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tl;dr before and after:
Medical Disclaimer:
all of the material provided in this thread, such as the text, treatment, dosages, photographs, and outcomes and any other material provided in this thread are for informational purposes only and are not a substitute for professional medical advice or treatment.
always week the advice of your physician or another qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding your health, never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have read in this thread.
I do not recommend you do this, but here I will explain what I did.
probably good to begin with this in case you're wondering, what even are pdo threads? well they're basically solid strings made of polydioxanone that act as any other filler.
what differentiates them from other fillers though, is the precision and control you have over where they go, and they do not migrate (unless you fuck up while moving the needle out) they also do not cause occlusions, these factors combined makes them ideal for diy.
they slowly break down in the body and produce collagen which can last up to two years, but usually about a year or so.
there's several types of threads, you'll probably find a lot of negative comments on the subject if you were to google it, these are mostly about the barbed threads that you won't be using, and regular ones done by doctors who are absolutely ripping off their patients with these at the moment and asking 400$ for 5$ worth of threads (that's for monos, the barbed type costs even more up to 2k+)
barbed threads are for pulling on sagging skin, there's also mono threads which provide structural support and a bit of volume and are easy to control, and screw threads which create even more volume than mono threads but are a tad harder to control, there's also pcl types, these last longer than pdo, they've got these in mono, screw, etc, too.
the threads I used are PDO mono's, I went with these because their effects aren't overbearing, you won't accidentally add too much volume in an area because of this.
my goal was to create a 'net' as you will that provides support to the skin in the nasolabial fold and prevents it from sagging and tighten the skin.
here's a simple diagram of what I went for.
you'll probably think to yourself, does this mean you have to be super cautious as to which ones are on top and which at the bottom? the answer to that is no, it actually doesn't really matter.
as long as the wires are somewhat intertwined they'll provide structural support to each other regardless of which is above or below.
here's a picture of the needles in my face in case you don't believe I actually did this, I used 18 threads in total, 9 in both sides, I also added 8 screw types in the lower portion later but these are still in trial (it's only been like a week or so since I placed these)
you won't be able to get them in all at once, I did 6 first, then added more to the 'top layer', the purple line is where the needle enters, you don't need to get it absolutely perfect and you do not need to follow this specific pattern, although it did work for me so it's probably good.
here's the before:
here's the after
keep in mind, this is the absolute worst light imaginable that'll give anyone visible nasolabial folds, they're invisible from any other angle, and weren't very prominent even in the first picture in reality.
this is with frontal light, the others were taken with light coming from the side that'll make even the smallest depression visible.
some other angles in case you're not convinced.
the skin 'glow' is from centella by the way, it's unrelated but I have some issues with skin flaking from tretinoin and it helps with that.
some videos on it, so you know how the process goes.
the usage of these threads isn't limited to the mid-face by the way, you can tighten pretty much any skin with it, here's the submental area.
you can even flip the lips with them and correct the corners of your mouth.
either way, you've probably got lots of questions like:
why use these instead of regular filler? because unlike regular fillers there's pretty much no risk of getting an occlusion from these, which makes them safer for DIY, an occlusion means you block a vein which can potentially make you go blind, the main risk is bruising which while looking quite bad isn't dangerous.
besides that, they're also easier to use, and cheap as fuck, you can import them for a euro each from korea, the entire procedure I did cost me 20 euros.
and where do you get them? they're literally over the counter, you can just google them, they're offered on default shopping websites like amazon.
how long do they last? the thread takes between 6 and 12 months to dissolve and the collagen that forms as a result can last up to two years, there's PCL type threads that can last longer than that, I wouldn't use those in case you mess up.
will I see a difference right away? unlike fillers you don't, it takes a while for them to fully intregrate into the skin, don't expect the full results to show until 4+ weeks later, don't use too many threads you can always add more later, although they provide a little bit of lift right away.
what size needle did you use? the option I went with was 30g, they've got 25mm threads and the needle was 30mm.
it took me a while to make this thread, not as in the time that went into writing this, but I had to wait several weeks for the results and watch for side effects.
Medical Disclaimer:
all of the material provided in this thread, such as the text, treatment, dosages, photographs, and outcomes and any other material provided in this thread are for informational purposes only and are not a substitute for professional medical advice or treatment.
always week the advice of your physician or another qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding your health, never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have read in this thread.
I do not recommend you do this, but here I will explain what I did.
probably good to begin with this in case you're wondering, what even are pdo threads? well they're basically solid strings made of polydioxanone that act as any other filler.
what differentiates them from other fillers though, is the precision and control you have over where they go, and they do not migrate (unless you fuck up while moving the needle out) they also do not cause occlusions, these factors combined makes them ideal for diy.
they slowly break down in the body and produce collagen which can last up to two years, but usually about a year or so.
there's several types of threads, you'll probably find a lot of negative comments on the subject if you were to google it, these are mostly about the barbed threads that you won't be using, and regular ones done by doctors who are absolutely ripping off their patients with these at the moment and asking 400$ for 5$ worth of threads (that's for monos, the barbed type costs even more up to 2k+)
barbed threads are for pulling on sagging skin, there's also mono threads which provide structural support and a bit of volume and are easy to control, and screw threads which create even more volume than mono threads but are a tad harder to control, there's also pcl types, these last longer than pdo, they've got these in mono, screw, etc, too.
the threads I used are PDO mono's, I went with these because their effects aren't overbearing, you won't accidentally add too much volume in an area because of this.
my goal was to create a 'net' as you will that provides support to the skin in the nasolabial fold and prevents it from sagging and tighten the skin.
here's a simple diagram of what I went for.
you'll probably think to yourself, does this mean you have to be super cautious as to which ones are on top and which at the bottom? the answer to that is no, it actually doesn't really matter.
as long as the wires are somewhat intertwined they'll provide structural support to each other regardless of which is above or below.
here's a picture of the needles in my face in case you don't believe I actually did this, I used 18 threads in total, 9 in both sides, I also added 8 screw types in the lower portion later but these are still in trial (it's only been like a week or so since I placed these)
you won't be able to get them in all at once, I did 6 first, then added more to the 'top layer', the purple line is where the needle enters, you don't need to get it absolutely perfect and you do not need to follow this specific pattern, although it did work for me so it's probably good.
here's the before:
here's the after
keep in mind, this is the absolute worst light imaginable that'll give anyone visible nasolabial folds, they're invisible from any other angle, and weren't very prominent even in the first picture in reality.
this is with frontal light, the others were taken with light coming from the side that'll make even the smallest depression visible.
some other angles in case you're not convinced.
the skin 'glow' is from centella by the way, it's unrelated but I have some issues with skin flaking from tretinoin and it helps with that.
some videos on it, so you know how the process goes.
the usage of these threads isn't limited to the mid-face by the way, you can tighten pretty much any skin with it, here's the submental area.
you can even flip the lips with them and correct the corners of your mouth.
either way, you've probably got lots of questions like:
why use these instead of regular filler? because unlike regular fillers there's pretty much no risk of getting an occlusion from these, which makes them safer for DIY, an occlusion means you block a vein which can potentially make you go blind, the main risk is bruising which while looking quite bad isn't dangerous.
besides that, they're also easier to use, and cheap as fuck, you can import them for a euro each from korea, the entire procedure I did cost me 20 euros.
and where do you get them? they're literally over the counter, you can just google them, they're offered on default shopping websites like amazon.
how long do they last? the thread takes between 6 and 12 months to dissolve and the collagen that forms as a result can last up to two years, there's PCL type threads that can last longer than that, I wouldn't use those in case you mess up.
will I see a difference right away? unlike fillers you don't, it takes a while for them to fully intregrate into the skin, don't expect the full results to show until 4+ weeks later, don't use too many threads you can always add more later, although they provide a little bit of lift right away.
what size needle did you use? the option I went with was 30g, they've got 25mm threads and the needle was 30mm.
it took me a while to make this thread, not as in the time that went into writing this, but I had to wait several weeks for the results and watch for side effects.
