How to find Truth

[greycel]

What should you be looking for? What method do you use?

Tell me your ideas

 

[HundredManSlayer]

everything the elite and higher up tell you to do i do the opposite and i learn from similar communities

 

[greycel]

everything the elite and higher up tell you to do i do the opposite and i learn from similar communities

Interesting
Do you not think they will have more access to a Truth than the common man? Given their abundance
So if anybody was to know the Truth, it would be them?

 

[HundredManSlayer]

Interesting
Do you not think they will have more access to a Truth than the common man? Given their abundance
So if anybody was to know the Truth, it would be them?

they give propaganda to the average common man to keep them their slaves

they know the truth absolutely

 

[moggerofhumanity]

Been doing this recently. So I would play devil's advocate with my friend regarding something we'd like to know about, most significant one was religion. It made me realize that Christianity wasn't smth that could easily be debunked

 

[CloudyCuck]

Research

 

[ropemaxx298]

trust yourself. dont be brainwashed by mainstream media

 

[topology]

I always think of reasons why __ could be done for a motive.

I don't really care about the truth though. Doesn't make me gain anything in most cases.

 

[NarrowBoneMarrow]

What the fuck are we even talking about anymore

 

[Don Alejo Garza]

We can't even rely on the traditional definition of knowledge. See the Gettier Problems.

 

[SkiSquadJPG]

The universal path to truth in any given subject can be described as:
- Develop health, if your body is unhealthy it will affect your thoughts due to worsened brain and hormone health.
- Sit/Lie down and think without distractions around you, ponder on the subject that is of your interest.
- Read what others think on the subject and research it if possible until you have formed your own thought on the matter.
- Engage in discussion about subject with person of opposing view as well as with someone who shares your view.
- Finally you should have found the truth. If your view is later proven wrong you should repeat last 3 steps.

 

[Wexilarious]

read all opinions about something

check both in practice

one that doesn't work is scam

 

[Tenres]

Anything particular you mean? But logic, rationality, probabilistic analysis.

More broadly you want to look at many sources and places and see where they converge and how likely something is to be true based on your cumulative knowledge.

 

[Tenres]

We can't even rely on the traditional definition of knowledge. See the Gettier Problems.

Is this really an issue though? Because it really just assumes something that intuitively feels like a justification is, in gettier problems they only seem like justifications prima facie, once more information reveals the "justification" was fundamentally flawed.

 

[greycel]

probabilistic analysis

Yeah this was what I was waiting for
Tell me how you’d go about it

 

[Tenres]

Yeah this was what I was waiting for
Tell me how you’d go about it

Well I guess if you said there was a barn beside your house, for example, I'd want to know if you live in a rural area, if you do that would immediately raise the probability because rural areas have more barns so the chance that a barn would be near your house increases. If you didn't tell me then we could look at how you act or you have speech idiosyncrasies associated with rural areas (this is a distinctly western example, but maybe you use y'all a lot which could indicate you live in the south which would make it more likely).

For different claims it would require a different analysis, but in general it would be doing simple bayesian analysis to see how likely what I can confirm would effect the premise that were considering. For example if you wanted to know if something is true in a news story, the chances of getting something wrong is maybe like 20% or .2 so if 5 news outlets all say the same thing then theres a .2 x .2 x .2 x .2 x .2 chance that they would all get it wrong. Now contextually there might be different cases where they all have incentive to lie in which case the chance of them aligning on something false changes.

A simple way of thinking about is if I assumed something is true, what would also be likely to be the case, and then compare that with reality.