How is my maxilla flat?

[pavvlx123]

I have naturally wide palate, good nose projection, 10 teeth smile, ideal fwhr, but from the side my maxilla is still kind of not projected. Why and will this fix itself with puberty? Im 15 and 11 months, somewhat late bloomer. My skin is also thick and not so elastic like people say it should be and im kinda worried about it lmk how it is.

 

[anonimos]

delete your account and become a nt

 

[pavvlx123]

delete your account and become a nt

Why?

 

[Aroon]

Hold up lemme go into the future and check if it fixes itself with puberty brb.

 

[grav]

Why?

It's a compliment

 

[pavvlx123]

Hold up lemme go into the future and check if it fixes itself with puberty brb.

A lot of people say that your maxilla is done growing by the age of 14, on the other side people tell me otherwise

 

[Sujumh]

A lot of people say that your maxilla is done growing by the age of 14, on the other side people tell me otherwise

its not. post is misleading

 

[pavvlx123]

It's a compliment

Not good looking enough

 

[pavvlx123]

its not. post is misleading

So there is hope that it projects forward with ongoing puberty? Considering that im gonna be 16 soon

 

[grav]

Not good looking enough

Youre already above average

 

[HighIQ ubermensch]

10/10 on Aryan Test

 

[Aroon]

A lot of people say that your maxilla is done growing by the age of 14, on the other side people tell me otherwise

It's different for everyone.

 

[Grievous]

A lot of people say that your maxilla is done growing by the age of 14, on the other side people tell me otherwise

The only people who say that r retards he read 1 out of context paragraph and believe it

 

[pavvlx123]

The only people who say that r retards he read 1 out of context paragraph and believe it

What aboyt this study

 

[pavvlx123]

10/10 on Aryan Test

Im tall aswell i get tgat a lot

 

[pavvlx123]

Youre already above average

Thanks, not enough though

 

[Orc]

your entire face is downswung hence why it's not going forward, it's genetic and your parents probably have it too.

 

[Grievous]

What aboyt this study

This is what I mean 1 out of context graph or something
Anyways even that says Maxilla finishes developing by 16 not 14
Guessing ur not a girl

 

[Avagar Nexus]

I have naturally wide palate, good nose projection, 10 teeth smile, ideal fwhr, but from the side my maxilla is still kind of not projected. Why and will this fix itself with puberty? Im 15 and 11 months, somewhat late bloomer. My skin is also thick and not so elastic like people say it should be and im kinda worried about it lmk how it is.

What in the bs are you talkin bout stop it, your maxilla is very well projected

 

[pavvlx123]

What in the bs are you talkin bout stop it, your maxilla is very well projected

Its flat in the midface region, but my lip assessments and palate are fine somehow

 

[pavvlx123]

your entire face is downswung hence why it's not going forward, it's genetic and your parents probably have it too.

My mom is really forward grown and has elite support from the midface and zygomatics, im downgrown, but im asking about the projection not the direction ifywim

 

[Avagar Nexus]

Its flat in the midface region, but my lip assessments and palate are fine somehow

I kind of get what I mean, if kind of have the same thing, but slightly worse then you I think. But in males it’s more common for it to be a bit like that, it’s more laterally grown, unless you’re Jordan Barrett, but that’s a very modeling feature, and doesn’t matter all that much for appeal or irl, unless it’s a falio then it can maybe decrease looks by some amount depending on how severe it is

 

[ihateevb]

why not me

I have naturally wide palate, good projection, 10 teeth smile, ideal fwhr,

 

[Orc]

but im asking about the projection not the direction ifywim

it is projected, the projection is just downwards.

 

[LTNUser]

So it stops growing by 11-12 ?

 

[pavvlx123]

why not me

Wdym? You want a recessed maxilla?

 

[LTNUser]

it is projected, the projection is just downwards.

Yo Orc,at what does the maxilla stop growing?

 

[pavvlx123]

So it stops growing by 11-12 ?

I dont believe this but most looksmaxxers say so

 

[pavvlx123]

I guess thats better than a complete recession

it is projected, the projection is just downwards.

 

[LTNUser]

Holy hair !
Reminds me of @optimisticzoomer who is an aristocratic Chad

 

[ihateevb]

Wdym? You want a recessed maxilla?

Already am but your miles above me

 

[ObsessiveTendencies]

your entire face is downswung hence why it's not going forward, it's genetic and your parents probably have it too.

He still has good projection, the difference is he doesn't fraud, his picture is taken from a true side profile angle
Probably why he thinks it looks "flat"

 

[HighIQ ubermensch]

Browridge is dogshit & gonion angle too
together they make your face look like that

 

[Orc]

He still has good projection, the difference is he doesn't fraud, his picture is taken from a true side profile angle
Probably why he thinks it looks "flat"

and the projection is at an angle so it doesn't look 'forward'

but yes all models fraud their side profile and most of them are not very forward grown, it's mostly a meme.

 

[pavvlx123]

Wdym at the angle? Is this a right angle or not? I dont want people to think i fraud, and i seek help so if i took it at the wrong angle tell me

and the projection is at an angle so it doesn't look 'forward'

but yes all models fraud their side profile and most of them are not very forward grown, it's mostly a meme.

 

[LTNUser]

@optimisticzoomer browridge mogs this dude hard

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Browridge is dogshit & gonion angle too
together they make your face look like that

 

[pavvlx123]

I know about the gonial angle but could you elaborate about the browridge? Its not a road bump for now but that should fix itself with age, my father has a really projected orbitals and supraorbital ridge

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Browridge is dogshit & gonion angle too
together they make your face look like that

 

[pavvlx123]

Send his photo i cant find any

@optimisticzoomer browridge mogs this dude hard

 

[HighIQ ubermensch]

I know about the gonial angle but could you elaborate about the browridge? Its not a road bump for now but that should fix itself with age, my father has a really projected orbitals and supraorbital ridge

don't get what you're trying to say, but browridge won't grow past puberty, you're not getting any more growth,
just because your father has it, doesn't mean you will have it too.

 

[pavvlx123]

don't get what you're trying to say, but browridge won't grow past puberty, you're not getting any more growth,
just because your father has it, doesn't mean you will have it too.

Doesnt browridge grow until 19 on average or am i mixing something up?

 

[Sujumh]

Doesnt browridge grow until 19 on average or am i mixing something up?

dude forget this average age of whatever stops growing
its not like until ur 18 ur gucci and at 19 ur bones are like " yo we turned 19 its over gang shut the growth "

 

[Recession.]

dudes family mustve got fucked by the mongols 800 years ago

 

[pavvlx123]

dudes family mustve got fucked by the mongols 800 years ago

?

 

[pavvlx123]

dude forget this average age of whatever stops growing
its not like until ur 18 ur gucci and at 19 ur bones are like " yo we turned 19 its over gang shut the growth "

Yeah i understand but its the estimate

 

[Sujumh]

Yeah i understand but its the estimate

for crying out fucking loud dude i just said shut the fuck about it, its not like ur gonna change ur structure drastically other then surgeries or implants

 

[epsilonic]

I have naturally wide palate, good nose projection, 10 teeth smile, ideal fwhr, but from the side my maxilla is still kind of not projected. Why and will this fix itself with puberty? Im 15 and 11 months, somewhat late bloomer. My skin is also thick and not so elastic like people say it should be and im kinda worried about it lmk how it is.

insane bite wtf

 

[HighIQ ubermensch]

Doesnt browridge grow until 19 on average or am i mixing something up?

nope, the most noticeable change is between 11-14, little bit till 16, just like other bones
you'll not get much past 15
It's been a while since I was deep into this ratio analysis shit, but I think I get what's wrong with your face.

Your under-eye fat/projection isn't superb, like you said.
here's a fat grafting change, Infra orbital implant would do the same
I don't recommend it tho, as your case isn't super bad, it just could provide some structure, but it ain't the main issue.

What makes it look worse is your terrible browridge in combination with Ramus/Gonion angle.
Your forehead doesn't provide that strong structure & you don't have a good jaw angle & growth to compensate for that either.
Neither your Ramus/jaw nor your forehead provide your side profile that angular strength.
like if you don't have a strong ramus & jaw projection, providing sharp angularity in the lower side.
& not a good brow/nose angularity on the top side. I think those 2 provide structure to the side profile.

Strong Forehead but low strength in jaw

Both Ramus/Jaw & Forehead strong

weaker Browridge but stronger Jaw

 

[pavvlx123]

I was thinking about gettinf the fat graft because my undereys are blue because of lack of fat. My ramus grew moderately during this year and i kinda see a lot of changes just from getting leaner in terms of angularity and visibility, my gonial angle is still kinda terrible tho. But i dont see how my browridge is horrible, its somewhat projected, my only failo there is that my forehead is round because of too much frontal bone development, enlighten me if im wrong.

nope, the most noticeable change is between 11-14, little bit till 16, just like other bones
you'll not get much past 15
It's been a while since I was deep into this ratio analysis shit, but I think I get what's wrong with your face.

Your under-eye fat/projection isn't superb, like you said.
here's a fat grafting change, Infra orbital implant would do the same
I don't recommend it tho, as your case isn't super bad, it just could provide some structure, but it ain't the main issue.
View attachment 4382413

What makes it look worse is your terrible browridge in combination with Ramus/Gonion angle.
Your forehead doesn't provide that strong structure & you don't have a good jaw angle & growth to compensate for that either.
Neither your Ramus/jaw nor your forehead provide your side profile that angular strength.
like if you don't have a strong ramus & jaw projection, providing sharp angularity in the lower side.
& not a good brow/nose angularity on the top side. I think those 2 provide structure to the side profile.

Strong Forehead but low strength in jaw
View attachment 4382471

Both Ramus/Jaw & Forehead strong
View attachment 4382490

weaker Browridge but stronger Jaw
View attachment 4382481

 

[pavvlx123]

nope, the most noticeable change is between 11-14, little bit till 16, just like other bones
you'll not get much past 15
It's been a while since I was deep into this ratio analysis shit, but I think I get what's wrong with your face.

Your under-eye fat/projection isn't superb, like you said.
here's a fat grafting change, Infra orbital implant would do the same
I don't recommend it tho, as your case isn't super bad, it just could provide some structure, but it ain't the main issue.
View attachment 4382413

What makes it look worse is your terrible browridge in combination with Ramus/Gonion angle.
Your forehead doesn't provide that strong structure & you don't have a good jaw angle & growth to compensate for that either.
Neither your Ramus/jaw nor your forehead provide your side profile that angular strength.
like if you don't have a strong ramus & jaw projection, providing sharp angularity in the lower side.
& not a good brow/nose angularity on the top side. I think those 2 provide structure to the side profile.

Strong Forehead but low strength in jaw
View attachment 4382471

Both Ramus/Jaw & Forehead strong
View attachment 4382490

weaker Browridge but stronger Jaw
View attachment 4382481

I look really weird on the frontal cuz of angle and hair, but idc. I thjnk you can see some kind of robustness and angularity. I started looking like these only recently after trainings.

 

[pavvlx123]

nope, the most noticeable change is between 11-14, little bit till 16, just like other bones
you'll not get much past 15
It's been a while since I was deep into this ratio analysis shit, but I think I get what's wrong with your face.

Your under-eye fat/projection isn't superb, like you said.
here's a fat grafting change, Infra orbital implant would do the same
I don't recommend it tho, as your case isn't super bad, it just could provide some structure, but it ain't the main issue.
View attachment 4382413

What makes it look worse is your terrible browridge in combination with Ramus/Gonion angle.
Your forehead doesn't provide that strong structure & you don't have a good jaw angle & growth to compensate for that either.
Neither your Ramus/jaw nor your forehead provide your side profile that angular strength.
like if you don't have a strong ramus & jaw projection, providing sharp angularity in the lower side.
& not a good brow/nose angularity on the top side. I think those 2 provide structure to the side profile.

Strong Forehead but low strength in jaw
View attachment 4382471

Both Ramus/Jaw & Forehead strong
View attachment 4382490

weaker Browridge but stronger Jaw
View attachment 4382481

I also wanted to ask what surgeries would you recommend for me to get when i grow up?