How to ascend (hard max and soft max)

[bigbenis4]

Growth plates still open, I’m 6”4 with wide clavicles, and I’d be fine with both soft maxing and hard maxing options.

 

[IrishSlayer1483]

Growth plates still open, I’m 6”4 with wide clavicles, and I’d be fine with both soft maxing and hard maxing options.View attachment 3956925

these things in order. peptides for bones. rhino for nose tip. lefort for midface . lip lift for philtrum. then implants to make your skull ideal

 

[bigbenis4]

Sounds good, I’m saving money til I’m 18 then just surgery max

 

[HighIQ ubermensch]

these things in order. peptides for bones. rhino for nose tip. lefort for midface . lip lift for philtrum. then implants to make your skull ideal

nothing for his eyes?

 

[IrishSlayer1483]

nothing for his eyes?

thats what the implants are for. high set zygos give pct. browridge can be done to be high trust and masculine (ideal)

 

[bigbenis4]

thats what the implants are for. high set zygos give pct. browridge can be done to be high trust and masculine (ideal)

Should I consider anything besides peptides before I turn 18 and surgery? Like HGH, test, etc.

 

[bigbenis4]

these things in order. peptides for bones. rhino for nose tip. lefort for midface . lip lift for philtrum. then implants to make your skull ideal

And which lefort surgery

 

[frxfrxfrx]

Growth plates still open, I’m 6”4 with wide clavicles, and I’d be fine with both soft maxing and hard maxing options.View attachment 3956925

canthoplasty

 

[frxfrxfrx]

Growth plates still open, I’m 6”4 with wide clavicles, and I’d be fine with both soft maxing and hard maxing options.View attachment 3956925

very low bonemass but not bad potential overall, you are blessed w height and clavicules, I wish I was you

 

[frxfrxfrx]

Growth plates still open, I’m 6”4 with wide clavicles, and I’d be fine with both soft maxing and hard maxing options.View attachment 3956925

how old are you btw

 

[bigbenis4]

how old are you btw

Turned 17 2 week ago

 

[svarddre]

these things in order. peptides for bones. rhino for nose tip. lefort for midface . lip lift for philtrum. then implants to make your skull ideal

Nothing burger. He won’t do shit

 

[bigbenis4]

Nothing burger. He won’t do shit

Family is pretty wealthy and I’m making 20/hr myself. Money is definitely not a problem.

 

[svarddre]

Family is pretty wealthy and I’m making 20/hr myself. Money is definitely not a problem.

How old are you

 

[bigbenis4]

How old are you

Turned 17 2 week ago

 

[svarddre]

Turned 17 2 week ago

Holy baby face

 

[bigbenis4]

Holy baby face

My grandpa and whole mother family had a very late puberty and growth plates didn’t close til like 20. It’s genetic

 

[LegendaryKennen]

Sounds good, I’m saving money til I’m 18 then just surgery max

start earlier with peptides

 

[bigbenis4]

start earlier with peptides

Why not HGH and a low dose test cycle

 

[IrishSlayer1483]

Nothing burger. He won’t do shit

yeah it usually turns out like this. maybe this is an exception case

 

[IrishSlayer1483]

Should I consider anything besides peptides before I turn 18 and surgery? Like HGH, test, etc.

hgh is your best bet

 

[IrishSlayer1483]

And which lefort surgery

either 1 or 2 id need to see the side to determine which

 

[bigbenis4]

 

[bigbenis4]

hgh is your best bet

Got it, I already have a source so I’ll take asap. I just need to figure out a dosing plan.

 

[bigbenis4]

either 1 or 2 id need to see the side to determine which

Which one based on pic, also can you give a more in depth explanation on each surgery I should do

 

[LegendaryKennen]

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man look at ur neck ur bf% is higher than it should be, u know u will produce less hormones when u have excess bf% right - hormones which u need to ascend lol

 

[bigbenis4]

Yeah ik, but I’ve been maintaining cause It’s prob the best route since cutting during puberty is a bad idea

 

[slaters]

Growth plates still open, I’m 6”4 with wide clavicles, and I’d be fine with both soft maxing and hard maxing options.View attachment 3956925

A Trimax is definitely needed but with your frame there’s a lot of potential

 

[bigbenis4]

What should be my first route of action

 

[bigbenis4]

Also is there any soft maxes I should be doing

 

[bigbenis4]

hgh is your best bet

This is the cycle I plan to run;

Hormone 1: HGH​

• Dose: 5 IU/day
• Timing: Fasted AM (optional split: 3 IU AM, 2 IU pre-bed)
• Purpose: IGF-1 stimulation, fat loss, joint healing, enhanced growth (especially helpful if you're still growing)

Hormone 2: Testosterone (Cypionate or Enanthate preferred)​

• Dose: 100–150 mg/week (split into 2 shots: e.g., 50 mg x2 weekly)
• Injection Frequency: Every 3.5 days (e.g., Mon/Thurs)
• Purpose: Mild anabolic support, muscle growth, performance, mood

AI: Aromatase Inhibitor (e.g., Arimidex / Anastrozole)​

• Dose: 0.25–0.5 mg every other day (EOD), adjust based on symptoms/labs
• Purpose: Control estrogen to prevent premature growth plate fusion and side effects like gyno, water retention

 

[bigbenis4]

I made my full dosing plan for test,ai,HGH if snyone wants to look at it through disc or something

 

[IrishSlayer1483]

This is the cycle I plan to run;

Hormone 1: HGH​

• Dose: 5 IU/day
• Timing: Fasted AM (optional split: 3 IU AM, 2 IU pre-bed)
• Purpose: IGF-1 stimulation, fat loss, joint healing, enhanced growth (especially helpful if you're still growing)

Hormone 2: Testosterone (Cypionate or Enanthate preferred)​

• Dose: 100–150 mg/week (split into 2 shots: e.g., 50 mg x2 weekly)
• Injection Frequency: Every 3.5 days (e.g., Mon/Thurs)
• Purpose: Mild anabolic support, muscle growth, performance, mood

AI: Aromatase Inhibitor (e.g., Arimidex / Anastrozole)​

• Dose: 0.25–0.5 mg every other day (EOD), adjust based on symptoms/labs
• Purpose: Control estrogen to prevent premature growth plate fusion and side effects like gyno, water retention

the test is too low for an ai imo u could do without

 

[bigbenis4]

Yeah I made a different thread, I’m using 250mg test with an HCG and hMG during cycle and clomid as a PCT.