How the fuck to get better collagen/skin quality (After accutane)

[alphaChadpeasant911]

Finally off accutane again but it made my skin dry asf and destroyed collagen now my face looks wrinkled as af the texture looks so bad with pores and shit everywhere i look 20 years older than i am


how to fix?

 

[Deleted member 6963]

Finally off accutane again but it made my skin dry asf and destroyed collagen now my face looks wrinkled as af the texture looks so bad with pores and shit everywhere i look 20 years older than i am


how to fix?

Lots of moisturizer, your moisture barrier is probably damaged. You can use Aquaphor as a moisturizer before going to bed or use it over your moisturizer.

 

[Deleted member 12002]

Finally off accutane again but it made my skin dry asf and destroyed collagen now my face looks wrinkled as af the texture looks so bad with pores and shit everywhere i look 20 years older than i am


how to fix?

You know what? I don"t like how you used the F word in the title of your thread.

 

[alphaChadpeasant911]

Lots of moisturizer, your moisture barrier is probably damaged. You can use Aquaphor as a moisturizer before going to bed or use it over your moisturizer.

I can't use moisturizer if i use it i break out

 

[alphaChadpeasant911]

You know what? I don"t like how you used the F word in the title of your thread.

sorry im just pissed cos i have no more acne but my face still looks like shit LOL

 

[Deleted member 9890]

how old are you?

 

[Deleted member 9890]

you'll want to be hydrating your skin AND moisturzing

 

[Deleted member 9890]

Hydrate with Hylauronic acid

Moisturize with tallow / squalane oil

 

[dnrd]

i need help w this too tbh

 

[alphaChadpeasant911]

how old are you?

19

 

[Deleted member 9890]

19

over for you prime is 15 - 18

just rot

 

[Deleted member 9890]

just kidding- yeah just moisturize boyo

same thing happens with me and benzoyl peroxide

 

[Deleted member 6785]

You know what? I don"t like how you used the F word in the title of your thread.

Who gives a fuck other than you?

sorry im just pissed cos i have no more acne but my face still looks like shit LOL

Don't be sorry, you are allowed to be pissed.

 

[Deleted member 6785]

Look into tretinoin. It is god tier for collagen + acne.

 

[ApolloAurius]

- peeling
- raw foods
- an good diet with much vitamins
- colagen supplement
- evitar inflamações
- dieta anti-inflamatória
boa sorte

 

[alphaChadpeasant911]

My skin literally looks like this bruh

 

[alphaChadpeasant911]

Look into tretinoin. It is god tier for collagen + acne.

I can't use that yet i think as i just got off accutane

 

[kalefartbomb]

If you care about your skin don't use anabolic steroids, don't drink or smoke, don't "party" with rec drugs every weekend. Do not eat too many vegetables, a little is ok but they do inhibit mineral absorption. Don't eat grains at all, no bread no pasta. Bottled water should be your primary drink. It's pointless to pick out one or two nutrients in which people are commonly deficient because honestly everyone is deficient in almost everything. The worst defiencies in the case of skin are complete amino acids, vitamin A and zinc. Vit A and zinc being relevant since they mediate cell division which is vital for many processes like skin repair and other things ( like immune function).

Collagen has quite a few precursors but the most critical are glycine and hydroxyproline, which can be obtained from animal connective tissues but also metabolised from the amino acid proline with vitamin C. Glucose competes with vitamin C at the receptor level, as such high carb diets will increase the amount of vitamin C required for this metabolism (this is why vitamin C requirements are much higher for sailors eating biscuits than for inuits eating zero carbs). So the ideal strategy is to eat an appropriate amount of animal tissue for its hydroxyproline while keeping carbs down. Note muscle meat contains very little hydroxyproline, your best bet is eating something like minced red meat or any sinewy meat.

Vitamin A is only found in certain animal foods like fish, dairy, eggs and liver, with the common theme being that higher source quality = higher vitamin A. Beta carotene is not vitamin A and metabolises to vitamin A at an absurdly poor rate. Zinc is one mineral most strongly affected by anti-nutrients which can inhibit it's absorption completely (calcium being another one). Just one tortilla wrap is enough to completely nullify the zinc content of its fillings. The modern hysteria about zinc supplementation is really a lack of awareness about anti-nutrients. You can supplement all the zinc you want but if it is all inhibited it is useless.

Glycine and proline are found in about twice the amount per gram of protein from animal sources than plants, and that before factoring in bioavailability, so in reality it is probably much higher. The best sources being meat and dairy. I would avoid dairy unless you have access to high quality raw sources (hard to find outside Europe or Asia).

Regarding sun, ideally we should expose the skin to sunlight frequently enough that it can tolerate exposure without burning but not so frequently that damage is accumulated before it has a chance to repair. The most dangerous thing you can do for your skin is to be a hermit all year and then go outside for 15 mins in summer and turn red. The body is repairing damage to skin all the time, it is completely normal, what is unhealthy is inhibiting these repair processes via drugs and malnutrition. Make sure you are getting sun exposure regularly in tolerable doses throughout the year, avoid extreme behaviour like either hermit UV avoidance, or hardcore sunbathing sessions.

 

[Deleted member 12002]

Who gives a fuck other than you?

I didn't say anybody did.

 

[Deleted member 6785]

I didn't say anybody did.

You just said you didn't like how he used the F word in his title? Mutt.

 

[Deleted member 12002]

You just said you didn't like how he used the F word in his title? Mutt.

No, dummy, I meant I never said anybody else cares.

 

[bugeye]

For dry skin use: hyaluronic acid, panthenol, ceramides, peptides, cholesterol based moisturizer. Any of these don't usually cause break-outs.

 

[bruhcel]

I can't use moisturizer if i use it i break out

get a light moisturizer like a gel or something

 

[Deleted member 12216]

If you care about your skin don't use anabolic steroids, don't drink or smoke, don't "party" with rec drugs every weekend. Do not eat too many vegetables, a little is ok but they do inhibit mineral absorption. Don't eat grains at all, no bread no pasta. Bottled water should be your primary drink. It's pointless to pick out one or two nutrients in which people are commonly deficient because honestly everyone is deficient in almost everything. The worst defiencies in the case of skin are complete amino acids, vitamin A and zinc. Vit A and zinc being relevant since they mediate cell division which is vital for many processes like skin repair and other things ( like immune function).

Collagen has quite a few precursors but the most critical are glycine and hydroxyproline, which can be obtained from animal connective tissues but also metabolised from the amino acid proline with vitamin C. Glucose competes with vitamin C at the receptor level, as such high carb diets will increase the amount of vitamin C required for this metabolism (this is why vitamin C requirements are much higher for sailors eating biscuits than for inuits eating zero carbs). So the ideal strategy is to eat an appropriate amount of animal tissue for its hydroxyproline while keeping carbs down. Note muscle meat contains very little hydroxyproline, your best bet is eating something like minced red meat or any sinewy meat.

Vitamin A is only found in certain animal foods like fish, dairy, eggs and liver, with the common theme being that higher source quality = higher vitamin A. Beta carotene is not vitamin A and metabolises to vitamin A at an absurdly poor rate. Zinc is one mineral most strongly affected by anti-nutrients which can inhibit it's absorption completely (calcium being another one). Just one tortilla wrap is enough to completely nullify the zinc content of its fillings. The modern hysteria about zinc supplementation is really a lack of awareness about anti-nutrients. You can supplement all the zinc you want but if it is all inhibited it is useless.

Glycine and proline are found in about twice the amount per gram of protein from animal sources than plants, and that before factoring in bioavailability, so in reality it is probably much higher. The best sources being meat and dairy. I would avoid dairy unless you have access to high quality raw sources (hard to find outside Europe or Asia).

Regarding sun, ideally we should expose the skin to sunlight frequently enough that it can tolerate exposure without burning but not so frequently that damage is accumulated before it has a chance to repair. The most dangerous thing you can do for your skin is to be a hermit all year and then go outside for 15 mins in summer and turn red. The body is repairing damage to skin all the time, it is completely normal, what is unhealthy is inhibiting these repair processes via drugs and malnutrition. Make sure you are getting sun exposure regularly in tolerable doses throughout the year, avoid extreme behaviour like either hermit UV avoidance, or hardcore sunbathing sessions.

I am eating like that for 2 years and my skin only got worse and worse. I was like I NEED MORE LIVER, MORE EGGS, MORE RAW BUTTER and my skin is an absolute mess. Before, when I ate a lot of junk it was good. Fuck my life.

 

[LocalDanger]

If you care about your skin don't use anabolic steroids, don't drink or smoke, don't "party" with rec drugs every weekend. Do not eat too many vegetables, a little is ok but they do inhibit mineral absorption. Don't eat grains at all, no bread no pasta. Bottled water should be your primary drink. It's pointless to pick out one or two nutrients in which people are commonly deficient because honestly everyone is deficient in almost everything. The worst defiencies in the case of skin are complete amino acids, vitamin A and zinc. Vit A and zinc being relevant since they mediate cell division which is vital for many processes like skin repair and other things ( like immune function).

Collagen has quite a few precursors but the most critical are glycine and hydroxyproline, which can be obtained from animal connective tissues but also metabolised from the amino acid proline with vitamin C. Glucose competes with vitamin C at the receptor level, as such high carb diets will increase the amount of vitamin C required for this metabolism (this is why vitamin C requirements are much higher for sailors eating biscuits than for inuits eating zero carbs). So the ideal strategy is to eat an appropriate amount of animal tissue for its hydroxyproline while keeping carbs down. Note muscle meat contains very little hydroxyproline, your best bet is eating something like minced red meat or any sinewy meat.

Vitamin A is only found in certain animal foods like fish, dairy, eggs and liver, with the common theme being that higher source quality = higher vitamin A. Beta carotene is not vitamin A and metabolises to vitamin A at an absurdly poor rate. Zinc is one mineral most strongly affected by anti-nutrients which can inhibit it's absorption completely (calcium being another one). Just one tortilla wrap is enough to completely nullify the zinc content of its fillings. The modern hysteria about zinc supplementation is really a lack of awareness about anti-nutrients. You can supplement all the zinc you want but if it is all inhibited it is useless.

Glycine and proline are found in about twice the amount per gram of protein from animal sources than plants, and that before factoring in bioavailability, so in reality it is probably much higher. The best sources being meat and dairy. I would avoid dairy unless you have access to high quality raw sources (hard to find outside Europe or Asia).

Regarding sun, ideally we should expose the skin to sunlight frequently enough that it can tolerate exposure without burning but not so frequently that damage is accumulated before it has a chance to repair. The most dangerous thing you can do for your skin is to be a hermit all year and then go outside for 15 mins in summer and turn red. The body is repairing damage to skin all the time, it is completely normal, what is unhealthy is inhibiting these repair processes via drugs and malnutrition. Make sure you are getting sun exposure regularly in tolerable doses throughout the year, avoid extreme behaviour like either hermit UV avoidance, or hardcore sunbathing sessions.

Hey bro awesome post thanks for explaining in detail.

What about cooked oats for example are they bad Because they are grains or are they fine since they are not like bread and stuff especially cooked?

And if you have lactose intolerance is lactose free milk fine?

 

[AscendingHero]

If you care about your skin don't use anabolic steroids, don't drink or smoke, don't "party" with rec drugs every weekend. Do not eat too many vegetables, a little is ok but they do inhibit mineral absorption. Don't eat grains at all, no bread no pasta. Bottled water should be your primary drink. It's pointless to pick out one or two nutrients in which people are commonly deficient because honestly everyone is deficient in almost everything. The worst defiencies in the case of skin are complete amino acids, vitamin A and zinc. Vit A and zinc being relevant since they mediate cell division which is vital for many processes like skin repair and other things ( like immune function).

Collagen has quite a few precursors but the most critical are glycine and hydroxyproline, which can be obtained from animal connective tissues but also metabolised from the amino acid proline with vitamin C. Glucose competes with vitamin C at the receptor level, as such high carb diets will increase the amount of vitamin C required for this metabolism (this is why vitamin C requirements are much higher for sailors eating biscuits than for inuits eating zero carbs). So the ideal strategy is to eat an appropriate amount of animal tissue for its hydroxyproline while keeping carbs down. Note muscle meat contains very little hydroxyproline, your best bet is eating something like minced red meat or any sinewy meat.

Vitamin A is only found in certain animal foods like fish, dairy, eggs and liver, with the common theme being that higher source quality = higher vitamin A. Beta carotene is not vitamin A and metabolises to vitamin A at an absurdly poor rate. Zinc is one mineral most strongly affected by anti-nutrients which can inhibit it's absorption completely (calcium being another one). Just one tortilla wrap is enough to completely nullify the zinc content of its fillings. The modern hysteria about zinc supplementation is really a lack of awareness about anti-nutrients. You can supplement all the zinc you want but if it is all inhibited it is useless.

Glycine and proline are found in about twice the amount per gram of protein from animal sources than plants, and that before factoring in bioavailability, so in reality it is probably much higher. The best sources being meat and dairy. I would avoid dairy unless you have access to high quality raw sources (hard to find outside Europe or Asia).

Regarding sun, ideally we should expose the skin to sunlight frequently enough that it can tolerate exposure without burning but not so frequently that damage is accumulated before it has a chance to repair. The most dangerous thing you can do for your skin is to be a hermit all year and then go outside for 15 mins in summer and turn red. The body is repairing damage to skin all the time, it is completely normal, what is unhealthy is inhibiting these repair processes via drugs and malnutrition. Make sure you are getting sun exposure regularly in tolerable doses throughout the year, avoid extreme behaviour like either hermit UV avoidance, or hardcore sunbathing sessions.

Banger after fucking banger of posts, i cant believe we have users like this arond or used to be more around frequently and they're not as highlighted compared to shitposters

@alienmaxxer.

Regarding sun, ideally we should expose the skin to sunlight frequently enough that it can tolerate exposure without burning but not so frequently that damage is accumulated before it has a chance to repair. The most dangerous thing you can do for your skin is to be a hermit all year and then go outside for 15 mins in summer and turn red. The body is repairing damage to skin all the time, it is completely normal, what is unhealthy is inhibiting these repair processes via drugs and malnutrition. Make sure you are getting sun exposure regularly in tolerable doses throughout the year, avoid extreme behaviour like either hermit UV avoidance, or hardcore sunbathing sessions.

how can i induce this, health and looksmaxxing from the sun whilst also skin lightening (fitz 3.5-4 being my goal)

 

[Deleted member 16834]

Banger after fucking banger of posts, i cant believe we have users like this arond or used to be more around frequently and they're not as highlighted compared to shitposters

@alienmaxxer.


how can i induce this, health and looksmaxxing from the sun whilst also skin lightening (fitz 3.5-4 being my goal)

Sun is goated for less than 15 minutes. Early dawn right before the actual sunrise gives all the vitamin d you need.

Spf 50 p+++ for all other times under the sun
Eat more gelatinous cuts of meat like bone marrow etc for glycine or Great Lakes collagen supplement is goated too
Make sure you’re getting enough zinc bc water and such is full copper which competes with zinc absorption
Vitamin a from retin-a is MORE than enough. Make sure to not do a high vitamin a diet while also rubbing shit ton of retin a
Also skinmaxx and whitening max

 

[AscendingHero]

Sun is goated for less than 15 minutes. Early dawn right before the actual sunrise gives all the vitamin d you need.

Spf 50 p+++ for all other times under the sun
Eat more gelatinous cuts of meat like bone marrow etc for glycine or Great Lakes collagen supplement is goated too
Make sure you’re getting enough zinc bc water and such is full copper which competes with zinc absorption
Vitamin a from retin-a is MORE than enough. Make sure to not do a high vitamin a diet while also rubbing shit ton of retin a
Also skinmaxx and whitening max

I'll do this

Also it seems sunmaxxing after dawn is good too.

hopefully i can moderately tan once i lighten enough.

Sun is goated for less than 15 minutes. Early dawn right before the actual sunrise gives all the vitamin d you need.

Spf 50 p+++ for all other times under the sun
Eat more gelatinous cuts of meat like bone marrow etc for glycine or Great Lakes collagen supplement is goated too
Make sure you’re getting enough zinc bc water and such is full copper which competes with zinc absorption
Vitamin a from retin-a is MORE than enough. Make sure to not do a high vitamin a diet while also rubbing shit ton of retin a
Also skinmaxx and whitening max

Good post I had the exact same thinking in mind although than i was probably going to overdo it with the vitamin a, eating hella organ meats like liver combined with retin a.

 

[rinkendinken]

How long does it take to fix a collagen issue with lots og moisturizer and hyaluronic acid for a teen? Cus my collagen is shit for being a teen but I recently started treating it

 

[debuff]

Apart from diet etc, some actionable treatments you can do are use tretinoin and microneedle

Tret + microneedling for god-tier skin and collagenmaxxing

Why tret + microneedling? Simply put, it's insanely cheap and effective compared to other solutions. Clinical laser/needling/peels are retardedly expensive. Anybody with $100 can do this treatment. Others have gone into depth on how tretinoin and microneedling can rapidly accelerate cell...

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