How important is height?

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Past what height are you safe. Getting height mogged is brutal. And why is height so important for women?
 
Read this thread I made a while back
 
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very important
 
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It signals health, throughout history height has been correlated mostly with a good diet. You have a height limit set by genetics, and then your upbringing dictates whether or not you'll reach that.
 
it matters but girls care more about face and body
 
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I think the question “how important” is just malformed because with sexual attractiveness nothing is just more or less important than anything else. Of course, if you are 5’4 it doesnt matter how good your face is. You are not going to have any luck with women. But that doesnt mean its more important than face, it just means that a certain height is a prerequisite, under a certain height you are completely valueless in the sexual marketplace, and beyond a certain height women will find you more attractive or more sexually appealing.

Usually, the minimum height required in america is around 5’5. But to have a chance with around ~50 percent of women in the sexual marketplace you need to be 5’7. To have a height that isnt really a burden but doesnt really help you need to be around 5’10. These numbers are from when women are polled and their data of who they date is collected. I think its reliable.
 
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Height is important in the sense that it's a prerequisite to be even considered as a potential mate. Height is one of those things that only detracts if you don't have enough of it. Face, on the other hand, needs to be a LOT higher than average, and being non-deformed facially isn't enough. Enough height is bare minimum to be a man. Being tall will give you an advantage particularly with tall women, but an average faced tall guy with a non roiders body will not have much of an advantage. It's just a qualifier.
 
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Above 180cm is ideal
 
height and dick are something thats very important but can only be determined with genetics and cant be changed
 
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It signals health, throughout history height has been correlated mostly with a good diet. You have a height limit set by genetics, and then your upbringing dictates whether or not you'll reach that.
Past what height are you safe
 
Height is important in the sense that it's a prerequisite to be even considered as a potential mate. Height is one of those things that only detracts if you don't have enough of it. Face, on the other hand, needs to be a LOT higher than average, and being non-deformed facially isn't enough. Enough height is bare minimum to be a man. Being tall will give you an advantage particularly with tall women, but an average faced tall guy with a non roiders body will not have much of an advantage. It's just a qualifier.
What is the bare minimum height?
 
Past what height are you safe

Every girl is different, but i'd say 5'10 will be safe for most women in the real world. Ideally you'd want to be over 6 though for the most options.
 
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It signals health, throughout history height has been correlated mostly with a good diet. You have a height limit set by genetics, and then your upbringing dictates whether or not you'll reach that.
What should you of done growing up to reach your height?
 
180 and up is okay but not ideal, above 185 cm is safe zone and ideal
 
What is the bare minimum height?

That's hard to exactly pinpoint. It would probably be a range of heights, and definitely country dependent. In LTRs, face, frame, indicators of virlity and high T tend to take a back seat to height and indicatives of a protector and beta orbiter. Which is why women can fuck up, be slayed by chads even when they're inferior, but men tend to date up, and be in LTRs with women out of their league.


It depends what your goals are, but in the US, I would say 5'8 is the bare MINIMUM to not be horribly disadvantaged. That's around 35th percentile, and even though it is disadvantageous, if you have face and a decent body, it's not going to disadvantage you much. With shoes, you will look average.
 
5'8 minimum, if under it, pitbullmax. Get in gym, go retarded, be strong as fuck, fraud
 
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What should you of done growing up to reach your height?

Well science noticed a change from hunter gatherers, nearly 30,000 years ago they averaged 6 ft, and then we had an agricultural boom 10,000 years ago which changed the height of men to 5'4 on average. This is because of a change in diet. From wild animal meat to mostly farm foods.
 
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That's hard to exactly pinpoint. It would probably be a range of heights, and definitely country dependent. In LTRs, face, frame, indicators of virlity and high T tend to take a back seat to height and indicatives of a protector and beta orbiter. Which is why women can fuck up, be slayed by chads even when they're inferior, but men tend to date up, and be in LTRs with women out of their league.


It depends what your goals are, but in the US, I would say 5'8 is the bare MINIMUM to not be horribly disadvantaged. That's around 35th percentile, and even though it is disadvantageous, if you have face and a decent body, it's not going to disadvantage you much. With shoes, you will look average.
Chads inferior?
 
I want to be 200cm very bad
 
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5'8 barefoot and 5'10 in shoes is safe

5'7 is borderline

below 5'6 is manlet
 
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Well science noticed a change from hunter gatherers, nearly 30,000 years ago they averaged 6 ft, and then we had an agricultural boom 10,000 years ago which changed the height of men to 5'4 on average. This is because of a change in diet. From wild animal meat to mostly farm foods.
Wait, what are you saying? 5’4 on average, that just doesn’t make sense... The average height must be like 5’8 or smth.
 
Fucking check the best of the best section ffs.

@Kingkellz has some real gems in there.

Don't ask generic questions and spam the section man. Tryna help you wigga.
 
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The taller the better. If you're below 5'6", it's a sexual death sentence.

But among normies, if you're 5'10" at least and can't get laid... then something is wrong with your face. Face > height no matter what.

Being above 6' myself... I can tell you that I can't get laid and it's due to my face. I'd be an IRL gigachad with a 5.5 PSL face.
 
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Wait, what are you saying? 5’4 on average, that just doesn’t make sense... The average height must be like 5’8 or smth.

At the end of the 1800s our height average went up and now we're at 5'8. But for the last 10,000 years the average has been around 5'4.
 
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At the end of the 1800s our height average went up and now we're at 5'8. But for the last 10,000 years the average has been around 5'4.
Oh okay, thank you for the explanation.
 
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Very important but face is 👑
 
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5’9 barefoot seems to be a safe height. Because when you put on shoes my G, it might add 1-2 inches and u can fraud up

I’m 5’8 but can fraud 3 inches with Air Maxes or boots and orthopaedics breh

bitches don’t even look my way nikka JFL
 
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Height is more important for LTR but even for getting laid, under 5'6 is a massive obstacle.
 
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Safe zone is 5’10
Death sentence is 5’4 and below
 
I'm 5'6". My dating pool is not empty, but insanely smaller compared to taller men. 90% of the girls I've dated were shorter than me. 7-8% were the same height, and the remaining 1-3cm taller.

On Tinder, it is not a big deal as you don't have to disclose your height. Tall people who disclose it will have a bonus, but at least you won't be immediately rejected due to your short height.

On other apps, you can disclose your height, and women can filter on it. Even by frauding 5'7" I get an incredibly smaller amount of matches on apps where my height is visible.

I have been explicitly rejected for my height quite a few times - some girls on Tinder just asked for it, then either ghosted, unmatched, or made fun of me. I think one or two showed some empathy/pity. I don't know what's worse.

I also have a feeling that my height was the determining factor in the poor outcome of some dates. Girls that didn't know my height in advance were eager to meet via texting, bubbly during the date, but didn't get turned on at any escalation attempt. I have no proof but I think they expected me to be taller, as eye contact was not a problem at all and some even complimented my body.

Height is also a huge factor in the workplace and daily social situations. I often get ignored by bartenders or work peers when someone taller is nearby and trying to get their attention, for example.

Height is also the hardest and riskiest thing to improve. Leg lengthening surgery can leave you crippled or with limited mobility, costs a fuckton, and only increases your height by max 6-8cm (unless you perform multiple surgeries).

At my height, 5'6", I'm on the border where getting LL is between a good idea and completely retarded. Do I want to risk my mobility and life to go from 5'6" to 5'9"? Maybe some day I will pull the plug but it's hard to justify, especially given the cost.

So yeah, height is extremely important. It's not over if you're a normie and 5'6" (or above), but you have to lower your standard for girls and forget dating tall sought after stacies.

If you're below 5'5", LL is probably worth the risk. If you're below 5'3", it's mostly over unless you date extremely short girls or midgets and you have a super nice body and face.

Fuck this gay earth. If I ever have a son, I will inject so much HGH in him and make him tall as a fucking skyscraper.
 
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In the usa 5"11 is minimum

in most parts of europe id say 6"1 is minimum

Might sound far fetched but kids these days are very tall, for example i'm 6"0 barefoot, at my workplace itleast 75% of the men are taller than me most are around 6"2.
 
In the usa 5"11 is minimum

in most parts of europe id say 6"1 is minimum

Might sound far fetched but kids these days are very tall, for example i'm 6"0 barefoot, at my workplace itleast 75% of the men are taller than me most are around 6"2.
This is true I’m just below 6’2 in the US and I’m still relatively short
 
This is true I’m just below 6’2 in the US and I’m still relatively short
Yeah unfortunately we can't all be born with 6"4 genetics but ima try and get their
 
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short answer :
its very important and can detrimental , but face is more important than height

long answer:
assuming accurate measurement (since everyone add 2-3 inches to a self reported height) , and good frame , the real ideal height is a real 6'2- 6'5 ,

- a real 5'10 -6'1 is still a high tier normie height in most places where it still gives you a boost for your SMV . a chadlite height

- a real 5'7-5'9 is a manlet tier grey zone height , really depends on where you lives , can lower your SMV or just neutral, you wouldnt be able to " just pick a girl you like" even with god tier face , but can still gets girl even with normie face

under this ( turbomanlet tier) , the decrease multiplier would make your SMV so low . its over just rope....gonna be super hard . but not a death sentences , the only thing to do is get out of this forum , cope with the bluepill classic "pErSonaLIty aNd GamE" and hope you can get atleast a very redpilled religious woman , and you still need a normie tier face ( not subhuman )

Self reported height is a meme , ALWAYS subtract them by 2 or 3 inches to know the real height or add it for your "height" .

remember that face is more important , manlet with 8/10 face can still slay and mog an average 5/10 6'4 guy , there are many example of this , as long as the girl is still shorter than the manlet.
 
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This is true I’m just below 6’2 in the US and I’m still relatively short
Cap

Maybe the particularly neighborhood/city u live in is rich tall white people mostly, but in regular areas if you’re a legit 6’2 barefoot ur mogging most people considering that’s almost 6’4 in regular forces or maxes
 
That's hard to exactly pinpoint. It would probably be a range of heights, and definitely country dependent. In LTRs, face, frame, indicators of virlity and high T tend to take a back seat to height and indicatives of a protector and beta orbiter. Which is why women can fuck up, be slayed by chads even when they're inferior, but men tend to date up, and be in LTRs with women out of their league.


It depends what your goals are, but in the US, I would say 5'8 is the bare MINIMUM to not be horribly disadvantaged. That's around 35th percentile, and even though it is disadvantageous, if you have face and a decent body, it's not going to disadvantage you much. With shoes, you will look average.

What the absolute fuck is this with shoes bs I see everywhere? Literally everyone Else is wearing shoes too
 
Male starts at 6'4. Man starts at 6'8.
 
Cap

Maybe the particularly neighborhood/city u live in is rich tall white people mostly, but in regular areas if you’re a legit 6’2 barefoot ur mogging most people considering that’s almost 6’4 in regular forces or maxes
My city is tall
 
it really doesn’t matter above 5’9-5’10
it’s a halo but really doesn’t take anything away once you pass 5’10
 
I'm getting leg lengthening
 
it really doesn’t matter above 5’9-5’10
it’s a halo but really doesn’t take anything away once you pass 5’10
Who’s that dude in ur avi
 
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tbh I'm 6'2 and if i go clubbing I'm average there but in town I'm mogging.
 

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