How invisible is MTN

[yayatourer]

I often get rated MTN in here and I wondered what's the treatment of a MTN because I have a roided body and I tend to think that MTN with body halo wouldn't struggle to get girls
(Not the highest quality nor quantity). I'm NT and social.

But having some approach from time to time and some girls flirting and pursuing at other time.

I also never get real IOIs IRL even from landwhales.

I only have a few likes a week on Tinder with shirtless pics.

I'm starting to think that I got underated and I'm LTN. Or maybe the attraction of women is binary and it's hot or not and most often not hot for sub HTN.

If you want to see my face come in private.

What are your opinions dear brothers

 

[terachadfr]

If you want to see my face come in private.

PM bhai

 

[noonespecial]

Not invisible

 

[Alucard69]

Depends on the MTN, "appeal" isn't a meme

 

[yayatourer]

Depends on the MTN, "appeal" isn't a meme

Yeah but I think appeal is just fucked up like a LTN with high appeal is a MTN and a MTN with bad appeal is a LTN.

 

[yayatourer]

Not invisible

Can you develop your experiences bro ?

 

[BigBoy]

Send pic man

 

[lepo2317]

I am 4/10, body maxxed natural 6'1 guy. So low MTN. I get girls staring at me, sometimes smiling and even approaching. Girls are 5-6/10 at most tho and it happens so rarely that even if it happens I don't act on it because I'm not used to attention and girls wanting my dick. You need to ascend, you are at the worst spot. You need to be 5.5/10 atleast to be visible to sluts OFTEN, not once in a long time.

 

[noonespecial]

Can you develop your experiences bro ?

I've been rated anything from high ltn-chadlite. The accurate rating is probably MTN/htn. I've never been rejected in cold approaches and currently talking to 2 htbs

 

[noonespecial]

I often get rated MTN in here and I wondered what's the treatment of a MTN because I have a roided body and I tend to think that MTN with body halo wouldn't struggle to get girls
(Not the highest quality nor quantity). I'm NT and social.

But having some approach from time to time and some girls flirting and pursuing at other time.

I also never get real IOIs IRL even from landwhales.

I only have a few likes a week on Tinder with shirtless pics.

I'm starting to think that I got underated and I'm LTN. Or maybe the attraction of women is binary and it's hot or not and most often not hot for sub HTN.

If you want to see my face come in private.

What are your opinions dear brothers

Pm your face tbh

 

[yayatourer]

I've been rated anything from high ltn-chadlite. The accurate rating is probably MTN/htn. I've never been rejected in cold approaches and currently talking to 2 htbs

The thing is it makes a huge difference if you re HTN and make sense because you enter the top 20% I didn't cold approached since looksmaxing because im an abused dog but I dont think I would get rejected depending on the level of the girl

 

[NoLongerHuman]

Invisible if you're mostly non nt


pm face bhai

 

[yayatourer]

I am 4/10, body maxxed natural 6'1 guy. So low MTN. I get girls staring at me, sometimes smiling and even approaching. Girls are 5-6/10 at most tho and it happens so rarely that even if it happens I don't act on it because I'm not used to attention and girls wanting my dick. You need to ascend, you are at the worst spot. You need to be 5.5/10 atleast to be visible to sluts OFTEN, not once in a long time.

Can you show me your face you might underestimate yourself. Where and when did you got approached. I'm 5'10 so it might play a role too

 

[Alucard69]

Yeah but I think appeal is just fucked up like a LTN with high appeal is a MTN and a MTN with bad appeal is a LTN.

There are so many factors to take into account. Someone objectively better looking can look worse to certain demographic of women etc.. like Jordan is a Psl God here, but there are HTNs who are infinitely more attractive to JBs

 

[lepo2317]

Can you show me your face you might underestimate yourself. Where and when did you got approached. I'm 5'10 so it might play a role too

I'm not showing my face here, I have so many people hating me that I would be doxxed in a second. 5'10 is higher than average height, I think you are at the sweet spot where your height doesn't matter. I don't go out to clubs bars anymore. I was mogged so hard that I don't want to see my 6 inches shorter friend getting all the attention just because his face is 6/10 while I'm 4/10. I get approached in random places doing stuff like shopping, gymming, going to work. IT HAPPENS 3 TIMES A YEAR FROM 5-6/10 GIRLS WHO ARE IN THEIR TEENS WHILE I'M/WAS IN MY LATE 20s.

 

[yayatourer]

There are so many factors to take into account. Someone objectively better looking can look worse to certain demographic of women etc.. like Jordan is a Psl God here, but there are HTNs who are infinitely more attractive to JBs

I think appeal is your rank jordan in certain pic is a chad but is a weird mtn alien on other depending on body fat etc

 

[yayatourer]

I'm not showing my face here, I have so many people hating me that I would be doxxed in a second. 5'10 is higher than average height, I think you are at the sweet spot where your height doesn't matter. I don't go out to clubs bars anymore. I was mogged so hard that I don't want to see my 6 inches shorter friend getting all the attention just because his face is 6/10 while I'm 4/10. I get approached in random places doing stuff like shopping, gymming, going to work. IT HAPPENS 3 TIMES A YEAR FROM 5-6/10 GIRLS WHO ARE IN THEIR TEENS WHILE I'M/WAS IN MY LATE 20s.

Lifefuel tbh where are you from and is this the body halo ? You see a difference from when you weren't gymmax or is it looksmaxing your face ?
Can you show me body though ?

 

[Alucard69]

I think appeal is your rank jordan in certain pic is a chad but is a weird mtn alien on other depending on body fat etc

This guy is considered a PSL God here (despite his squished face, bad averageness), and his face is basically perfectly developed, but has less appeal than alot of men who would get mogged next to him.

 

[reptiles]

I've been rated anything from high ltn-chadlite. The accurate rating is probably MTN/htn. I've never been rejected in cold approaches and currently talking to 2 htbs

You have a great personality and aren't missoganistic

 

[reptiles]

I often get rated MTN in here and I wondered what's the treatment of a MTN because I have a roided body and I tend to think that MTN with body halo wouldn't struggle to get girls
(Not the highest quality nor quantity). I'm NT and social.

But having some approach from time to time and some girls flirting and pursuing at other time.

I also never get real IOIs IRL even from landwhales.

I only have a few likes a week on Tinder with shirtless pics.

I'm starting to think that I got underated and I'm LTN. Or maybe the attraction of women is binary and it's hot or not and most often not hot for sub HTN.

If you want to see my face come in private.

What are your opinions dear brothers

Well as inceltv says there is fuck at difference between a looksmaxed mid tier normie and a normie the difference is what looks better in the reflection when looking at rehab room vids

 

[yayatourer]

You have a great personality and aren't missoganisticView attachment 3259759

I have a bad haircut and im mysoginistic that might be why

 

[reptiles]

I have a bad haircut and im mysoginistic that might be why

Just look like him and you will slay bro the standards have never been lower

 

[noonespecial]

You have a great personality and aren't missoganisticView attachment 3259759

Yeah

 

[reptiles]

Yeah

Trust bro my 4 out of 10 normie friend above says hes low tier normie bro

 

[yayatourer]

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Trust bro my 4 out of 10 normie friend above says hes low tier normie bro

3.5 max

 

[noonespecial]

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Trust bro my 4 out of 10 normie friend above says hes low tier normie bro

Ltn if he's a misogynist

 

[Nowiff.Belgrade]

Dark matter tier

 

[Zenis]

There are so many factors to take into account. Someone objectively better looking can look worse to certain demographic of women etc.. like Jordan is a Psl God here, but there are HTNs who are infinitely more attractive to JBs

Yes this, appeal matters more then psl irl

A 6’3 4.5 psl who’s JB appeal maxxed will do way better then a 5’9 5.5 psl squint maxxed autist

 

[Zenis]

I often get rated MTN in here and I wondered what's the treatment of a MTN because I have a roided body and I tend to think that MTN with body halo wouldn't struggle to get girls
(Not the highest quality nor quantity). I'm NT and social.

But having some approach from time to time and some girls flirting and pursuing at other time.

I also never get real IOIs IRL even from landwhales.

I only have a few likes a week on Tinder with shirtless pics.

I'm starting to think that I got underated and I'm LTN. Or maybe the attraction of women is binary and it's hot or not and most often not hot for sub HTN.

If you want to see my face come in private.

What are your opinions dear brothers

Very vague question, pm me your face bro

 

[Olivecel]

Mtn is not invisible. Mtn is that level where you’ll be some girls’ type but others might not find you attractive.
If a there’s group of foids and some are arguing that you’re cute and a few others disagree then you’re probably a mtn overall.
If there’s a group of foids and they all agree that you’re attractive then you’re a chad.
if the same group and they all agree that you’re ugly then youre ltn or sub.

If you personally feel invisible then you’re probably ltn or sub.
Based on how I’m perceived by foids I’d say I’m high-mtn.

 

[silently_said]

mtn with height slays
htn with height is LTR material for most foids

 

[Olivecel]

This guy is considered a PSL God here (despite his squished face, bad averageness), and his face is basically perfectly developed, but has less appeal than alot of men who would get mogged next to him.

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He looks uncanny I feel like he’s alienmaxxed and thus more niched rather than averageness.
I agree I don’t think most foids lust over him instead they go for guys like Chico.