How to choose the right size for the cheek/paranasal/midface implants?

[Erik-Jón]

Yeah. I think bimax could make me look younger. Gaia262 went looking over 30 to early 20s.

He was also clinically recessed and prolonged his life span also

 

[Pakicel]

He was also clinically recessed and prolonged his life span also

Not clinically though.

 

[Artemis]

He was also clinically recessed and prolonged his life span also

Not clinically though.

Yeah, he was just "aesthetically" recessed. If he were "medically" recessed, he would have done the Bimax Free of charge on NHS in Britain, instead of working twice to save the money and going hell knows where to Ramieri.

Don't forget, it was Gaia who actually popularized Ramieri. before that, Ramieri had been obscure at best. The surgeon must be forever grateful to Gaia for driving him into the world limelight

 

[Artemis]

Is it worth getting surgeries as an oldcel?

Yeah, it is ALWAYS worth it.

Apart from the obvious benefits that you extend your dating pool, it is always beneficial to look younger. Ageism is a thing.
Though ofc not at my age yet still, but in 10 years it will be

Also, the profile of surgeries changes. You need more work on soft tissue than bone. Skin sags, hair falls out and other shit. Some people also age terribly. I thank god for my jewish grandmother: i have thick skin, and good DHT resistant hair. So i age WAY slower than my peers.

Thus, I can feed my internal narcissist and do my cheekbones and rhino

 

[Pakicel]

Yeah, he was just "aesthetically" recessed. If he were "medically" recessed, he would have done the Bimax Free of charge on NHS in Britain, instead of working twice to save the money and going hell knows where to Ramieri.

Don't forget, it was Gaia who actually popularized Ramieri. before that, Ramieri had been obscure at best. The surgeon must be forever grateful to Gaia for driving him into the world limelight

IDK why he did that. Just drives up prices for all of us.

 

[Artemis]

IDK why he did that. Just drives up prices for all of us.

Yeah, and this is continuing. I won't be surprised if he charges already 15k in half a year.

He said he had SO MANY people waiting in the queue, like 4 months for HIM, and like Marionetti is booked for TWO YEARS lol
2 years is actually enough time to learn Korean B2.1, and literally do all the stuff for 10k in Seoul

He actually quoted me 12k for his cheekbone implants.

The sum is not the problem but hard to justify, given that less-known surgeons do BIMAX for that price. However, the trick is: Pagnoni and Eppley are also well-known but do saddles and their designs cover the orbital rim FULLY. They cost 14k for Eppley, and 13.5k Pagnoni (based on @herring thread). Difference: 2k most.

Now, to justify the prices, DO I THINK NOW that Ramieri is more skilled than Pagnoni or Eppley? Why would i go to HIM instead of e.g. Pagnoni, or even going for filler again? After all, the only 2 drawbacks of filler: it is EXPENSIVE and it doesnt work as well in thick skin (unlike angular implants)

 

[Pakicel]

Yeah, and this is continuing. I won't be surprised if he charges already 15k in half a year.

He said he had SO MANY people waiting in the queue, like 4 months for HIM, and like Marionetti is booked for TWO YEARS lol
2 years is actually enough time to learn Korean B2.1, and literally do all the stuff for 10k in Seoul

He actually quoted me 12k for his cheekbone implants.

The sum is not the problem but hard to justify, given that less-known surgeons do BIMAX for that price. However, the trick is: Pagnoni and Eppley are also well-known but do saddles and their designs cover the orbital rim FULLY. They cost 14k for Eppley, and 13.5k Pagnoni (based on @herring thread). Difference: 2k most.

Now, to justify the prices, DO I THINK NOW that Ramieri is more skilled than Pagnoni or Eppley? Why would i go to HIM instead of e.g. Pagnoni, or even going for filler again? After all, the only 2 drawbacks of filler: it is EXPENSIVE and it doesnt work as well in thick skin (unlike angular implants)

Why don't fillers work for thick skin? If filler does not give you angularity, implants won't either

 

[Artemis]

Why don't fillers work for thick skin? If filler does not give you angularity, implants won't either

You can make literally this with implant:

Note the sharp edges of the implant in the jaw/cheek. THIS is the only thing that will theoretically poke through the thick skin, creating angular shape.

Fillers are done as overlay on the existing bone. They can "somewhat" create shape, but it will not be sharp. So, if you want this type of implant-design:

Then filler can IDEALLY recreate this thing. In people with THIN skin, fillers can create even MORE sharper effects.

But it will not be as good as creating this type of shape in thick skin (jaw gonions):

THIS is how i know. My jaw on the right is very sharp as you can notice. On the other side, the bone resorbed. AND VISUALLY, the skeleton on the right side is a LOT more visible through the skin, while the left side actually does not create the same sharp jaw angle.

I had fillers in the cheeks. They are sharp only for a few days. After that, they actually still give you volume for a long time, BUT it is NOT sharp anymore. Also, this is the reason why fillers are superior for women: they prefer rounder shapes in the cheeks.

This is the best filler can create really - cheekbones kinda visible, but round and medium. Because filler cannot create truly high cheekbones (or maybe my injector is not good).


In the photo I am ~12% bodyfat. And no, due to thick skin bones still do not pop.

NB. FILLERS DO NOT MIGRATE. Hate this myth.

 

[Pakicel]

You can make literally this with implant:
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Note the sharp edges of the implant in the jaw/cheek. THIS is the only thing that will theoretically poke through the thick skin, creating angular shape.

Fillers are done as overlay on the existing bone. They can "somewhat" create shape, but it will not be sharp. So, if you want this type of implant-design:
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Then filler can IDEALLY recreate this thing. In people with THIN skin, fillers can create even MORE sharper effects.

I see results like this all the time with fillers though:

What gives?

 

[Artemis]

I see results like this all the time with fillers though:

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What gives?

Photos taken immediately after the injection (you can spot redness and swelling in his cheeks where he was injected). It is like that for a few days. Then the results ameliorate.

 

[Pagnonisavemyeyes]

I had malar, jaw, and paranasals with Dr. yaremchuk.

If you have thick skin, absolutely go sharper on the jaw contour. My jaw designs was very sharp and has little curve in it and turned out very angular and 0 bloat. Dr. Y is revising some asymmetries but it has EXCELLENT definition.

For the malars I went for a Toni Mahfud/Jeremy Meeks style implant. Not exactly high-cheekbone, but prominent. The style cheekbone you see if you Google 'male model cheekbones' essentially. I had ~5.3mm anterior projection which is slightly too much, Dr. Y is trimming/revising

For paranasals, beware silicone ones. One side of my paranasals shifted up the side of my nose. If you workout and have pressure on your body like that they can shift. They actually make your lower face (sides of nose) fuller which doesn't really look that great. They do help with nasalobial folds, but I think there are better ways to resolve those.

It really depends on what harmonizes with your face, keeping in mind how other implants will change it too. For example my level of projection cheekbones would not fit on most guys faces, but my skull is bigger than most so it's different

How much does yaremchuck charge for revisions?

 

[Artemis]

How much does yaremchuck charge for revisions?

Ramieri charges HALF THE SUM even if the problem was ON HIS SIDE

IN particular, if e.g. infection happens, one pays the hospital fees, anaesthesia, AND the work of all other relevant specialists except for Ramieri himself. That amount to around half of the whole implant sum... THIS IS IF THE ISSUE WAS CAUSED BY THE SURGERY ITSELF. Does not include the cases when you were Bogdanoffed if you chose shitty implant design, or it accidentally did not match your face. That shit has to be redone from scratch.

 

[reptiles]

wow, i thought this kinda outcome is natural in cheekbone augmentation.
At least @Gaia262 has the same (on the right):
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I think if i go with smaller implants than @Win200, then the eye-hollow will not be as prominent. I actually see the guys who have exactly the same eye-cheekbone structure as the users above. So it is in no way unnatural. but as if it is the best, im not sure.

However, Ramieri does not do saddles, right? at least someone mentioned on this forum.

PS. Also IMO the result of the guy whose design i posted
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looks great actually:
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So as you can see, his cheekbones are actually poking through skin quite well, and also the orbital rim becomes quite defined. So, the implant design gave him the christian-bale-like cheekbones.

Would he be able to do a revision to get results like this.

 

[Artemis]

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Would he be able to do a revision to get results like this.

You pay for it from your own pocket: insufficient result is not the problem caused by the surgery, and as such not covered.

Also, what did you do to Gaia
YOu turned him into Adonis, as Hamza would say

 

[reptiles]

You pay for it from your own pocket: insufficient result is not the problem caused by the surgery, and as such not covered.

Also, what did you do to Gaia
YOu turned him into Adonis, as Hamza would say

White orbitals and curry cheek bones turns any 1 into adonis

 

[Artemis]

White orbitals and curry cheek bones turns any 1 into adonis

Is it I who is dumb, or how do you produce these in FaceApp? Is it the mobile version?

I remember there were only some filters like "cheekbones" but this shit did not give such high quality morphs as above ^

 

[reptiles]

You pay for it from your own pocket: insufficient result is not the problem caused by the surgery, and as such not covered.

Also, what did you do to Gaia
YOu turned him into Adonis, as Hamza would say

Well unless you look like this

Is it I who is dumb, or how do you produce these in FaceApp? Is it the mobile version?

I remember there were only some filters like "cheekbones" but this shit did not give such high quality morphs as above ^

I bought the above version if you want ill morph you

 

[reptiles]

Is it I who is dumb, or how do you produce these in FaceApp? Is it the mobile version?

I remember there were only some filters like "cheekbones" but this shit did not give such high quality morphs as above ^

Fucking christ m8.

Fuck man

 

[Pakicel]

Fucking christ m8.

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Fuck man

He is never gonna look like that. STOP with these unrealistic morphs.

 

[reptiles]

He is never gonna look like that. STOP with these unrealistic morphs.

Im addicted at this point tbqh

 

[Pakicel]

Fucking christ m8.

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Fuck man

But it does prove a point. OP needs denser eyebrows and tigther lower lids. And a better hairstyle.

 

[Artemis]

Fucking christ m8.

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Fuck man

You turned me into a Chad Jesus

 

[reptiles]

But it does prove a point. OP needs denser eyebrows and tigther lower lids. And a better hairstyle.

I wish surgeons could replicate this shit fucking hell ive never seen 1 surgery result as good as the shit i post.


What is it exactly that fucks it

 

[Pakicel]

You turned me into a Chad Jesus

If only fillers could get you the bones on the right.

 

[Pakicel]

I wish surgeons could replicate this shit fucking hell ive never seen 1 surgery result as good as the shit i post.


What is it exactly that fucks it

Cause you are changing lots of things.

 

[reptiles]

You turned me into a Chad Jesus

Why cant surgeons replicate this shit thoigh ive never seen a surgery result as good as a face app result like this morph or the morph of me i pmed you.

 

[reptiles]

Cause you are changing lots of things.

Yeah but i would expect a result some what similar even if it isnt 100 percent so i would expect similar results

 

[Pakicel]

I wish surgeons could replicate this shit fucking hell ive never seen 1 surgery result as good as the shit i post.


What is it exactly that fucks it

Not all faceapp filters are COMPLETELY unrealistic though. Like look at this result:

I morphed the left with a more angular jaw and ran it through the cheekbone filter and it looked pretty close to the result on the right.

But you prolly used the hollywood/passion filters which are unrealistic cause they make lots of small changes to your soft features and colouring

 

[Pakicel]

Yeah but i would expect a result some what similar even if it isnt 100 percent so i would expect similar results

Man. You have spent so much time on here but you still lack a nuanced understanding of all of this.

 

[Artemis]

If only fillers could get you the bones on the right.

Also, it is LITERS of filler. I think actually it is impossible to inflate cheeks like this with fillers. Must be some limit. Otherwise everyone would be doing it instead of implants. There is a reason why people like Ember Heard went for implants instead of fillers to create her new huge cheekbones.

 

[Artemis]

And a better hairstyle.

I wear long hair. Had to shave for a hairline lowering transplant.

 

[Pakicel]

Morph looks a bit bogged. But this is somewhat realistic. Still a bit optimistic though.

 

[Artemis]

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Morph looks a bit bogged. But this is somewhat realistic. Still a bit optimistic though.

Nah this one i don't like tbh.. i like my oval-shaped face

I think the Jesus-morph does a lot of midface work so looks great. The jaw is secondary, and would look good even without so much width

E.g. The Jesus has his face more convex: if you look how the cheekbone runs - it creates the OG-curve even from the front, and the space near the nose does not seem "set behind" like my real face... I actually was thinking of paranasal implants for this reason. But honestly i have no idea tbh... this shit is so complicated...

 

[Pakicel]

Nah this one i don't like tbh.. i like my oval-shaped face

I think the Jesus-morph does a lot of midface work so looks great. The jaw is secondary, and would look good even without so much width

I could change your nose and other things as well.

 

[Artemis]

I could change your nose and other things as well.

Why not!

 

[Artemis]

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Morph looks a bit bogged. But this is somewhat realistic. Still a bit optimistic though.

One thing that i was thinkinig actually: this stuff can easily be created with 3-4ml of filler on the jaw angles for me. Might as well do a trial. But just saving money for other things atm. Fillers has to be run all the time, and costs so f*** much

 

[Pakicel]

Why not!

Are these photobooth pics?

 

[Pakicel]

One thing that i was thinkinig actually: this stuff can easily be created with 3-4ml of filler on the jaw angles for me. Might as well do a trial. But just saving money for other things atm. Fillers has to be run all the time, and costs so f*** much

It depends on your anatomy though. I know users here who don't need that much to maintain their look.

 

[Artemis]

Are these photobooth pics?

No, professional studio camera. Specifically did for plastic surgery.

 

[Pakicel]

One thing that i was thinkinig actually: this stuff can easily be created with 3-4ml of filler on the jaw angles for me. Might as well do a trial. But just saving money for other things atm. Fillers has to be run all the time, and costs so f*** much

But on the other hand, this is the average jaw implant result:

 

[Artemis]

It depends on your anatomy though. I know users here who don't need that much to maintain their look.

They don't need to extend their angles that much though. The jaws that you made, and Jesus's, are very very wide. It will require a ton of product.

 

[Artemis]

But on the other hand, this is the average jaw implant result:

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Yeah and THIS IS SCARY AS FUCK.

Imagine paying 20k, and then taking this shit out. I hope it is just surgery swelling for him. Because IMO his face was better BEFORE.

Also, i hate bulldog jaws popularized on looksmax. They are not ideal. The jaw must be narrower than bizygomatic width to create the oval face. I really like this tbh, ideal jaw imo:

 

[Artemis]

@Pakicel @reptiles guys, so, which tools in FaceApp do you use? i c there only filters. But how does one change a specific features like cheekbones? or undereye?

 

[Pakicel]

@Pakicel @reptiles guys, so, which tools in FaceApp do you use? i c there only filters. But how does one change a specific features like cheekbones? or undereye?

Better morph them using VPSS.

 

[reptiles]

@Pakicel @reptiles guys, so, which tools in FaceApp do you use? i c there only filters. But how does one change a specific features like cheekbones? or undereye?

You have to buy it 5 pounds for me on the app

 

[reptiles]

Better morph them using VPSS.

But you have to do the mental work of actually making the face better faceapp does the work for you and it mogs anything you can out put tbqh

 

[reptiles]

Nah this one i don't like tbh.. i like my oval-shaped face

I think the Jesus-morph does a lot of midface work so looks great. The jaw is secondary, and would look good even without so much width

E.g. The Jesus has his face more convex: if you look how the cheekbone runs - it creates the OG-curve even from the front, and the space near the nose does not seem "set behind" like my real face... I actually was thinking of paranasal implants for this reason. But honestly i have no idea tbh... this shit is so complicated...

Your jaw wasn't touched motion to motion your eyes became more compact and your cheek bones became massively high set

 

[Artemis]

Ok, @Pakicel @reptiles

I found a simple filler in FaceApp, which is called Young 3.


This shit literally does a fucking TON of surgeries per person, but i identified all of them done on my face here:

1) Hairline lowering
2) Lip filler
3) Brow LIFT
4) Frown lines botox
5) Slight rhinoplasty: tip and dorsum width
6) MINIFACELIFT
7) Undereye filler
8) Brow colored darker
9) Skin resurfacing

This shit is insane. But it at least did not touch any bones here.

 

[Artemis]

You have to buy it 5 pounds for me on the app

You mean the "sizes: cheekbones"? I once tried "pro" but couldnt figure how to create sth like you did Gaia into GigaChad

 

[Artemis]

Fucking christ m8.

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Your jaw wasn't touched motion to motion your eyes became more compact and your cheek bones became massively high set

I could never guess... i first thought it widened the jaw. Yeah, eyes are impossible to fix, and not worth for like 2mm. But cheekbones _ more projected midface tbh make all the difference as i suspected