How many guys do you have to compete with on the average woman not on OLD?

[MagaPutinism]

Is it 5 is it 20?

 

[Deleted member 41006]

I like gilfs exclusively tbh

 

[Deleted member 27066]

Is it 5 is it 20?

500 at least

 

[Gonthar]

Even before OLD became popular, girls were approached left and right every single day, they had dozens of simps and orbiters in their phones list, who would send them messages and invitations to go out on dates, etc.

 

[MagaPutinism]

Even before OLD became popular, girls were approached left and right every single day, they had dozens of simps and orbiters in their phones list, who would send them messages and invitations to go out on dates, etc.

Can you estimate how many?
And does the boring unattractive unpppular women also get orbiters?

 

[Nick.Harte]

80+

 

[MagaPutinism]

500 at least

80+

Even before OLD became popular, girls were approached left and right every single day, they had dozens of simps and orbiters in their phones list, who would send them messages and invitations to go out on dates, etc.

What hope do i have exactly, Even if i'm in amazing shape statistically there will still be guys in shape in thier orbit and i'm nuerodivergent and anti-social

 

[Matthias8272]

Social media is also a factor, unless you're counting it as a dating app

 

[Nick.Harte]

What hope do i have exactly, Even if i'm in amazing shape statistically there will still be guys in shape in thier orbit and i'm nuerodivergent and anti-social

0. MTN and 6’0-6’1 minimum to stand a chance.

 

[LooksOrDeath]

A Few Good Men

 

[LooksOrDeath]

0. MTN and 6’0-6’1 minimum to stand a chance.

or HTN 5'8-5'9
you'll still struggle, both are the bare minimum

 

[Deleted member 22918]

In any decently sized city up to 700

 

[Nick.Harte]

or HTN 5'8-5'9
you'll still struggle, both are the bare minimum

I would say 5’11 is the bare minimum for HTN because foids are usually 5’9

 

[LooksOrDeath]

I would say 5’11 is the bare minimum for HTN

5'11 HTN >> 6'1 MTN
just jfl if you think theyre equal Nick

because foids are usually 5’9

nah
5'5-5'6 on average, tallest ive seen was 6'2 with heels
idk where tf you live

 

[Nick.Harte]

5'11 HTN >> 6'1 MTN

Yes. I never said no. Below 5’11, not even a HTN can save you

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Yes. I never said no. Below 5’11, not even a HTN can save you

height is overrated, average height is not gonna make you incel with an htn fac, far from it
unless you think avg is 6'2 jfl

 

[Gonthar]

Can you estimate how many?
And does the boring unattractive unpppular women also get orbiters?

It varies from girl to girl, even those with boyfriends still had a few "backups" - some guys they've chatted with and occasionally went out, so in case they broke up with their boyfriend, they immediately had another one ready to take their place.
And yes, even the unattractive girls had boyfriends, orbiters, or friends with benefits - their options compared to the average guy were huge.

What hope do i have exactly, Even if i'm in amazing shape statistically there will still be guys in shape in thier orbit and i'm nuerodivergent and anti-social

Well, you should learn game, improve your social skills, go out, interact with people, approach and orbit tons of girls and maybe you'll get lucky with one, it's a numbers game.

 

[Nick.Harte]

average height is not gonna make you incel with an htn

5’8-5’9 is below average

 

[Deleted member 55437]

In Israel which is hypergamy central around 200 men for every woman

 

[Nick.Harte]

avg is 6'2 jfl

Avg is 6’0-6’1

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Avg is 6’0-6’1

5'10-5'11 is average

5’8-5’9 is below average

and a HTN face makes up for it. 5'8 HTN = 6'1 MTN

 

[Nick.Harte]

and a HTN face makes up for it. 5'8 HTN

At that height, you need to be Chadlite to make up for it. HTN with a dwarf height will look comical.

 

[Nick.Harte]

5'10-5'11 is average

Slightly below average.

 

[LooksOrDeath]

At that height, you need to be Chadlite to make up for it. HTN with a dwarf height will look comical.

muh dwarf height
go outside
inb4 i go outside everyday

 

[Nick.Harte]

muh dwarf height
go outside
inb4 i go outside everyday

I’m 5’10 and I get traumatised when I go outside

 

[Nick.Harte]

This forum is gaslighting.org They tell you that you aren’t subhuman and then you get traumatised when you leave the basement

 

[LooksOrDeath]

I’m 5’10 and I get traumatised when I go outside

I'm 5'11 and feel alright
some guys taller, some more shorter. The taller ones are usually worse looking and framelets.

 

[Nick.Harte]

I'm 5'11 and feel alright

Good for you lucky ass nigga.

 

[MagaPutinism]

I'm 5'11 and feel alright
some guys taller, some more shorter. The taller ones are usually worse looking and framelets.

I'm 5' 10" and i live in asia, i'm taller than most guys it feels awesome

 

[Nick.Harte]

The taller ones are usually pretty boys with blonde hairs, blue eyes and deep voices

 

[innervoid765]

Is it 5 is it 20?

like hundereds, just look at the tinder experimetns where people larp as foids, they getl iterally hundereds of matches

 

[MagaPutinism]

like hundereds, just look at the tinder experimetns where people larp as foids, they getl iterally hundereds of matches

I said outside of OLD,
Not that hard to read

 

[LooksOrDeath]

I'm 5' 10" and i live in asia, i'm taller than most guys it feels awesome

we should go to manila one day, dragging @Nick.Harte as well
We would be the 3 Mid Titans

 

[LooksOrDeath]

@Nick.Harte
prettyboys are usually 5'9-6'0 here, only know a couple who are 6'1

 

[LooksOrDeath]

A Few Good Men

you aren't competing with 100 normies, only a few tall htns and chadlites

 

[innervoid765]

I said outside of OLD,
Not that hard to read

I thoought said on OLD

 

[Nick.Harte]

we should go to manila one day, dragging @Nick.Harte as well
We would be the 3 Mid Titans

Yeah. I would feel like a human being for at least once in my life

 

[Nick.Harte]

@Nick.Harte
prettyboys are usually 5'9-6'0 here, only know a couple who are 6'1

I see 6’3 mogger guys

 

[innervoid765]

Is it 5 is it 20?

5-10

 

[LooksOrDeath]

I see 6’3 mogger guys

in my case theyre just lanklets with long faces
I know one 6'5 guy with a good face and wide frame, he is a slayer, the other tall guys just have their height going for them

 

[MagaPutinism]

I thoought said on OLD

"not on OLD"

 

[Nick.Harte]

the other tall guys just have their height going for them

Still brutal

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Yeah. I would feel like a human being for at least once in my life

If the only way you'd feel like a human is by being 5 inches taller than most guys then you're probably just average and insecure

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Still brutal

Depends
face > height > frame
i have face and frame

 

[Nick.Harte]

Depends
face > height > frame
i have face and frame

Yeah but ugly tallfags get the hottest bitches from what I’ve seen IRL. Man I want to avoid these people and it seems like they enjoy being around deformed human beings like me. I wish somebody goes ER on them and their families

 

[Nick.Harte]

@mizrahi_hater bro why u living in Asia btw?

 

[MagaPutinism]

@mizrahi_hater bro why u living in Asia btw?

I was born there

 

[Nick.Harte]

I was born there

Thought you were American

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Yeah but ugly tallfags get the hottest bitches from what I’ve seen IRL.

Fair, some areas are like that

Man I want to avoid these people and it seems like they enjoy being around deformed human beings like me. I wish somebody goes ER on them and their families

wear lifts to 6'0, and maybe consider leg lengthening
Looksmax face as well, water
and fuck normies

 

[Nick.Harte]

Fair, some areas are like that

wear lifts to 6'0, and maybe consider leg lengthening
Looksmax face as well, water
and fuck normies

I wish I could but my face is dogshit. Complete dogshit. I’m the ugliest guy around and rarely leave my basement.