how much can someone ascend from these softmaxes

[bhsoda_destroyer]

1) gymmaxed, low body fat with upper body muscles
2) great skin quality and misc
3) Orthodontics
4) getting a better hair style and beard, having nice fashion

i think most of it is just cope

 

[Organelle]

1) gymmaxed, low body fat with upper body muscles
2) great skin quality and misc
3) Orthodontics
4) getting a better hair style and beard, having nice fashion

i think most of it is just cope

85% of ascending is this (unless you have TERRIBLE features that need surgery)

 

[bhsoda_destroyer]

85% of ascending is this

how much can softmaxing ascend someone?

 

[iamnotgrayipromise]

85% of ascending is this (unless you have TERRIBLE features that need surgery)

what formula did you use einstein

 

[stev]

1) gymmaxed, low body fat with upper body muscles
2) great skin quality and misc
3) Orthodontics
4) getting a better hair style and beard, having nice fashion

i think most of it is just cope

top 3 aren't cope depending when you are starting from

 

[Niebvll]

what formula did you use einstein

ISTG

 

[bhsoda_destroyer]

top 3 aren't cope depending when you are starting from

how much would the average guy ascend from these?

 

[Organelle]

what formula did you use einstein

In what world is it not. What do people truly need to do more than this to ascend.

Roids: Just speeds up process of the gym
Peps: Speeds up process
Fat dissolvers: You don't necessarily "need" to ascend
Filler: You don't "need" to ascend

 

[Elisak]

If u have an average or above average harmony you’ll most likely be good looking

 

[stev]

how much would the average guy ascend from these?

Probably not too much as the average person has decent skin and teeth already so the gains will be minimal

 

[Elisak]

In what world is it not. What do people truly need to do more than this to ascend.

Roids: Just speeds up process of the gym
Peps: Speeds up process
Fat dissolvers: You don't necessarily "need" to ascend
Filler: You don't "need" to ascend

These all are also softmaxxes btw lol

 

[stev]

If u have an average or above average harmony you’ll most likely be good looking

Not necessarily

 

[Niebvll]

In what world is it not. What do people truly need to do more than this to ascend.

Roids: Just speeds up process of the gym
Peps: Speeds up process
Fat dissolvers: You don't necessarily "need" to ascend
Filler: You don't "need" to ascend

What people actually need is surgery

 

[Organelle]

These all are also softmaxxes btw lol

I'm not arguing that. I'm answering his question abt the pure basics.

What hardmaxes are SOOO NEEDED to ascend.

 

[Organelle]

What people actually need is surgery

Are you a dumbass? I literally said "(unless you have TERRIBLE features that need surgery)"

If someone has harmonic features, why tf would they need surgery.

 

[Elisak]

Not necessarily

Yeah but if u max out ur natural base with softmax you’ll be good looking as long as you have an average facial harmony with no facial deformities

 

[iamnotgrayipromise]

In what world is it not. What do people truly need to do more than this to ascend.

Roids: Just speeds up process of the gym
Peps: Speeds up process
Fat dissolvers: You don't necessarily "need" to ascend
Filler: You don't "need" to ascend

i am giving you a diagnosis of either being indian or a retard, proceed with caution

 

[Niebvll]

Are you a dumbass?

124iq

I literally said "(unless you have TERRIBLE features that need surgery)"

Terrible is completely out of use here
The absolute majority of the population, if not >90% have some sort of recession
Those are normal features, still need surgical treatment

If someone has harmonic features, why tf would they need surgery.

You dont have harmonic features if youre not already gl which is the minority and not the norm making bad features the norm and not "terrible"

 

[Organelle]

124iq

140iq with an irl professional test

Terrible is completely out of use here
The absolute majority of the population, if not >90% have some sort of recession
Those are normal features, still need surgical treatment

You can still be extremely good looking with 1 or 2 genetic flaws. Yes, surgery will get you way beyond your genetic potential, but it is not necessary to be good looking. The average person can easily reach hmtn or htn if they put effort into softmaxing (although it will take time). However, the reality is looksmaxing takes time and effort.

You dont have harmonic features if youre not already gl which is the minority and not the norm making bad features the norm and not "terrible"

A twink or fat person with acne, a bad haircut, asymmetrical teeth, and overall poor hygiene will not be attractive even if he has good features.

 

[bhsoda_destroyer]

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You can still be extremely good looking with 1 or 2 genetic flaws. Yes, surgery will get you way beyond your genetic potential, but it is not necessary to be good looking. The average person can easily reach hmtn or htn if they put effort into softmaxing (although it will take time). However, the reality is looksmaxing takes time and effort.

A twink or fat person with acne, a bad haircut, asymmetrical teeth, and overall poor hygiene will not be attractive even if he has good features.

how can the average person reach htn

 

[Niebvll]

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Unrelated lol since you claimed I was dumb, which is evidently false
Never claimed you were

You can still be extremely good looking with 1 or 2 genetic flaws.

and to ascend further you need to surgically fix those
exactly my point

Yes, surgery will get you way beyond your genetic potential, but it is not necessary to be good looking.

Not what I said lmao
Did you fake that test result?

The average person can easily reach hmtn or htn if they put effort into softmaxing (although it will take time).

No they cant LOL
You will NEVER reach HTN through softmaxes with an LTN base that is so delusional
LTNs have major recessions, no htn will ever come from that
Inb4 "but ehren"

However, the reality is looksmaxing takes time and effort.

Takes 100k and a year of total recovery time to go to cl

A twink or fat person with acne, a bad haircut, asymmetrical teeth, and overall poor hygiene will not be attractive even if he has good features.

You wont have good features if you are all of those lmao
The only thing could be height and frame which then would actually improve the smv by a lot
This isnt even on point anyways
If you are not good looking, you do not look harmonic and nothing you said even goes a bit against that

 

[Niebvll]

how can the average person reach htn

They just cant without surgery

 

[Organelle]

and to ascend further you need to surgically fix those
exactly my point

The whole argument is that I claimed like 85% of ascending is maxing our your base if you are not subhuman.

No they cant LOL
You will NEVER reach HTN through softmaxes with an LTN base that is so delusional
LTNs have major recessions, no htn will ever come from that
Inb4 "but ehren"

I am not talking abt LTNs. My argument is if you don't have major recessions or terrible features. I am talking abt LMTN and above.

You wont have good features if you are all of those lmao
The only thing could be height and frame which then would actually improve the smv by a lot
This isnt even on point anyways
If you are not good looking, you do not look harmonic and nothing you said even goes a bit against that

Bro what? Not taking care of yourself and your genetics are not correlated. Someone can have AMAZING features and waste them. And by features I mean things that would need surgical intervention if they were terrible. Someone who does not take care of themselves can still have great bone structure, great nose, great eye area, etc because features are given to you when you are born.

 

[Niebvll]

The whole argument is that I claimed like 85% of ascending is maxing our your base if you are not subhuman.

Thats not what you said
You said 85% of ascending is physique, misc, fashion and hair
Not the same as maxing out your base
Claiming that surgeries make up <15%+1 of ascending is completely delusional, disregarding the fact that it heavily depends on how much you want to improve

I am not talking abt LTNs. My argument is if you don't have major recessions or terrible features. I am talking abt LMTN and above.

You said AVERAGE
If we would now consult one of the most basic posts every greyfag should have read

Complete Guide to PSL ratings

What are PSL RATINGS? PSL ratings were created as a way of being able to determine ones aesthetic value and applying beauty standards to a rating system, based on solely their face. The central idea behind PSL ratings is not purely finding ones SMV/appeal, but it can be better described as...

looksmax.org

Youd know LTN is average

Bro what? Not taking care of yourself and your genetics are not correlated.

Where did I claim that?
If you dont take care of yourself you still wont have good features, at most you could have a semi good bone structure but that would still be seen through everything you mentioned lmao

Someone can have AMAZING features and waste them.

No lol
chad bones will never fall below average due to this

And by features I mean things that would need surgical intervention if they were terrible.

Again, terrible is not the correct term at all here
And maybe define that before you make use of the word

Someone who does not take care of themselves can still have great bone structure, great nose, great eye area, etc because features are given to you when you are born.

Exactly they still can and thats why they will still look decent. Not as good as if they would take care better, but still decent. The biggest part of the ascension you would get from fixing those bad behaviors would be that you sort of uncover the good bone structure which is absolutely not the norm considering the vast majority of people would only uncover bad bone structure or atleast wont see a good one. For them, softmaxes have far far less impact than surgeries, your 85% point might apply to chad whose biggest failo is hormonal acne but not to the average guy