How much Masseter size can be retained after hopping off cycle?

[Seeyenar]

I’ve realised I’m a good candidate for inducing masseter growth (narrow jaw , forward grown zygos with good ogee curve) but I also don’t want to wait years to get results.

Could a test only cycle speed up growth significantly and allow me to retain my size post cycle provided that I continue chewing?

I know people often lose considerable size post-cycle from gymcelling but I’m wondering how it works with the masseter as it’s a relatively smaller muscle and it appears hard to atrophy based on the amount of people that need to have Botox procedures on it.

Has anyone had any experience with chewing on roids?

 

[true.perso.chad]

I’ve realised I’m a good candidate for inducing masseter growth (narrow jaw , forward grown zygos with good ogee curve) but I also don’t want to wait years to get results.

Could a test only cycle speed up growth significantly and allow me to retain my size post cycle provided that I continue chewing?

I know people often lose considerable size post-cycle from gymcelling but I’m wondering how it works with the masseter as it’s a relatively smaller muscle and it appears hard to atrophy based on the amount of people that need to have Botox procedures on it.

Has anyone had any experience with chewing on roids?

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[Seeyenar]

Bump

 

[Seeyenar]

Bump

 

[cctslbz]

I’ve realised I’m a good candidate for inducing masseter growth (narrow jaw , forward grown zygos with good ogee curve) but I also don’t want to wait years to get results.

Could a test only cycle speed up growth significantly and allow me to retain my size post cycle provided that I continue chewing?

I know people often lose considerable size post-cycle from gymcelling but I’m wondering how it works with the masseter as it’s a relatively smaller muscle and it appears hard to atrophy based on the amount of people that need to have Botox procedures on it.

Has anyone had any experience with chewing on roids?

The Masseter is one of the strongest muscles in the body , if you continue to load it with chewing everyday it won’t atrophy . You can’t atrophy it by simply not using it because you use it everyday and as I said it’s one of the most powerful muscles in the body . Botox is the only way to atrophy it or you could eat liquid food a year and it’ll atrophy but by then you would have other 5 jaw issues . NO you won’t lose your Masseter size if you get off yes . You can grow your masseters without the cycle bruh in 3-6 weeks . Mark as solution if you want

 

[Seeyenar]

The Masseter is one of the strongest muscles in the body , if you continue to load it with chewing everyday it won’t atrophy . You can’t atrophy it by simply not using it because you use it everyday and as I said it’s one of the most powerful muscles in the body . Botox is the only way to atrophy it or you could eat liquid food a year and it’ll atrophy but by then you would have other 5 jaw issues . NO you won’t lose your Masseter size if you get off yes . You can grow your masseters without the cycle bruh in 3-6 weeks . Mark as solution if you want

What noticeable results have you seen that take 3-6 weeks? 3-6 months maybe. But yeah I did suspect that it would be hard to atrophy but I’ve seen conflicting views on it.

 

[cctslbz]

What noticeable results have you seen that take 3-6 weeks? 3-6 months maybe. But yeah I did suspect that it would be hard to atrophy but I’ve seen conflicting views on it.

I have this problem bruh I’ve had my masseters overdeveloped 3 years now , I’ll get Botox soon . I overdeveloped them in 2021-2022 when everyone said chew chew for jaw gains it was a fucking meme . It helped me get a better ramus and better gonial angle and grew bone since I was a kid . But I chewed a ton fucking lot and that saved me from being a ltn cuck and grew bone but growing bone through this only works when you’re a kid . Botox is the only way to atrophy it and I’m going to get Masseter and temporalis Botox since when you chew you train the both of them and they need to be proportional symmetrical

 

[Seeyenar]

I have this problem bruh I’ve had my masseters overdeveloped 3 years now , I’ll get Botox soon . I overdeveloped them in 2021-2022 when everyone said chew chew for jaw gains it was a fucking meme . It helped me get a better ramus and better gonial angle and grew bone since I was a kid . But I chewed a ton fucking lot and that saved me from being a ltn cuck and grew bone but growing bone through this only works when you’re a kid . Botox is the only way to atrophy it and I’m going to get Masseter and temporalis Botox since when you chew you train the both of them and they need to be proportional symmetrical

I heard that the temporalis doesn’t actually grow that much when chewing, at least not near as much as the masseter even if you feel them both get pumped, Suifuel if not true.

 

[cctslbz]

I heard that the temporalis doesn’t actually grow that much when chewing, at least not near as much as the masseter even if you feel them both get pumped, Suifuel if not true.

Depends from person to person for me it grew but not that much . It’s just annoying that it gives me headaches and hurts a lot since I also have bruxism . But be careful how you do it cause you can fuck your face up if you have a long ramus and your mandible isn’t misaligned go for it you can always get Botox if you mess it up so it’s okay . As for the time I recall 3+ weeks to see results chewing I was younger tho . But seriously top 10 softmax

 

[whateverittakes245]

no matter how good your bones and insertions are you shouldn't risk overtraining your massetters, that hullo nigga fucked himself up by doing the same as what you're planning

 

[Seeyenar]

no matter how good your bones and insertions are you shouldn't risk overtraining your massetters, that hullo nigga fucked himself up by doing the same as what you're planning

How did he fuck himself up?

his jaw looks fine to me

 

[whateverittakes245]

How did he fuck himself up?

his jaw looks fine to me

his bizygo to bigonial is fucking terrible and his face looks round as fuck now like u dont wanna look like ts bro

 

[Seeyenar]

his bizygo to bigonial is fucking terrible

seems like a good problem to have , my bizygo to bigonial is terrible but in the other direction.

 

[whateverittakes245]

seems like a good problem to have , my bizygo to bigonial is terrible but in the other direction.

fair enough man, if you think you can do it properly then go for it its your life but as other users here said its really hard to atrophy your massetters without botox, plus soft tissue never looks the same as real gonial flare so just keep these things in mind

 

[Seeyenar]

fair enough man, if you think you can do it properly then go for it its your life but as other users here said its really hard to atrophy your massetters without botox, plus soft tissue never looks the same as real gonial flare so just keep these things in mind

1. easy to increase bizygomatic to bigonial

2. really hard to atrophy

that's exactly what i need

i'll build them up on my test cycle, and then hop off and keep all of the gains.

 

[Seeyenar]

plus soft tissue never looks the same as real gonial flare so just keep these things in mind

every single large jaw i've seen has large masseters tbh

 

[whateverittakes245]

1. easy to increase bizygomatic to bigonial

2. really hard to atrophy

that's exactly what i need

i'll build them up on my test cycle, and then hop off and keep all of the gains.

will this be your first cycle?

 

[whateverittakes245]

every single large jaw i've seen has large masseters tbh

flared gonions make massetters appear way bigger and better

 

[Seeyenar]

will this be your first cycle?

yes, but it's actually mainly for life quality improvements rather than muscle growth. i want to feel what it's like to have high test.

was planning on 150mg test for 20 weeks

 

[Seeyenar]

flared gonions make massetters appear way bigger and better

Probably, but i dont think its possible for me to look worse after hypertrophying masseter. My jaw is giga narrow, i need any width i can no matter what it comes from.

 

[kaydd]

Probably, but i dont think its possible for me to look worse after hypertrophying masseter. My jaw is giga narrow, i need any width i can no matter what it comes from.

Pls determine your masseter placement first. I overtrained them for like a year and two and ended up looking bloated/ rounded 24/7 despite having low bf on top of my already boneless face. But generally its a plus, just in my case it was a failo

 

[Seeyenar]

Pls determine your masseter placement first. I overtrained them for like a year and two and ended up looking bloated/ rounded 24/7 despite having low bf on top of my already boneless face. But generally its a plus, just in my case it was a failo

i think "masseter placement" just comes down to ramus and gonial angle tbh, my gonions do sit above my mouth-line and it's not ideal however i do have zygo shadowing which is emphasised when clenching + the desperate need for a wider jaw so i do believe masseter growth will be a net positive for me.

Did you end up managing to atrophy them back to a desirable size?

 

[kaydd]

ye, they look fine for now. Improved the tmj clicks i used to have too.

I have zygo shadowing which is emphasised when clenching + the desperate need for a wider jaw so i do believe masseter growth will be a net positive for me.

idk about all that but sure you ca give it a try

 

[Former Shortcel]

i think "masseter placement" just comes down to ramus and gonial angle tbh, my gonions do sit above my mouth-line and it's not ideal however i do have zygo shadowing which is emphasised when clenching + the desperate need for a wider jaw so i do believe masseter growth will be a net positive for me.

Did you end up managing to atrophy them back to a desirable size?

If you have outward gonions it can be a benefit for you, if not you can have the bloatcel look, especially if theyre inward

Mine are outward so it helped, although i think my jaw is too wide now due to the overdevelopment of my masseters. So i plan on getting botox for them in the future

 

[Seeyenar]

If you have outward gonions it can be a benefit for you, if not you can have the bloatcel look, especially if theyre inward

Mine are outward so it helped, although i think my jaw is too wide now due to the overdevelopment of my masseters. So i plan on getting botox for them in the future

The thing is though, Jaws with outward gonions tend to already have sufficient width (and often well developed masseteers without specifically training them).
probably reason why you ended up with a jaw that's too wide.

Anyway, I personally have inward gonions but i have no choice but to chew, as i said my bigonial to bizygo ratio is rather horrific.
i'll just sit at 10-12% bf and pray i don't end up bloated.

 

[Former Shortcel]

The thing is though, Jaws with outward gonions tend to already have sufficient width (and often well developed masseteers without specifically training them).
probably reason why you ended up with a jaw that's too wide.

Anyway, I personally have inward gonions but i have no choice but to chew, as i said my bigonial to bizygo ratio is rather horrific.
i'll just sit at 10-12% bf and pray i don't end up bloated.

I wouldnt recommend it personally, having inward gonions and chewing is just a recipe for achieving the bloatcel look. And youll end up paying for botox for your masseters in the future

In my opinion its just huge a looksmin for an increase in bigonial width

 

[Former Shortcel]

The thing is though, Jaws with outward gonions tend to already have sufficient width (and often well developed masseteers without specifically training them).
probably reason why you ended up with a jaw that's too wide.

Also yeah i agree with this, cant believe i fell for that chewing nonsense, when i already had a good base for my jaw

 

[Seeyenar]

I wouldnt recommend it personally, having inward gonions and chewing is just a recipe for achieving the bloatcel look. And youll end up paying for botox for your masseters in the future

In my opinion its just huge a looksmin for an increase in bigonial width

Doesn't make sense to attribute it all to inward gonions.

This guy has inward gonions:

i don't think he would be in any danger of looking bloated Look at those hollows.

Zygos probably play just as big of a role in determining the aesthetic outcome of masseter growth and could be a saving grace for combatting a potential bloatcel look.

But yes i am aware that i'm somewhat gambling here and may have to pay for botox, but it's either that or get implants. (A mere pipedream for most users on this forum).

 

[Former Shortcel]

Doesn't make sense to attribute it all to inward gonions.

This guy has inward gonions:

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i don't think he would be in any danger of looking bloated Look at those hollows.

Zygos probably play just as big of a role in determining the aesthetic outcome of masseter growth and could be a saving grace for combatting a potential bloatcel look.

But yes i am aware that i'm somewhat gambling here and may have to pay for botox, but it's either that or get implants. (A mere pipedream for most users on this forum).

Hmmm i can kinda see what you mean, but your example is also sean o pry

 

[whateverittakes245]

yes, but it's actually mainly for life quality improvements rather than muscle growth. i want to feel what it's like to have high test.

was planning on 150mg test for 20 weeks

Do 300, there's no reason to cycle 150 unless it's a cruise, you'll have the same suppression but more positives

 

[Seeyenar]

Do 300, there's no reason to cycle 150 unless it's a cruise, you'll have the same suppression but more positives

I want to avoid as many side affects as possible.

Don’t want to have to take DHT blockers or AIs if I don’t have to

Also it’s easier to come off 150 than 300
and you’re more likely to retain muscle gains (for obvious reasons).

 

[ferqq]

to have a god size of masseter it takes like 1-3 years, so yes, use roids to make it faster