How long do you think until our population starts going down drastically?

[slayer69]

Inb4 people say something, it is inevitable btw

Incoming levels of poverty from lack of jobs
Lack of jobs from Automation due to AI and overcompetition
Overcompetition amog guys for girls etc
Energy prices shooting up etc Etc

I could name a lot of things but that’s not the point of this thread.

So when do you think the world population will reduce to 2 billion or something? What point in time will that happen

 

[aspiringexcel]

It will probably reduce to around 4.5 billion

 

[slayer69]

It will probably reduce to around 4.5 billion

By what time do you think we will reduce to 4.5 billion?

 

[thickdickdaddy27]

Africa and india has entered the chat

 

[Deleted member 2100]

We will be entering the mouse utopia experiment.

 

[slayer69]

We will be entering the mouse utopia experiment.

We already have
also mirin how you know behavioral sink

 

[Deleted member 2100]

We already have
also mirin how you know behavioral sink

It’s interesting because I found out about it right before COVID-19 and the pandemic. It was like a foreshadowing for the future.

 

[Jhon Smith]

Only in the west. In other shithole countries everybody is having kids like crazy

 

[slayer69]

It’s interesting because I found out about it right before COVID-19 and the pandemic. It was like a foreshadowing for the future.

Yeah and the ones that cannot afford food and quality life will just die out

 

[slayer69]

Only in the west. In other shithole countries everybody is having kids like crazy

It’s just a cycle, everyone will die out of poverty

 

[Deleted member 22124]

When I stop fucking and impregnating women.

 

[Jhon Smith]

It’s just a cycle, everyone will die out of poverty

Not really. What’s happening is people with no resources in poor countries immigrate to the west and it’s a never ending cycle while people in the west are having less kids cause of hypergamy and high standards of foids

 

[slayer69]

Not really. What’s happening is people with no resources in poor countries immigrate to the west and it’s a never ending cycle while people in the west are having less kids cause of hypergamy and high standards of foids

Stop being silly.

you literally said it’s people in the west who are dying, so if these people immigrate to the west( they die too.

And the reason people in the west are having less kids is because of behavioral sink. Resources and reproduction is ensured so they are partaking in degeneracy. It’s literally nature’s way of controlling population

 

[Jhon Smith]

Stop being silly.

you literally said it’s people in the west who are dying, so if these people immigrate to the west( they die too.

And the reason people in the west are having less kids is because of behavioral sink. Resources and reproduction is ensured so they are partaking in degeneracy. It’s literally nature’s way of controlling population

Yeah resources and high cost of living but immigrants will replace people in the west cause the population decline is going down fast in the west compared to other countries

 

[slayer69]

Yeah resources and high cost of living but immigrants will replace people in the west cause the population decline is going down fast in the west compared to other countries

I’m gonna stop talking to you here.
You clearly understand nothing and you have a victim complex for no reason.

 

[incel194012940]

there won’t be malthus event unless some random X factor black swan catastrophe happen

food production is too efficient, it’s impossible to starve

under current trends developing nations will peak and begin to reduce in same way devloped nations have done

 

[robtical]

It already is. Look at median ages.

 

[slayer69]

there won’t be malthus event unless some random X factor black swan catastrophe happen

food production is too efficient, it’s impossible to starve

under current trends developing nations will peak and begin to reduce in same way devloped nations have done

We have already peaked

When Food Production is too efficient humans start to degenerate and deviate from traditional behavior. This is called behavioral sink and it’s true for every animal including humans.

You clearly don’t know this topic well, it’s alright. Time to Educate yourself now

 

[slayer69]

It already is. Look at median ages.

Yeah but the question is what point in time will we hit 2 billion population?
What’s the rate of change of decrease in population?

 

[robtical]

Yeah but the question is what point in time will we hit 2 billion population?
What’s the rate of change of decrease in population?

For entire world, will take time. Prob not even in our lifetime. Considering how some countries are trying to combat against it.

 

[Deleted member 21700]

that's the stage post the demography in the ambit of the economy being primarily middle income or above. Globally, most of the population still resides in the third world so it will take about a century unless, of course, there is a major black swan event like a nuclear world war or something.

 

[Deleted member 21700]

We have already peaked

When Food Production is too efficient humans start to degenerate and deviate from traditional behavior. This is called behavioral sink and it’s true for every animal including humans.

You clearly don’t know this topic well, it’s alright. Time to Educate yourself now

But that is under the condition of overcrowding, our spaces are not confined or are we ever saturating in population density however (at least for a millennia), we are improving our efficiency in using up spaces that were inconceivable before as the population explodes.

 

[Deleted member 21700]

also not sure too what extent behavior in rats can be directly extrapolated to humans, they are similar to us physiologically which is why they are the perfect choice for scaling up medical experiments but they do not resemble us sociologically or cognitively

 

[Deleted member 21700]

Actually rising levels of poverty aggravate the situation and further lead to the vicious cycle of overpopulation, India is one of the best cases for it. Now, you and me will tend to think rationally because we have an education in social sciences that looks at the bigger picture, but once you actually talk to someone at the grassroot, a poverty stricken labourer for instance, their attitude is more the kids, higher the sources of income in the family, they are sometimes supported by the local "gunda" politicians as well to raise the numbers in a community for more clout.

On the other points, fact is we tend to overestimate what will happen in the long term and underestimate the short term (there was a concept on this, I can't recall the term for right now). There were actually energy shortages even in the 70s which lead to an exponential explosion in price rise but we just improved the efficiency of our internal combustion engines back then to alleviate the problem.

Automation of jobs also looks at merely a few sectors which, while are growing, will take decades to be the primary source of employment in most of the world and for their adoption to be mainstream. And that too is a double edged sword, it opens up a lot of opportunities as well, and it might be hard to fathom but not just in the specialized high value skills (for instance, the field of supply chain planning, it needs a lot more configurators and services compared to before and increasing demands in the sector). Reaching the point of "technological singularity" too is a pipe dream several years away.

 

[incel194012940]

We have already peaked

When Food Production is too efficient humans start to degenerate and deviate from traditional behavior. This is called behavioral sink and it’s true for every animal including humans.

You clearly don’t know this topic well, it’s alright. Time to Educate yourself now

food production became “too efficient” 100+ yrs ago

it’s probably 50x as efficient as it needs to be, 1/2 or more food is wasted, the food that is consumed is made thru complex processes that destroy 95%+ of calories as heat (factory farming ect)

food as a selection factor probably irrelevant since 2000+ yrs unless you count famine which selects for socioeconomic

every single non tribe culture have a parasite beggar class that doesn’t seem to starve, it’s part of religion to give alms

 

[Soychadcell]

It will probably reduce to around 4.5 billion

Hopefully, can't stand half of all ppl anyways