How to get lean without losing muscle?

[notchicolachowski]

Right now I'm at 15-20% bf around there and carry a lot of fat on my face, lower back, stomach and chest. and i do have good muscle mass but im not huge, i wanna cut without losing any muscle and strength to lean bulk after. how?

been working out for 8 months on and off , and diet is mid barely dieting

 

[BlondeVoid]

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[notchicolachowski]

Right now I'm at 15-20% bf around there and carry a lot of fat on my face, lower back, stomach and chest. and i do have good muscle mass but im not huge, i wanna cut without losing any muscle and strength to lean bulk after. how?

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[Micrognathic]

BAM 15
I remember reading a study that showed it reduced bf percentage without causing any muscle loss.
But it was made on rats, so keep that in mind.
I can't seem to find the study, but if I do I'll share it with u.

Found it, here you go. @notchicolachowski

Mitochondrial uncoupler BAM15 reverses diet-induced obesity and insulin resistance in mice - PMC

Obesity is a health problem affecting more than 40% of US adults and 13% of the global population. Anti-obesity treatments including diet, exercise, surgery and pharmacotherapies have so far failed to reverse obesity incidence. Herein, we target ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[BlondeVoid]

Right now I'm at 15-20% bf around there and carry a lot of fat on my face, lower back, stomach and chest. and i do have good muscle mass but im not huge, i wanna cut without losing any muscle and strength to lean bulk after. how?

i think that you should eat alot of protein and lower your carbs

 

[slowwound]

Simply just eat at a slight deficit

 

[notchicolachowski]

BAM 15
I remember reading a study that showed it reduced bf percentage without causing any muscle loss.
But it was made on rats, so keep that in mind.
I can't seem to find the study, but if I do I'll share it with u.

i added pics + send me the studies im considering monjuaro or reta but can't seem to find anyone that can get reta in my country

 

[notchicolachowski]

i think that you should eat alot of protein and lower your carbs

lowering carbs will only get rid of water weight not actual bf

 

[notchicolachowski]

Right now I'm at 15-20% bf around there and carry a lot of fat on my face, lower back, stomach and chest. and i do have good muscle mass but im not huge, i wanna cut without losing any muscle and strength to lean bulk after. how?
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been working out for 8 months on and off , and diet is mid barely dieting

bumppp

 

[iwantuinsideme]

Step 1. Ignore anything that anyone has ever said on this forum.
Step 2. Download books by Lyle McDonald including, but not limited to, the Rapid Fat Loss Handbook. In essence it will tell you that protein is muscle sparing and to lower your calories while lifting heavy and taking some fish oil.
Step 3. ECA and Mounjaro are relatively effective starter cutting drugs. MT2 as well.

Also you're in the early 20s, not below.

 

[BlondeVoid]

Step 1. Ignore anything that anyone has ever said on this forum.
Step 2. Download books by Lyle McDonald including, but not limited to, the Rapid Fat Loss Handbook. In essence it will tell you that protein is muscle sparing and to lower your calories while lifting heavy and taking some fish oil.
Step 3. ECA and Mounjaro are relatively effective starter cutting drugs. MT2 as well.

Also you're in the early 20s, not below.

this guy is not in the early 20s wdym

 

[notchicolachowski]

Step 1. Ignore anything that anyone has ever said on this forum.
Step 2. Download books by Lyle McDonald including, but not limited to, the Rapid Fat Loss Handbook. In essence it will tell you that protein is muscle sparing and to lower your calories while lifting heavy and taking some fish oil.
Step 3. ECA and Mounjaro are relatively effective starter cutting drugs. MT2 as well.

Also you're in the early 20s, not below.

im in the early 20% bf?

 

[Manza]

just get your daily requirement of protein , don’t listen to ppl saying that you shouldn’t eat carbs, it’s necessary. Take it slow, if you want to reduce the amount of muscle loss, do a 200-300 calorie deficit and see how it goes, start to decrease the amount of calories depending on your weight, also check your steps and increase them. This would help, but you’re ending up losing muscle 100% , but the goal is to lose the least

 

[Micrognathic]

BAM 15
I remember reading a study that showed it reduced bf percentage without causing any muscle loss.
But it was made on rats, so keep that in mind.
I can't seem to find the study, but if I do I'll share it with u.
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Found it, here you go. @notchicolachowski

Mitochondrial uncoupler BAM15 reverses diet-induced obesity and insulin resistance in mice - PMC

Obesity is a health problem affecting more than 40% of US adults and 13% of the global population. Anti-obesity treatments including diet, exercise, surgery and pharmacotherapies have so far failed to reverse obesity incidence. Herein, we target ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Also, one last thing, it was done on mice, not on rats, but ig they're the same thing right?

 

[iwantuinsideme]

im in the early 20% bf?

Yes. About 20-22%. Everything thinks they're leaner than they are - people think they're under 10% when they have some visible abs, (and I've also taken into account you're flexing). You are holding a relatively uniform amount of fat all over especially on the back. Obviously I haven't seen your legs. You've got more to lose than you may believe (both in terms of water and fat).

 

[notchicolachowski]

just get your daily requirement of protein , don’t listen to ppl saying that you shouldn’t eat carbs, it’s necessary. Take it slow, if you want to reduce the amount of muscle loss, do a 200-300 calorie deficit and see how it goes, start to decrease the amount of calories depending on your weight, also check your steps and increase them. This would help, but you’re ending up losing muscle 100% , but the goal is to lose the least

ima just eat 1.5 kg/lbs and 10k steps a day minimum + 2,000 calories a day mostly protein and carbs ima keep fats mid

 

[Dalton22]

Step 1: stop being a gymcel


Foids don't prefer this bloated chubby look you have going, you would prob look bigger if you got lean despite actually losing size

 

[notchicolachowski]

Also, one last thing, it was done on mice, not on rats, but ig they're the same thing right?

yeah basically aren't mice baby rats dawg

 

[Manza]

ima just eat 1.5 kg/lbs and 10k steps a day minimum + 2,000 calories a day mostly protein and carbs ima keep fats mid

yeah , u need to keep eating fats to regulate your hormones

 

[notchicolachowski]

Step 1: stop being a gymcel


Foids don't prefer this bloated chubby look you have going, you would prob look bigger if you got lean despite actually losing size

foids don't really care about my body since my face looks good even while being this fat but still wanna get lean to look even better since i look young bc i got some fat on my face

 

[Micrognathic]

yeah basically aren't mice baby rats dawg

No, I'm pretty sure they're different species, just smaller than rats ig, and they tend to have huge ass ears as well.
Also, they have a longer tail compared to rats.

 

[notchicolachowski]

yeah , u need to keep eating fats to regulate your hormones

ill still consume fats but not as much ill try to keep it as low as possible without it disrupting my hormones

 

[Dalton22]

ill still consume fats but not as much ill try to keep it as low as possible without it disrupting my hormones

You should cut entirely. carbs too. stop coping

 

[notchicolachowski]

No, I'm pretty sure they're different species, just smaller than rats ig, and they tend to have huge ass ears as well.
Also, they have a longer tail compared to rats.

yeah they are just searched it on google but still the same i guess

 

[Manza]

ill still consume fats but not as much ill try to keep it as low as possible without it disrupting my hormones

i’ll recommend u to start taking supplements, fish oils gonna help u with that

 

[notchicolachowski]

You should cut entirely. carbs too. stop coping

how am i coping bruh , literally the title is asking how to get lean

 

[notchicolachowski]

i’ll recommend u to start taking supplements, fish oils gonna help u with that

already been taking supplements but don't really need to since my hormones and bloodwork is all basically optimal

 

[Manza]

You should cut entirely. carbs too. stop coping

bruh stop misinforming

 

[Dalton22]

bruh stop misinforming

He's carrying alot of bodyfat especially in the hips, literally has love handles bro. estrogenic build

You are the one misinforming here and contributing to him looksminning. Whatever though best of luck

 

[notchicolachowski]

Yes. About 20-22%. Everything thinks they're leaner than they are - people think they're under 10% when they have some visible abs, (and I've also taken into account you're flexing). You are holding a relatively uniform amount of fat all over especially on the back. Obviously I haven't seen your legs. You've got more to lose than you may believe (both in terms of water and fat).

u might be right and if u are thats good for me it means ill look way better once i cut down to 10-12% bf , my legs hold some fat as well

 

[Manza]

already been taking supplements but don't really need to since my hormones and bloodwork is all basically optimal

it’s a plus, taking thermogenics or fat burners is helpful.

 

[notchicolachowski]

He's carrying alot of bodyfat especially in the hips, literally has love handles bro. estrogenic build

You are the one misinforming here and contributing to him looksminning. Whatever though best of luck

well i have wide shoulders so girls dont really give a shit that much + i have a small waist

 

[Dalton22]

well i have wide shoulders so girls dont really give a shit that much + i have a small waist

Again, you're coping. Trying to offer some advice but you don't agree so best of luck

 

[Manza]

He's carrying alot of bodyfat especially in the hips, literally has love handles bro. estrogenic build

You are the one misinforming here and contributing to him looksminning. Whatever though best of luck

ill just act as if i haven’t read anything

 

[notchicolachowski]

BAM 15
I remember reading a study that showed it reduced bf percentage without causing any muscle loss.
But it was made on rats, so keep that in mind.
I can't seem to find the study, but if I do I'll share it with u.
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View attachment 4452472
View attachment 4452476
Found it, here you go. @notchicolachowski

Mitochondrial uncoupler BAM15 reverses diet-induced obesity and insulin resistance in mice - PMC

Obesity is a health problem affecting more than 40% of US adults and 13% of the global population. Anti-obesity treatments including diet, exercise, surgery and pharmacotherapies have so far failed to reverse obesity incidence. Herein, we target ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

lowkey a crazy peptide ngl , no side effects + a lot of benefits but id bet it'd be hard to get my hands on , hgh is super easy to get for me but a bit expensive since im buying pharma grade gh to be safe

 

[Micrognathic]

lowkey a crazy peptide ngl , no side effects + a lot of benefits but id bet it'd be hard to get my hands on , hgh is super easy to get for me but a bit expensive since im buying pharma grade gh to be safe

Best of luck
And keep me updated pls
Mirin ur physique