How to avoid looking like this after cheekbone implants?

[bignosesmallchin]

This guy got a wraparound jaw implant + cheekbone implants. He looked way more masculine before, and way better in my opinion, he looks like a faggot now.

Did he just naturally have low cheek bones so the implant filled out his cheeks more giving him a feminine look? Would somebody with higher cheekbones ascend from the same procedure?

I want to get either filler or small implants on my zygos one day, but if it will look like this then maybe not.

 

[Deleted member 16683]

the lighting is different in these two pics, one has flash

 

[bignosesmallchin]

the lighting is different in these two pics, one has flash

His cheeks obviously changed a lot regardless of the lighting

 

[WanderingBurro]

This guy got a wraparound jaw implant + cheekbone implants. He looked way more masculine before, and way better in my opinion, he looks like a faggot now.

Did he just naturally have low cheek bones so the implant filled out his cheeks more giving him a feminine look? Would somebody with higher cheekbones ascend from the same procedure?

I want to get either filler or small implants on my zygos one day, but if it will look like this then maybe not.

Those are submalar implants, as the name implies they go below the malar area which gives off a more bloated look and result in the well known "apple cheek" effect. They make up for a vast majority of implants, you'd want to focus on implants that go directly on the malar area to create a more angular appearance

 

[khvirgin]

Most of the results look feminine
I think Eppley talked about this once

 

[bignosesmallchin]

Those are submalar implants, as the name implies they go below the malar area which gives off a more bloated look and result in the well known "apple cheek" effect. They make up for a vast majority of implants, you'd want to focus on implants that go directly on the malar area to create a more angular appearance

Which implants would give a angular look?

 

[WanderingBurro]

Which implants would give a angular look?

Malar or malar shell implants, they're rather rare to come by so there aren't many examples

 

[Deleted member 16133]

the lighting is different in these two pics, one has flash

100% similar angle on has flash one doesnt you can still see my zygos popping out with flash due to how high set and anteriorly projected they are but still it's not as defined with flash this dude needs to take out that implant because before his canine fossa was deep set and now he doesn't even have one because he looks so bloated but keep in mind he could've been recovering from it it took me 3 months to recover from chipmunk to chiseled

 

[WanderingBurro]

100% similar angle on has flash one doesnt you can still see my zygos popping out with flash due to how high set and anteriorly projected they are but still it's not as defined with flash this dude needs to take out that implant because before his canine fossa was deep set and now he doesn't even have one because he looks so bloated but keep in mind he could've been recovering from it it took me 3 months to recover from chipmunk to chiseled
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Got any pics of how the implants looked post op bloated vs. post op debloated? Some may argue you screwed too much with harmony but taken alone the angularity on those zygos are pretty top notch

 

[madcap88]

You need to get custom malar implants.

I got mine from Dr. Y with wraparound jaw. You have to get a design that looks natural on your face. You can't swap the same cheekbones onto everyone's face, it won't harmonize. Very angular ones like @curlyheadjames above wouldn't fit on some phenos. Depends

Anyways heres my design. Turned out natural looking

 

[WanderingBurro]

You need to get custom malar implants.

I got mine from Dr. Y with wraparound jaw. You have to get a design that looks natural on your face. You can't swap the same cheekbones onto everyone's face, it won't harmonize. Very angular ones like @curlyheadjames above wouldn't fit on some phenos. Depends

Anyways heres my design. Turned out natural looking

Got any before and after pics of how they looked?

Custom implants are a bit of a meme. I've seen plenty of custom ones that look like dogwater. Off the shelf implants come in a wide variety of shapes and sized with the added fact they can be shaved down and sculpted a bit to better suit any one patient. Dr. Joe said custom implants are largely unnecessary unless a patient suffers from brutal asymmetry. Dr. Y is usually pretty good with his implant designs but most custom implants look like jokes and if not more bloated than off the shelf

 

[madcap88]

Got any before and after pics of how they looked?

Custom implants are a bit of a meme. I've seen plenty of custom ones that look like dogwater. Off the shelf implants come in a wide variety of shapes and sized with the added fact they can be shaved down and sculpted a bit to better suit any one patient. Dr. Joe said custom implants are largely unnecessary unless a patient suffers from brutal asymmetry. Dr. Y is usually pretty good with his implant designs but most custom implants look like jokes and if not more bloated than off the shelf

Custom implants situate against the bone very well at a level off the shelf can't replicate.

I also don't believe that off the shelf ones are good for masculinizing effect.

 

[Deleted member 3679]

You need to get custom malar implants.

I got mine from Dr. Y with wraparound jaw. You have to get a design that looks natural on your face. You can't swap the same cheekbones onto everyone's face, it won't harmonize. Very angular ones like @curlyheadjames above wouldn't fit on some phenos. Depends

Anyways heres my design. Turned out natural looking

How does the jaw implant look on you? Could you please PM me a before/after? Thanks

 

[WanderingBurro]

Custom implants situate against the bone very well at a level off the shelf can't replicate.

I also don't believe that off the shelf ones are good for masculinizing effect.

Most off the shelf implants are submalar designs which work more for feminising the face

 

[madcap88]

Most off the shelf implants are submalar designs which work more for feminising the face

Exactly. Which is why for men that's not good

 

[Chadpreetmaybe]

B

You need to get custom malar implants.

I got mine from Dr. Y with wraparound jaw. You have to get a design that looks natural on your face. You can't swap the same cheekbones onto everyone's face, it won't harmonize. Very angular ones like @curlyheadjames above wouldn't fit on some phenos. Depends

Anyways heres my design. Turned out natural looking

Before after pics?

 

[Pakicel]

Hard to avoid. Cheek implants usually look unnatural

 

[Deleted member 16133]

Got any pics of how the implants looked post op bloated vs. post op debloated? Some may argue you screwed too much with harmony but taken alone the angularity on those zygos are pretty top notch

february 2022 bloated as fuck low set zygos small rounded chin flat supras no angularity or definition at all i knew i wanted an ogee curve bad that's why i would always press my face to see if i'd get one and the problem was my bones to be honest

i did a rhino afterwards as well too because i had a shitty nose but american doctors are waytoo conservative when itcomes to rhino soima go get a botched prettyboy nose next year in a foreign country for way cheaper i just dont have access to travel bc im not 18 for another year but yeah it was hell man 3 months after bimax combined with zygomatic infra and supra chin implant canthoplasty medial lacrimalplasty with assisted z plasty 3 session of yeux clairs rhinoplasty upper eyelid fat graft now all i gotta get is a jaw implant for a bit more bigonial width hairline reduction otoplasty leg lengthening next year and i'll be giga negl

ive done some filler here and there as well bro but my results look fucking great comparing it to before and after looks like an upgraded version of my past self there is no denying people just say i descended because this is an anti looksmax forum and they're trying to gaslight me and drive me insane which is why i don't come on here as much because it's a shit post forum and the userbase is rotten as fuck they're just mad i look more masculine than them have better bones the only reason they say im ugly now bc prettyboys are in style and they think that jb appeal matters when it literally doesn't and i get girls regardless WAY more IOIS and slays after the transformation but yeah bro what matters for zygos is it being high and wide set it has to have that angularity like most have said u cant look fat which is why i also got buccal fat removal surgery just in case they looked sloppy and droopy so yeah in total i had 13 surgeries including filler which i been doing for years but yeah

 

[Deleted member 16133]

You need to get custom malar implants.

I got mine from Dr. Y with wraparound jaw. You have to get a design that looks natural on your face. You can't swap the same cheekbones onto everyone's face, it won't harmonize. Very angular ones like @curlyheadjames above wouldn't fit on some phenos. Depends

Anyways heres my design. Turned out natural looking

B

Before after pics?

Hard to avoid. Cheek implants usually look unnatural

what is with this forum and obsessing over "natural" looks? none of your PSL gods look natural in any way and stand out amongst the crowd due to low facial averageness if anything being uncanny mogs if you can have bigger and better bones it's way better
imagine u get a small jaw implant just to walk down teh street and get mogged by some chad with natural wide bigonial width who has awider jhaw than u or u get LL and only do 3 inches to go from 5 10 to 6 1 and then get mogged by a 6 3 dude when u couldve gotten 6 inches to get to 6 4 it just makes no sense to me

 

[WanderingBurro]

Exactly. Which is why for men that's not good

Just get non submalar designs then

 

[madcap88]

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february 2022 bloated as fuck low set zygos small rounded chin flat supras no angularity or definition at all i knew i wanted an ogee curve bad that's why i would always press my face to see if i'd get one and the problem was my bones to be honest
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i did a rhino afterwards as well too because i had a shitty nose but american doctors are waytoo conservative when itcomes to rhino soima go get a botched prettyboy nose next year in a foreign country for way cheaper i just dont have access to travel bc im not 18 for another year but yeah it was hell man 3 months after bimax combined with zygomatic infra and supra chin implant canthoplasty medial lacrimalplasty with assisted z plasty 3 session of yeux clairs rhinoplasty upper eyelid fat graft now all i gotta get is a jaw implant for a bit more bigonial width hairline reduction otoplasty leg lengthening next year and i'll be giga negl

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ive done some filler here and there as well bro but my results look fucking great comparing it to before and after looks like an upgraded version of my past self there is no denying people just say i descended because this is an anti looksmax forum and they're trying to gaslight me and drive me insane which is why i don't come on here as much because it's a shit post forum and the userbase is rotten as fuck they're just mad i look more masculine than them have better bones the only reason they say im ugly now bc prettyboys are in style and they think that jb appeal matters when it literally doesn't and i get girls regardless WAY more IOIS and slays after the transformation but yeah bro what matters for zygos is it being high and wide set it has to have that angularity like most have said u cant look fat which is why i also got buccal fat removal surgery just in case they looked sloppy and droopy so yeah in total i had 13 surgeries including filler which i been doing for years but yeah

Lateral projection is bad idea for people with wider faces. Makes the head enormous.

Yea, I thought your might have gone overboard a bit, still stand by my previous comments BUT I hadn't seen what u looked like before.

TOTALLY better. Yes u may have messed some harmony. BUT you do look objectively better than BEFORE

 

[Pakicel]

Lateral projection is bad idea for people with wider faces. Makes the head enormous.

Yea, I thought your might have gone overboard a bit, still stand by my previous comments BUT I hadn't seen what u looked like before.

TOTALLY better. Yes u may have messed some harmony. BUT you do look objectively better than BEFORE

Nah. He looksminned hard. Was a prettyboy before. Now looks like some uncanny freak.

 

[Deleted member 16133]

You need to get custom malar implants.

I got mine from Dr. Y with wraparound jaw. You have to get a design that looks natural on your face. You can't swap the same cheekbones onto everyone's face, it won't harmonize. Very angular ones like @curlyheadjames above wouldn't fit on some phenos. Depends

Anyways heres my design. Turned out natural looking

this is a very good design, do you plan on getting more vertical chin height than this implant offers? or do you think it'll be enough to compete with maher?

 

[madcap88]

Just get non submalar designs then

They don't work for most faces, as there are a lot of factors tied into what will look good.

The fitting against bone is still inferior to customs. If you try off shelf make sure your surgeon uses predictive imaging so you get an idea of the effect

 

[madcap88]

Nah. He looksminned hard. Was a prettyboy before. Now looks like some uncanny freak.

I agreed that the harmony was messed up, which is uncanny. I've suggested in other threads that he take some stuff quite a bit down.

Agree less intensity and probably less overall work would have been so much better.

 

[Deleted member 16133]

Lateral projection is bad idea for people with wider faces. Makes the head enormous.

Yea, I thought your might have gone overboard a bit, still stand by my previous comments BUT I hadn't seen what u looked like before.

TOTALLY better. Yes u may have messed some harmony. BUT you do look objectively better than BEFORE

fr that's what i am saying it an improvement and bro harmony doesn't matter it's all bones and demeanor harmony is facial averageness i dont want to look average i am destined for something far greater i am the first person to look like me with my bones pheno etc

Nah. He looksminned hard. Was a prettyboy before. Now looks like some uncanny freak.

shut the fuck up prettyboys dont get taken seriouslyt before i never striked fear people pushed me aroudn and saw me as a bitch but now now one fucks with me i look aggressive and i feel peoples fear when they see me in public i mog u now and me before uncanny = ideal

 

[bignosesmallchin]

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february 2022 bloated as fuck low set zygos small rounded chin flat supras no angularity or definition at all i knew i wanted an ogee curve bad that's why i would always press my face to see if i'd get one and the problem was my bones to be honest
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i did a rhino afterwards as well too because i had a shitty nose but american doctors are waytoo conservative when itcomes to rhino soima go get a botched prettyboy nose next year in a foreign country for way cheaper i just dont have access to travel bc im not 18 for another year but yeah it was hell man 3 months after bimax combined with zygomatic infra and supra chin implant canthoplasty medial lacrimalplasty with assisted z plasty 3 session of yeux clairs rhinoplasty upper eyelid fat graft now all i gotta get is a jaw implant for a bit more bigonial width hairline reduction otoplasty leg lengthening next year and i'll be giga negl

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ive done some filler here and there as well bro but my results look fucking great comparing it to before and after looks like an upgraded version of my past self there is no denying people just say i descended because this is an anti looksmax forum and they're trying to gaslight me and drive me insane which is why i don't come on here as much because it's a shit post forum and the userbase is rotten as fuck they're just mad i look more masculine than them have better bones the only reason they say im ugly now bc prettyboys are in style and they think that jb appeal matters when it literally doesn't and i get girls regardless WAY more IOIS and slays after the transformation but yeah bro what matters for zygos is it being high and wide set it has to have that angularity like most have said u cant look fat which is why i also got buccal fat removal surgery just in case they looked sloppy and droopy so yeah in total i had 13 surgeries including filler which i been doing for years but yeah

Holy shit. How did you get so many surgeries at your age?

 

[Deleted member 16133]

I agreed that the harmony was messed up, which is uncanny. I've suggested in other threads that he take some stuff quite a bit down.

Agree less intensity and probably less overall work would have been so much better.

just get a rounder less defined face bro xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

 

[Deleted member 16133]

Holy shit. How did you get so many surgeries at your age?

i got my ways many more is to come i will never stop this is a constant battle for looks

 

[madcap88]

this is a very good design, do you plan on getting more vertical chin height than this implant offers? or do you think it'll be enough to compete with maher?

I have large head by default so I don't think that would help at all. Sometimes what's 'ideal' doesn't work on ones face and is irrelevant.

Also my face is pretty masculine by default, don't want to be too hyper masculine. Taller chin and even wider would be too too masculine given my base. Masculine all features isn't good in my opinion at all, gotta know when to pull back and maintain harmony /balance

 

[madcap88]

just get a rounder less defined face bro xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

There are levels to it.

 

[Deleted member 16133]

I have large head by default so I don't think that would help at all. Sometimes what's 'ideal' doesn't work on ones face and is irrelevant.

Also my face is pretty masculine by default, don't want to be too hyper masculine. Taller chin and even wider would be too too masculine given my base. Masculine all features isn't good in my opinion at all, gotta know when to pull back and maintain harmony /balance

no there's no point in spending 18-24k with eppley on a custom wraparound if your design doesn't mog mahers chin and vinnie hackers bigonial width that's just stupid if i'ma willingly pay that much shit i better get the best jawline in the world

 

[bignosesmallchin]

i got my ways many more is to come i will never stop this is a constant battle for looks

Fuck I wanna hardmaxx already but I need to get trimax first

 

[Deleted member 16133]

There are levels to it.

just get chubby cheeks again theory

 

[Deleted member 16133]

Fuck I wanna hardmaxx already but I need to get trimax first

that will ascend u the hardest espcially genio

 

[bignosesmallchin]

that will ascend u the hardest espcially genio

Wb cantho + filler or fat graft in eye area? Would that ascend me pretty hard? I want to get cantho for a neutral tilt maybe slightly positive if it doesn’t look too gay. Hopefully after all that I can look chadlite

 

[madcap88]

no there's no point in spending 18-24k with eppley on a custom wraparound if your design doesn't mog mahers chin and vinnie hackers bigonial width that's just stupid if i'ma willingly pay that much shit i better get the best jawline in the world

My bigonial is at Vinnie level. Implant was modeled after Toni Mahfud and Mario Rodriguez as reference.

I'm reducing my philtrum slightly with a conservative lip lift and 3mm lip Implants as well. Taller chin would mess up my harmony with that especially

I don't think maxxing every single feature is always a good idea, because it can lose harmony. Depending on your base you gotta priortize and do what's best for your particular face.

There are constraining factors like head size and harmony between the facial thirds in terms of height and width

 

[WanderingBurro]

Tbh minus the bimax bloat I think this pic looked the best

While I don't think you were recessed enough for bimax to be seen as necessary it did boost you a little. Eyes looked better before the work, people tend to like larger higher trust eyes


At this point I would've just highly recommended to bulk, hit the gym, and maybe get a more NT hairstyle. Prettyboy + gym-maxxed body is a good in between of getting positive attention and respect from men and women alike

 

[Deleted member 16133]

Wb cantho + filler or fat graft in eye area? Would that ascend me pretty hard? I want to get cantho for a neutral tilt maybe slightly positive if it doesn’t look too gay. Hopefully after all that I can look chadlite

pm me your eye area
also word of advice
if you're gonna blow 7k minimum in america on a canthoplasty there's no point in getting neutral tilt that's the most retarded thing just to get canthopalsty to get mogged at the gym by some chad with 5 degree PCT not even slight positive
you want highly positive canthal tilt like I got shit i might even go for the next step which is orbital box rotation my own technique i developed for steinbacher for 8 degree+ canthal tilt since you cant get two canthoplastys
it will never look gay just dimorphic if you get fucking roaring cheekbones and high PCT like me you will look masculine AF every predator in the wild has high degree of positive canthal tilt neutral can NEVER look intimidating i had negative and went to 5.5 degrees of PCT which .01% of canthoplasty patients can achieve that much PCT just via canthoplasty but i said if there's a will there is way
unless you're ian somerhalder who has a20 eyes you can't look good with neutral canthal tilt

 

[Deleted member 16133]

Tbh minus the bimax bloat I think this pic looked the best

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While I don't think you were recessed enough for bimax to be seen as necessary it did boost you a little. Eyes looked better before the work, people tend to like larger higher trust eyes


At this point I would've just highly recommended to bulk, hit the gym, and maybe get a more NT hairstyle. Prettyboy + gym-maxxed body is a good in between of getting positive attention and respect from men and women alike

thisguy just looks like a gymmaxed nerd now and his eye area is shit no wonder he uses glasses my eyes sucked ass back then
yes people may find largher higher trust eyes more appealing and welcoming
but deep down inside girls want predator eye area on a man something that's intimidating hunter eyes is what can set apart htn from chad you can never be a true PSL chadlite with a shit eye area
THE ONLY THING THAT CAN MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE A MAJESTIC MYTHICAL CREATURE IS NOT NOSE NOT JAW NOT HAIR NOT MUH GYM BUT EYE AREA YOU WANT AN EYE AREA LIKE THE APEX PREDATORS THE KINGS OF THE JUNGLE NOT A BUNNY RABBIT THIS FORUM IS TOO FEMALE GAZE MAXXED SINCE WHEN IS PSL DISREGARDED HERE WHAT THE FUCK? I AM DONE WIT HTHIS FORUM I AM NOT COMING BACK FOR A WEEK FOR THIS I WILL GIVE U ALL ONE WEEK TO THINK ABOUT WHAT U DONE TOO AMNY GREYCELS ANDTIKTOK NORMIES COME HERE AND THINK THEY OWN THIS SHIT!

 

[Deleted member 16133]

My bigonial is at Vinnie level. Implant was modeled after Toni Mahfud and Mario Rodriguez as reference.

I'm reducing my philtrum slightly with a conservative lip lift and 3mm lip Implants as well. Taller chin would mess up my harmony with that especially

I don't think maxxing every single feature is always a good idea, because it can lose harmony. Depending on your base you gotta priortize and do what's best for your particular face.

There are constraining factors like head size and harmony between the facial thirds in terms of height and width

you are getting a lip lift to fix your chin to philtrum to reach 2-2.25 I'm assuming? lip implants? silicone, or fat grafts? fat grafts unpredictable so i'd opt with silicone which i know you know. also harmony is irrelevant chico has the most harmony in the world but he also has the most boring face out of all of the PSL gods and consequentially he is the lowest PSL out of them all. you can't go bogdanoff territory but if it's a little uncanny it's just right remember PSL>Natural Looks

 

[bignosesmallchin]

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Malar or malar shell implants, they're rather rare to come by so there aren't many examples

Holy shit, they even improved his eye area, how come these are rare? Who does them?

 

[madcap88]

you are getting a lip lift to fix your chin to philtrum to reach 2-2.25 I'm assuming? lip implants? silicone, or fat grafts? fat grafts unpredictable so i'd opt with silicone which i know you know. also harmony is irrelevant chico has the most harmony in the world but he also has the most boring face out of all of the PSL gods and consequentially he is the lowest PSL out of them all. you can't go bogdanoff territory but if it's a little uncanny it's just right remember PSL>Natural Looks

Its around 2.17 atm.

Surgisil.

Though, I think losing harmony will put you in a niche thus less appeal

 

[Deleted member 16133]

Its around 2.17 atm.

Surgisil.

Though, I think losing harmony will put you in a niche thus less appeal

you measured it wrong you divide the chin height by the philtrum height if it's right you're just a mentalcel because the ratios don;t lie
and yeah opry barret are all niche appeal but guess what if you're a real blackpiller and dedicated to aesthetics you will prioritize PSL over just a broad appeal most of those girls will be LQHP anyway niche mogs notice opry who has very low facial harmony is the top paid male model in the world it's all bones bro

 

[WanderingBurro]

Holy shit, they even improved his eye area, how come these are rare? Who does them?

On second viewing the malar shell implant looks a tad bloated (maybe it was just too big?), the malar ones look the best with combined coming in second

I found the results here. An off the shelf implant site that showcases results achieved with various listed surgeons

Malar/Submalar - Implantech

www.implantech.com

People usually want fuller cheeks when buying implants so they tend to go for submalar designs. For sharper hollow cheeks people tend to go the route of extreme buccal fat removal. It's a bit rare that someone knows that sharper features are caused by more developed bones and not through becoming a corpse. Joe Niamtu (one of the listed surgeons) says that 98% of his implant work consist of submalar designs so you only have about 2% going for malar, combined, or shell designs with very little results of these floating around the interent

 

[Deleted member 7725]

100% similar angle on has flash one doesnt you can still see my zygos popping out with flash due to how high set and anteriorly projected they are but still it's not as defined with flash this dude needs to take out that implant because before his canine fossa was deep set and now he doesn't even have one because he looks so bloated but keep in mind he could've been recovering from it it took me 3 months to recover from chipmunk to chiseled
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Your nasoglabellar crease reduces your PSL by an entire fucking point. Sad shit @andy9432

 

[Deleted member 7725]

what is with this forum and obsessing over "natural" looks? none of your PSL gods look natural in any way and stand out amongst the crowd due to low facial averageness if anything being uncanny mogs if you can have bigger and better bones it's way better
imagine u get a small jaw implant just to walk down teh street and get mogged by some chad with natural wide bigonial width who has awider jhaw than u or u get LL and only do 3 inches to go from 5 10 to 6 1 and then get mogged by a 6 3 dude when u couldve gotten 6 inches to get to 6 4 it just makes no sense to me

Who is best for jaw implant?

 

[andy9432]

Your nasoglabellar crease reduces your PSL by an entire fucking point. Sad shit @andy9432

Ive told that to him time and time again. But he Thinks muh glabellar crease is masculine. Nope. Its the telltale sign that the whole midface is recessed

 

[Oberyn]

malar implants are meme. most of the time they look like shit.

 

[bignosesmallchin]

malar implants are meme. most of the time they look like shit.

What can be done to get more angular zygos? For example here’s a morph of me and in it I have way more defined/popped out cheekbones, how can one achieve that look?