How long to return to baseline levels after stopping trt without pct

[GatoradeTRZ8]

Been on about 170 mg for 5 months, decided not worth it as its a not high enough boost over my natty levels and blasting would be bad cause my bone age is 16.5

Overall a very dumb decision

I was taking aromasin too and hgh

Now stopped everything

Please only answers from roidheads

And should i just quit taking test or taper down then quit? Or continue trt till old enough to blast

 

[GatoradeTRZ8]

You're both low IQ because you're both wrong at different things.
Gear won't increase/alter facial development beyond what you are already genetically predetermined, to any noticeable extent. OP is right in that regard.
But don't know where the fuck the consensus that androgens (???) affecting epiphyseal plate closure, came from. Only way I could interpret that is certain orals (AAS) are going to aromatise into E2 which is responsible for growth plate closure.

I mean taking anavar is proven to speed up growth plate closure and leading to a shorter final adult height, anavar doesnt increase e2 so its not only e2 that plays a part

In studies kids took a low dose of anavar without test as far as i know and it sped up growth velocity at the cost of faster growth plate closure

I heard that androgens also play a part in speeding up growth plate closure even though the main driver is e2. But i dont think only e2 is what closes them as anavar wouldnt speed up the closure then. But i agree e2 is the main driver and plays the biggest part of closing growth plates.



Also in my case do you think I should just continue test at like 200mg so its at least worth it? I mean i already fucked up my natty production
Or should I go with a safe pct protocol/or cold turkey and only do pct if recovery takes too long

Its been a week since my last injection, i stopped aromasin too

 

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I mean taking anavar is proven to speed up growth plate closure and leading to a shorter final adult height, anavar doesnt increase e2 so its not only e2 that plays a part

In studies kids took a low dose of anavar without test as far as i know and it sped up growth velocity at the cost of faster growth plate closure

I heard that androgens also play a part in speeding up growth plate closure even though the main driver is e2. But i dont think only e2 is what closes them as anavar wouldnt speed up the closure then. But i agree e2 is the main driver and plays the biggest part of closing growth plates.

I don’t care to research why you’re wrong but you are.

Also in my case do you think I should just continue test at like 200mg so its at least worth it? I mean i already fucked up my natty production
Or should I go with a safe pct protocol/or cold turkey and only do pct if recovery takes too long

Its been a week since my last injection, i stopped aromasin too

I fucking told you what I’d do cunt.
Stop asking the same question that I’ve answered already.

 

[genetically fucked]

I would stay on high trt tho if I didnt want to blast. Like 250-375

calling 375 trt

 

[GigaAryenMaxxer]

calling 375 trt

well it’s low enough so that you can run it for a very long time

 

[GatoradeTRZ8]

I don’t care to research why you’re wrong but you are.

The combined effect of growth hormone and oxandrolone in patients with growth hormone deficiency - PubMed

Twenty patients with growth hormone deficiency ranging in age from 5 5/12 to 15 8/12 years were treated for 12 months with a combination of human growth hormone and oxandrolone, followed by a period of six months off both medications. Eight of the patients received the combined therapy during...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I fucking told you what I’d do cunt.
Stop asking the same question that I’ve answered already.

nigga i know you said do a proper pct

But i mean i am a retard who shut himself down already, so would it make more sense to just continue the ride with blast and cruises (high test, hgh, ai, maybe anavar later on) or still do a pct/stop cold turkey?

Im 18, bone age 16.5

 

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The combined effect of growth hormone and oxandrolone in patients with growth hormone deficiency - PubMed

Twenty patients with growth hormone deficiency ranging in age from 5 5/12 to 15 8/12 years were treated for 12 months with a combination of human growth hormone and oxandrolone, followed by a period of six months off both medications. Eight of the patients received the combined therapy during...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Good looks, I would assume it is from the impact on osteoblasts rather than the presence of androgens specifically, but you seem to be right from the surface-level research I did.
Though you need to consider the fact that this study involves the usage of HGH and anavar in conjunction, it's hard to isolate the impacts of anavar solely. But isolating the impact is irrelevant when you are using HGH anyway, so there's that.

nigga i know you said do a proper pct

But i mean i am a retard who shut himself down already, so would it make more sense to just continue the ride with blast and cruises (high test, hgh, ai, maybe anavar later on) or still do a pct/stop cold turkey?

Im 18, bone age 16.5

You didn't permanently shut yourself down. I would not have recommended you do hop off and run a PCT if that was the case.
People can blast and cruise for a decade and still be able to restore endogenous production, you were on shit for 5 months at peak age. Stop worrying.

I told you what to do. I considered your circumstances and I gave you an appropriate way to go about things. Stop saying this shit like I don't already know the context of your question, which you gave me in the initial statement and any subsequent replies prior to this one.

You will be fine even without PCT. But you are just going to prolong suppression more than necessary if you don't go about a PCT.
So stay on the same dose of testosterone, like I told you in my FIRST replies, then run HCG and that same dose, hop off, and run PCT once you get it.

 

[GatoradeTRZ8]

You didn't permanently shut yourself down. I would not have recommended you do hop off and run a PCT if that was the case.
People can blast and cruise for a decade and still be able to restore endogenous production, you were on shit for 5 months at peak age. Stop worrying.

I told you what to do. I considered your circumstances and I gave you an appropriate way to go about things. Stop saying this shit like I don't already know the context of your question, which you gave me in the initial statement and any subsequent replies prior to this one.

You will be fine even without PCT. But you are just going to prolong suppression more than necessary if you don't go about a PCT.
So stay on the same dose of testosterone, like I told you in my FIRST replies, then run HCG and that same dose, hop off, and run PCT once you get it.

Alright, thanks a lot. Sorry for keep repeating the same shit, I kinda had fomo of not using roids, but i assume the extra anabolism I get from them will not lead to a noticeably bigger height gain than just hgh + ai only. Although I must say I noticed some changes on cheekbone width after starting test, but no idea whether it was natural or not. And im worried that exogenous test at a young age, even with estrogen management through ai, will mess up brain or body developement, so better to just stay on hgh and maybe ai I guess.