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kramer

kramer

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Twig body(last pic for ref, hoping to just get jacked to halo enough)

(Been here for a while, finally decided it was time to show thyself , and to get honest opinions from peers, To see what you guys think)
 

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It'll be harder, but it's definitely not bad enough where it's over.
 
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Normie.

If you have low enough standards, you can get laid, even through online dating.

Also, it's normal to be rated as normie since that is where most men are, me included, except that I have good height on my side and a few good features but I'm still seen as normie, because I don't look special like Timothée Chalamet or Henry Cavill, I don't have the hollywood actor aesthetics of the face but I'm not extremely ugly either.

Try not to compare yourself to people online but instead compare yourself to the average person that you see on the street.
I can guarantee you that there are lots of women who would be interested in you, it's just that they aren't nearly as hot as the women you see in porn or in hollywood movies, and they may even be overweight but in my opinion, it's better to have that than nothing at all (and I'm not saying you should aim for those who are obese, but simply that you should keep your standards low and give more women a chance to date you).

The normies who have the most success are those who are wise enough to have low beauty standards for dating women, because they know that they are not hot enough to be picky. The only normies who can have sex with the hottest women are those who pay for prostitutes or are rich.

If you're from a first world country, you can sort of get a similar effect if you travel to Russia or Ukraine, money and status alone can get you laid with model tier women as a normie, but back home, you're going to attract mostly normie women and below average women, even if you improve your looks, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing.
 
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it is finished my friend
low tier normie
 
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Normie.

If you have low enough standards, you can get laid, even through online dating.

Also, it's normal to be rated as normie since that is where most men are, me included, except that I have good height on my side and a few good features but I'm still seen as normie, because I don't look special like Timothée Chalamet or Henry Cavill, I don't have the hollywood actor aesthetics of the face but I'm not extremely ugly either.

Try not to compare yourself to people online but instead compare yourself to the average person that you see on the street.
I can guarantee you that there are lots of women who would be interested in you, it's just that they aren't nearly as hot as the women you see in porn or in hollywood movies, and they may even be overweight but in my opinion, it's better to have that than nothing at all (and I'm not saying you should aim for those who are obese, but simply that you should keep your standards low and give more women a chance to date you).

The normies who have the most success are those who are wise enough to have low beauty standards for dating women, because they know that they are not hot enough to be picky. The only normies who can have sex with the hottest women are those who pay for prostitutes or are rich.

If you're from a first world country, you can sort of get a similar effect if you travel to Russia or Ukraine, money and status alone can get you laid with model tier women as a normie, but back home, you're going to attract mostly normie women and below average women, even if you improve your looks, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing.
thanks, a normie rating is actually good to me lol

because i figured this:
it is finished my friend
low tier normie

i do occasionally have sex and accepted it by fucking whales, but occasionally able to get a slightly below average girl.
just have to spam statusmaxxing as a normie i suppose
 
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Your falios

-Long midface
-Cuck eyes
-Downward grown mandible
-Nasiolabial folds with heavy maxillary recession
-Recessed chin
-Small mouth
-404 Browridge
-Flat cheekbones
-High round hairline

Overall LTN. Try wearing lifts and gymax as much as u can. If you want surgeries. A bimax with maxillary impaction /upgraft would be a good start.
 
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Your falios

-Long midface
-Cuck eyes
-Downward grown mandible
-Nasiolabial folds with heavy maxillary recession
-Recessed chin
-Small mouth
-404 Browridge
-Flat cheekbones
-High round hairline

Overall LTN. Try wearing lifts and gymax as much as u can. If you want surgeries. A bimax with maxillary impaction /upgraft would be a good start.

thanks this is very helpful
do you think i can just mse or bimax is necessary to be normie
 
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I mog all of you. Im just skinny and framelet right now
I'm kind of the same, however being skinny doesn't matter for me and models are supposed to be skinny, so DONT CARE.
 
thanks this is very helpful
do you think i can just mse or bimax is necessary to be normie
Bimax+roids+contacts+ jaw fillers and ur good.
 
Brutal cranium ngl. You have melted face. Definitely need a bimax

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yea my skull is the text book definition of gay alien skull

or just rope cause im fucked, the surgeon will have to do extreme measures to make me look decent, fuck :feelswhy::redpill:
you have 0 forward growth :cry:
 
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5/10, you could slay if you have interesting personality irl, you pass looks threshold and after only nt matters
 
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it is finished my friend
low tier normie
Brutal cranium ngl. You have melted face. Definitely need a bimax

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ROFL? :ROFLMAO:

He is just very lean. His face is NOT recessed MEDICALLY speaking. He just lost f**ing fat from his cheeks, which is normal for a low-BF dude without prominent cheekbones.

As i c it, most people on this forum are fat/overweight...so few people under 12%, and can't even diagnose OP (means that none of the commenters are themselves <12%).

OP do fillers in chin, AND MEDIAL CHEEK. It will remove your sunken face. Or get fat back to 15%.

Also, 6-6.5/10. Why? Because of the body halo. And your face has good harmony. Midface length fucked you up a little, but you re definitely above average. Still, due to your physique, and ok face, you will have A LOT of women, you just need to get them in the right places: beach, dancing classes, night clubs, etc. - places where you can demonstrate your body.:redpill:
 
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ROFL? :ROFLMAO:

He is just very lean. His face is NOT recessed MEDICALLY speaking. He just lost f**ing fat from his cheeks, which is normal for a low-BF dude without prominent cheekbones.

As i c it, most people on this forum are fat/overweight...so few people under 12%, and can't even diagnose OP (means that none of the commenters are themselves <12%).

OP do fillers in chin, AND MEDIAL CHEEK. It will remove your sunken face. Or get fat back to 15%.

Also, 6-6.5/10. Why? Because of the body halo. And your face has good harmony. Midface length fucked you up a little, but you re definitely above average. Still, due to your physique, and ok face, you will have A LOT of women, you just need to get them in the right places: beach, dancing classes, night clubs, etc. - places where you can demonstrate your body.:redpill:
please be trolling
 
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over. low tier normie , approaching incel. 0 angularity 0 dimorphism too short. focus on career drugs and escorts
 
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Your falios

-Long midface
-Cuck eyes
-Downward grown mandible
-Nasiolabial folds with heavy maxillary recession
-Recessed chin
-Small mouth
-404 Browridge
-Flat cheekbones
-High round hairline

Overall LTN. Try wearing lifts and gymax as much as u can. If you want surgeries. A bimax with maxillary impaction /upgraft would be a good start.

+ Long midface - true. Impossible to fix. 2nd biggest failo.
+/- Cuck eyes - very slightly, almost normal so minimal failo.
+ Downward mandible - true.
- Nasiolabial folds with heavy maxillary recession - HE DOES NOT HAVE ANY MAXILLARY RECESSION. PROVE.
- Recessed chin - HE DOES NOT HAVE RECESSED CHIN. PROVE.
- Small mouth - HIS MOUTH IS NOT SMALL. How did you decide this?
+/- 404 Browridge - WEAK but NOT 404
+ Flat cheekbones - this is his biggest FAILO, which resulted in his nasolabial folds when losing weight. NOT recessed maxilla, which he does not have.
-High round hairline - DA FUCK? Rounded, but NOT HIGH. With his face, it is in perfect proportion to his lower third.

Well, you have your opinions. But I am really interested HOW you came up with the statements I marked with "-"? ^ :unsure:

Try wearing lifts and gymax...

He already has a body that is better than probably 95+% of this site visitors though... :unsure:
 
please be trolling
Nah, sry not trolling :p

I personally find his face average, and body way above average.
His face is definitely NOT low-normie (4/10). Even though he has quite big failos (e.g. midface), his face still looks good overall somehow (good like 5-5.5/10).
But due to his really good body, his overall looks to be 6-6.5/10, not psl.
 
+ Long midface - true. Impossible to fix. 2nd biggest failo.
+/- Cuck eyes - very slightly, almost normal so minimal failo.
+ Downward mandible - true.
- Nasiolabial folds with heavy maxillary recession - HE DOES NOT HAVE ANY MAXILLARY RECESSION. PROVE.
- Recessed chin - HE DOES NOT HAVE RECESSED CHIN. PROVE.
- Small mouth - HIS MOUTH IS NOT SMALL. How did you decide this?
+/- 404 Browridge - WEAK but NOT 404
+ Flat cheekbones - this is his biggest FAILO, which resulted in his nasolabial folds when losing weight. NOT recessed maxilla, which he does not have.
-High round hairline - DA FUCK? Rounded, but NOT HIGH. With his face, it is in perfect proportion to his lower third.

Well, you have your opinions. But I am really interested HOW you came up with the statements I marked with "-"? ^ :unsure:



He already has a body that is better than probably 95+% of this site visitors though... :unsure:
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Wont waste my time arguing with u but he has nasiolabial folds his maxilla is recessed. Maybe not medically recessed but aesthetically. Just because something is normal doesn't mean it's desirable. According to WebCeph. That chad I posted has Skeletal Class II with a protruded maxilla, a protruded mandible, and a protruded chin.

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Wont waste my time arguing with u but he has nasiolabial folds his maxilla is recessed. Maybe not medically recessed but aesthetically. Just because something is normal doesn't mean it's desirable. According to WebCeph. That chad I posted has Skeletal Class II with a protruded maxilla, a protruded mandible, and a protruded chin.

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ops maxilla is as forward grown as the Titanic
 
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Never started in the first place.
 
as over as the Titanic on 15/04/1912 at 2:19 am
 
Under developed face and much uee probably over

But you can ascend hard with less uee and better jaw

Your eyes really good just uee pissing off
 
To me now you are not ltn but incel.is tier, too many failos tbh. You can still do some surgery to ascend, I think that you need oculoplasty with cantho, uee fat grafts and infra implants( i think you might have negative orbital vector) to have a less cuck eye area and then ccw bimax and cheekbones implants. Use minoxidil on your eyebrows too, apply castor oil on your lashes and start a skincare routine, I don't know if you drink or smoke but your skin could be much better with more collagen. What's your bf? That plays a role too but you are downward grown and you alsi lack cheekbones so even at 12% your bones won't be able to stretch the skin properly. I wish you good luck in this journey buddy.
 
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+ Long midface - true. Impossible to fix. 2nd biggest failo.
+/- Cuck eyes - very slightly, almost normal so minimal failo.
+ Downward mandible - true.
- Nasiolabial folds with heavy maxillary recession - HE DOES NOT HAVE ANY MAXILLARY RECESSION. PROVE.
- Recessed chin - HE DOES NOT HAVE RECESSED CHIN. PROVE.
- Small mouth - HIS MOUTH IS NOT SMALL. How did you decide this?
+/- 404 Browridge - WEAK but NOT 404
+ Flat cheekbones - this is his biggest FAILO, which resulted in his nasolabial folds when losing weight. NOT recessed maxilla, which he does not have.
-High round hairline - DA FUCK? Rounded, but NOT HIGH. With his face, it is in perfect proportion to his lower third.

Well, you have your opinions. But I am really interested HOW you came up with the statements I marked with "-"? ^ :unsure:



He already has a body that is better than probably 95+% of this site visitors though... :unsure:
His chin is just weak
 
Typical ccw bimax candidate. You will ascend hard
 
25,
5”8
Twig body(last pic for ref, hoping to just get jacked to halo enough)

(Been here for a while, finally decided it was time to show thyself , and to get honest opinions from peers, To see what you guys think)
Yeah you're pretty finished bro. I wouldn't say it's over at all, looksmaxxing 24/7 and who knows what can happen. I've seen insane looksmax transformation so give it a try.
 
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U kinda look hapa. U should seamaxx
 
To me now you are not ltn but incel.is tier, too many failos tbh. You can still do some surgery to ascend, I think that you need oculoplasty with cantho, uee fat grafts and infra implants( i think you might have negative orbital vector) to have a less cuck eye area and then ccw bimax and cheekbones implants. Use minoxidil on your eyebrows too, apply castor oil on your lashes and start a skincare routine, I don't know if you drink or smoke but your skin could be much better with more collagen. What's your bf? That plays a role too but you are downward grown and you alsi lack cheekbones so even at 12% your bones won't be able to stretch the skin properly. I wish you good luck in this journey buddy.
how can you tell if he’s collagen is bad or good
 
Don't put minox on eyebrows. Latanoprost has been proven to burn orbital facial fat, I wouldn't risk it with minoxidil
 
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U kinda look hapa. U should seamaxx
half italian half viet :feelswat:

To me now you are not ltn but incel.is tier, too many failos tbh. You can still do some surgery to ascend, I think that you need oculoplasty with cantho, uee fat grafts and infra implants( i think you might have negative orbital vector) to have a less cuck eye area and then ccw bimax and cheekbones implants. Use minoxidil on your eyebrows too, apply castor oil on your lashes and start a skincare routine, I don't know if you drink or smoke but your skin could be much better with more collagen. What's your bf? That plays a role too but you are downward grown and you alsi lack cheekbones so even at 12% your bones won't be able to stretch the skin properly. I wish you good luck in this journey buddy.
i dont do either besides weed, i had insane cystic/fungal acne for a while, my bf is around 10%, i have huge trouble of putting on weight, thank you friend, i wish you the same
Typical ccw bimax candidate. You will ascend hard
thank you i will add it to the long list, first i will sarpe to get better arch then go for that, first i must career max for income
 
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It is not finished. You dont look bad at all, just normal looking nothing striking imo. MTN imo u can bag some bitches (not highest quality but at least not incel)
 
ltn face

anyone rating you higher is retarded.. no offense

youre like 3.5-4 out of ten
 

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