How to keep a better looking girl around for LTR?

[audimax]

There seems to be two different opinions on this topic.
1. You have to be somwhat of a simp. Show emotions, show her you care about her, jestermaxx, take her out, travel together and stuff like that.
2. Be 'alpha', never show her you love her, make her see you have other options even though she mogs you, use her, dont show emotions.

What would work better? Normally you would say option 2, but I feel like thats reserved for chads and extremely high T guys only and in most couples, they guy simps for the girl and it seems to be working, so I would go with option 1.

 

[Deleted member 7753]

I was 1 and I got backstabbed throughout the entire relationship without even realising. Don't be 1.

 

[Deleted member 4797]

Criticise her frequently, and never compliment.

 

[Deleted member 4797]

I was 1 and I got backstabbed throughout the entire relationship without even realising. Don't be 1.

How tall are you?

 

[MansNotHot]

Never care about something deeply because if you lose it it's gonna hurt.

 

[Deleted member 7753]

How tall are you?

6'3"

 

[Germania]

Number 1 for sure

Normally you would say option 2, but I feel like thats reserved for chads and extremely high T guys

Nahhh, option 2 is reserved for tryhard wannabe internet "alpha males" and manosphere losers, who have no clue how things work in real life.

 

[audimax]

Criticise her frequently, and never compliment.

I made good experiences with complimenting (when I knew she likes me)

 

[Deleted member 4797]

I made good experiences with complimenting (when I knew she likes me)

compliments are good only to show intent, once you got her I dont see any upsides (except a short-term smile, at the expense of long-term respect from being seen as higher value)

 

[Deleted member 9499]

There seems to be two different opinions on this topic.
1. You have to be somwhat of a simp. Show emotions, show her you care about her, jestermaxx, take her out, travel together and stuff like that.
2. Be 'alpha', never show her you love her, make her see you have other options even though she mogs you, use her, dont show emotions.

What would work better? Normally you would say option 2, but I feel like thats reserved for chads and extremely high T guys only and in most couples, they guy simps for the girl and it seems to be working, so I would go with option 1.

Combine both.
If you want a good relationship have good communication skills with your girl, good sex and don't be a bitch.
Focus on yourself don't think too much about the future of the relationship , try to respect your self above else.

 

[St. Wristcel]

Anything besides 1. My 4PSL 6’0” friend was nice and cried in front of (DOnT FoRgET tO sHoW eMoTiOn SwEATy ) his baddie fat ass girl friend, and she dumped him for being too nice and a cuck .

 

[Deleted member 7192]

1 is for cucks. every relationship goes to shit once you show too much love. theres a best of the best thread about it

 

[Deleted member 6986]

jfl if you wanna date as a blackpilled person when you know that love isn't eternal, even if ur chad just pump and dump boyos

 

[Stare]

Lock her in your basement

 

[DrTony]

There seems to be two different opinions on this topic.
1. You have to be somwhat of a simp. Show emotions, show her you care about her, jestermaxx, take her out, travel together and stuff like that.
2. Be 'alpha', never show her you love her, make her see you have other options even though she mogs you, use her, dont show emotions.

What would work better? Normally you would say option 2, but I feel like thats reserved for chads and extremely high T guys only and in most couples, they guy simps for the girl and it seems to be working, so I would go with option 1.

I can tell by your post you are a virgin or sexually inexperienced

 

[audimax]

I can tell by your post you are a virgin or sexually inexperienced

I am not actually, I just cant find a middle ground often times and catch feels too soon and fuck up somehow. I have collected good experience with girls but I somehow fuck up everytime I start to see her more often. Thats why I never had a LTR

 

[Deleted member 9344]

There seems to be two different opinions on this topic.
1. You have to be somwhat of a simp. Show emotions, show her you care about her, jestermaxx, take her out, travel together and stuff like that.
2. Be 'alpha', never show her you love her, make her see you have other options even though she mogs you, use her, dont show emotions.

What would work better? Normally you would say option 2, but I feel like thats reserved for chads and extremely high T guys only and in most couples, they guy simps for the girl and it seems to be working, so I would go with option 1.

Be a bit of both imo, just don't excessively simp.

 

[Deleted member 4797]

I am not actually, I just cant find a middle ground often times and catch feels too soon and fuck up somehow. I have collected good experience with girls but I somehow fuck up everytime I start to see her more often. Thats why I never had a LTR

Whats gone wrong when you tried option 2? How did you express option 2 when you used it?

 

[audimax]

Whats gone wrong when you tried option 2? How did you express option 2 when you used it?

Didnt really use any of these methods. But I know with one girl, who wanted a LTR (I was 19 at that time), I told her we shouldnt hesitate things and just wanted to fuck her and it ended with me getting nothing. Should have gone for that LTR just for experience.
Another girl when I was 18 cried the whole weekend, just because I didnt answer her messages. Wrote it off as nothing serious, was just casual with her, she ended up getting a simp boyfriend.

 

[audimax]

And now I have a shit ton of drunk girls and hookers that I fucked when I felt high T and around normal girls I still catch feelings all the time and have to use viagra

 

[Deleted member 4797]

Didnt really use any of these methods. But I know with one girl, who wanted a LTR (I was 19 at that time), I told her we shouldnt hesitate things and just wanted to fuck her and it ended with me getting nothing. Should have gone for that LTR just for experience.

How did she turn you down, where you in her house or something when you tried to fuck her?

 

[DrTony]

I am not actually, I just cant find a middle ground often times and catch feels too soon and fuck up somehow. I have collected good experience with girls but I somehow fuck up everytime I start to see her more often. Thats why I never had a LTR

Bro you are young and sexually inexperienced with women. I am pretty sure your total laycount is lower than 20 (Hookers don’t count neither drunk girls) and you also admitted you have never had LTR in your life. You have to remedy your situation immediately. The way your question is formulated reeks of inexperience

 

[audimax]

How did she turn you down, where you in her house or something when you tried to fuck her?

No we were in the train making out and just talked a little bit how I want to cuddle with her and stuff and she said she wants a LTR first and I said Im not really a LTR guy (JFL) and we should just see where things will go. I cant really remember if we had a date following that, but I know we just stopped texting each other.

 

[audimax]

Bro you are young and sexually inexperienced with women. I am pretty sure your total laycount is lower than 20 and you also admitted you have never had LTR in your life. You have to remedy your situation immediately. The way your question is formulated reeks of inexperience

Im not rly young anymore, Im in my middle 20s. You are right with my lay count but it is not that far away from 20 (drunk girls included) Ok so I am unexperienced, what do you suggest? Are you a slayer and have something to say or do you just want to criticize me?

 

[Deleted member 4797]

No we were in the train making out and just talked a little bit how I want to cuddle with her and stuff and she said she wants a LTR first and I said Im not really a LTR guy (JFL) and we should just see where things will go. I cant really remember if we had a date following that, but I know we just stopped texting each other.

Damn, she was probably with it if she was making out with you. You shoulda said something like 'We can fuck first then build from there, thats how I do this.' You made her scared of being pump'n'dumped, but she was attracted to you enough to fuck.

 

[gaymidget]

1. go to countries which are more traditional. Yeah, women are the same everywhere but in countries like russia, Poland or ukraine, most girls are after LTRs, its the norm to be in a relationship, marry and start a family. Of course there are a lot of hoes but better than USA or Europe where most girls dont want a LTR in the first place.

2. Yeah, read some red pill stuff. Its helpful as long as your looks are on point. It guides u in relationship and gives you dos and donts. In general, be 80% alpha, 20% beta.

 

[RichardwillImprove]

Honestly neither work if Im being real with u man. U have to be somewhere in the middle depending on ur current situation.

 

[audimax]

Damn, she was probably with it if she was making out with you. You shoulda said something like 'We can fuck first then build from there, thats how I do this.' You made her scared of being pump'n'dumped, but she was attracted to you enough to fuck.

Yes i made a lot of mistakes when i was younger. But I try to move forward from that

 

[audimax]

I stopped watching porn and dont even want sex right now. Im too mentally attached to a girl. I should probably hit up a few girls that I know are interested in me. But I dont have desire for sex, its as if porn fueled my libido with real girls too

 

[RichardwillImprove]

I stopped watching porn and dont even want sex right now. Im too mentally attached to a girl. I should probably hit up a few girls that I know are interested in me. But I dont have desire for sex, its as if porn fueled my libido with real girls too

I have the same fucking problem what the hell.

 

[NVRH]

There seems to be two different opinions on this topic.
1. You have to be somwhat of a simp. Show emotions, show her you care about her, jestermaxx, take her out, travel together and stuff like that.
2. Be 'alpha', never show her you love her, make her see you have other options even though she mogs you, use her, dont show emotions.

What would work better? Normally you would say option 2, but I feel like thats reserved for chads and extremely high T guys only and in most couples, they guy simps for the girl and it seems to be working, so I would go with option 1.

I've been with my gf for 4 y. Ofc she mogs me. PSL and SMV wise. What I did was NOT TRYING to keep her.

From the beginning, I assumed she was a whore banging several Chads while we were in the start of our relationship.
I told her I didn't care, that in fact it'd save me some precious time if she had the decency to tell me about it asap.

Turns out she wasn't a whore. She broke up with a lot of guys (never cheated on them) cuz they ended jealous and boring.
She also never slept with a guy while not in a relationship with him. (I don't think girls doing that are whores, but she does)
Me not being jealous was completely new for her. We even had a lot of arguments about it, shit like "you don't like me if you're not jealous"
I think letting the girl know your life doesn't entirely revolve around her is the way to go.

In the end, the best attitude is a mix of 1) and 2)

1. Taking her out, traveling together builds memories and allows you to bond with a girl. That's not simping, that's just making the best out of a relationship. Tbh I'm rly bad at it, but the usual human likes to spend quality time with the people he loves, that's pretty normal.
+ You're also making yourself a favor by doing shit you'd never do alone.

2. I don't think you have to act like she's some shitty ONS for years to be "Alpha". You just have to act like a normal human being and never forget that she's not your mom or your brother. One day, you may have to part ways... and that's no big deal. Letting a girl living rent free in your head cuz you're afraid to lose her is a waste of time and energy. Just seize the day and that's it.

Actually doing too much shit to keep her can confuse a girl about how she feels about you.
And that's how you end up with girls breaking up 10 y later and saying they "didn't rly love him but he was so nice" afterwards.

 

[audimax]

I've been with my gf for 4 y. Ofc she mogs me. PSL and SMV wise. What I did was NOT TRYING to keep her.

From the beginning, I assumed she was a whore banging several Chads while we were in the start of our relationship.
I told her I didn't care, that in fact it'd save me some precious time if she had the decency to tell me about it asap.

Turns out she wasn't a whore. She broke up with a lot of guys (never cheated on them) cuz they ended jealous and boring.
She also never slept with a guy while not in a relationship with him. (I don't think girls doing that are whores, but she does)
Me not being jealous was completely new for her. We even had a lot of arguments about it, shit like "you don't like me if you're not jealous"
I think letting the girl know your life doesn't entirely revolve around her is the way to go.

In the end, the best attitude is a mix of 1) and 2)

1. Taking her out, traveling together builds memories and allows you to bond with a girl. That's not simping, that's just making the best out of a relationship. Tbh I'm rly bad at it, but the usual human likes to spend quality time with the people he loves, that's pretty normal.
+ You're also making yourself a favor by doing shit you'd never do alone.

2. I don't think you have to act like she's some shitty ONS for years to be "Alpha". You just have to act like a normal human being and never forget that she's not your mom or your brother. One day, you may have to part ways... and that's no big deal. Letting a girl living rent free in your head cuz you're afraid to lose her is a waste of time and energy. Just seize the day and that's it.

Actually doing too much shit to keep her can confuse a girl about how she feels about you.
And that's how you end up with girls breaking up 10 y later and saying they "didn't rly love him but he was so nice" afterwards.

Thats good advice. I need to get more balance between these two. I either dont give a fuck or I start to get too attached. I get jealous too, but only if I think she doesnt show enough interest. I need validation, otherwise I think Im not attractive enough and she starts texting some chad.
It may sound bluepilled and cringe but I how the fuck are you supposed to 'love' a person and at the same time not show it because she will think you have less value and will think less of you.

 

[NVRH]

Thats good advice. I need to get more balance between these two. I either dont give a fuck or I start to get too attached. I get jealous too, but only if I think she doesnt show enough interest. I need validation, otherwise I think Im not attractive enough and she starts texting some chad.
It may sound bluepilled and cringe but I how the fuck are you supposed to 'love' a person and at the same time not show it because she will think you have less value and will think less of you.

Jfl it's easy, love yourself more. You prob won't marry her, just enjoy the time you spend with her and that's it.

 

[audimax]

Jfl it's easy, love yourself more. You prob won't marry her, just enjoy the time you spend with her and that's it.

I dont know how to, Im too skinny fat and too ugly in my eyes to really accept me. Thats why I looksmax

 

[Alibaba69]

if you want her to love you back you have to do 2. only do 1 after she gives birth to your kids and has earned your respect

 

[audimax]

if you want her to love you back you have to do 1. only do 2 after she gives birth to your kids and has earned your respect

Did you get those two numbers mixed up?

 

[Alibaba69]

Did you get those two numbers mixed up?

probs i am dyslexia cel

 

[Coping_nope]

You don't orbit her at all neither do you ignore her. Now do what I say:
You confess your affection towards the bitch most prolly she will reject you but if you are normie tier atleast just keep in contact but jfl if you msg her frst. Now slowly show her that now she is just a friend to you and act very chill around her. Talk about other bitches and stuff. Meanwhile do compliment her but like rarely. Now she tilts sexually towards u then okay but if she friendzones u then fuck her friends.

 

[audimax]

You don't orbit her at all neither do you ignore her. Now do what I say:
You confess your affection towards the bitch most prolly she will reject you but if you are normie tier atleast just keep in contact but jfl if you msg her frst. Now slowly show her that now she is just a friend to you and act very chill around her. Talk about other bitches and stuff. Meanwhile do compliment her but like rarely. Now she tilts sexually towards u then okay but if she friendzones u then fuck her friends.

Bro I dont have contact with her in my everyday life. She lives like 100km away and I dont know any of her female friends. I cant meet her to just chill and talk about other bitches

 

[TITUS]

Depends, if you both like doing the same things, her personality, your personality, etc.
In my case i never let them know everything about me and never show any weakness. But i don't treat them badly or disrespect them, cause that seems low class nigger behaviour to me, i want a functional team, not arguing all day. But yeah, if she's over-complaining, whinning too much i let her know she has to cut it, sometimes they cry and it's all for the better.