How to gain 15KG (33lb) of quality mass in 8 weeks

[asdvek]

Hey man, it's not my fault your Trenbolone isn't doing anything. Try eating more, training harder, or having better genetics.

Bye for now.

retard im not on tren haha i did it ages ago for 2 weeks and it was fake thankfully since with my current mind i wouldnt touch tren

and exposed your larps jfl, kys kys u didnt put on shit

 

[MogsMost]

retard im not on tren haha i did it ages ago for 2 weeks and it was fake thankfully since with my current mind i wouldnt touch tren

and exposed your larps jfl, kys kys u didnt put on shit

Went through a bit of your post history, you're a complete retard and I'm currently JFL at me wasting my time on you.

16 year old fag 2024 account tiktokcel, awesome.

No wonder you see legit threads and shit yourself.

 

[asdvek]

Went through a bit of your post history, you're a complete retard and I'm currently JFL at me wasting my time on you.

16 year old fag 2024 account tiktokcel, awesome.

No wonder you see legit threads and shit yourself.

tiktokcel (?) never used tiktok nor do i have account nor do i watch tiktoks

not 16

and yeah you started talking about other stuff when your larp got addressed (putting on 12kg of muscle mass in 8 weeks with sarm apparently )

this thread is dogshit bro not legit and ur larping hard

 

[MogsMost]

tiktokcel (?) never used tiktok nor do i have account nor do i watch tiktoks

not 16

and yeah you started talking about other stuff when your larp got addressed (putting on 12kg of muscle mass in 8 weeks with sarm apparently )

this thread is dogshit bro not legit and ur larping hard

I've been addressing your accusations for like my past 5 responses, I've said all that needs to be said.

Sorry not 16, 15.

 

[MogsMost]

When I post here I do it properly because believe it or not this is a looksmaxxing website and not a hate circlejerk website (at least by name)

If you want to bitch and moan go to .is

I've posted maybe 4 or 5 threads here and one is in BOTB. You've posted 13,000 waste of time comments that everyone here could have gone without.

My suggestion, save the thread content, delete your account, try what I posted, and tell me how you DIDN'T gain at least 7kg using this.

 

[Rea]

I did it following this exact method. It was not all muscle, but it was mass. I went from benching 60kg to 100 in 8 weeks.

it was mostly water retention and fat jfl

 

[MogsMost]

it was mostly water retention and fat jfl

Does water retention and fat double my bench? Even when I'm off cycle?

 

[MogsMost]

You niggas are genuinely retarded go back to bonesmashing and complaining about facial ratios. If you want to gain weight, here's how to do it.

If not, all good.

Logging off for another few months.

 

[Deleted member 33409]

The title is enough of an explanation.

This is the method that worked for me. If you follow the proper steps, it will likely work for you too.

I don't consider my results wondrous by any stretch of the imagination, but definitely on the higher end. With the following guide, I would realistically expect to gain anywhere between 7-15kg depending on your genetics, eating habits and training schedule. If you are a skinny guy, expect to gain a lot using this method.

The following information should only be used and applied by those 18+. I take absolutely no responsibility for anyone following this guide, and those with underdeveloped brains should most definitely not be using PEDs, so I strongly suggest against children attempting this. I know you will do it anyway, just know I'm telling you not to.

Now that's out of the way.

What you will need.
1. A dropper bottle of LGD-4033 - A typical bottle should last you enough for a full cycle. I will expand on this later.
2. Some form of liver guard - I prefer N-Acetyl Cysteine.
3. A gym membership - Whichever gym you like will work. Needs to have free weights and machines in order to complete optimal training.
4. A shit load of food - Make sure you have enough money to buy quality food consistently, and a lot of it.


LGD-4033. The Most Important Piece of the Puzzle.
LGD-4033 (Ligandrol) is a mass-gaining SARM plain and simple. SARMs essentially "bind" to androgen receptors, replacing testosterone, and help you to gain muscle, fast. The strength of LGD has been measured at 500:1 with pure T, meaning it's 500 times stronger on a gram for gram basis.

It is not a dry compound like RAD or Anavar, but a wet one, so along with the muscle mass gain, you will also put on some water weight and minor amounts of fat if you're eating far too much. LGD can be sourced from a variety of places online, I suggest browsing Reddit to find notable trusted vendors that will deliver you what you paid for. Keep in mind LGD is a research chemical and is not legal in most places. I seriously doubt you'd get into trouble for possessing or using it, but it is quite hard to find a "real" source for this reason. Fakes online will sell you prohormones labelled as SARMs and they can do serious damage, so don't try to cut corners and save money on this step, it's not worth it.

LGD should be taken about 30-45 minutes before a gym session, so it kicks in right before you start. As soon as you hop on, the effects will be immediately noticeable. Massively increased stamina. Increased strength. Harder pumps. The entire gym experience is elevated.

The cycle I followed was the following. Each dose was taken 30-45 minutes before the gym, and I was working out 5 times a week. Be sure to dose 7 times a week regardless of your gym schedule, as the compound also helps massively with muscle growth and recovery. A typical bottle will run 10mg/ml, so these doses are less than 1ml taken orally. Typically, SARMs taste like battery acid, so try to have some gum around to mask the taste. I wouldn't recommend mixing it with anything.

Week 1 - 5mg / day
Week 2 - 5mg / day
Week 3 - 5mg / day
Week 4 - 5mg / day
Week 5 - 6mg / day
Week 6 - 6mg / day
Week 7 - 7mg / day
Week 8 - 7mg / day

The reason for the tapering up is to account for any potential plateaus. Don't listen to anyone who says you need to use upwards of 8mg per day in order for the compound to be effective. You can see noticeable changes after 8 weeks on even 2mg / day. 5mg / day is a responsible dose, and anything higher will lead to negligible returns that will be outweighed by the increase in testosterone suppression and negative side effects.

Visual changes will start to kick around the 3-week mark. You'll see increased definition and general mass. By 8 weeks your physique will be unrecognisable. I've done this exact cycle twice and gained over 10kg both times. I started at 69kg, and after my first cycle I was 85. I then stopped working out for a while, dropped to 75 and gained back to 85 on another cycle. Both cycles lasted 8 weeks. I am planning to replicate this exact cycle again starting this week, starting at 80kg and working my way up to roughly 100kg, on and off the gear. If you continue working out after your cycle as I did the first time, you can easily retain around 80% or more of any gained mass. After my first cycle, I sat at 85kg until I stopped working out.

Although LGD is suppressive, if you're a healthy young man, PCT is not needed. Some people have suggested SERMs as I believe @pneumocystosis did in his thread a while ago about RAD, but these are not really necessary. If you'd like, for peace of mind, pick up some Enclo and run that in the last 4 weeks of your cycle, and for the 4 weeks following your cycle. RAD has far more known side effects than LGD, so despite LGD's harsher strength, it is generally safer on your hair and balls.


Protecting your liver.
LGD and most other oral compounds are liver-toxic, but this issue is easily navigable and preventable by picking up some NAC online or from a local store. N-acetyl cysteine is a hospital-grade liver guard that's used to treat people with liver diseases and poisoning, so it'll work on you. Take a gram of it in some water or with a capsule (preferred as it tastes like rotten eggs and citric acid) at any point during the day, every day, and you will have no issues.

While on SARMs you shouldn't really be drinking any alcohol at all. I made the mistake the first time of taking my NAC inconsistently, got incredibly drunk one night and woke up feeling like someone had shot me in my stomach. Having liver damage is extremely painful, so don't skip this step. I have found, however, that drinking while on SARMs is fine if you're taking NAC consistently in higher doses in my experience, and it's also good for preventing hangovers, so I take it often before I go out nowadays. Don't take my word for it though.


Gym membership and split.
You need to work out HARD to see the gains. This is fucking obvious. I ran a modified PPL split wherein my Mondays were dedicated to push (great way to start the week), Tuesdays were pull days, Wednesdays were leg days, Thursdays were push days and Fridays were pull days. The increased recovery time with LGD means you can essentially hit the gym every day and feel fine, but your muscles need to regrow after being damaged in order to get stronger, so be sure to take some time off. As crazy as this may sound, you can even take a 4-5 days straight off working out at about the 6-7 week mark if you want to see some serious strength increases. I did this on my second cycle and increased my bench max by 15kg. Give shit time to happen and it will happen. If anyone wants my exact split let me know and I will comment it. Keep in mind it is tailored to how I like to work out and might not be right for you, but generally it's pretty balanced.

A gym session should last you no longer than an hour. Prioritise volume on working sets. The more reps you can get out, the more muscle fibres you're breaking down. I would normally end my sessions with drop sets of one particular exercise, on pull days it was seated bicep curls, on push days it was chest press or pectoral flies. This is IMO the best way to maximise gains on a cycle, as you squeeze every last drop of energy and endurance out before leaving the gym. People who are in the gym for more than an hour a day are wasting their time, taking breaks that are too long, or getting distracted. You should not physically be able to continue after an hour of hard physical exertion. If you're not tired by the time you leave, change your split, it's not working.


Eating
Lots of quality food. I never drank a single protein shake or any sort of "muscle-gaining" product during any of my cycles. All you need to do is eat a lot of food and work out hard. I would typically have two bowls of cereal for breakfast, a large lunch and two servings of dinner, along with extra snacks and a lot of flavoured milk. Not exactly the cleanest diet of all time, but if you're a skinny cunt, it doesn't fucking matter, just eat, and you can burn the fat off once you're not victim weight anymore.

Most of the meat I was eating was beef and chicken, as these are pretty lean, but as long as you're consuming a decent amount of protein, you'll be fine. I didn't track macros. If you think you haven't hit your macro goals for the day, just eat more food. It's not that fucking hard. You will not be making any gains if you're not consuming well in excess of what you usually do.


When to stop.
Stop the cycle immediately if you're feeling sick, gaining cystic body acne, or feeling seriously suppressed. These are not good signs. Minor hair shedding is normal and not permanent, and this is even worse when using RAD. There may be some minor sides you may notice beside this, but you can look up research papers on LGD and come to your own conclusion. Personally, the worst side I got was a bit of extra hair coming out after a shower. A small trade-off for getting fucking yolked in 2 months.

Conclusion.
I am open to answering any questions about this topic. I won't be sharing any pictures because that's not something that I ever do or ever will do. You can take my word for it or not, but I wouldn't write this all up just to talk shit. I'm not trying to sell you anything, do your own research and make sure that this is possible and responsible for you to do.

You don't need any other compounds to make this work. This is literally the only $100 you'll ever spend on a 30ml bottle that will change your fucking life forever. No need for MK677, no need for PCT, no need to inject, nothing. The choice is yours anon.

test e 500
Drostanolone propionate

 

[asdvek]

I've been addressing your accusations for like my past 5 responses, I've said all that needs to be said.

Sorry not 16, 15.

Retard 12kg of muscle mass ye ye we are talking about your shit not mine stupid larping fag

 

[normie tiktoker]

TRT is one of the safer things you could do. Prescribed by doctors for those who need it. Can't see how that's really sketchy at all. I'm talking when I'm well into my 40s-50s.

semi true but its just a dependency thing for me. i want to have all my personal belongings fit in a bag for life.

Russo was wrong. The testosterone that is unused now by the receptors (taken by the SARMS) is aromatised into DHT or E (genetically dependent)

ehh.. it can indirectly reduce DHT for low t people which is mega important for dimorphism.

 

[normie tiktoker]

might aswell blast a bit of mast & test to keep plates open tho.. need bone mass

 

[asdvek]

Good luck with "pct" after Deca tho

You don't pct after deca

Nobody does that

Pct is a shit thing anyway

If ur gonna use roids accept ur hormones are gonna be fucked up Do TRT not PCT

PCt will make u lose ur gains

And your hormones will never be like they used to be after pct and you'll be Low T

So PCT is shit

And u cant pct 19nors anyway deca shuts down natural test system for 12-18 months

 

[LilJojo]

The title is enough of an explanation.

This is the method that worked for me. If you follow the proper steps, it will likely work for you too.

I don't consider my results wondrous by any stretch of the imagination, but definitely on the higher end. With the following guide, I would realistically expect to gain anywhere between 7-15kg depending on your genetics, eating habits and training schedule. If you are a skinny guy, expect to gain a lot using this method.

The following information should only be used and applied by those 18+. I take absolutely no responsibility for anyone following this guide, and those with underdeveloped brains should most definitely not be using PEDs, so I strongly suggest against children attempting this. I know you will do it anyway, just know I'm telling you not to.

Now that's out of the way.

What you will need.
1. A dropper bottle of LGD-4033 - A typical bottle should last you enough for a full cycle. I will expand on this later.
2. Some form of liver guard - I prefer N-Acetyl Cysteine.
3. A gym membership - Whichever gym you like will work. Needs to have free weights and machines in order to complete optimal training.
4. A shit load of food - Make sure you have enough money to buy quality food consistently, and a lot of it.


LGD-4033. The Most Important Piece of the Puzzle.
LGD-4033 (Ligandrol) is a mass-gaining SARM plain and simple. SARMs essentially "bind" to androgen receptors, replacing testosterone, and help you to gain muscle, fast. The strength of LGD has been measured at 500:1 with pure T, meaning it's 500 times stronger on a gram for gram basis.

It is not a dry compound like RAD or Anavar, but a wet one, so along with the muscle mass gain, you will also put on some water weight and minor amounts of fat if you're eating far too much. LGD can be sourced from a variety of places online, I suggest browsing Reddit to find notable trusted vendors that will deliver you what you paid for. Keep in mind LGD is a research chemical and is not legal in most places. I seriously doubt you'd get into trouble for possessing or using it, but it is quite hard to find a "real" source for this reason. Fakes online will sell you prohormones labelled as SARMs and they can do serious damage, so don't try to cut corners and save money on this step, it's not worth it.

LGD should be taken about 30-45 minutes before a gym session, so it kicks in right before you start. As soon as you hop on, the effects will be immediately noticeable. Massively increased stamina. Increased strength. Harder pumps. The entire gym experience is elevated.

The cycle I followed was the following. Each dose was taken 30-45 minutes before the gym, and I was working out 5 times a week. Be sure to dose 7 times a week regardless of your gym schedule, as the compound also helps massively with muscle growth and recovery. A typical bottle will run 10mg/ml, so these doses are less than 1ml taken orally. Typically, SARMs taste like battery acid, so try to have some gum around to mask the taste. I wouldn't recommend mixing it with anything.

Week 1 - 5mg / day
Week 2 - 5mg / day
Week 3 - 5mg / day
Week 4 - 5mg / day
Week 5 - 6mg / day
Week 6 - 6mg / day
Week 7 - 7mg / day
Week 8 - 7mg / day

The reason for the tapering up is to account for any potential plateaus. Don't listen to anyone who says you need to use upwards of 8mg per day in order for the compound to be effective. You can see noticeable changes after 8 weeks on even 2mg / day. 5mg / day is a responsible dose, and anything higher will lead to negligible returns that will be outweighed by the increase in testosterone suppression and negative side effects.

Visual changes will start to kick around the 3-week mark. You'll see increased definition and general mass. By 8 weeks your physique will be unrecognisable. I've done this exact cycle twice and gained over 10kg both times. I started at 69kg, and after my first cycle I was 85. I then stopped working out for a while, dropped to 75 and gained back to 85 on another cycle. Both cycles lasted 8 weeks. I am planning to replicate this exact cycle again starting this week, starting at 80kg and working my way up to roughly 100kg, on and off the gear. If you continue working out after your cycle as I did the first time, you can easily retain around 80% or more of any gained mass. After my first cycle, I sat at 85kg until I stopped working out.

Although LGD is suppressive, if you're a healthy young man, PCT is not needed. Some people have suggested SERMs as I believe @pneumocystosis did in his thread a while ago about RAD, but these are not really necessary. If you'd like, for peace of mind, pick up some Enclo and run that in the last 4 weeks of your cycle, and for the 4 weeks following your cycle. RAD has far more known side effects than LGD, so despite LGD's harsher strength, it is generally safer on your hair and balls.


Protecting your liver.
LGD and most other oral compounds are liver-toxic, but this issue is easily navigable and preventable by picking up some NAC online or from a local store. N-acetyl cysteine is a hospital-grade liver guard that's used to treat people with liver diseases and poisoning, so it'll work on you. Take a gram of it in some water or with a capsule (preferred as it tastes like rotten eggs and citric acid) at any point during the day, every day, and you will have no issues.

While on SARMs you shouldn't really be drinking any alcohol at all. I made the mistake the first time of taking my NAC inconsistently, got incredibly drunk one night and woke up feeling like someone had shot me in my stomach. Having liver damage is extremely painful, so don't skip this step. I have found, however, that drinking while on SARMs is fine if you're taking NAC consistently in higher doses in my experience, and it's also good for preventing hangovers, so I take it often before I go out nowadays. Don't take my word for it though.


Gym membership and split.
You need to work out HARD to see the gains. This is fucking obvious. I ran a modified PPL split wherein my Mondays were dedicated to push (great way to start the week), Tuesdays were pull days, Wednesdays were leg days, Thursdays were push days and Fridays were pull days. The increased recovery time with LGD means you can essentially hit the gym every day and feel fine, but your muscles need to regrow after being damaged in order to get stronger, so be sure to take some time off. As crazy as this may sound, you can even take a 4-5 days straight off working out at about the 6-7 week mark if you want to see some serious strength increases. I did this on my second cycle and increased my bench max by 15kg. Give shit time to happen and it will happen. If anyone wants my exact split let me know and I will comment it. Keep in mind it is tailored to how I like to work out and might not be right for you, but generally it's pretty balanced.

A gym session should last you no longer than an hour. Prioritise volume on working sets. The more reps you can get out, the more muscle fibres you're breaking down. I would normally end my sessions with drop sets of one particular exercise, on pull days it was seated bicep curls, on push days it was chest press or pectoral flies. This is IMO the best way to maximise gains on a cycle, as you squeeze every last drop of energy and endurance out before leaving the gym. People who are in the gym for more than an hour a day are wasting their time, taking breaks that are too long, or getting distracted. You should not physically be able to continue after an hour of hard physical exertion. If you're not tired by the time you leave, change your split, it's not working.


Eating
Lots of quality food. I never drank a single protein shake or any sort of "muscle-gaining" product during any of my cycles. All you need to do is eat a lot of food and work out hard. I would typically have two bowls of cereal for breakfast, a large lunch and two servings of dinner, along with extra snacks and a lot of flavoured milk. Not exactly the cleanest diet of all time, but if you're a skinny cunt, it doesn't fucking matter, just eat, and you can burn the fat off once you're not victim weight anymore.

Most of the meat I was eating was beef and chicken, as these are pretty lean, but as long as you're consuming a decent amount of protein, you'll be fine. I didn't track macros. If you think you haven't hit your macro goals for the day, just eat more food. It's not that fucking hard. You will not be making any gains if you're not consuming well in excess of what you usually do.


When to stop.
Stop the cycle immediately if you're feeling sick, gaining cystic body acne, or feeling seriously suppressed. These are not good signs. Minor hair shedding is normal and not permanent, and this is even worse when using RAD. There may be some minor sides you may notice beside this, but you can look up research papers on LGD and come to your own conclusion. Personally, the worst side I got was a bit of extra hair coming out after a shower. A small trade-off for getting fucking yolked in 2 months.

Conclusion.
I am open to answering any questions about this topic. I won't be sharing any pictures because that's not something that I ever do or ever will do. You can take my word for it or not, but I wouldn't write this all up just to talk shit. I'm not trying to sell you anything, do your own research and make sure that this is possible and responsible for you to do.

You don't need any other compounds to make this work. This is literally the only $100 you'll ever spend on a 30ml bottle that will change your fucking life forever. No need for MK677, no need for PCT, no need to inject, nothing. The choice is yours anon.

OP needs to be banned. If you had gained so much muscle your bench wouldn’t be 205 fucking retard. Ruined your hormonal system to bench the same as 17yo gymbros. Hope you destroy yourself more

 

[MA_ascender]

You don't pct after deca

Nobody does that

Pct is a shit thing anyway

If ur gonna use roids accept ur hormones are gonna be fucked up Do TRT not PCT

PCt will make u lose ur gains

And your hormones will never be like they used to be after pct and you'll be Low T

So PCT is shit

And u cant pct 19nors anyway deca shuts down natural test system for 12-18 months

Yeah that's what I said

 

[ZAATOP4]

The title is enough of an explanation.

This is the method that worked for me. If you follow the proper steps, it will likely work for you too.

I don't consider my results wondrous by any stretch of the imagination, but definitely on the higher end. With the following guide, I would realistically expect to gain anywhere between 7-15kg depending on your genetics, eating habits and training schedule. If you are a skinny guy, expect to gain a lot using this method.

The following information should only be used and applied by those 18+. I take absolutely no responsibility for anyone following this guide, and those with underdeveloped brains should most definitely not be using PEDs, so I strongly suggest against children attempting this. I know you will do it anyway, just know I'm telling you not to.

Now that's out of the way.

What you will need.
1. A dropper bottle of LGD-4033 - A typical bottle should last you enough for a full cycle. I will expand on this later.
2. Some form of liver guard - I prefer N-Acetyl Cysteine.
3. A gym membership - Whichever gym you like will work. Needs to have free weights and machines in order to complete optimal training.
4. A shit load of food - Make sure you have enough money to buy quality food consistently, and a lot of it.


LGD-4033. The Most Important Piece of the Puzzle.
LGD-4033 (Ligandrol) is a mass-gaining SARM plain and simple. SARMs essentially "bind" to androgen receptors, replacing testosterone, and help you to gain muscle, fast. The strength of LGD has been measured at 500:1 with pure T, meaning it's 500 times stronger on a gram for gram basis.

It is not a dry compound like RAD or Anavar, but a wet one, so along with the muscle mass gain, you will also put on some water weight and minor amounts of fat if you're eating far too much. LGD can be sourced from a variety of places online, I suggest browsing Reddit to find notable trusted vendors that will deliver you what you paid for. Keep in mind LGD is a research chemical and is not legal in most places. I seriously doubt you'd get into trouble for possessing or using it, but it is quite hard to find a "real" source for this reason. Fakes online will sell you prohormones labelled as SARMs and they can do serious damage, so don't try to cut corners and save money on this step, it's not worth it.

LGD should be taken about 30-45 minutes before a gym session, so it kicks in right before you start. As soon as you hop on, the effects will be immediately noticeable. Massively increased stamina. Increased strength. Harder pumps. The entire gym experience is elevated.

The cycle I followed was the following. Each dose was taken 30-45 minutes before the gym, and I was working out 5 times a week. Be sure to dose 7 times a week regardless of your gym schedule, as the compound also helps massively with muscle growth and recovery. A typical bottle will run 10mg/ml, so these doses are less than 1ml taken orally. Typically, SARMs taste like battery acid, so try to have some gum around to mask the taste. I wouldn't recommend mixing it with anything.

Week 1 - 5mg / day
Week 2 - 5mg / day
Week 3 - 5mg / day
Week 4 - 5mg / day
Week 5 - 6mg / day
Week 6 - 6mg / day
Week 7 - 7mg / day
Week 8 - 7mg / day

The reason for the tapering up is to account for any potential plateaus. Don't listen to anyone who says you need to use upwards of 8mg per day in order for the compound to be effective. You can see noticeable changes after 8 weeks on even 2mg / day. 5mg / day is a responsible dose, and anything higher will lead to negligible returns that will be outweighed by the increase in testosterone suppression and negative side effects.

Visual changes will start to kick around the 3-week mark. You'll see increased definition and general mass. By 8 weeks your physique will be unrecognisable. I've done this exact cycle twice and gained over 10kg both times. I started at 69kg, and after my first cycle I was 85. I then stopped working out for a while, dropped to 75 and gained back to 85 on another cycle. Both cycles lasted 8 weeks. I am planning to replicate this exact cycle again starting this week, starting at 80kg and working my way up to roughly 100kg, on and off the gear. If you continue working out after your cycle as I did the first time, you can easily retain around 80% or more of any gained mass. After my first cycle, I sat at 85kg until I stopped working out.

Although LGD is suppressive, if you're a healthy young man, PCT is not needed. Some people have suggested SERMs as I believe @pneumocystosis did in his thread a while ago about RAD, but these are not really necessary. If you'd like, for peace of mind, pick up some Enclo and run that in the last 4 weeks of your cycle, and for the 4 weeks following your cycle. RAD has far more known side effects than LGD, so despite LGD's harsher strength, it is generally safer on your hair and balls.


Protecting your liver.
LGD and most other oral compounds are liver-toxic, but this issue is easily navigable and preventable by picking up some NAC online or from a local store. N-acetyl cysteine is a hospital-grade liver guard that's used to treat people with liver diseases and poisoning, so it'll work on you. Take a gram of it in some water or with a capsule (preferred as it tastes like rotten eggs and citric acid) at any point during the day, every day, and you will have no issues.

While on SARMs you shouldn't really be drinking any alcohol at all. I made the mistake the first time of taking my NAC inconsistently, got incredibly drunk one night and woke up feeling like someone had shot me in my stomach. Having liver damage is extremely painful, so don't skip this step. I have found, however, that drinking while on SARMs is fine if you're taking NAC consistently in higher doses in my experience, and it's also good for preventing hangovers, so I take it often before I go out nowadays. Don't take my word for it though.


Gym membership and split.
You need to work out HARD to see the gains. This is fucking obvious. I ran a modified PPL split wherein my Mondays were dedicated to push (great way to start the week), Tuesdays were pull days, Wednesdays were leg days, Thursdays were push days and Fridays were pull days. The increased recovery time with LGD means you can essentially hit the gym every day and feel fine, but your muscles need to regrow after being damaged in order to get stronger, so be sure to take some time off. As crazy as this may sound, you can even take a 4-5 days straight off working out at about the 6-7 week mark if you want to see some serious strength increases. I did this on my second cycle and increased my bench max by 15kg. Give shit time to happen and it will happen. If anyone wants my exact split let me know and I will comment it. Keep in mind it is tailored to how I like to work out and might not be right for you, but generally it's pretty balanced.

A gym session should last you no longer than an hour. Prioritise volume on working sets. The more reps you can get out, the more muscle fibres you're breaking down. I would normally end my sessions with drop sets of one particular exercise, on pull days it was seated bicep curls, on push days it was chest press or pectoral flies. This is IMO the best way to maximise gains on a cycle, as you squeeze every last drop of energy and endurance out before leaving the gym. People who are in the gym for more than an hour a day are wasting their time, taking breaks that are too long, or getting distracted. You should not physically be able to continue after an hour of hard physical exertion. If you're not tired by the time you leave, change your split, it's not working.


Eating
Lots of quality food. I never drank a single protein shake or any sort of "muscle-gaining" product during any of my cycles. All you need to do is eat a lot of food and work out hard. I would typically have two bowls of cereal for breakfast, a large lunch and two servings of dinner, along with extra snacks and a lot of flavoured milk. Not exactly the cleanest diet of all time, but if you're a skinny cunt, it doesn't fucking matter, just eat, and you can burn the fat off once you're not victim weight anymore.

Most of the meat I was eating was beef and chicken, as these are pretty lean, but as long as you're consuming a decent amount of protein, you'll be fine. I didn't track macros. If you think you haven't hit your macro goals for the day, just eat more food. It's not that fucking hard. You will not be making any gains if you're not consuming well in excess of what you usually do.


When to stop.
Stop the cycle immediately if you're feeling sick, gaining cystic body acne, or feeling seriously suppressed. These are not good signs. Minor hair shedding is normal and not permanent, and this is even worse when using RAD. There may be some minor sides you may notice beside this, but you can look up research papers on LGD and come to your own conclusion. Personally, the worst side I got was a bit of extra hair coming out after a shower. A small trade-off for getting fucking yolked in 2 months.

Conclusion.
I am open to answering any questions about this topic. I won't be sharing any pictures because that's not something that I ever do or ever will do. You can take my word for it or not, but I wouldn't write this all up just to talk shit. I'm not trying to sell you anything, do your own research and make sure that this is possible and responsible for you to do.

You don't need any other compounds to make this work. This is literally the only $100 you'll ever spend on a 30ml bottle that will change your fucking life forever. No need for MK677, no need for PCT, no need to inject, nothing. The choice is yours anon.

high iq ty

 

[97baHater]

roids mog ngl

Yo bro do you have any good thread about your first steroid cycle that includes dosage etc… ?

 

[MA_ascender]

Yo bro do you have any good thread about your first steroid cycle that includes dosage etc… ?

first cycle should always be testosterone only 300mg-500mg per week and maybe an oral in the first 4 weeks like anavar or tbol just to see your response to exogenous hormones and gauge how much you aromatize, then the next cycle can be lower test and add other compounds

 

[Johnny_Sins]

I'm just a relatively private person. I also don't particularly feel the need to prove anything to you considering I gain nothing besides self-satisfaction from taking the time to write up this thread.

This was really cringe to read

 

[5.5psl]

Test is best
Pls stop coping with sarms
Nothing comes close to gear
And that 15kg you out on isn't muscle lmao more like 2.5-3 rest is fat , water and glycogen retention

 

[Deleted member 78087]

The title is enough of an explanation.

This is the method that worked for me. If you follow the proper steps, it will likely work for you too.

I don't consider my results wondrous by any stretch of the imagination, but definitely on the higher end. With the following guide, I would realistically expect to gain anywhere between 7-15kg depending on your genetics, eating habits and training schedule. If you are a skinny guy, expect to gain a lot using this method.

The following information should only be used and applied by those 18+. I take absolutely no responsibility for anyone following this guide, and those with underdeveloped brains should most definitely not be using PEDs, so I strongly suggest against children attempting this. I know you will do it anyway, just know I'm telling you not to.

Now that's out of the way.

What you will need.
1. A dropper bottle of LGD-4033 - A typical bottle should last you enough for a full cycle. I will expand on this later.
2. Some form of liver guard - I prefer N-Acetyl Cysteine.
3. A gym membership - Whichever gym you like will work. Needs to have free weights and machines in order to complete optimal training.
4. A shit load of food - Make sure you have enough money to buy quality food consistently, and a lot of it.


LGD-4033. The Most Important Piece of the Puzzle.
LGD-4033 (Ligandrol) is a mass-gaining SARM plain and simple. SARMs essentially "bind" to androgen receptors, replacing testosterone, and help you to gain muscle, fast. The strength of LGD has been measured at 500:1 with pure T, meaning it's 500 times stronger on a gram for gram basis.

It is not a dry compound like RAD or Anavar, but a wet one, so along with the muscle mass gain, you will also put on some water weight and minor amounts of fat if you're eating far too much. LGD can be sourced from a variety of places online, I suggest browsing Reddit to find notable trusted vendors that will deliver you what you paid for. Keep in mind LGD is a research chemical and is not legal in most places. I seriously doubt you'd get into trouble for possessing or using it, but it is quite hard to find a "real" source for this reason. Fakes online will sell you prohormones labelled as SARMs and they can do serious damage, so don't try to cut corners and save money on this step, it's not worth it.

LGD should be taken about 30-45 minutes before a gym session, so it kicks in right before you start. As soon as you hop on, the effects will be immediately noticeable. Massively increased stamina. Increased strength. Harder pumps. The entire gym experience is elevated.

The cycle I followed was the following. Each dose was taken 30-45 minutes before the gym, and I was working out 5 times a week. Be sure to dose 7 times a week regardless of your gym schedule, as the compound also helps massively with muscle growth and recovery. A typical bottle will run 10mg/ml, so these doses are less than 1ml taken orally. Typically, SARMs taste like battery acid, so try to have some gum around to mask the taste. I wouldn't recommend mixing it with anything.

Week 1 - 5mg / day
Week 2 - 5mg / day
Week 3 - 5mg / day
Week 4 - 5mg / day
Week 5 - 6mg / day
Week 6 - 6mg / day
Week 7 - 7mg / day
Week 8 - 7mg / day

The reason for the tapering up is to account for any potential plateaus. Don't listen to anyone who says you need to use upwards of 8mg per day in order for the compound to be effective. You can see noticeable changes after 8 weeks on even 2mg / day. 5mg / day is a responsible dose, and anything higher will lead to negligible returns that will be outweighed by the increase in testosterone suppression and negative side effects.

Visual changes will start to kick around the 3-week mark. You'll see increased definition and general mass. By 8 weeks your physique will be unrecognisable. I've done this exact cycle twice and gained over 10kg both times. I started at 69kg, and after my first cycle I was 85. I then stopped working out for a while, dropped to 75 and gained back to 85 on another cycle. Both cycles lasted 8 weeks. I am planning to replicate this exact cycle again starting this week, starting at 80kg and working my way up to roughly 100kg, on and off the gear. If you continue working out after your cycle as I did the first time, you can easily retain around 80% or more of any gained mass. After my first cycle, I sat at 85kg until I stopped working out.

Although LGD is suppressive, if you're a healthy young man, PCT is not needed. Some people have suggested SERMs as I believe @pneumocystosis did in his thread a while ago about RAD, but these are not really necessary. If you'd like, for peace of mind, pick up some Enclo and run that in the last 4 weeks of your cycle, and for the 4 weeks following your cycle. RAD has far more known side effects than LGD, so despite LGD's harsher strength, it is generally safer on your hair and balls.


Protecting your liver.
LGD and most other oral compounds are liver-toxic, but this issue is easily navigable and preventable by picking up some NAC online or from a local store. N-acetyl cysteine is a hospital-grade liver guard that's used to treat people with liver diseases and poisoning, so it'll work on you. Take a gram of it in some water or with a capsule (preferred as it tastes like rotten eggs and citric acid) at any point during the day, every day, and you will have no issues.

While on SARMs you shouldn't really be drinking any alcohol at all. I made the mistake the first time of taking my NAC inconsistently, got incredibly drunk one night and woke up feeling like someone had shot me in my stomach. Having liver damage is extremely painful, so don't skip this step. I have found, however, that drinking while on SARMs is fine if you're taking NAC consistently in higher doses in my experience, and it's also good for preventing hangovers, so I take it often before I go out nowadays. Don't take my word for it though.


Gym membership and split.
You need to work out HARD to see the gains. This is fucking obvious. I ran a modified PPL split wherein my Mondays were dedicated to push (great way to start the week), Tuesdays were pull days, Wednesdays were leg days, Thursdays were push days and Fridays were pull days. The increased recovery time with LGD means you can essentially hit the gym every day and feel fine, but your muscles need to regrow after being damaged in order to get stronger, so be sure to take some time off. As crazy as this may sound, you can even take a 4-5 days straight off working out at about the 6-7 week mark if you want to see some serious strength increases. I did this on my second cycle and increased my bench max by 15kg. Give shit time to happen and it will happen. If anyone wants my exact split let me know and I will comment it. Keep in mind it is tailored to how I like to work out and might not be right for you, but generally it's pretty balanced.

A gym session should last you no longer than an hour. Prioritise volume on working sets. The more reps you can get out, the more muscle fibres you're breaking down. I would normally end my sessions with drop sets of one particular exercise, on pull days it was seated bicep curls, on push days it was chest press or pectoral flies. This is IMO the best way to maximise gains on a cycle, as you squeeze every last drop of energy and endurance out before leaving the gym. People who are in the gym for more than an hour a day are wasting their time, taking breaks that are too long, or getting distracted. You should not physically be able to continue after an hour of hard physical exertion. If you're not tired by the time you leave, change your split, it's not working.


Eating
Lots of quality food. I never drank a single protein shake or any sort of "muscle-gaining" product during any of my cycles. All you need to do is eat a lot of food and work out hard. I would typically have two bowls of cereal for breakfast, a large lunch and two servings of dinner, along with extra snacks and a lot of flavoured milk. Not exactly the cleanest diet of all time, but if you're a skinny cunt, it doesn't fucking matter, just eat, and you can burn the fat off once you're not victim weight anymore.

Most of the meat I was eating was beef and chicken, as these are pretty lean, but as long as you're consuming a decent amount of protein, you'll be fine. I didn't track macros. If you think you haven't hit your macro goals for the day, just eat more food. It's not that fucking hard. You will not be making any gains if you're not consuming well in excess of what you usually do.


When to stop.
Stop the cycle immediately if you're feeling sick, gaining cystic body acne, or feeling seriously suppressed. These are not good signs. Minor hair shedding is normal and not permanent, and this is even worse when using RAD. There may be some minor sides you may notice beside this, but you can look up research papers on LGD and come to your own conclusion. Personally, the worst side I got was a bit of extra hair coming out after a shower. A small trade-off for getting fucking yolked in 2 months.

Conclusion.
I am open to answering any questions about this topic. I won't be sharing any pictures because that's not something that I ever do or ever will do. You can take my word for it or not, but I wouldn't write this all up just to talk shit. I'm not trying to sell you anything, do your own research and make sure that this is possible and responsible for you to do.

You don't need any other compounds to make this work. This is literally the only $100 you'll ever spend on a 30ml bottle that will change your fucking life forever. No need for MK677, no need for PCT, no need to inject, nothing. The choice is yours anon.

dnr lgd4033 isnr gonna add 15kg of lean tissue in 8 weeks jfl

 

[IWantToMax]

15kg is not possible on LGD, even for your first cycle.

I’ve done 3 cycles and put on 6kg of lean tissue with first cycle, and it even reduced in subsequent cycles. Probably put on around 9kg of mass in 3 cycles

 

[RawMogger]

Any photos, retard?

 

[asdvek]

15kg is not possible on LGD, even for your first cycle.

I’ve done 3 cycles and put on 6kg of lean tissue with first cycle, and it even reduced in subsequent cycles. Probably put on around 9kg of mass in 3 cycles

soo did you max? it says that you want to max. did you max or nah

 

[n9wiff]

Exercise ages you

 

[IWantToMax]

soo did you max? it says that you want to max. did you max or nah

I did max, and I’m still maxing

 

[idkwhattoputhere]

You might be able to gain 1.5kg if you react very well and you are a very new beginner and have good genetics

But 12-15kg?

Also you said you would not respond back

You didn't put on 12-15kg of muscle mass you fucking piece of shit what the fuck is this larp

pneumo put on 12kg in 6 weeks, honestly i think that even if half is fat it’s worth it

 

[Deleted member 88653]

It's over if you start roiding at a young age, because eventually you'll stop and you'll be 30 with no muscle mass and tiny testicles. Or your body dysmorphia will make you keep upping the dose until you die at like 40 like Rich Piana.

 

[Deleted member 88653]

Exercise ages you

HGH and such drugs ages you, not exercise. I'm 26 and people constantly assume I'm 21 years old. Eddie Hall looked 40 when he was 21 because of large amounts of HGH and insulin to get as strong as possible.

 

[n9wiff]

HGH and such drugs ages you, not exercise. I'm 26 and people constantly assume I'm 21 years old. Eddie Hall looked 40 when he was 21 because of large amounts of HGH and insulin to get as strong as possible.

Legit

 

[Deleted member 88653]

Legit

His transformation is insane, I mean look at his body compared to his face, like sure he got huge very fast but his face was ruined in the process.



People on here talk all the time about roiding but they're just not aware of how much it ages you. Rare cases like Ronnie Coleman don't get any major side effects on drugs but most people get very serious side effects or even die from them:

 

[n9wiff]

His transformation is insane, I mean look at his body compared to his face, like sure he got huge very fast but his face was ruined in the process.



People on here talk all the time about roiding but they're just not aware of how much it ages you. Rare cases like Ronnie Coleman don't get any major side effects on drugs but most people get very serious side effects or even die from them:

I was just trolling the first post

Tbf it also depends on what you are talking and dosages.

 

[20/04/2008]

u cant put 15kg of raw mass in 8 weeks even with insulin igf-1 and hgh

His right no one can exept if you have been training long ago then stopped then decided to use copius amount of gear when you come back to the gym