How to avoid monke face when getting bimax?

[whiteissuperior]

This guy was and still is Chad from the front pre and post bimax, although Id say his nose is slightly worse.

However he got monke face after bimax.

What can you do to avoid looking like a gorilla like this??

Red shirt is before green is after

 

[ErbCel]

@Acromegaly_Chad

 

[Deleted member 7725]

What were his movements? Not a bad result given his nose before surgery. Extremely low radix and very upturned despite having a retruded maxilla.

 

[CosmicMaxxer]

This is the main reason I've never been into bimax. Extreme uncertainty of frontal L increase and decent probability of no change or even decrease.

 

[Warlow]

why didn't he get midface implants as well? also way too much advancement just looking at it.

 

[Deleted member 7725]

This is the main reason I've never been into bimax. Extreme uncertainty of frontal L increase and decent probability of no change or even decrease.

He undeniably looks better in the after and I believe the nose can be fixed via grafting or even filler to the bridge of the nose and an in-office alar reduction.

He had a very low radix and nasal bridge with an upturned nose despite having a retruded maxilla. I'd expect his nose to look a lot worse after given his base.

 

[whiteissuperior]

He undeniably looks better in the after and I believe the nose can be fixed via grafting or even filler to the bridge of the nose and an in-office alar reduction.

He had a very low radix and nasal bridge with an upturned nose despite having a retruded maxilla. I'd expect his nose to look a lot worse after given his base.

How many ppl think he looks better after?

 

[Deleted member 7725]

How many ppl think he looks better after?

Bro you can't be serious. He went from looking like a sped retard to a high tier normie. His eye support, midface, lower third, etc all improved. His side profile is an improvement from before but the low radix combined with extreme forward growth is not ideal.

 

[whiteissuperior]

Bro you can't be serious. He went from looking like a sped retard to a high tier normie. His eye support, midface, lower third, etc all improved. His side profile is an improvement from before but the low radix combined with extreme forward growth is not ideal.

I think he improved but he made some trade offs. Im curious what other users think

 

[one job away]

This guy was and still is Chad from the front pre and post bimax, although Id say his nose is slightly worse.

However he got monke face after bimax.

What can you do to avoid looking like a gorilla like this??

Red shirt is before green is after

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His forehead doesn’t fit the forward growth. If you have a straight forehead you can’t have a lot of forward growth as a white @.👽.

see what i meant ?

 

[Deleted member 7725]

His forehead doesn’t fit the forward growth. If you have a straight forehead you can’t have a lot of forward growth as a white @.👽.

see what i meant ?

Radix position and nasal bone projection too.

If that black part was filled it it would look much more harmonious.

 

[Deleted member 7725]

I think he improved but he made some trade offs. Im curious what other users think

Do you have a link to the original post on reddit or whatever?

I think he dramatically improved. Not even questionable whether it was worth it. Possibly a tad bit over advanced given his unique cranial landmarks but doesn't look bad to normies.

 

[CosmicMaxxer]

He undeniably looks better in the after and I believe the nose can be fixed via grafting or even filler to the bridge of the nose and an in-office alar reduction.

He had a very low radix and nasal bridge with an upturned nose despite having a retruded maxilla. I'd expect his nose to look a lot worse after given his base.

His facial profile looks very unnatural to me, like from the nasal tip down its projected, and above that its set back. Its why orbito-malar implants might not even be sufficient in cases like this, the entire base of his nose looks too far back relative to the bottom. Not just the paranasal, the nose itself.

In short, it looks like someone unnaturally pulled the bottom part of his face forwards.

 

[Deleted member 5786]

He needs to ask for a roman nose now

 

[Deleted member 7725]

His facial profile looks very unnatural to me, like from the nasal tip down its projected, and above that its set back. Its why orbito-malar implants might not even be sufficient in cases like this, the entire base of his nose looks too far back relative to the bottom. Not just the paranasal, the nose itself.

In short, it looks like someone unnaturally pulled the bottom part of his face forwards.

Yup, check my latest post above. He lacked nasal bone projection so technically needed lefort 2/3. I believe some grafting/filler to the nose can help.

 

[Duke of cumskins]

His front descendant imo needed rhino as well

 

[whiteissuperior]

Do you have a link to the original post on reddit or whatever?

I think he dramatically improved. Not even questionable whether it was worth it. Possibly a tad bit over advanced given his unique cranial landmarks but doesn't look bad to normies.

 

[CtrlAltDelete]

His maxilla was untouched.

 

[Duke of cumskins]

Why this retard didn't do both jaws

 

[Silver]

Surgeon needs to cut around ANS point, or else chimp limp occurs this is why you see Alfaro doing 10mm Lefort 1's without any chimp lip occurrence.

The guy in the photos had 7mm maxillary advancement

 

[one job away]

His maxilla was untouched.

It was obviously moved forwards

 

[one job away]

Surgeon needs to cut around ANS point, or else chimp limp occurs this is why you see Alfaro doing 10mm Lefort 1's without any chimp lip occurrence.

The guy in the photos had 7mm maxillary advancement

Can you Show a pic of where the point is? I have planning in a few days

 

[Silver]

Can you Show a pic of where the point is? I have planning in a few days

See how he cuts a "V" around the ANS point in the scan during the Lefort 1? 1st photo is Alfaro's work

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Why this retard didn't do both jaws

His mandible looks fine, no?

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Surgeon needs to cut around ANS point, or else chimp limp occurs this is why you see Alfaro doing 10mm Lefort 1's without any chimp lip occurrence.

The guy in the photos had 7mm maxillary advancement

I'd assume your paranasal area would remain unchanged though, which is bad for people with big schnozes and hollow paranasal areas due to recession (like me).

 

[Deleted member 9072]

bruh
only improvement was his dogshit udnerbite gone
i cant see anything else
but the nose tf
looks horrible
how can you tell a surgeon to avoid this?
why are niggs on this thread coping with
muh hhuge improvement
muh muh
his lower third was already aobve average before

 

[Silver]

I'd assume your paranasal area would remain unchanged though, which is bad for people with big schnozes and hollow paranasal areas due to recession (like me).

This is from Alfaro, 12mm upper and lower jaw. He did NOT perform a rhinoplasty.

 

[Duke of cumskins]

His mandible looks fine, no?

It seems assymetrical to me look at his left side it's slightly lower

 

[.👽.]

Can you Show a pic of where the point is? I have planning in a few days

dont worry your Ortho will plan it good, will cut around it.

btw wtf is this sideprofile, looks like shit. u think with a shaped forehead he would look better?

 

[one job away]

dont worry your Ortho will plan it good, will cut around it.

btw wtf is this sideprofile, looks like shit. u think with a shaped forehead he would look better?

He would defenitly look better with a slanted forhead with that level of forward growth.


but I would have brought his mandible back while bringing the maxilla forward for his case.
But as they executed it it just looks fake

 

[one job away]

This is from Alfaro, 12mm upper and lower jaw. He did NOT perform a rhinoplasty.

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Alfaro just never stops to amaze me

 

[.👽.]

He would defenitly look better with a slanted forhead with that level of forward growth.


but I would have brought his mandible back while bringing the maxilla forward for his case.
But as they executed it it just looks fake

i hope i don't look like this after surgery i would rope man

 

[one job away]

i hope i don't look like this after surgery i would rope man

Nah dw. Z ain’t a retard. He only produces uncanny results if the patients push for it.

 

[.👽.]

Nah dw. Z ain’t a retard. He only produces uncanny results if the patients push for it.

i wish he called me back bruh im still waiting for this nigga what is he doing??

 

[one job away]

i wish he called me back bruh im still waiting for this nigga what is he doing??

Idk why you still have the patience tbh. That’s on you tho

 

[.👽.]

Idk why you still have the patience tbh. That’s on you tho

i want the chinwing thats why

 

[one job away]

i want the chinwing thats why

But you can get them in separate procedures. It’s not even cheaper If you get them together. But I understand yeah. You want the one surgery and be done

 

[.👽.]

But you can get them in separate procedures. It’s not even cheaper If you get them together. But I understand yeah. You want the one surgery and be done

exactly. thinking even to add rhino to it. but too risky

 

[Deleted member 7725]

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It seems assymetrical to me look at his left side it's slightly lower

Yeah, his reddit post said he didn't want to change the asymmetry because single vs djs. His mandible isn't really recessed and doesn't affect his looks that much tbh.

 

[hypergamy]

His whole maxilla is fucked. Like all of it. Moving the lower part just fucks it up worse. Time to implantmaxx.

 

[Need2Ascend]

i hope i don't look like this after surgery i would rope man

Wann hast du deine op?

 

[Donc0ck]

I think its mostly a thing only class 3 get since they have bigger lf1 movement while they all mostly suffer from whole midface hypoplasia. I guess thats why i do not like most class 3 results from an aesthetic standpoint.

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

rotation + high cut

 

[Reckless Turtle]

This is the main reason I've never been into bimax. Extreme uncertainty of frontal L increase and decent probability of no change or even decrease.

He had an underbite and needed his maxilla moved forward, regardless of the aesthetic result. There is no beating around the bush with occlusal issues like his.

 

[CosmicMaxxer]

He had an underbite and needed his maxilla moved forward, regardless of the aesthetic result. There is no beating around the bush with occlusal issues like his.

agreed but he should have just gone LF2 or bust.

 

[uranio]

Nobody mentioned the frontal bone, over for this forum. His brow ridge is clearly underdeveloped making his lower third appear too much forward growth after Lefort advancement. Give him a forward and strong upper third and he will look completely normal.

 

[.👽.]

Wann hast du deine op?

keine Ahnung wird seit fast 1 jahr hin und her verschoben...

 

[TrestIsBest]

Well he looked like an ape beforehand

 

[dakchuh]

my boy seamaxxed

 

[Deleted member 15899]

once he gets rhino he will look good