How to deal with life as a HTN?

[MoggerGaston]

Facts Romantically:

You want a stacylite gf, but they dont care about ur HTN ass. You end up simping or having no interactions at all with stacylites.

You can get a HTB gf, but they are entitled and demanding. Definitely not easy. They treat you poorly and you get fed up with them easily. Low interest. Shit dynamic.

Beckies are easy and want LTR, but you have 0 interest. Only interested in an easy hook-up. Waste of time.

Conclusion: Relationships seem like a waste of time unless you can ascend in status/wealth to the point you can get HTB/stacylites that aren't a pain in the ass, unlikely though.

FwB/hookups with beckies can be done, but most women are starfish in bed so unless ur into that dominant commanding role it's uninteresting. Better to be celibate.



Only conclusion I can draw is to focus on moneymax/statusmax and just fuck hookers instead of having hookups with beckies that do the starfish.

Maybe one day u get sincere interest from a htb/stacylite and you can adjust your life to that, but its unlikely so better not count on it.

If u care about 'spreading ur seed' u can do sperm donations tbh. Much better than getting fucked with child alimony with subpar foids.

Thoughts?

 

[stressftw]

If you are >>>>>rich<<<<<<, past 25 and have your own apartment u surely can have LTR with stacylites

They wont be atracted to you very for long though (considering you are HTN)

But it doesnt matter, for LTR, money talks

My father was real chad and my mom real stacy

After the years their relationship degraded to mutual self disrespect and 0 attraction and they even kinda despize each other
In LTR attraction fades no matter what tbh

 

[MoggerGaston]

If you are >>>>>rich<<<<<<, past 25 and have your own apartment u surely can have LTR with stacylites

They wont be atracted to you very for long though (considering you are HTN)

But it doesnt matter, for LTR, money talks

So you think it's best to focus on moneymax and having a lifestyle that reflects your income.

And then having short-term relationships with HTB-stacylites which you replace every so often since you know they aren't attracted to you long-term?

Sounds decent tbh.

 

[Pendejo]

I wouldn't know.

 

[Johnnybegood]

The problem with being a "HTN" is that the very term is becoming meaningless.

So many guys are rated HTN and yet they are barely above average lmfao. Others are pretty good looking and they are also being rated a HTN. The term is rapidly becoming ambiguous.

Wheat Waffles said he was a HTN and yet he is an average gingerman with no sex appeal whatsoever!!

I would say if you're visibly above average, you're good to go. No need to complicate things. Yes status matters! Money matters!

And if you're below high tier Chadlite levels you will need to play the game like everyone else to get really top tier women!

 

[thereallegend]

Beckies are easy and want LTR

Just give into hypergamy and settle with a MTB.

FwB/hookups with beckies can be done, but most women are starfish in bed so unless ur into that dominant commanding role it's uninteresting. Better to be celibate.

Why would you conclude being celibate is better than taking control during sex?

hookers

Do hookers in the Netherlands (Red Light) fuck well?

 

[stressftw]

So you think it's best to focus on moneymax and having a lifestyle that reflects your income.

And then having short-term relationships with HTB-stacylites which you replace every so often since you know they aren't attracted to you long-term?

Sounds decent tbh.

Bro, money is mandatory being chad or not

With money you can maximize your looks through surgery, have a social cycle, be respected and consider a LTR with someone you want to share part of your life with


With money you can overcome your ugliness at your potential limit, have relationships, travel and buy whatever shit you want or need.

Without money u can slay if you are chad, but no woman will want a LTR with you if you are poor, only if you are Meeks tier that literally people is willing to take you out of jail for modelling

Once woman early twenties start to fade and reality start to knock, they desperately crave for wealth, and a stable relationship with someone that can provide(rich people), thats after, of course, theyve fucked all chads they could in their prime, but it is what it is.

Humans naturally strive for a comfort zone, no matter what

 

[MoggerGaston]

I would say if you're visibly above average, you're good to go. No need to complicate things. Yes status matters! Money matters!

Well the issue is that HTB foids are undateable nowadays. They act entitled and demanding even when you are looksmatched as HTN.

You need HTN + High Status + Wealthy. Which is a very big goal. Being HTN+status+wealthy would make you top 5% of the world. No easy feat.

Considering that imo it's also worth asking yourself whether this is worth it. What if you don't want to be high status+high money, and just want to be ur average joe HTN? Is it best to mgtow then?

 

[MoggerGaston]

Just give into hypergamy and settle with a MTB.

I guess it's personal but I personally I prefer being single than being with a girl I am not attracted to.

Why would you conclude being celibate is better than taking control during sex?

Because these women show 0 interest in sex. You are the only one initiating and you get low interest, low energy sex.

Do hookers in the Netherlands (Red Light) fuck well?

Haven't tried, but I am guessing that it's slightly better than having sex with beckies.

 

[Deleted member 7580]

Ratings are cope af

@Beastimmung is a htn, but his mtn friend outslays him hard

 

[MoggerGaston]

Ratings are cope af

@Beastimmung is a htn, but his mtn friend outslays him hard

Oke so you are saying looks are complete cope. If you are nerd looking skinny-fat cuck with no hygiene, doesnt matter cuz ratings dont matter.

So then what matters according to you?

 

[Deleted member 7580]

Oke so you are saying looks are complete cope. If you are nerd looking skinny-fat cuck with no hygiene, doesnt matter cuz ratings dont matter.

So then what matters according to you?

Not completely cope but yea mostly cope

Hottest girl I’ve seen recently was with a guy who’d be rated normie here but he was tattoo maxxed and tall (6’2 so not too tall)

 

[MoggerGaston]

Hottest girl I’ve seen recently was with a guy who’d be rated normie here but he was tattoo maxxed and tall (6’2 so not too tall)

So you're in favor of niche-maxxing?

Tattoos are becoming more and more normal/NT. But large amounts of tattoos (like a full sleeve) are still niche.

Tbh personally I am thinking of getting large amounts of tattoos. In the shape of scars. Scars of the incel life I have lived till now. Hoping that way I can somehow move on from that part of my life ngl.

 

[Deleted member 7580]

So you're in favor of niche-maxxing?

Tattoos are becoming more and more normal/NT. But large amounts of tattoos (like a full sleeve) are still niche.

Tbh personally I am thinking of getting large amounts of tattoos. In the shape of scars. Scars of the incel life I have lived till now. Hoping that way I can somehow move on from that part of my life ngl.

Yea I guess nichemaxxing could work, but different niches work for different guys

Idk if tattoos add appeal to everyone or just guys

 

[MoggerGaston]

Yea I guess nichemaxxing could work, but different niches work for different guys

Idk if tattoos add appeal to everyone or just guys

It's mostly girls that have tattoos where I live. Having tattoos adds appeal to any girl that has tattoos which is the majority.

Tats only add appeal untill the point they become visible with clothes on: Neck tattoos, face tats, hand tats, etc. At that point they become trashy which still has appeal to the majority of foids. But some, very few amount, will think it's ' too much'.

I would argue the average man is better of with some tattoos than without tattoos in 2022. Having no tats at all is starting to be come non-NT.

 

[wollet2]

dnr yet but i wanted to make a similar thread

how to live as htn, knowing u are so inferior to chadlite/chad

htns are nothing

 

[Deleted member 19994]

Facts Romantically:

You want a stacylite gf, but they dont care about ur HTN ass. You end up simping or having no interactions at all with stacylites.

You can get a HTB gf, but they are entitled and demanding. Definitely not easy. They treat you poorly and you get fed up with them easily. Low interest. Shit dynamic.

Beckies are easy and want LTR, but you have 0 interest. Only interested in an easy hook-up. Waste of time.

Conclusion: Relationships seem like a waste of time unless you can ascend in status/wealth to the point you can get HTB/stacylites that aren't a pain in the ass, unlikely though.

FwB/hookups with beckies can be done, but most women are starfish in bed so unless ur into that dominant commanding role it's uninteresting. Better to be celibate.



Only conclusion I can draw is to focus on moneymax/statusmax and just fuck hookers instead of having hookups with beckies that do the starfish.

Maybe one day u get sincere interest from a htb/stacylite and you can adjust your life to that, but its unlikely so better not count on it.

If u care about 'spreading ur seed' u can do sperm donations tbh. Much better than getting fucked with child alimony with subpar foids.

Thoughts?

Thoughts? Just fuck an autistic landwhale already. Y'all HTNs have it easy unlike me Der Officiale Untermensch from Looksmax.org.

 

[Johnnybegood]

Considering that imo it's also worth asking yourself whether this is worth it. What if you don't want to be high status+high money, and just want to be ur average joe HTN? Is it best to mgtow then?

Well if you just want to be an average Joe HTN without a solid social circle and connections, i would choose to LTR a MTB with a really nice body! Usually MTB with smoking hot bodies are very face-oriented and they don't really crave for status as much as HTBs in the face but average bodies. But then again one can always be lucky. So don't lose hope. Besides you are in stem which Will bring a pretty stable career long term

 

[MoggerGaston]

Well if you just want to be an average Joe HTN without a solid social circle and connections, i would choose to LTR a MTB with a really nice body! Usually MTB with smoking hot bodies are very face-oriented and they don't really crave for status as much as HTBs in the face but average bodies. But then again one can always be lucky. So don't lose hope. Besides you are in stem which Will bring a pretty stable career long term

MTB with smoking hot body would be a good pick that's right.
Probably the very best option if you are HTN as a guy.

STEM will always failo more than it halos. You lose a lot of social opportunity, while the career/money benefits fail in comparison to that.
But you are right in the fact that there's always randomness, luck involved.

If I look at my own one night stands, they range from stacy-lite to low-tier becky. Even my LTRs range from stacylite to becky. The randomness of life makes it always worth pursueing.

 

[SubSigma]

Im a htn happa and can't get shit other than ltbs, but would probably be able to get a stacey lite if I was full white. Its white stacey or nothing for me. I don't want to curse my son with my subhuman genes.

 

[MoggerGaston]

Im a htn happa and can't get shit other than ltbs, but would probably be able to get a stacey lite if I was full white. Its white stacey or nothing for me. I don't want to curse my son with my subhuman genes.

same.

i care less about her if its just fwb/gf/ons though. but for kids ill need tall stacylite

 

[Deleted member 18840]

Just be her type tbh

 

[ChristianChad]

Stacylites might actually be down for LTR, because they unironically don't want Chadlite or Chad as long term boyfriend or husband because then they will most likely cheat on them.
You're good

 

[Meteor21]

Stacylite is doable for a HTN

 

[forevergymcelling]

The problem with being a "HTN" is that the very term is becoming meaningless.

So many guys are rated HTN and yet they are barely above average lmfao. Others are pretty good looking and they are also being rated a HTN. The term is rapidly becoming ambiguous.

Wheat Waffles said he was a HTN and yet he is an average gingerman with no sex appeal whatsoever!!

I would say if you're visibly above average, you're good to go. No need to complicate things. Yes status matters! Money matters!

And if you're below high tier Chadlite levels you will need to play the game like everyone else to get really top tier women!