Co-dependency.There are many girls who have a savior complex. They subconsciously look for a guy who is a bit of a mess so they can "fix" him or "mother" him. It makes them feel needed.Do not envy this kind of LTRs. These relationships are often toxic. The guy is dependent, and the girl is controlling I've seen it irl

Another factor is that most of these couples met because they were forced to be in the same space. Same class, same club, same friend group. They spent 100 hours together by accident. Eventually, familiarity breeds attraction. While you are isolating yourself. You go from Class to Room You are not creating collision points with people. The guy with nothing might just be social enough to hang out in groups where things happen naturally.


And finally to answer the million dollar question. Why YOU can't be "That Guy" right now.

You niggas might ask "If he can get a girl being a loser, why do I have to get a six pack, grind Leetcode and get my skull cracked to get a girl?"

It is because you have a conscience.. You are tortured by your lack of progress. You feel guilty when you waste time. You feel shame about your addictions, are ashamed of your vices and hate your life. The truth is if you got a girlfriend right now, you would not be relaxed like that guy. You would be anxious. You would wonder Why does she like me? I'm a loser You would self-sabotage. The subhuman is likely content with being subhuman. You are not. You are ambitious, want to be heard, seen. Want to be a chad that's why you are here and in pain friend.

Very well explained, amazing bro

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Bumo

 

[Sprinkles]

They’re just matrix NPCs

 

[Acquiescence]

I’ve watched too much Rehab, I’m way too wary of becoming an oofy doofy atp, so that’s why I will waste my life getting futile surgeries and die alone

 

[WrothEnd]

You are tortured by your lack of progress. You feel guilty when you waste time. You feel shame about your addictions, are ashamed of your vices and hate your life.

Wow, I wanted to say this before I read that part. You put it into words way better than I could.

Even if I got a girlfriend right now, I would feel like I don't deserve it. I’m not proud of where I’m at, and I need to be better.

Do you think this is something you have to overcome? Or do you feel like it might actually be an advantage (in the long run)? It could motivate you to improve, but at the same time it comes with its own set of disadvantages, like never being content with yourself.

You are still getting surgery, right? Is this why? I always thought that if I got into a long term relationship, I would probably stop thriving for surgery and so on, but thinking about it, I'm probably not being true to myself.

 

[htbslayeer]

Mixture of water and copium, I get where you were headed to but this thread just isn’t it

 

[BlackFag]

It is because you have a conscience.. You are tortured by your lack of progress. You feel guilty when you waste time. You feel shame about your addictions, are ashamed of your vices and hate your life. The truth is if you got a girlfriend right now, you would not be relaxed like that guy. You would be anxious. You would wonder Why does she like me? I'm a loser You would self-sabotage. The subhuman is likely content with being subhuman. You are not. You are ambitious, want to be heard, seen. Want to be a chad that's why you are here and in pain friend.

although i agree
i think that many of these sub-3s with women are just lucky
just because i win 1 million at the lottery doesn't mean that every lottery ticket gives 1 million
and the fact we notice them so easily shows how rare they really are

many of us cannot simply bet that some foid finds us as is
we have to change for the world
not hope that the world changes for us

that is the unfortunate truth

 

[BeardedUnicorn]

High iq, will fly over the head of many users here unfortunately

 

[SplashJuice]

Man fuck this. Relationships are also fucked today. Escortmaxx might just be our last choice

Escortmaxxing is hyper based, well it's better than rotting.

I used to have so much incel rage because other men got to fuck hot pieces of meat whilst I get nothing. Nowadays, when I see a hot girl outside I don't think much because I've already fucked a girl that looked like her before.

 

[BeardedUnicorn]

Escortmaxxing is hyper based, well it's better than rotting.

I used to have so much incel rage because other men got to fuck hot pieces of meat whilst I get nothing. Nowadays, when I see a hot girl outside I don't think much because I've already fucked a girl that looked like her before.

I am trying to save ebough for seeking/sugaring tbh. i used to do whoremaxxing back in the day but idk a switch flipped in me.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Wow, I wanted to say this before I read that part. You put it into words way better than I could.

Even if I got a girlfriend right now, I would feel like I don't deserve it. I’m not proud of where I’m at, and I need to be better.

Do you think this is something you have to overcome? Or do you feel like it might actually be an advantage (in the long run)? It could motivate you to improve, but at the same time it comes with its own set of disadvantages, like never being content with yourself.

You are still getting surgery, right? Is this why? I always thought that if I got into a long term relationship, I would probably stop thriving for surgery and so on, but thinking about it, I'm probably not being true to myself.

I was literally just talking about this with @SlayerJonas yesterday he hit me with the exact same question. how do you stop the self-sabotage when you feel like you don’t deserve the win yet. I broke it down for him the same way I see it for us That conscience that’s torturing you right now is your advantage long term. The guys who are fine staying average stay average forever. We’re not built like that the pain you feel is fuel. It’s pushing you to become someone you’re genuinely proud of,

Start seeing your ambition as a strength. Use simple CBT stuff like challenge the I don't deserve this thoughts with real evidence of progress. When I'm not enough thought hits, counter it with cold hard evidence of progress small stuff like crushing a workout, solving a tough problem, or even just holding eye contact longer than usual. Also set realistic goals without tying your whole worth to them and get used to failing at things. Regarding the surgery part I'm not sure about the surgery rn. Because I have different priorities rn but I do plan to have that one day. Maybe in Q3 or Q4 of this year.

 

[BeardedUnicorn]

I was literally just talking about this with @SlayerJonas yesterday he hit me with the exact same question. how do you stop the self-sabotage when you feel like you don’t deserve the win yet. I broke it down for him the same way I see it for us That conscience that’s torturing you right now is your advantage long term. The guys who are fine staying average stay average forever. We’re not built like that the pain you feel is fuel. It’s pushing you to become someone you’re genuinely proud of,

Start seeing your ambition as a strength. Use simple CBT stuff like challenge the I don't deserve this thoughts with real evidence of progress. When I'm not enough thought hits, counter it with cold hard evidence of progress small stuff like crushing a workout, solving a tough problem, or even just holding eye contact longer than usual. Also set realistic goals without tying your whole worth to them and get used to failing at things. Regarding the surgery part I'm not sure about the surgery rn. Because I have different priorities rn but I do plan to have that one day. Maybe in Q3 or Q4 of this year.

I have this exact issue. I fell for the women will just approach you meme, and when foids show me the slightest interest and persue things I fuck it up. I need to be more proactive in my life but years being a high inhib neurotic have destroyed me.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Bumo

 

[zerofad3]

Had a MTB+ who was all over me but because i'm a mentalcel I ended it.

Selfsabotage because deep down I felt not worthy somehow. FML