How much of your final adult appearance is environmental vs genetic

[Deleted member 6572]

Is it almost all genetics or more so environment in your opinion? What has led you to this conclusion?

 

[deer]

Genetics
Because I know chads who eat like shit, live like shit and still look good af

 

[Vitruvian]

100% genetic

 

[Deleted member 6572]

Genetics
Because I know chads who eat like shit, live like shit and still look good af

what if you are under stress and don't sleep during puberty tho

 

[AutisticBeaner]

don't form your opinion based on the opinion of other users here. the vast majority doesn't know shit

 

[Zygos4Life]

99% genetic 1% environment

 

[deer]

what if you are under stress and don't sleep during puberty tho

Just unhealthy, might because other problems but I don’t believe it interferes with face bone growth, only if you don’t sleep atleast 6 hours during your whole puberty
Btw- My opinion stfu

 

[Deleted member 6572]

w

don't form your opinion based on the opinion of other users here. the vast majority doesn't know shit

what's your opinion dude?

 

[Deleted member 4209]

Genevironment

 

[AutisticBeaner]

w
what's your opinion dude?

it's hard to give a definite answer to your question due to it's nature, but this forum generally vastly underestimates the influnce of environment, and even more so does the general public

 

[Golang]

It's mostly genetic dude.

My mom was part of a poor farmer family so she mewed, worked out (was fit), had good posture, ate healthy (no processed Jew foods nor junk food), never mouth breath, and never used utensils like knives or forks, so she had to use her hands and teeth.

You would expect her to be a Giga Stacy... right? WRONG!

She has a long face narrow skull with receding chin.

When I was born I was a lazy fuck and unhealthy, my skull came out to be exactly the same as her.

99.999% genetic, 0.001% environment

 

[Deleted member 6572]

it's hard to give a definite answer to your question due to it's nature, but this forum generally vastly underestimates the influnce of environment, and even more so does the general public

id say mostly genetic too tho, you are Matthew boling fan, look at him vs his twin brother.

 

[Deleted member 5574]

ever so slightly possible ,like i ate to much sugar from 12-19 think i fucked with test and full healthy development .Only if you parents have good genes .Chad was definitely in my potential as my brother is gigachad

 

[Deleted member 6572]

It's mostly genetic dude.

My mom was part of a poor farmer family so she mewed, worked hard, had good posture, ate healthy (no processed Jew foods nor junk food), never mouth breath, and never used utensiles like knifes or forks, so she had to use her hands and teeth.

You would expect her to be a Giga Stacy... right? WRONG!

She has a long face narrow skull with receding chin.

When I was born I was a lazy fuck and unhealthy, my skull came out to be exactly the same as her.

99.999% genetic, 0.001% environment

environment copers pack up go home thats a wrap buddyboyos.

 

[AutisticBeaner]

id say mostly genetic too tho, you are Matthew boling fan, look at him vs his twin brother.

according to my mother i have been breastfed for around a year, while my brothers got mere weeks. who says this can't have been the case with matthew and his brother?

 

[Deleted member 6572]

according to my mother i have been breastfed for around a year, while my brothers got mere weeks. who says this can't have been the case with matthew and his brother?

dude im sorry but thats cope, they probably had the same environment and everything, they grew up in a rich suburb of Houston both had access to nutrition, one just inherited a lot better genes.

 

[AutisticBeaner]

dude im sorry but thats cope, they probably had the same environment and everything, they grew up in a rich suburb of Houston both had access to nutrition, one just inherited a lot better genes.

how does this explain anything?

 

[Britishlooksmaxxer]

All environment bro I was born curry but my skin is now white bro I’m basically aryan Cos I didn’t get any sun when I was younger

 

[Deleted member 6572]

how does this explain anything?

it is genetic recombination to explain, take Richard Ramirez for example here is him with his brother

 

[Deleted member 6572]

All environment bro I was born curry but my skin is now white bro I’m basically aryan Cos I didn’t get any sun when I was younger

sunbathing curries on suicide watch after that post

 

[Golang]

dude im sorry but thats cope, they probably had the same environment and everything, they grew up in a rich suburb of Houston both had access to nutrition, one just inherited a lot better genes.

A lot of environmental copers think all the MMs Chads had a perfect diet and lifestyles, when in reality it was just all genetics and they probably had similar lifestyles as some people here. The only legit way for environment to matter is if you live in a 3rd world country were there aren't enough nutrients to develop properly, and even with that it would only account for 20% of your looks.

I have another anecdote. I have a friend who was very athetlic and was always forced to eat healthy by his parents in Elementary School and High School, you would expect him to be a Giga Chad with massive bones, right? WRONG!!!

While he was doing all that shit I was sitting on my ass being an unhealthy fat ass cunt and at the end of High School I ended up having more bones than him.

 

[Deleted member 6572]

A lot of environmental copers think all the MMs Chads had a perfect diet and lifestyles, when in reality it was just all genetics and they probably had similar lifestyles as some people here. The only legit way for environment to matter is if you live in a 3rd world country were there aren't enough nutrients to develop properly, and even with that it would only account for 20% of your looks.

I have another anecdote. I have a friend who was very athetlic and was always forced to eat healthy by his parents in Elementary School and High School, you would expect him to be a Giga Chad with massive bones, right? WRONG!!!

While he was doing all that shit I was sitting on my ass being an unhealthy fat ass cunt and at the end of High School I ended up having more bones than him.

do you think drug use effected it, I used to be addicted to drugs

 

[Deleted member 7966]

I am leaning towards environment these days. There was this guy in my highschool that had a truecel face but he was gymaxxed, no acne, very well groomed so he looked good.

 

[Golang]

do you think drug use effected it, I used to be addicted to drugs

Yes, it can, but don't think you would've become a Chad if you didn't.

Drugs cannot change your looks radically unless you're malnutrion living in Africa in your teen years.

Think of your face as a house. It doesn't matter the quality of the materials or the quality of the workers building the house, if the blueprints are shit, the house will be shit. The blueprints being your DNA. Drugs could make the materials of the house to be of less quality.... but the house would've look like shit either way.

 

[Deleted member 6572]

I am leaning towards environment these days. There was this guy in my highschool that had a truecel face but he was gymaxxed, no acne, very well groomed so he looked good.

im talking environment vs genes as for how your face will develop, your facial bones.

 

[Golang]

I am leaning towards environment these days. There was this guy in my highschool that had a truecel face but he was gymaxxed, no acne, very well groomed so he looked good.

That doesn't count as environment. Those truecels were either late bloomers (genetic) or already had those bones underneath the fat (genetic)

 

[Deleted member 6572]

Yes, it can, but don't think you would've become a Chad if you didn't.

Drugs cannot change your looks radically unless you're malnutrion living in Africa in your teen years.

Think of your face as a house. It doesn't matter the quality of the materials or the quality of the workers building the house, if the blueprints are shit, the house will be shit. The blueprints being your DNA. Drugs could make the materials of the house to be of less quality.... but the house would've look like shit either way.

thats me is it over?

 

[AutisticBeaner]

it is genetic recombination to explain, take Richard Ramirez for example here is him with his brother

that is not proof, do you not see this?

 

[Deleted member 6572]

that is not proof, do you not see this?

but height is mainly genetic, dick size, voice, hairline, why would face be any different

 

[Golang]

thats me is it over?

Need a better pic. Your skin doesn't look that good, mostly due to the drugs, I'm pretty sure it can be fixed with skin routine and some visits to the derma. Also seems that you're balding (100% genetic unless you have a disease that makes you loose hair)

Show me a side/profile pic, you seem to chin mog me.

 

[Entschuldigung]

80% genetics 20% environment

 

[Vidyacoper]

its all genetic unless you mouthbreathed VERY hard

 

[Deleted member 6572]

Need a better pic. Your skin doesn't look that good, mostly due to the drugs, I'm pretty sure it can be fixed with skin routine and some visits to the derma. Also seems that you're balding (100% genetic unless you have a disease that makes you loose hair)

Show me a side/profile pic, you seem to chin mog me.

my head was shaved due to going to military school im not balding at all, here's some more pics.

 

[Deleted member 7966]

im talking environment vs genes as for how your face will develop, your facial bones.

In that case it's like height. While nutrition and stuff like that definitely contribute, it's largely genetics, in the west it might as well be 100% genetics.

That doesn't count as environment. Those truecels were either late bloomers (genetic) or already had those bones underneath the fat (genetic)

Still has a truecel face. It's just that when you judge him holistically he looks good.

 

[Deleted member 6572]

In that case it's like height. While nutrition and stuff like that definitely contribute, it's largely genetics, in the west it might as well be 100% genetics.

Still has a truecel face. It's just that when you judge him holistically he looks good.

but some people here have led me to falsely believe for a while you can look completely different if you would've gotten more sleep in childhood and bukllshit like that.

 

[Golang]

my head was shaved due to going to military school im not balding at all, here's some more pics.

You look good in the first pic... BUT you look indian, so it's over for you regardless. Not trying to sound racist, but women don't like ethnics and no matter how good you look, if you're indian, it's game over.

 

[Deleted member 7863]

it's hard to give a definite answer to your question due to it's nature, but this forum generally vastly underestimates the influnce of environment, and even more so does the general public

How do you explain richard ramirez shit childhood yet insane bone structure

 

[Golang]

its all genetic unless you mouthbreathed VERY hard

Honestly mouth breathing and severe malnutrition are the only things that can affect your facial development, everthing else is cope.

 

[Lux]

A general rule for this kind of shit is 50/50. Mental illness & a bunch of other stuff is 50% genetic 50% environmental.

 

[Deleted member 6572]

Honestly mouth breathing and severe malnutrition are the only things that can affect your facial development, everthing else is cope.

You look good in the first pic... BUT you look indian, so it's over for you regardless. Not trying to sound racist, but women don't like ethnics and no matter how good you look, if you're indian, it's game over.

I was just really skinny right not malnourished here? me at like 9

 

[Deleted member 7966]

A general rule for this kind of shit is 50/50. Mental illness & a bunch of other stuff is 50% genetic 50% environmental.

That's not true though. Height is 80% genetics and that 20% only applies in turd world countries.

 

[Vidyacoper]

Honestly mouth breathing and severe malnutrition are the only things that can affect your facial development, everthing else is cope.

exactly. literally this. everyone wants to cope but this is the simple truth, no "b-but m-m-maybe i didnt have perfect tongue posture when i was 6 years old? i... i cant possibly have defective genetics!"

 

[Golang]

A general rule for this kind of shit is 50/50. Mental illness & a bunch of other stuff is 50% genetic 50% environmental.

Environment is NOT 50%, I'm even skeptical about it being 20%

 

[Deleted member 6572]

Environment is NOT 50%, I'm even skeptical about it being 20%

Me too tbh, Richard Ramirez smoked pot at 10

 

[Golang]

I was just really skinny right not malnourished here? me at like 9

Don't worry bro, if you didn't go weeks without food then you were not malnourished, being skinny as a kid is due to genetics and body type, you seem to be ectomorph which is all genetic.

 

[Lux]

That's not true though. Height is 80% genetics and that 20% only applies in turd world countries.

True but there's 50% total variance in the genetic height.

 

[Aesthetics_III]

Its complex. You’re not going to get good answers from anyone on this forum, ask a scientist or something.

Heritability of mandibular cephalometric variables in twins with completed craniofacial growth - PubMed

The shape and sagittal position of the mandible is under stronger genetic control, than is its size and vertical relationship to cranial base.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

“The shape and sagittal position of the mandible is under stronger genetic control, than is its size and vertical relationship to cranial base.”

Different parts will have different heritability estimates.

 

[Deleted member 6572]

Don't worry bro, if you didn't go weeks without food then you were not malnourished, being skinny as a kid is due to genetics and body type, you seem to be ectomorph which is all genetic.

I NEVER and I mean NEVER ate vegetables as a kid until age 11 tho did it ruin it for me? I ate a lot of meat and I mean a lot of meat growing up, but I heard veegetables being good was a myth anyways thoughts?

 

[imparatorluk]

A general rule for this kind of shit is 50/50. Mental illness & a bunch of other stuff is 50% genetic 50% environmental.

Why mental ilness effect bones ?

 

[W0KESTMOTHF]

STOP THE COPE BEFORE YOU PICK THE ROPE ITS ALL GENETICS YOUR LIFE IS DETERMINED IN THE WOMB IM THINKING JUST QUITING THIS SITE AND BECOMING BLUEPILLED NORMIE, YOU SHOULD TOO TBH