How much do you think surgery prices will inflate in the next 5 years?

[Prøphet]

With the flood of bpillers that actually know gatekept shi (thanks clav) Which I think is only beginning rn tbh, how bad do you think demand will outrun supply for top surgeons popular on PSL?

 

[Prøphet]

@Acquiescence

 

[Prøphet]

@Foreverbrad @FiendFiend

 

[Prøphet]

@FrenchareMedCucks

 

[Prøphet]

Dnrd pill brutal

 

[BeanCelll]

Not much, unless they make the already risky shit like OBO more efficent with cutting edge tech then those'll probably increase, the prices right now should still be enough to keep a steady but not abundant demand.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Doesn’t matter. Losers will continue getting surgery, alphas get on with their lives.

 

[Prøphet]

Doesn’t matter. Losers will continue getting surgery, alphas get on with their lives.

Name one way for genetic losers to become winners without surgery?

 

[Prøphet]

Not much, unless they make the already risky shit like OBO more efficent with cutting edge tech then those'll probably increase, the prices right now should still be enough to keep a steady but not abundant demand.

Yea good point, also it’s true that most people talking about surgeries are just larps, but if even 1% of them are serious and start going to all the top rated surgeons (there aren’t that many that are truly BP’ed and genuinely talented) we could be shit out of luck and start seeing gunson level prices even in turkey

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Name one way for genetic losers to become winners without surgery?

Monkmaxxing
Serenitymaxxing
There is no “winning” with your route

 

[Prøphet]

Monkmaxxing
Serenitymaxxing
There is no “winning” with your route

There’s no winning when you chase after your desires for the sake of chasing after them, aka greed

But if you’re chasing your desires purely to better your circumstances and objectively improve your future quality of life, that’s the path, not inaction and coping with a life that doesn’t meet your needs

 

[optimisticzoomer]

There’s no winning when you chase after your desires for the sake of chasing after them, aka greed

But if you’re chasing your desires purely to better your circumstances and objectively improve your future quality of life, that’s the path, not inaction and coping with a life that doesn’t meet your needs

There is no such thing as an incel. Getting surgery (outside of medical surgery) is greed. You’ll never be happy if you don’t accept and love yourself

 

[optimisticzoomer]

If you laugh at that, you need to be saved

 

[Prøphet]

There is no such thing as an incel. Getting surgery (outside of medical surgery) is greed. You’ll never be happy if you don’t accept and love yourself

Would you also say working out or skincare is greed? Is it greed to invest your time/money into better treatment and better outcomes in your life?

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Would you also say working out or skincare is greed? Is it greed to invest your time/money into better treatment and better outcomes in your life?

Define better outcomes. If you’re a materialistic NPC, it might matter. If you realise that your existence is crazy and you’re lucky to just be here, it doesn’t. Monkmaxxing truly is law.

Working out and skincare is just enhancing what you’ve got. I never said you had to be a slob, but you shouldn’t try and rearrange your features under the knife. You shouldn’t take those things too far either. Working out should be keeping basic strength and fitness. Working out to look big, like most people do, is unnatural and greedy

 

[Prøphet]

Define better outcomes. If you’re a materialistic NPC, it might matter. If you realise that your existence is crazy and you’re lucky to just be here, it doesn’t. Monkmaxxing truly is law.

Working out and skincare is just enhancing what you’ve got. I never said you had to be a slob, but you shouldn’t try and rearrange your features under the knife. You shouldn’t take those things too far either. Working out should be keeping basic strength and fitness. Working out to look big, like most people do, is unnatural and greedy

How is surgery not enhancing what you’ve got as well? There’s no clear line that separates it from soft maxxing jfl. The idea of going too far being at some arbitrary line in the sand is jester

 

[optimisticzoomer]

How is surgery not enhancing what you’ve got as well? There’s no clear line that separates it from soft maxxing jfl. The idea of going too far being at some arbitrary line in the sand is jester

Yeah cos cutting your face open to make it look like someone else is the same as clearing acne

 

[optimisticzoomer]

How is surgery not enhancing what you’ve got as well? There’s no clear line that separates it from soft maxxing jfl. The idea of going too far being at some arbitrary line in the sand is jester

@Debetro

 

[Debetro]

@Debetro

 

[Prøphet]

Yeah cos cutting your face open to make it look like someone else is the same as clearing acne

You’re also clearing your acne to make it look like someone with healthy skin

What’s the moral distinction?

 

[Wexilarious]

They will become even cheaper because it is profitable to make people butched long term

 

[optimisticzoomer]

You’re also clearing your acne to make it look like someone with healthy skin

What’s the moral distinction?

I guess someone losing weight and a man frauding as a woman are equal too then?

 

[NotaChadyet]

Surgeons will make so much that i think the price will go lower based on certain surgeries

 

[valentine]

will become cheaper

 

[Prøphet]

I guess someone losing weight and a man frauding as a woman are equal too then?

False equivalence

Frauding as a different sex is a whole different thing socially and biologically than trying to improve your looks

 

[Prøphet]

Surgeons will make so much that i think the price will go lower based on certain surgeries

But if demand goes up wouldnt they charge more money since they can only take so many people

 

[optimisticzoomer]

False equivalence

Frauding as a different sex is a whole different thing socially and biologically than trying to improve your looks

Frauding as a different sex is different than getting surgery to fraud as a different person? How?

Jfl. And this is the guy talking about there not being a line

Keep coping. You’re trying to justify surgery because you’re extremely low IQ and have been given hope by believing surgery is the answer

 

[shessonice]

I couldn't imagine more than a 5-10% increase. For surgeries that could meaningfully ascend most people.


Most people don't have the IQ necessary to earn the money to get surgery as is. And by the time most can afford it, the hypergamy seen in early adult hood is gone because roasties realize that they will need to settle down.

Most are already scared of surgery as is, that's why you see retards coping with exogenous hormones. Many won't even pursue proper surgery prep either and just get themselves botched like retards.

 

[Prøphet]

Frauding as a different sex is different than getting surgery to fraud as a different person? How?

Jfl. And this is the guy talking about there not being a line

Keep coping. You’re trying to justify surgery because you’re extremely low IQ and have been given hope by believing surgery is the answer

Because frauding as a different sex will not directly improve your treatment and outcomes the way frauding your looks will (which we all do to some extent btw)

When it comes to frauding your looks which is normal and healthy there’s no big distinction between skincare, roiding, peptides, or hardmaxxing, it’s all for the same purpose, the only difference between those is risk:reward

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Because frauding as a different sex will not directly improve your treatment and outcomes the way frauding your looks will (which we all do to some extent btw)

So? You mentioned morals. How is frauding as a different sex morally worse?

If you want to try and live as a fraud, go ahead. When you’re 50k down, broken inside, and worse off than if you’d never had any surgery, remember me.

 

[shessonice]

But if demand goes up wouldnt they charge more money since they can only take so many people

In some areas we might see ghost surgery that goes on in south korea begin to happen in other countries. So they can keep the volume of patients they're taking in high.

 

[Foreverbrad]

In some areas we might see ghost surgery that goes on in south korea begin to happen in other countries. So they can keep the volume of patients they're taking in high.

This is most likely outcome I think.

 

[Acquiescence]

Probably enough to price out most wageslaves like us. Over

 

[FrenchareMedCucks]

Maximum 3-15 % price inflation mostly to follow global inflation costs

Surgeons need constant supply of men and being too expensive above 25-30k bimax reduce your demand base significantly

Men in general population are bluepilled and scared of surgery, furthermore spending 15-20k while they can just continue simping, jestermaxxing and pay premium account on Tinder with their recessed faces rather than become better looking with skeletal improvement

 

[reallooksmaxxer]

I couldn't imagine more than a 5-10% increase. For surgeries that could meaningfully ascend most people.


Most people don't have the IQ necessary to earn the money to get surgery as is. And by the time most can afford it, the hypergamy seen in early adult hood is gone because roasties realize that they will need to settle down.

Most are already scared of surgery as is, that's why you see retards coping with exogenous hormones. Many won't even pursue proper surgery prep either and just get themselves botched like retards.

yea this is true

the more you expose yourself to such communities the more you want surgery and fear it less

when i was a normie surgery seemed like something high risk with the possiblity of dying on that operation table or getting botched

then i became blackpilled and was still against surgery, i coped with mewing n gymceling

then i started spending time on incel boards and told myself i would only get something like a HT

the longer i rotted on incel spaces the more my barriers broke down

3 months ago i never wouldve considered a bimax

now i would eat you for a free lefort 2

most normies never even become blackpilled or jointhe incel community so in their minds surgery is this big scary thing which carries a risk of you dying or getting botched

the only 'normies' i see getting surgery in the future are women since they dont need very invasive procedures to ascend so its less scary, to them its just an injection e.g bbl, fillers

rep me niggas

 

[shessonice]

now i would eat you for a free lefort 2

i am also considering pursuing lefort 2 atm too. I'm aware of the risks but I genuinely have gotten to the point where I dont care.

Also, a good amount of people who have gotten to this point, will not pursue proper surgery prep. They wont like the idea of their surgery being 2-3 years out from their consult date. and want it asap.

 

[reallooksmaxxer]

i am also considering pursuing lefort 2 atm too. I'm aware of the risks but I genuinely have gotten to the point where I dont care.

Also, a good amount of people who have gotten to this point, will not pursue proper surgery prep. They wont like the idea of their surgery being 2-3 years out from their consult date. and want it asap.

i didnt know it took so much time,

i will probably fall into the group which doesnt do proper prep. cant imagine having to wait 2 yrs when i already have the money

 

[shessonice]

i didnt know it took so much time,

i will probably fall into the group which doesnt do proper prep. cant imagine having to wait 2 yrs when i already have the money

2-3 years is a bit more extreme (this is more like if you cant just spontaneously fly out and whatnot), its more like typically 1-1.5

You need ortho work most of the time, and its usually braces because they need very precise tooth movement. If you have a narrow palate, then you will need an RPE, which then does fall in the 2-3 year range.

 

[Prøphet]

In some areas we might see ghost surgery that goes on in south korea begin to happen in other countries. So they can keep the volume of patients they're taking in high.

Isn’t that illegal as shit

 

[Prøphet]

yea this is true

the more you expose yourself to such communities the more you want surgery and fear it less

when i was a normie surgery seemed like something high risk with the possiblity of dying on that operation table or getting botched

then i became blackpilled and was still against surgery, i coped with mewing n gymceling

then i started spending time on incel boards and told myself i would only get something like a HT

the longer i rotted on incel spaces the more my barriers broke down

3 months ago i never wouldve considered a bimax

now i would eat you for a free lefort 2

most normies never even become blackpilled or jointhe incel community so in their minds surgery is this big scary thing which carries a risk of you dying or getting botched

the only 'normies' i see getting surgery in the future are women since they dont need very invasive procedures to ascend so its less scary, to them its just an injection e.g bbl, fillers

rep me niggas

This is so true jfl

A year ago I would’ve thought you were crazy

Now I look at morphs of my side profile and realize how much I need it

 

[shessonice]

Isn’t that illegal as shit

Its illegal in SK too, they just get away with it. Imagine what those turkish roaches will get away with.

 

[FrenchareMedCucks]

i am also considering pursuing lefort 2 atm too. I'm aware of the risks but I genuinely have gotten to the point where I dont care.

Also, a good amount of people who have gotten to this point, will not pursue proper surgery prep. They wont like the idea of their surgery being 2-3 years out from their consult date. and want it asap.

Don't do butcher osteotomies like LF 2 or OBO you got brainwashed by Giant Implants

This guy is an influencer marketing walking red flag

He settled in turkey to avoid legal actions, his 'terminator' like implants looks shiny plastic under natural light and comically blocky because too big to handle soft tissue

He claims he's the one and only best in the world, has no medical licence, avoid responsibility for botches and blame surgeon or healing process

 

[Prøphet]

Don't do butcher osteotomies like LF 2 or OBO you got brainwashed by Giant Implants

This guy is an influencer marketing walking red flag

He settled in turkey to avoid legal actions, his 'terminator' like implants looks shiny plastic under natural light and comically blocky because too big to handle soft tissue

He claims he's the one and only best in the world, has no medical licence, avoid responsibility for botches and blame surgeon or healing process

What about getting designed implants from him annd having them placed by an Italian surgeon?

 

[jeremyy]

With the flood of bpillers that actually know gatekept shi (thanks clav) Which I think is only beginning rn tbh, how bad do you think demand will outrun supply for top surgeons popular on PSL?

times 1000 NIGGER IT WILL BE UNFORDABLE NO LEFORT FOR YOU

FAGGOT

 

[Prøphet]

times 1000 NIGGER IT WILL BE UNFORDABLE NO LEFORT FOR YOU

FAGGOT

Failed ragebait acc

 

[jeremyy]

Failed ragebait acc

i’m not rage baiting lol i couldnt give les of a shit

i’m just hyper as fuck today ok

 

[FiendFiend]

With the flood of bpillers that actually know gatekept shi (thanks clav) Which I think is only beginning rn tbh, how bad do you think demand will outrun supply for top surgeons popular on PSL?

way cheaper. Housing gets more expensve, and things u actually dont need to survive, shit on the side like surgeries, procedures only get cheaper imo

 

[Prøphet]

way cheaper. Housing gets more expensve, and things u actually dont need to survive, shit on the side like surgeries, procedures only get cheaper imo

Perchance

 

[FiendFiend]

Perchance

i mean besides apple who charges insane amounts for phone, tech has stayed relatively cheap and even at times got cheaper despite inflation going up.

its brutal. shitty food is cheap, however the things u need as an adult, cars, and housing is only going up ridiculous amounts

 

[Prøphet]

i mean besides apple who charges insane amounts for phone, tech has stayed relatively cheap and even at times got cheaper despite inflation going up.

its brutal. shitty food is cheap, however the things u need as an adult, cars, and housing is only going up ridiculous amounts

On bro you will own nothing and be happy