How much of your final adult appearance is environmental vs genetic

[Lux]

Why mental ilness effect bones ?

not really what I meant.

 

[Golang]

exactly. literally this. everyone wants to cope but this is the simple truth, no "b-but m-m-maybe i didnt have perfect tongue posture when i was 6 years old? i... i cant possibly have defective genetics!"

This is why I don't believe in most of what Kike Mew said (except for Mouth Breathing), my mom and dad mewed their whole life and always used their mouth to chew hard foods, and they both chinlets jfl, and then I who never mewed came out the same way.

 

[imparatorluk]

not really what I meant.

Sorry my fault

 

[Deleted member 6572]

STOP THE COPE BEFORE YOU PICK THE ROPE ITS ALL GENETICS YOUR LIFE IS DETERMINED IN THE WOMB IM THINKING JUST QUITING THIS SITE AND BECOMING BLUEPILLED NORMIE, YOU SHOULD TOO TBH

ive had that thought too tbh might've been better if we never learned the truth I the first place, and were able to not realize its out of control. We would've still had our sanity, now this shit will be in our minds forever no matter how hard we try to forget.

 

[W0KESTMOTHF]

This is why I don't believe in most of what Kike Mew said (except for Mouth Breathing), my mom and dad mewed their whole life and always used their mouth to chew hard foods, and they both chinlets jfl, and then I who never mewed came out the same way.

Mewing is good for fixing posture and raising hyoid thats it

 

[Deleted member 6572]

STOP THE COPE BEFORE YOU PICK THE ROPE ITS ALL GENETICS YOUR LIFE IS DETERMINED IN THE WOMB IM THINKING JUST QUITING THIS SITE AND BECOMING BLUEPILLED NORMIE, YOU SHOULD TOO TBH

environment copers are on suicide watch now, they missed their daily dose of antidepressants.

 

[Golang]

I NEVER and I mean NEVER ate vegetables as a kid until age 11 tho did it ruin it for me? I ate a lot of meat and I mean a lot of meat growing up, but I heard veegetables being good was a myth anyways thoughts?

Meat has a lot of nutrients, don't worry bro.

If not eating vegtables fucked you up, then humans wouldn't exist, since back in cavemen era, humans couldn't eat all types of foods and they still grew properly.

 

[Deleted member 6572]

Meat has a lot of nutrients, don't worry bro.

If not eating vegtables fucked you up, then humans wouldn't exist, since back in cavemen era, humans couldn't eat all types of foods and they still grew properly.

damn I really been mad over nothing then, I think these copes only make people angrier and angrier

 

[Golang]

Mewing is good for fixing posture and raising hyoid thats it

Yeah but a lot of Mew copers think that mewing would expand your maxilla and jaw, and make you have forward growth.

 

[Amnesia]

Both for sure but mostly genetic

 

[Deleted member 6572]

Yeah but a lot of Mew copers think that mewing would expand your maxilla and jaw, and make you have forward growth.

also I am really curious is facial bone growth over when the growth plates in the body close and puberty is over or will it continue past that?

 

[Vidyacoper]

This is why I don't believe in most of what Kike Mew said (except for Mouth Breathing), my mom and dad mewed their whole life and always used their mouth to chew hard foods, and they both chinlets jfl, and then I who never mewed came out the same way.

mike mew's father who's also an orthotropist once wrote about how mewing only potentially affects your face until like age 12 (even then its very minimal)
kike jew hides this as best as he can, and encourages everyone to mew and arrange a $200 per hour consultation with him and ofcourse he fucking even pushes mewing merchandise and clothing to make as much money as possible off of people's facial insecurities and false hope that they can change their subhumanity with their tongue.

jfl even facepulling at high intensity for 12 hours a day takes several YEARS mid puberty where your bones are more malleable to even show a few mms of results.
i feel bad for all the copers at r/orthotropics
if you look at the ones who post their pictures its all extremely recessed ogre tier subhumans
if only they were surgerypilled and understood they need jaw surgery

 

[Golang]

damn I really been mad over nothing then, I think these copes only make people angrier and angrier

It's mostly wishful thinking.

"If only I did this instead of this I would've been a Chad. No! I can't accept my subhumanity was already decided before I was born"
"I would've been a tall Chad if I injected T and HGH when I was young, DAMN IT!!!"

"If only, if only..."

The list goes on.

 

[W0KESTMOTHF]

ive had that thought too tbh might've been better if we never learned the truth I the first place, and were able to not realize its out of control. We would've still had our sanity, now this shit will be in our minds forever no matter how hard we try to forget.

we already know everything about looksmaxing it's best for us to leave this site and try to moneymaxx and get some surgeries that's the only non cope thing

 

[Deleted member 6572]

It's mostly wishful thinking.

"If only I did this instead of this I would've been a Chad. No! I can't accept my subhumanity was already decided before I was born"
"I would've been a tall Chad if I injected T and HGH when I was young, DAMN IT!!!"

"If only, if only..."

The list goes on.

The final nail in the coffin for environment copers is you don't have much control over your environment under the age of 18 too. Environment copers its over guys, you had good run while it lasted.

 

[Deleted member 6572]

we already know everything about looksmaxing it's best for us to leave this site and try to moneymaxx and get some surgeries that's the only non cope thing

very true but it is hard for alot of people to accept they will never be the gigachad they dreamed of.

 

[Vidyacoper]

It's mostly wishful thinking.

"If only I did this instead of this I would've been a Chad. No! I can't accept my subhumanity was already decided before I was born"
"I would've been a tall Chad if I injected T and HGH when I was young, DAMN IT!!!"

"If only, if only..."

The list goes on.

this is the best way anyone's ever put it, literally spot on

 

[AutisticBeaner]

but height is mainly genetic, dick size, voice, hairline, why would face be any different

first of all, how do you know that?

 

[Golang]

The final nail in the coffin for environment copers is you don't have much control over your environment under the age of 18 too. Environment copers its over guys, you had good run while it lasted.

Another proof that environment is cope is that natives and some African tribes which have a lifestyle that would be considered ideal in this website for proper facial growth, so in theory, they would be Giga High T Tall Alpha Chads and most MMs would be from there, right...?

jfl

 

[AutisticBeaner]

How do you explain richard ramirez shit childhood yet insane bone structure

do you know anything about this "theory of development" that's known on this site? all you need is being breastfed by your mum and a tough diet. your parents can be as much of a dick to you as they want, that shouldn't affect bone structure.

 

[Deleted member 6572]

first of all, how do you know that?

Studies prove it. Also if you think about it, it makes all too much sense that it has to be all genetics. Back in the neanderthal days only 1 man would reproduce for every 8 women. Nature created some people better and some worse to prevent overpopulation, and appearance signals reproductive fitness levels, so how would you be able to modify those levels to turn yourself into a chad, you can't modify your genetic blueprint.

 

[Deleted member 6572]

do you know anything about this "theory of development" that's known on this site? all you need is being breastfed by your mum and a tough diet. your parents can be as much of a dick to you as they want, that shouldn't affect bone structure.

he only ate candy and junk food his entire puberty though.

 

[Deleted member 6572]

Another proof that environment is cope is that natives and some African tribes which have a lifestyle that would be considered ideal in this website for proper facial growth, so in theory, they would be Giga High T Tall Alpha Chads and most MMs would be from there, right...?
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meanwhile Richard Ramirez did drugs all day, stayed up all night, and only ate junk food. Brutal truth for environment copers.

 

[W0KESTMOTHF]

meanwhile Richard Ramirez did drugs all day, stayed up all night, and only ate junk food. Brutal truth for environment copers.

Brutal shit

 

[Lev Peshkov]

Well if your environment is injecting hormines probably around 10% genes 90% environment

However if your environment is "Muh chewing" "Muh mewing" its 99.9% genetic

 

[Deleted member 6572]

Well if your environment is injecting hormines probably around 10% genes 90% environment

However if your environment is "Muh chewing" "Muh mewing" its defitely over

even injecting hormones its mostly genetic, mike mew is making money off delusional incels who don't want to accept that it was over at birth, and they were meant to not reproduce to prevent overpopulation.

 

[Lev Peshkov]

even injecting hormones its mostly genetic, mike mew is making money off delusional incels who don't want to accept that it was over at birth, and they were meant to not reproduce to prevent overpopulation.

I know man, with hormones tho it can change face dratically. I'm not even saying it will make you Chad. It will make you masc and perceived as handosme like top 85%

He'd be subhuman with low T and ofc genetic T he had but imagine if he didn't. He'd be browsing this forum.

Hormones are everything but genetics are the difference between good-looking and chad

 

[Deleted member 6572]

I know man, with hormones tho it can change face dratically. I'm not even saying it will make you Chad. It will make you masc and perceived as handosme like top 85%

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He'd be subhuman with low T and ofc genetic T he had but imagine if he didn't. He'd be browsing this forum.

Hormones are everything but genetics are the difference between good-looking and chad

it can change fat distribution and skin, but it won't change your bone structure which is what environment copers think will happen, you have a genetic blueprint that can't be modified, a Chihuahua won't ever look like a pitbull

 

[Lev Peshkov]

it can change fat distribution and skin, but it won't change your bone structure which is what environment copers think will happen, you have a genetic blueprint that can't be modified, a Chihuahua won't ever look like a pitbull

Indeed, mewing and other environment shit won't ever change ur bones.

High T or its OVER

T is genetic

 

[Inscol]

my head was shaved due to going to military school im not balding at all, here's some more pics.

Looks like Diego Sanchez

 

[Deleted member 6572]

Indeed, mewing and other environment shit won't ever change ur bones.

High T or its OVER

T is genetic

prenatal t Is literally fucking everything and digit ratios have been disproven. genetic blueprint is crafted in the face. With these 1 in a million models its the same as nba stars, I bet environment coper will day Michael Jordan is so tall due to good nutrition JFL

 

[Deleted member 6572]

Looks like Diego Sanchez
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[Lev Peshkov]

prenatal t Is literally fucking everything and digit ratios have been disproven. genetic blueprint is crafted in the face. With these 1 in a million models its the same as nba stars, I bet environment coper will day Michael Jordan is so tall due to good nutrition JFL

JFL indeed. Imagine think nutrients can change anything

 

[Golang]

it can change fat distribution and skin, but it won't change your bone structure which is what environment copers think will happen, you have a genetic blueprint that can't be modified, a Chihuahua won't ever look like a pitbull

Also, injecting T in your teen years can fuck you up even more. I'm pretty sure there is this teenage kid who's in on roids and he still looks like a birdcel. Also, I'm pretty sure there is a disease where teenagers have very high T and their skulls become fucked up, don't remember the name.

A lot of people think that if T can increase bone mass then it will make you a Chad, even though they forget that where and how much bone is created is decided by genes. More =/= better, the structure of the skull matter more than the mass of it. There are a lot of ogers with thick skulls who still look like ogers.

 

[Deleted member 6572]

JFL indeed. Imagine think nutrients can change anything

you gotta be really fucking malnourished to the point where your genes won't save you.

 

[Deleted member 6572]

Also, injecting T in your teen years can fuck you up even more. I'm pretty sure there is this teenage kid who's in on roids and he still looks like a birdcel. Also, I'm pretty sure there is a disease where teenagers have very high T and their skulls become fucked up, don't remember the name.

A lot of people think that if T can increase bone mass then it will make you a Chad, even though they forget that where and how much bone is created is decided by genes. More =/= better, the structure of the skull matter more than the mass of it. There are a lot of ogers with thick skulls who still look like ogers.

This should be the thread to end environment coping once and for all, I met this one kid who was schizophrenic and spent his teenage years in and out of mental asylums doped up on medication and still had great bone structure and have seen gymcels who look truecel.

 

[Lev Peshkov]

you gotta be really fucking malnourished to the point where your genes won't save you.

Look at the Sudanese. Average height of 6'3.
Nigger with no food or water

 

[AutisticBeaner]

Studies prove it. Also if you think about it, it makes all too much sense that it has to be all genetics. Back in the neanderthal days only 1 man would reproduce for every 8 women. Nature created some people better and some worse to prevent overpopulation, and appearance signals reproductive fitness levels, so how would you be able to modify those levels to turn yourself into a chad, you can't modify your genetic blueprint.

no, if you think about it it doesn't make any sense. because our ancestors have been around for millions of years bad features have died out long ago. now it's environment that's making everyone ugly. you know that there's a study where scientists put plastic pieces on the roof of the mouth of chimps so that their tongue couldn't be attached to the roof anymore. after some time they all turned into mouthbreathers and their faces got longer and longer. doesn't this fit perfectly?

 

[Deleted member 6572]

Look at the Sudanese. Average height of 6'3.
Nigger with no food or water

its easier for manlets to cope thinking that since they didn't get 8 hours of sleep overnight thats why they are 5'5. Like bro have you ever considered you had shit genes. One black kid in my school had a mom and dad exact same height as mine. 5'1 and 6'1. he was 5'3 at 17 while I am 5'11. Maybe I just slept better JFL

 

[AutisticBeaner]

he only ate candy and junk food his entire puberty though.

did you read what i said? tough diet. how do you know what he ate throughout all of his life anyway?

 

[Lev Peshkov]

its easier for manlets to cope thinking that since they didn't get 8 hours of sleep overnight thats why they are 5'5. Like bro have you ever considered you had shit genes. One black kid in my school had a mom and dad exact same height as mine. 5'1 and 6'1. he was 5'3 at 17 while I am 5'11. Maybe I just slept better JFL

Kek, ikr man

 

[Deleted member 6572]

no, if you think about it it doesn't make any sense. because our ancestors have been around for millions of years bad features have died out long ago. now it's environment that's making everyone ugly. you know that there's a study where scientists put plastic pieces on the roof of the mouth of chimps so that their tongue couldn't be attached to the roof anymore. after some time they all turned into mouthbreathers and their faces got longer and longer. doesn't this fit perfectly?

most of these studies are bullshit bro, your facial structure is determined in Womb, and mouthrbreathing is a jew meme cope created by a jew doctor, sure it may have some effect in early childhood if it is 24/7 but you can't even control that.

 

[Deleted member 6572]

did you read what i said? tough diet. how do you know what he ate throughout all of his life anyway?

I read the book about him, andall his personal acounts of his life, he moved out at age 13 to live with his sister and her husband, and he would drink coke and smoke weed all day long, and slept in cemeteries as a child to escape his fathers abuse.

 

[AutisticBeaner]

most of these studies are bullshit bro, your facial structure is determined in Womb, and mouthrbreathing is a jew meme cope created by a jew doctor, sure it may have some effect in early childhood if it is 24/7 but you can't even control that.

dude, you haven't brought a single decent argument to this discussion. why should i continue arguing with you?

 

[Deleted member 6572]

dude, you haven't brought a single decent argument to this discussion. why should i continue arguing with you?

I have brought many examples of why it is all genetic, if everyone could be somewhat good-looking there would be no way to prevent overpopulation by nature, some genes weren't meant to reproduce.

 

[AutisticBeaner]

I have brought many examples of why it is all genetic, if everyone could be somewhat good-looking there would be no way to prevent overpopulation by nature, some genes weren't meant to reproduce.

why would nature have a problem against overpopulation? nature just wants you to survive and to reproduce as much as possible. if there are too many humans then some will die of starvation or whatever. but why should nature care?

 

[Deleted member 6572]

why would nature have a problem against overpopulation? nature just wants you to survive and to reproduce as much as possible. if there are too many humans then some will die of starvation or whatever. but why should nature care?

Even in wolf packs for example their is alphas and betas and even lower. How would you explain that? The alpha wolf is just genetically superior.

 

[Deleted member 1588]

Its 90 percent genetics tbh lets take the example of me and my brother..
My dad was 5.4"ft tall in his prime mom is 5.2" or 5.3"ft i was anorexic during puberty literally ate less than 1200 calories a day and i weighed 100lbs or so at 18 years old.I am 5.8.5"ft tall in the morning height.

On the other hand my big brother was always super active during went to the gym from 15 ate super healthy and was always at a healthy weight you would think he would be a lot taller than me then wrong he is exactly one inch taller than me in height and slightly bigger frame than me like one inch max..

And before any copers say i lost one inch of my height due to being anorexic i did not lose shit since i was a very premature and small baby so it is to be expected that i would be a little smaller than my brother who was born at a healthy weight..
So i had the worst environment was born premature still mog my father 4 +inches in height since it was in my genes and also i mog my brother facially too...
Stop coping its 90 percent genetics and maybe 10% environment and that too if you had a really shitty environment like me

 

[AutisticBeaner]

Even in wolf packs for example their is alphas and betas and even lower. How would you explain that? The alpha wolf is just genetically superior.

we are not wolf packs, i don't know what determines who the alpha in a pack is. how about you try to refute my arguments instead of constantly coming up with new ones?

 

[Deleted member 6572]

Its 90 percent genetics tbh lets take the example of me and my brother..
My dad was 5.4"ft tall in his prime mom is 5.2" or 5.3"ft i was anorexic during puberty literally ate less than 1200 calories a day and i weighed 100lbs or so at 18 years old.I am 5.8.5"ft tall in the morning height.

On the other hand my big brother was always super active during went to the gym from 15 ate super healthy and was always at a healthy weight you would think he would be a lot taller than me then wrong he is exactly one inch taller than me in height and slightly bigger frame than me like one inch max..

And before any copers say i lost one inch of my height due to being anorexic i did not lose shit since i was a very premature and small baby so it is to be expected that i would be a little smaller than my brother who was born at a healthy weight..
So i had the worst environment was born premature still mog my father 4 +inches in height since it was in my genes and also i mog my brother facially too...
Stop coping its 90 percent genetics and maybe 10% environment and that too if you had a really shitty environment like me

Very legit, but that 10 percent environment would only be effected if it it was really fucking bad right? copers he are saying because they got a little less sleep thats why they are subhuman now, and they were stressed out as kids JFL