How to escape abused dog mentality

[Deleted member 22623]

Dating a girl rn and due to an experience in the past I’m becoming increasingly paranoid about getting cucked. She seems into me but at the same time giving mixed signals and doing some extremely weird shit I won’t go into detail with here. Plus reading stories on this forum daily doesn’t help my paranoia either

Would you just instantly cut contact at the first sign of something being off? I cannot have sex with the same person multiple times without getting emotionally attached, which is gigacucked but it is what it is.

@Akhi @AspiringMogger @rand anon @ascension @TRUE_CEL @poopoohead @julianchicago

 

[sub5outsider]

leave this forum its the best for your mental health

 

[HOLYFUARK]

She seems into me but at the same time giving mixed signals and doing some extremely weird shit

She forgot to call you her cutie patootie this morning or what?

 

[Struggler03]

Develop narcissism

 

[Deleted member 22623]

Develop narcissism

I am already extremely narcissistic in some aspects, which I hate. And I honestly don’t think it helps in this case

 

[Dr. Bludy]

Lock her in a basement problem solved

 

[Deleted member 27550]

Be a normal person and talk to her about this so called “suspicious” behavior.

 

[Akhi]

Be a normal person and talk to her about this so called “suspicious” behavior.

she will just gaslight him

 

[Birdcell]

Definitely crack cocaine

 

[Deleted member 22623]

she will just gaslight him

I think I am already being gaslit hard tbh

Its either that or im completely schizo

 

[HOLYFUARK]

I think I am already being gaslit hard tbh

Its either that or im completely schizo

Because you re not her sugar plum anymore or what?

 

[Valeqs]

Ask her to rate you. If its not a 8/10 or above, leave her asap

 

[rand anon]

leave this forum its the best for your mental health

 

[Deleted member 22623]

Because you re not her sugar plum anymore or what?

something like that

 

[AspiringMogger]

Having a backbone is everything. Sit her down and tell her exactly what you don’t like, if she doesn’t change then cheat on her. Everything bad she does after you’ve cheated on her won’t matter cause you’re already the bad person in your relationship. This logic is fucked up but it’s the only way to cope for blackpilled romantics like myself. Either this or sleeping with women you don’t really like.

 

[Deleted member 22623]

Having a backbone is everything. Sit her down and tell her exactly what you don’t like, if she doesn’t change then cheat on her. Everything bad she does after you’ve cheated on her won’t matter cause you’re already the bad person in your relationship. This logic is fucked up but it’s the only way to cope for blackpilled romantics like myself. Either this or sleeping with women you don’t really like.

Makes sense. Although we arent in a relationship, we are simply dating and she seems to be very sexually open.

So I guess the real question is if I can change who she is. But I will meet with her and talk this week, we will see. The idea of playing it cool regardless if I can change her or not and then simply try to cuck her first also intrigues me

 

[AspiringMogger]

Makes sense. Although we arent in a relationship, we are simply dating and she seems to be very sexually open.

So I guess the real question is if I can change who she is. But I will meet with her and talk this week, we will see. The idea of playing it cool regardless if I can change her or not and then simply try to cuck her first also intrigues me

That’s great your arrangement is good then. Don’t try and turn a hoe into a housewife. It’s impossible. Find another foid to pipe while you’re at it.

 

[Akhi]

I think I am already being gaslit hard tbh

Its either that or im completely schizo

talk to you later bro

 

[Akhi]

That’s great your arrangement is good then. Don’t try and turn a hoe into a housewife. It’s impossible. Find another foid to pipe while you’re at it.

this basically, dont undervalue yourself

 

[AspiringMogger]

this basically, dont undervalue yourself

I agree, look at all the things you bring to the table. Women are terrorists and only got 1 level to go up to. Pussy is the only thing they can withhold. If you make it known to her that her pussy holds no meaning to you, she got nothing to blackmail you with.

 

[Deleted member 31767]

Become good looking enough that you start to receive a positive matthew effect/halo effect consistently for years, and then and only then might you start to heal some of the damage

 

[Akhi]

Become good looking enough that you start to receive a positive matthew effect/halo effect consistently for years, and then and only then might you start to heal some of the damage

hes gl enough for that

 

[czwarty]

So I guess the real question is if I can change who she is

I'll give you answer to this question - no.


(although they're also question what you mean by "sexually open", whether she's hoeing around or just another case of "she had two boyfriends before and enjoys sex, what a whore" like is the style of some retards here with madonna-whore complex)

 

[Deleted member 22623]

hes gl enough for that

i dont think so respectfully, but i also think the idea of surviving on validation / looks halo is flawed and unsustainable long term

 

[Deleted member 31767]

i dont think so respectfully, but i also think the idea of surviving on validation / looks halo is flawed and unsustainable long term

The idea isn't that you survive solely on that channel of validation forever, it's that typically abused dogs are created from a lifetime of negative feedback loops vs the naturally born chad who got constant praise and validation ever since he was young. I mean, on paper there's nothing stopping a guy who didn't experience such an upbringing from exuding the confidence/rock solid self-esteem that a chad does, but in practice good luck doing so without some actual, tangible experience to draw from

 

[Akhi]

i dont think so respectfully, but i also think the idea of surviving on validation / looks halo is flawed and unsustainable long term

youre gl enough to get consistent validation because you actually do

but ofc this isnt sustainable at all

 

[Akhi]

The idea isn't that you survive solely on that channel of validation forever, it's that typically abused dogs are created from a lifetime of negative feedback loops vs the naturally born chad who got constant praise and validation ever since he was young. I mean, on paper there's nothing stopping a guy who didn't experience such an upbringing from exuding the confidence/rock solid self-esteem that a chad does, but in practice good luck doing so without some actual, tangible experience to draw from

thats not the case at all, look at all the chadlites here who are constantly trying to gte validation and attention

and he gets that type of validation

 

[Deleted member 22623]

thats not the case at all, look at all the chadlites here who are constantly trying to gte validation and attention

and he gets that type of validation

its NT pill honestly. I don't get constant approaches on a night out, 1-2 maybe, sometimes non

also when I approach I almost exclusively go for MTBs and below unless im hyper confident on stimulants since otherwise I normally get brutally rejected

 

[Deleted member 31767]

thats not the case at all, look at all the chadlites here who are constantly trying to gte validation and attention

and he gets that type of validation

Yea I mean it's not exactly set in stone either way, some guys will chase that dragon forever. I've seen it said that GL people can be incredibly insecure because they know how flimsy looks-based validation is and how easy it is to lose it, and I've also seen arguments that you can't reach a place of giga NTness and muh confidence without a wealth of positive experiences based upon positive validation from growing up/becoming GL.

I suppose it really just comes down to how you are mentally wired. Some guys are destined to be abused dogs for life regardless of their life experiences, while others never become one, and still others do become one but then escape once they looksmax

 

[Deleted member 22623]

The idea isn't that you survive solely on that channel of validation forever, it's that typically abused dogs are created from a lifetime of negative feedback loops vs the naturally born chad who got constant praise and validation ever since he was young. I mean, on paper there's nothing stopping a guy who didn't experience such an upbringing from exuding the confidence/rock solid self-esteem that a chad does, but in practice good luck doing so without some actual, tangible experience to draw from

This is true. I think if I didnt have the validation i did during my high school years I would not be able to be confident in certain situations. But then again, its kind of vain since deep down I suffer from this mentality still when something doesnt go the way I planned it to go, which is problematic

 

[Deleted member 31767]

its NT pill honestly. I don't get constant approaches on a night out, 1-2 maybe, sometimes non

also when I approach I almost exclusively go for MTBs and below unless im hyper confident on stimulants since otherwise I normally get brutally rejected

NT pill is brutal, no surgery for your psychology

 

[Deleted member 22623]

NT pill is brutal, no surgery for your psychology

I meant that I manage to get most of this validation due to being able to act highly NT, not because i am particularly good looking. But yeah, the NT pill is extremely brutal and underrated

 

[Deleted member 31767]

I meant that I manage to get most of this validation due to being able to act highly NT, not because i am particularly good looking. But yeah, the NT pill is extremely brutal and underrated

This is true. I think if I didnt have the validation i did during my high school years I would not be able to be confident in certain situations. But then again, its kind of vain since deep down I suffer from this mentality still when something doesnt go the way I planned it to go, which is problematic

Well I think you already identified the problem. This constant paranoia that you aren't good enough, that she'll leave, etc is fucking up your NTness. So you'll have to work on not letting that paranoia dictate every single thing you do, even if it might be true because hypergamy gonna hypergamy. Basically develop self-sustained confidence and esteem, roll with the punches etc. But it goes back to what I was saying earlier, easier to do that when initially supported by external validation.

It'll take time but it can be done

And OFC looksmax always too, everything is easier when you're attractive, otherwise redpill shit would be all you need to consider. If you're on this forum then you should already know that