How much bideltoid can gymcelling add?

[SchrodingersDick]

I’m 5’9”, around 155lbs, pretty lean, with 21” bideltoid.. i want to bulk to something like 200lbs.. mostly muscle and some fat. I wanna do it natty over the course of like 1-2 years. Will my bideltoid increase noticeably? I’d like to be 24” ideally. Is 1.5” on each side possible natty? I don’t need to be lean, I just want to be big but still keep a good shoulder to hip ratio.

Any gymcels here that have measured their before and after?

 

[Deleted member 281]

Varies from person to person.

 

[extreme-overthinker]

Sounds unlikely, but I hope that's possible. 21" bideltoid is already very good. Try having 17 or 18 inches

 

[SchrodingersDick]

Sounds unlikely, but I hope that's possible. 21" bideltoid is already very good. Try having 17 or 18 inches

At 5’9”, there’s not much I can do other than framemaxxing and looking hard to kill.. I have no other way of competing with 6’+ guys. I really need to max my bideltoid and neck as much as possible.. only way

 

[jefferson]

That should be possible if you're starting from scratch when it comes to muscles.

 

[extreme-overthinker]

At 5’9”, there’s not much I can do other than framemaxxing and looking hard to kill.. I have no other way of competing with 6’+ guys. I really need to max my bideltoid and neck as much as possible.. only way

6'0+ with no frame looks way worse than a big framed manlet, but that's not how females think. To them height is the strongest signaller. So there's no way around that

 

[SchrodingersDick]

6'0+ with no frame looks way worse than a big framed manlet, but that's not how females think. To them height is the strongest signaller. So there's no way around that

I know .. it sucks. But at least I’d be a big framed manlet and not a small framed manlet. With sufficient size I can dominate 6’ guys. That by itself would be enough for my self esteem.

Plus I have high fwhr and a broad skull to add to the mogging factor..

I’m Norwood 3 manlet.. I gotta max everything I can.

That should be possible if you're starting from scratch when it comes to muscles.

I naturally have defined muscles. But I don’t lift at all.

 

[extreme-overthinker]

I know .. it sucks. But at least I’d be a big framed manlet and not a small framed manlet. With sufficient size I can dominate 6’ guys. That by itself would be enough for my self esteem.

Plus I have high fwhr and a broad skull to add to the mogging factor..

I’m Norwood 3 manlet.. I gotta max everything I can.

If you were in the 5'10-5'11 range liftmaxxing would be worth it, but at 5'9 it's just not tbh. (((gymcel))) hard, grow a beard, and run bald manlet ogre game.

 

[SchrodingersDick]

If you were in the 5'10-5'11 liftmaxxing would be worth it, but at 5'9 it's just not tbh. (((gymcel))) hard, grow a beard, and run bald manlet ogre game.

I already have a beard and I already wear lifts. With shoes on, I’m 5’10.5”.. it’s ok here tbh. I’d still suck a dick to be 6’5” but w/e.. can’t do much more about height short of LL. I can’t stay bald under any circumstances. I have the most god awful skull. Tbh I look better with short hair than full on bald... seriously .. baldING looks better than bald on me and I still look like garbage.. that’s how fucked I am lmao. I’m approaching Norwood 4.. I need a HT or hair cloning ASAP.

Do u think it’s possible to get to 24” bideltoid with a 45lb weight gain from gymcelling?ii

 

[extreme-overthinker]

I already have a beard and I already wear lifts. With shoes on, I’m 5’10.5”.. it’s ok here tbh. I’d still suck a dick to be 6’5” but w/e.. can’t do much more about height short of LL. I can’t stay bald under any circumstances. I have the most god awful skull. Tbh I look better with short hair than full on bald... seriously .. baldING looks better than bald on me and I still look like garbage.. that’s how fucked I am lmao. I’m approaching Norwood 4.. I need a HT or hair cloning ASAP.

Do u think it’s possible to get to 24” bideltoid with a 45lb weight gain from gymcelling?ii

I stopped gymcelling so you should probably ask someone else

 

[Zesto]

Bi-deltoid is cope, all you need is good clavicle exposure.

It's a major turn on for women.

 

[SchrodingersDick]

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Bi-deltoid is cope, all you need is good clavicle exposure.

It's a major turn on for women.

Wtf is clavicle exposure? Being boney?

 

[Deleted member 56]

I’m 5’9”, around 155lbs, pretty lean, with 21” bideltoid.. i want to bulk to something like 200lbs.. mostly muscle and some fat. I wanna do it natty over the course of like 1-2 years. Will my bideltoid increase noticeably? I’d like to be 24” ideally. Is 1.5” on each side possible natty? I don’t need to be lean, I just want to be big but still keep a good shoulder to hip ratio.

Any gymcels here that have measured their before and after?

You'll probably get about an inch or so maybe more. It depends on

1) Natty or not
2) shoulder genetics
3) androgen receptors in delts

 

[Zesto]

Wtf is clavicle exposure? Being boney?

Clavicle is chest bone (like diagonal bone right under your shoulders).

Having one pronounced is little known major turn on for girls.

It is also a feature many women wish they had for themselves.

Though you may be confused because these are Asian standards of beauty.

In Asia women (and even men) like to show off their clavicles by showing how many coins they can fit.

I myself have very pronounced clavicle, which only solidifies my status as J-Pop boy.

 

[dontgoLAXb4UMAXx]

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Clavicle is chest bone (like diagonal bone right under your shoulders).

Having one pronounced is little known major turn on for girls.

It is also a feature many women wish they had for themselves.

Though you may be confused because these are Asian standards of beauty.

In Asia women (and even men) like to show off their clavicles by showing how many coins they can fit.

I myself have very pronounced clavicle, which only solidifies my status as J-Pop boy.

you gonna spread your soy chink cope anymore. or atleast stop posting some fucking gay manga every time lol

 

[Zesto]

you gonna spread your soy chink cope anymore. or atleast stop posting some fucking gay manga every time lol

I was waiting for someone to notice that.

I do again after dinner and another Japanese lesson.

 

[itsOVER]

If you're 200lbs at 5ft 9 your major problem aint your bideltoid boyo, it's that you'll be a fat fuck with a fat face.

 

[Veganist]

sounds like larp tbh? 5'9 is pretty short and 21'' bideltoid is very large even for tall people. Make sure to measure correctly, if you had 21 inch bideltoid width at this manlet height you'd mog the wall

 

[future chadlite]

sounds like larp tbh? 5'9 is pretty short and 21'' bideltoid is very large even for tall people. Make sure to measure correctly, if you had 21 inch bideltoid width at this manlet height you'd mog the wall

there's a specific mesomorph manlet build that comes with very wide shoulders (conor mcgregor, canelo alvarez many other manlet fighters have this build) , i have a similar build to OP but only 20" and I still have a lot of muscle to pack on the shoulders

 

[Veganist]

there's a specific mesomorph manlet build that comes with very wide shoulders (conor mcgregor, canelo alvarez many other manlet fighters have this build) , i have a similar build to OP but only 20" and I still have a lot of muscle to pack on the shoulders

im almost 6'1'' and around 20'' by now, but I look pretty wide already.

if op Is that short with that width he'd look like an airplane

 

[future chadlite]

im almost 6'1'' and around 20'' by now, but I look pretty wide already.

if op Is that short with that width he'd look like an airplane

i'm 5'10 and have a 20" bideltoid, i look like a block though, not aesthetic but i framemog the average population by a wide margin
plus aesthetics dont matter when it comes to dominating other males (maybe im just coping)

 

[Veganist]

i'm 5'10 and have a 20" bideltoid, i look like a block though, not aesthetic but i framemog the average population by a wide margin
plus aesthetics dont matter when it comes to dominating other males (maybe im just coping)

you don't dominate shit if your face is ugly. Even if you get 24'' bideltoid width like op wants
if you put the mr Olympia athletes next to a tall good looking guy they look like pathetic gymcels.

 

[itsOVER]

You all need to be focused on the part of the ops plan where he says he wants to get to 200 FUCKING POUNDS as a 5ft 9 natty.

OP, even guys 6ft+ don't get to 200lbs lean very often. Sure, anyone can reach 200lbs, but unless they're very tall, roided, have been gymcelling for 4+ years or are a genetic elite, it's because they're fat as fuck.

 

[future chadlite]

you don't dominate shit if your face is ugly. Even if you get 24'' bideltoid width like op wants
if you put the mr Olympia athletes next to a tall good looking guy they look like pathetic gymcels.

ok mr smart ass, we're talking about the intimidation factor when it comes to commanding respect not how pretty your face is

You all need to be focused on the part of the ops plan where he says he wants to get to 200 FUCKING POUNDS as a 5ft 9 natty.

OP, even guys 6ft+ don't get to 200lbs lean very often. Sure, anyone can reach 200lbs, but unless they're very tall, roided, have been gymcelling for 4+ years or are a genetic elite, it's because they're fat as fuck.

this is what 5'9 200lbs looks like lol, unless OP wants to look like this then he's retarded, the best body you can achieve at that height is between 160-168 lean not fat

 

[Veganist]

ok mr smart ass, we're talking about the intimidation factor when it comes to commanding respect not how pretty your face is

View attachment 5110 this is what 5'9 200lbs looks like lol, unless OP wants to look like this then he's retarded, the best body you can achieve at that height is between 160-168 lean not fat

 

[VST]

I'm like 100% sure most people on here measure their bideltoid wrong. With a 21" bideltoid at 5'9" you'd have orb's frame, any larger and you'll have comical proportions. But because OP is asking such questions I assume he is nowhere near orb's frame and thus must have a bideltoid lower than 21" maybe even lower than 20".

 

[future chadlite]

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lol, like the average guy outside has a face like ramirez, and the average guy looks like the guy on the right, pathetic incel ideology

 

[itsOVER]

I'm like 100% sure most people on here measure their bideltoid wrong. With a 21" bideltoid at 5'9" you'd have orb's frame, any larger and you'll have comical proportions. But because OP is asking such questions I assume he is nowhere near orb's frame and thus must have a bideltoid lower than 21" maybe even lower than 20".

Yeah, for some reason everyone on the internet seems to have 20 inches+ when the average is 18.5. Same thing happened in a thread on the misc, everyone claiming 22-24 inches, JFL.

Either incorrect measurements or e-stats.

 

[Veganist]

lol, like the average guy outside has a face like ramirez, and the average guy looks like the guy on the right, pathetic incel ideology

Intimidation factor = how low trust your face is.
you just proved my point

 

[future chadlite]

Intimidation factor = how low trust your face is.
you just proved my point

you think i'd be intimidated by a skinny 5'5 guy with a low trust face more than I'd be intimidated by a 6'6 very high trust face?
i didnd't prove shit lol, richard ramirez has an incredibly intimidating face but if he was a 5'5 mexican i wouldnt give a shit about his face, body plays a part in this too mr smart ass

 

[Veganist]

you think i'd be intimidated by a skinny 5'5 guy with a low trust face more than I'd be intimidated by a 6'6 very high trust face?
i didnd't prove shit lol, richard ramirez has an incredibly intimidating face but if he was a 5'5 mexican i wouldnt give a shit about his face, body plays a part in this too mr smart ass

face matters the most but when you blow this out of proportions and give him a dwarf height then there's no point arguing over this. Idk why u get so mad and call me names probably never argued in your life before?

 

[future chadlite]

face matters the most but when you blow this out of proportions and give him a dwarf height then there's no point arguing over this. Idk why u get so mad and call me names probably never argued in your life before?

sorry if i called you names, its just how the internet works mate, don't get offended.
Body matters asmuch as your face when it comes to intimidation factor, a 5'10 wide framed block is always gonna be more intimidating than a 6' skinny lanklet to the average normie (obviously there's exceptions to the rules) but body matters just asmuch as face when it comes to intimidation factor

 

[SchrodingersDick]

I'm like 100% sure most people on here measure their bideltoid wrong. With a 21" bideltoid at 5'9" you'd have orb's frame, any larger and you'll have comical proportions. But because OP is asking such questions I assume he is nowhere near orb's frame and thus must have a bideltoid lower than 21" maybe even lower than 20".

21” on the dot. I asked someone to measure me against the wall.. from the furthest point between the shoulders. it doesn’t even look that wide tbh cause my Zygos are like 6.2” and my skull is like 6’5” wide.. not like I look like a pinhead with massive shoulders..

Besides I wear lifts so let’s just say I’m 5’10” lol