How to function normally like a normie

[Htobrother]

Despite not doing anything for example I try to clean my room etc be productive after 4 hours I have to lie down or Mentally I’m becoming like a zombie and stop fearing anything attention span becomes 0 and I just want to die and can’t even stand up from my bed it feels like I have 500pounds on my shoulders and can’t bear any voices or people when I do too much or talk to people useless small talks
Yes i have diagnosed depression

Any Tipps because I can’t function like this
I started trt 1 week ago maybe it will help

Used to take ssri now I’m on SNRI started today

 

[CupOfCoffee]

Despite not doing anything for example I try to clean my room etc be productive after 4 hours I have to lie down or Mentally I’m becoming like a zombie and stop fearing anything attention span becomes 0 and I just want to die and can’t even stand up from my bed it feels like I have 500pounds on my shoulders and can’t bear any voices or people when I do too much or talk to people useless small talks
Yes i have diagnosed depression

Any Tipps because I can’t function like this
I started trt 1 week ago maybe it will help

Used to take ssri now I’m on SNRI started today

How old are you?

 

[Htobrother]

How old are you?

18

 

[CupOfCoffee]

TRT at 18? Were u roiding before or just naturally low T?

 

[Htobrother]

TRT at 18? Were u roiding before or just naturally low T?

My t was 540ng /dL last 2 years when I did blood work and back then I felt good tbh
It probably crashed even lower because of depression , poor sleep sometimes , etc etc. high dose
antidepressants
No never roided and I don’t think I will

 

[CupOfCoffee]

My t was 540ng /dL last 2 years when I did blood work and back then I felt good tbh
It probably crashed even lower because of depression , poor sleep sometimes , etc etc. high dose
antidepressants
No never roided and I don’t think I will

That's not a bad level. So why do you want TRT? Just want to keep it higher always?

 

[Htobrother]

That's not a bad level. So why do you want TRT? Just want to keep it higher always?

It was not a bad levels yes that was 2 years ago where I felt really good and was lean and more muscular and mentally sharp
But I’m pretty sure they are around 400 or below for now
Antidepressants etc stress , anxiety , fucked my natty t levels up for sure I noticed I can’t get muscle that fast like I used to or burn fat

yes goal is to have optimal steady levels hopefully to help with depression symptoms and increase overall life quality and outlook on life I want to feel normal again bro and to have motivation to do stuff and not being anxious 24/7 and low energy no motivation sucidal

SNRI Venlafafine 72mg in the Morning , Testosterone 1 Ampulle per week 250mg or smth ,
Quetiapin 50mg in the evening

The physical masculinization building muscle easier burning fat more etc effects are just a bonus

 

[CupOfCoffee]

It was not a bad levels yes that was 2 years ago where I felt really good and was lean and more muscular and mentally sharp
But I’m pretty sure they are around 400 or below for now
Antidepressants etc stress , anxiety , fucked my natty t levels up for sure I noticed I can’t get muscle that fast like I used to or burn fat

yes goal is to have optimal steady levels hopefully to help with depression symptoms and increase overall life quality and outlook on life I want to feel normal again bro and to have motivation to do stuff and not being anxious 24/7 and low energy no motivation sucidal

SNRI Venlafafine 72mg in the Morning , Testosterone 1 Ampulle per week 250mg or smth ,
Quetiapin 50mg in the evening

The physical masculinization building muscle easier burning fat more etc effects are just a bonus

Bipolar or nah? And have you looked at trying Wellbutrin

 

[Deleted member 5818]

Wellbutrin or ldar

fuck ssri and snri

 

[Htobrother]

Bipolar or nah? And have you looked at trying Wellbutrin

I don’t know but I don’t think so 3 weeks ago I got again diagnosed with severe depression and generalized anxiety disorder
In a month or so I will visit psych ward
Changed my meds from fluoxetine (Prozac) 40mg cuz they didn’t do shit anymore
To venlafaxine started from today

 

[CupOfCoffee]

Wellbutrin or ldar

fuck ssri and snri

It depends on the kind of depression a person has man.

 

[Htobrother]

Wellbutrin or ldar

fuck ssri and snri

Yes i think also Wellbutrin is the King of antidepressants because it covers everything
But venlafaxine also does it in higher doses
If you take low doses it is a serotonin norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor
In higher doses it’s also a dopamine reuptake inhibitor

 

[Htobrother]

It depends on the kind of depression a person has man.

Yes Bro i don’t want to play own my own triying new stuff because it’s dangerous

 

[CupOfCoffee]

I don’t know but I don’t think so 3 weeks ago I got again diagnosed with severe depression and generalized anxiety disorder
In a month or so I will visit psych ward
Changed my meds from fluoxetine (Prozac) 40mg cuz they didn’t do shit anymore
To venlafaxine started from today

Ssri + Dnri like Wellbutrin is usually a good combo unless you've got bipolar. But anxiety too? Ask your doc about Buspirone. That with TRT can legit change your life, that's my current protocol.

 

[CupOfCoffee]

Also saffron does act as an antidepressant or add-on treatment to offset negative side effects as well

 

[Deleted member 5818]

I don’t know but I don’t think so 3 weeks ago I got again diagnosed with severe depression and generalized anxiety disorder
In a month or so I will visit psych ward
Changed my meds from fluoxetine (Prozac) 40mg cuz they didn’t do shit anymore
To venlafaxine started from today

serotonin antidepressants are a complete meme and make you feel even worse

serotonin is a mediator of inflammation that suppresses metabolism, disturbs blood pressure and promotes clotting

it would be a cruel misfortune if it was essential to experience euphoria but in reality being in a high state of serotonin just makes you even more uncomfortable and depressed

 

[CupOfCoffee]

Yes Bro i don’t want to play own my own triying new stuff because it’s dangerous

Just tell your doc you wanna try and see what they think

 

[Htobrother]

Ssri + Dnri like Wellbutrin is usually a good combo unless you've got bipolar. But anxiety too? Ask your doc about Buspirone. That with TRT can legit change your life, that's my current protocol.

Thx bro i will Note it and talk about it with my psychiatrist
And does it help
What’s your current protocol and how much mg etc ?

 

[Htobrother]

Just tell your doc you wanna try and see what they think

I will when I got to see him again

 

[Htobrother]

Also saffron does act as an antidepressant or add-on treatment to offset negative side effects as well

I doubt that natural stuff will do anything or is it that potent ?

 

[CupOfCoffee]

serotonin antidepressants are a complete meme and make you feel even worse

serotonin is a mediator of inflammation that suppresses metabolism, disturbs blood pressure and promotes clotting

it would be a cruel misfortune if it was essential to experience euphoria but in reality being in a high state of serotonin just makes you even more uncomfortable and depressed

This isn't true. Brain serotonin regulates social hierarchy and social dominance, and it's proven to be the main neurotransmitter for feelings of contentment and happiness. It's obviously not the only factor like some people think tho

 

[Deleted member 5818]

you will bald soon from ssri + t

I can guarantee you

 

[Htobrother]

you will bald soon from ssri + t

I can guarantee you

Why tho I never had problems with ssri or something it just not effective

 

[CupOfCoffee]

Thx bro i will Note it and talk about it with my psychiatrist
And does it help
What’s your current protocol and how much mg etc ?

It's a handful lol

- 300mg Wellbutrin XR.
- 10mg Lexapro
- 10mg Buspirone 2x per day. Might take more if I have something going on.
- 7.5mg Mirtazapine before bed (basically a sleeping aid for me, I'm coming off it soon).
-And I add saffron into my coffee almost everyday.
- Also take high dose CBD oil (150mg) as needed.

And I'm on TRT as well.

Inb4 your body is a chemical factory. Nigga I was depressed and low self esteem, I will do whatever possible to fix it. And things have improved a lot for me thank God

 

[CupOfCoffee]

you will bald soon from ssri + t

I can guarantee you

TF are you talking about?

 

[CupOfCoffee]

I doubt that natural stuff will do anything or is it that potent ?

There's studies proving it to be comparable to prozac. And also reverses sexual dysfunction from SSRIs and SNRIs.

 

[Htobrother]

nice Never had problems with errections or some stuff on these ssris tried serotonin , fluoxetine high doses and the opposite happened with fluoxetine I had more sex drive and stronger errections

There's studies proving it to be comparable to prozac. And also reverses sexual dysfunction from SSRIs and SNRIs.

 

[CupOfCoffee]

nice Never had problems with errections or some stuff on these ssris tried serotonin , fluoxetine high doses and the opposite happened with fluoxetine I had more sex drive and stronger errections

Did you see my post above?

That's strange asf but good thing tbh

 

[Deleted member 5818]

This isn't true. Brain serotonin regulates social hierarchy and social dominance, and it's proven to be the main neurotransmitter for feelings of contentment and happiness. It's obviously not the only factor like some people think tho

Inhibition of tryptophan hydroxylase abolishes fatigue induced by central tryptophan in exercising rats - PubMed

Fatigue during prolonged exercise is related to brain monoamines concentrations, but the mechanisms underlying this relationship have not been fully elucidated. We investigated the effects of increased central tryptophan (TRP) availability on physical performance and thermoregulation in running...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

(PDF) Mice Genetically Depleted of Brain Serotonin Do Not Display a Depression-like Behavioral Phenotype

PDF | Reductions in function within the serotonin (5HT) neuronal system have long been proposed as etiological factors in depression. Serotonin... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

"...The new research findings, which were published recently in the journal PLoS One, focus on the role that the neurotransmitter serotonin plays in the development of social behavior. Serotonin, together with the serotonin receptors it activates in the brain, plays a significant role in neurological processes, including mood, anxiety, aggression and memory.

"...Social anxiety disorder is frequently treated pharmacologically with selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) or serotonin-norepinephrine reuptake inhibitors, several of which are approved by the US Food and Drug Administration for this indication. Nonetheless, only30% to 40% of patients have full and satisfactory responses to these agents...In a study reported in this issue, Fricket et al use positron emission tomography to measure what they consider to be indices of serotonin synthesis and serotonin transporter density. They find that both measures are increased in patients with social anxiety disorder. Interpreting these findings and putting them in context with other related models of anxiety and depression requires an understanding of the functioning of the brain’s serotonin system."

"...Another thing the study found out is the relationship of serotonin to ASD. The results show that about 30 percent of the total number of the correspondents, which are children having the disorder, have hyperserotonemia. When they have undergone tests, their blood exam showed they are positive to have an above normal level of serotonin. With the information gathered, Cascio and her group became certain of how hyperserotonemia affects people with ASD. And to know more about it, she said that the group is currently working to prove their hypothesis, which she believes will be a stable ground for future research."


"...The investigators then ran another experiment with the same setup but fed the slugs drugs that increase or decrease their serotonin levels, namely, the antidepressant fluoxetine (Prozac) and the anti-histamine cyproheptadine (Periactin), respectively. Serotonin makes the most logical target because it has been implicated in host-manipulation by other parasites, says Rae. They found that increasing serotonin in uninfected slugs made them seek out nematodes, while decreasing serotonin in infected slugs removed their affinity for nematodes. The results hint that serotonin is part of the nematode’s control over slugs, but this still has to be confirmed directly, says Rae."

^ Serotonin makes you into an Obedient Zombie - A government's wet dream

Why tho I never had problems with ssri or something it just not effective

TF are you talking about?

SSRIs work by forcing the brain to achieve homeostasis, not by modulating serotonin levels.

Cortisol <> Prolactin <> Estrogen <> Serotonin <- These are the main culprits in balding

* Serotonin increases prolactin, which may increase hair loss
*Prolactin increaes Interleukin-6, an inflammatory marker that is
correlated with hair loss.
*Prolactin inhibits thyroid function (Kharrazian), and low
thyroid promotes prolactin, which can both cause hair loss.

Serotonin seems to reduce blood supply to the skin. - every balding man has circulation issues. (yes)

inb4 muh its all DHT!!!! I do believe DHT plays a role ofc (why finasteride works a little) I think it's a downstream of more important issues(namely above) - which are issues of other issues, summarised as low energy and poor health

I noticed I can’t get muscle that fast like I used to or burn fat

serotonin caused muscular dystrophy. Subsequent studies suggest that serotonin excess is involved in both muscular and nervous dystrophy or degeneration.





cba 2 format this well so w/e

 

[Htobrother]

Did you see my post above?

That's strange asf but good thing tbh

No bro can you link it

 

[Htobrother]

Inhibition of tryptophan hydroxylase abolishes fatigue induced by central tryptophan in exercising rats - PubMed

Fatigue during prolonged exercise is related to brain monoamines concentrations, but the mechanisms underlying this relationship have not been fully elucidated. We investigated the effects of increased central tryptophan (TRP) availability on physical performance and thermoregulation in running...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

(PDF) Mice Genetically Depleted of Brain Serotonin Do Not Display a Depression-like Behavioral Phenotype

PDF | Reductions in function within the serotonin (5HT) neuronal system have long been proposed as etiological factors in depression. Serotonin... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

"...The new research findings, which were published recently in the journal PLoS One, focus on the role that the neurotransmitter serotonin plays in the development of social behavior. Serotonin, together with the serotonin receptors it activates in the brain, plays a significant role in neurological processes, including mood, anxiety, aggression and memory.

"...Social anxiety disorder is frequently treated pharmacologically with selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) or serotonin-norepinephrine reuptake inhibitors, several of which are approved by the US Food and Drug Administration for this indication. Nonetheless, only30% to 40% of patients have full and satisfactory responses to these agents...In a study reported in this issue, Fricket et al use positron emission tomography to measure what they consider to be indices of serotonin synthesis and serotonin transporter density. They find that both measures are increased in patients with social anxiety disorder. Interpreting these findings and putting them in context with other related models of anxiety and depression requires an understanding of the functioning of the brain’s serotonin system."

"...Another thing the study found out is the relationship of serotonin to ASD. The results show that about 30 percent of the total number of the correspondents, which are children having the disorder, have hyperserotonemia. When they have undergone tests, their blood exam showed they are positive to have an above normal level of serotonin. With the information gathered, Cascio and her group became certain of how hyperserotonemia affects people with ASD. And to know more about it, she said that the group is currently working to prove their hypothesis, which she believes will be a stable ground for future research."


"...The investigators then ran another experiment with the same setup but fed the slugs drugs that increase or decrease their serotonin levels, namely, the antidepressant fluoxetine (Prozac) and the anti-histamine cyproheptadine (Periactin), respectively. Serotonin makes the most logical target because it has been implicated in host-manipulation by other parasites, says Rae. They found that increasing serotonin in uninfected slugs made them seek out nematodes, while decreasing serotonin in infected slugs removed their affinity for nematodes. The results hint that serotonin is part of the nematode’s control over slugs, but this still has to be confirmed directly, says Rae."

^ Serotonin makes you into an Obedient Zombie - A government's wet dream



SSRIs work by forcing the brain to achieve homeostasis, not by modulating serotonin levels.

Cortisol <> Prolactin <> Estrogen <> Serotonin <- These are the main culprits in balding

* Serotonin increases prolactin, which may increase hair loss
*Prolactin increaes Interleukin-6, an inflammatory marker that is
correlated with hair loss.
*Prolactin inhibits thyroid function (Kharrazian), and low
thyroid promotes prolactin, which can both cause hair loss.

Serotonin seems to reduce blood supply to the skin. - every balding man has circulation issues. (yes)

inb4 muh its all DHT!!!! I do believe DHT plays a role ofc (why finasteride works a little) I think it's a downstream of more important issues(namely above) - which are issues of other issues, summarised as low energy and poor health

serotonin caused muscular dystrophy. Subsequent studies suggest that serotonin excess is involved in both muscular and nervous dystrophy or degeneration.





cba 2 format this well so w/e

Those are studies on rats not humans

 

[CupOfCoffee]

It's a handful lol

- 300mg Wellbutrin XR.
- 10mg Lexapro
- 10mg Buspirone 2x per day. Might take more if I have something going on.
- 7.5mg Mirtazapine before bed (basically a sleeping aid for me, I'm coming off it soon).
-And I add saffron into my coffee almost everyday.
- Also take high dose CBD oil (150mg) as needed.

And I'm on TRT as well.

Inb4 your body is a chemical factory. Nigga I was depressed and low self esteem, I will do whatever possible to fix it. And things have improved a lot for me thank God

 

[Deleted member 5818]

Those are studies on rats not humans

lol

 

[CupOfCoffee]

Those are studies on rats not humans

All the studies on humans show serotonin to be hugely important. I don't get why people online pretend to understand science

 

[Deleted member 5818]

All the studies on humans show serotonin to be hugely important. I don't get why people online pretend to understand science

kys tbh

mossad agent clown

keep chewing down on your obedience pills you coping faggot - literally the SSRIs speaking and helping you cope

it sure is in the governments best interest to keep your health perfect and keep you questioning the system indeed!

 

[Htobrother]

kys tbh

mossad agent clown

keep chewing down on your obedience pills you coping faggot - literally the SSRIs speaking and helping you cope

it sure is in the governments best interest to keep your health perfect and keep you questioning the system indeed!

Without SSRI I wouldn’t be here

 

[CupOfCoffee]

kys tbh

mossad agent clown

keep chewing down on your obedience pills you coping faggot - literally the SSRIs speaking and helping you cope

it sure is in the governments best interest to keep your health perfect and keep you questioning the system indeed!

Bro I do question the system. But not when there is clearly a solution to depression that has been proven for 50 years to work for most people.

 

[CupOfCoffee]

Without SSRI I wouldn’t be here

These people don't understand shit.

 

[Deleted member 5818]

Without SSRI I wouldn’t be here

indeed because SSRIs keep you into an obediant submissive clown who stays static in life

you are depressed because of your subhuman environment/health or because your mother got shot in the head by a nigger with a shotgun in a drive by.

did you have a traumatic event like this? or are you just an unhealthy subhuman cunt who instead of fixing his shit health which is making him depressed and moving forward in life decides to gobble down some obedience golden eggs of the jews

you're not living. you might as well just kys

Bro I do question the system. But not when there is clearly a solution to depression that has been proven for 50 years to work for most people.

Are you happy? lol

 

[dasani water]

Have you ever tried ashwagandha?

 

[CupOfCoffee]

indeed because SSRIs keep you into an obediant submissive clown who stays static in life

you are depressed because of your subhuman environment or because your mother got shot in the head with a shotgun in a drive by.

did you have a traumatic event like this? or are you just an unhealthy subhuman cunt who instead of fixing his shit health which is making him depressed and moving forward in life decides to gobble down some obedience golden eggs of the jews

you're not living. you might as well just kys

I was in very good health and still depressed. Had a loving gf with lots of sex and still depressed. Got a social circle, still depressed. Got new job, still depressed. I was lifting and doing tons of cardio and eating good foods. It is a structural issue with our brains. I got on SSRI and I slowly started changing into having a better outlook on life and more sociable. This doesn't mean I'm an obedient slave to the system, what kind of bullshit is that lol.

Btw, do you know the difference between serum serotonin and brain serotonin?

 

[Htobrother]

indeed because SSRIs keep you into an obediant submissive clown who stays static in life

you are depressed because of your subhuman environment/health or because your mother got shot in the head by a nigger with a shotgun in a drive by.

did you have a traumatic event like this? or are you just an unhealthy subhuman cunt who instead of fixing his shit health which is making him depressed and moving forward in life decides to gobble down some obedience golden eggs of the jews

you're not living. you might as well just kys


Are you happy? lol

I was in very good health and still depressed. Had a loving gf with lots of sex and still depressed. Got a social circle, still depressed. Got new job, still depressed. I was lifting and doing tons of cardio and eating good foods. It is a structural issue with our brains. I got on SSRI and I slowly started changing into having a better outlook on life and more sociable. This doesn't mean I'm an obedient slave to the system, what kind of bullshit is that lol.

Btw, do you know the difference between serum serotonin and brain serotonin?

People who don’t have it don’t know shit but when they have small depressive Episode for a Short Period they start criying about That Short Episode jfl , if they only knew what is to be in chronic state

 

[CupOfCoffee]

People who don’t have it don’t know shit but when they have small depressive Episode for a Short Period they start criying about That Short Episode jfl , if they only knew what is to be in chronic state

I'm kind of reaching a point where I don't think it's worth debating this topic. This guy posted studies about autism and higher serotonin. I don't even think he knows how blood serotonin and serotonin in the brain are not the same at all. Infact autistic people break down more brain serotonin which leads to them having more in the serum. So they actually have deficient serotonin activity. No need to debate this topic further lol

 

[Deleted member 5818]

I was in very good health and still depressed. Had a loving gf with lots of sex and still depressed. Got a social circle, still depressed. Got new job, still depressed. I was lifting and doing tons of cardio and eating good foods. It is a structural issue with our brains. I got on SSRI and I slowly started changing into having a better outlook on life and more sociable. This doesn't mean I'm an obedient slave to the system, what kind of bullshit is that lol.

Btw, do you know the difference between serum serotonin and brain serotonin?

Yes

In the brain, serotonin regulates circulation and mitochondrial function, temperature, respiration and appetite, alertness and learning, secretion of prolactin, growth hormones and stress hormones, and participates in the most complex biochemical webs.

Serotonin increases the permeability of the intestine and blood vessels, and so is likely to be a major cause of the absorption of endotoxin (and other harmful material) during intestinal irritation or stress.

"It is a structural issue with our brains"
Indeed this utter cope, feel free to show me one study implying this - make sure it's not mossad sponsored too

Also - you weren't healthy. you think you know what's healthy but you don't (no offence - you're a victim)

People who don’t have it don’t know shit but when they have small depressive Episode for a Short Period they start criying about That Short Episode jfl , if they only knew what is to be in chronic state

I was chronically depressed too, but my spirits are looking up. I dn swallow SSRIs like a sheep like you, although I don't blame you for it.

 

[CupOfCoffee]

Are you happy? lol

Yes

 

[CupOfCoffee]

I'm done go on thinking you're special and know better than literally all psychiatrists bro. JFL

 

[Deleted member 5818]

I'm done go on thinking you're special and know better than literally all psychiatrists bro. JFL

you=stuck in the box

I can't say I didn't try

 

[mogstar]

Wellbutrin or ldar

fuck ssri and snri

 

[Deleted member 5818]

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Kiss me then

 

[CupOfCoffee]

mossad sponsored

If I ever see this kind of statement, I know automatically it's coming from a place of pure ignorance