How to keep test gains

[Crappypatty]

I am planning on running a test ONLY cycle in december, but i dont want to lose the gains during pct, what can i take / do to ensure I keep most of my gains, i know im not going to keep all but how can i keep most.

 

[Crappypatty]

bump

 

[DOCTOS]

Why test only? U broke?

 

[Crappypatty]

Why test only? U broke?

first cycle, i dont wanna do anything else

 

[tenmacel]

I am planning on running a test ONLY cycle in december, but i dont want to lose the gains during pct, what can i take / do to ensure I keep most of my gains, i know im not going to keep all but how can i keep most.

Just keep ur eating, recovery, training dialed regardless you are building permanent muscle

 

[Crappypatty]

Just keep ur eating, recovery, training dialed regardless you are building permanent muscle

just run a typical pct and id be fine? i already track macros and have sleep dialed

 

[tenmacel]

just run a typical pct and id be fine? i already track macros and have sleep dialed

Yes you'll be fine also down the line don't take too much bullshit test, EQ, primo are your friends

 

[poreskin]

I am planning on running a test ONLY cycle in december, but i dont want to lose the gains during pct, what can i take / do to ensure I keep most of my gains, i know im not going to keep all but how can i keep most.

Lower the dose gradually don’t just come off. Have a good pct. And do test for a while to keep enough gains to where even if u lose some it DOESNT matter

If your saying your only gonna do it for December, not just start it in December, then u cooked because u ain’t making gains in 4 weeks, at least 16 weeks total for to to be effective, Im doing it for 6-9 months

 

[tenmacel]

Lower the dose gradually don’t just come off. Have a good pct. And do test for a while to keep enough gains to where even if u lose some it DOESNT matter

If your saying your only gonna do it for December, not just start it in December, then u cooked because u ain’t making gains in 4 weeks

This, test takes ~4wks to saturate for you to start seeing actual gains off it

 

[poreskin]

Why test only? U broke?

Im on test what should I add if my goal is to build muscle and escape skinnyfat as I have fat

Im on test rn

 

[Crappypatty]

Lower the dose gradually don’t just come off. Have a good pct. And do test for a while to keep enough gains to where even if u lose some it DOESNT matter

If your saying your only gonna do it for December, not just start it in December, then u cooked because u ain’t making gains in 4 weeks

i was saying im planning on STARTING in december

 

[poreskin]

i was saying im planning on STARTING in december

Ok, how long.

 

[poreskin]

Yes you'll be fine also down the line don't take too much bullshit test, EQ, primo are your friends

I have extra money what else should I add to make extra gains and escape skinnyfat

Im prone to the hair loss side effect

 

[Crappypatty]

Ok, how long.

i was thinking 15 or 20 week 500mg test e / week

 

[Crappypatty]

bump

 

[Crappypatty]

bump

 

[RichardRich]

I am planning on running a test ONLY cycle in december, but i dont want to lose the gains during pct, what can i take / do to ensure I keep most of my gains, i know im not going to keep all but how can i keep most.

No point in Roiding if your pcting

 

[Crappypatty]

No point in Roiding if your pcting

can you help me/ tell me what to do instead to keep gains

 

[RichardRich]

can you help me/ tell me what to do instead to keep gains

To keep most of your gains you need to Permablast. Like blasting heavy and your cruise should be a blast dose. You need to blast heavy like 20 weeks and cruise 8 weeks. You’d need to do this in a span of 2-3 years rarely 4 if u can. Once you cruise for life at a blast dose you’d lose between 20-65ibs of gains which is why you should ideally reach to 230 lean and 250 maxx atbloated. Then you’ll remain at somewhere between 165-230 in weight depending what you’ll do after ascending. This would be an example of someone who’s somewhere between 5’11”-6’3” and starting point of 120-150ibs.

[EVERYTHING I JUST WROTE WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF SOMEONE WHO HAS SHIT HYPER RESPONSE AND IS A HYPERTOLERATOR, SHIT ANDROGEN RECEPTORS, SENSITIVITY AND DENSITY WHILE HAVING A CAG REPEAT WHERE INSTEAD OF THEIR NATURAL TEST BEING USED TO BECOME CHAD WITH FACIAL HAIR, CHEST HAIR, STRONG JAW, BONES, BIDELTOID, FULL SET HEALTHY HAIR AND HAIRLINE, AND DEEP OGRE VOICE, INSTEAD THEYRE TEST IS CONVERTED TO HAIRLOSS, ACNE, ASS HAIR, NO CHEST HAIR, PUBESCENT SHIT FACIAL HAIR GROWTH AND RASPY NERD VOICE INSTEAD OF A MAN VOICE, BUT EITHER END OF THE CAG LINE CAN HAVE A BIG DIH, YOU COULD HAVE 1000ng/dl natural test and still be subhuman cause of shit cag repeats and shit genetics utilizing test for nothing contributing for your gene pool to pass on the bloodline and be a breed mogger you’d just be a discord mod cause your test decided to use it on your ahh hair instead of your chest hair and vocals]

 

[RichardRich]

To keep most of your gains you need to Permablast. Like blasting heavy and your cruise should be a blast dose. You need to blast heavy like 20 weeks and cruise 8 weeks. You’d need to do this in a span of 2-3 years rarely 4 if u can. Once you cruise for life at a blast dose you’d lose between 20-65ibs of gains which is why you should ideally reach to 230 lean and 250 maxx atbloated. Then you’ll remain at somewhere between 165-230 in weight depending what you’ll do after ascending. This would be an example of someone who’s somewhere between 5’11”-6’3” and starting point of 120-150ibs.

[EVERYTHING I JUST WROTE WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF SOMEONE WHO HAS SHIT HYPER RESPONSE AND IS A HYPERTOLERATOR, SHIT ANDROGEN RECEPTORS, SENSITIVITY AND DENSITY WHILE HAVING A CAG REPEAT WHERE INSTEAD OF THEIR NATURAL TEST BEING USED TO BECOME CHAD WITH FACIAL HAIR, CHEST HAIR, STRONG JAW, BONES, BIDELTOID, FULL SET HEALTHY HAIR AND HAIRLINE, AND DEEP OGRE VOICE, INSTEAD THEYRE TEST IS CONVERTED TO HAIRLOSS, ACNE, ASS HAIR, NO CHEST HAIR, PUBESCENT SHIT FACIAL HAIR GROWTH AND RASPY NERD VOICE INSTEAD OF A MAN VOICE, BUT EITHER END OF THE CAG LINE CAN HAVE A BIG DIH, YOU COULD HAVE 1000ng/dl natural test and still be subhuman cause of shit cag repeats and shit genetics utilizing test for nothing contributing for your gene pool to pass on the bloodline and be a breed mogger you’d just be a discord mod cause your test decided to use it on your ahh hair instead of your chest hair and vocals]

Easy way but not 100% true for all to know if you have shit gene response to gear is if your maxx natural weight without roids is 155-160 lean when starting point was 120, it’s over, and you need 2-3x more than the average gear use to reach average weight of 165-180 but the gains aren’t permanent so you’d need to keep blasting till like 230-250 or else it was all for nothing or maybe you can maintain well at staying 165-180 but the muscle loss from cruising only forever Is possible but testosterone enanthate does preserve muscle and prevent muscle loss with other add ons like
-500mg L carnitine 2x weekly or to however you’d like the frequency to be
-Enclomiphene 25mg daily

• Preworkout Anavar 6 weeks only usedduring emergency needance of strength

-25mg mk677 nightly

-anamorelin 100mg daily

-ghrp-6 300mcg 0.3mg daily 3 months on 2 off morning

(Be aware of you don’t have good insulin sensitivity genes like me and loox you’d need to be more cautious and use ancillary’s or drop the insulin resistance causing stuff)


But if your starting point was 140-165 than you might maybe have good roid response and use less gear cause your natural already reach to like 170-205ibs

But if your starting point was like 180ibs than your 90% have good genes to gear use and your probably Slavic, German, Eastern European, west African or Samoan

[EVERYTHING WEIGHT RELATED IS IN RELATION TO PURE LEAN POUNDS I DONT HAVE KNOWLEDGE ON RELATION TO EVERYTHING I WROTE FOR HIGHBODYFAT% INDIVIDUALS]

 

[RichardRich]

Yes you'll be fine also down the line don't take too much bullshit test, EQ, primo are your friends

Won’t do shi if your starting point was skinnycel like loox. But if your naturally high body weight and bodyfat% than of course the weak roids will still benefit u guys

 

[RichardRich]

Just keep ur eating, recovery, training dialed regardless you are building permanent muscle

Only roids that actually builds permanent muscles for long periods of time until your like in your late 30 and beyond, is like 20 week blasts of using Deca, Tren, HgH, compared to test, but trens lean hard dry bulking is high quality, explodes your bideltoid and used in long term blasts, yes eq does the same but barely noticeable difference in visible gains if you have shit genes, DHT derivates like primo and masteron are nothing compared to the quality gains and more powerful explosive effect on gains even a 120ib anorexic holocaust type build like me at 18 ascended to 182ibs from 19nors like Tren and Deca. Mast and primo is for u fat obese high body% Americans who obsess over abs and striations when i naturally have abs and striations by simply just cruising




19NORS > DHT DERIVED INJECTABLES

ONLY DHT DERIVES I RESPECT ARE ANADROL, SUPERDROL, WINNY AND ANAVAR

 

[tenmacel]

Only roids that actually builds permanent muscles for long periods of time until your like in your late 30 and beyond, is like 20 week blasts of using Deca, Tren, HgH, compared to test, but trens lean hard dry bulking is high quality, explodes your bideltoid and used in long term blasts, yes eq does the same but barely noticeable difference in visible gains if you have shit genes, DHT derivates like primo and masteron are nothing compared to the quality gains and more powerful explosive effect on gains even a 120ib anorexic holocaust type build like me at 18 ascended to 182ibs from 19nors like Tren and Deca. Mast and primo is for u fat obese high body% Americans who obsess over abs and striations when i naturally have abs and striations by simply just cruising




19NORS > DHT DERIVED INJECTABLES

ONLY DHT DERIVES I RESPECT ARE ANADROL, SUPERDROL, WINNY AND ANAVAR

Miring the cardiovascular system bhai

 

[Crappypatty]

To keep most of your gains you need to Permablast. Like blasting heavy and your cruise should be a blast dose. You need to blast heavy like 20 weeks and cruise 8 weeks. You’d need to do this in a span of 2-3 years rarely 4 if u can. Once you cruise for life at a blast dose you’d lose between 20-65ibs of gains which is why you should ideally reach to 230 lean and 250 maxx atbloated. Then you’ll remain at somewhere between 165-230 in weight depending what you’ll do after ascending. This would be an example of someone who’s somewhere between 5’11”-6’3” and starting point of 120-150ibs.

[EVERYTHING I JUST WROTE WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF SOMEONE WHO HAS SHIT HYPER RESPONSE AND IS A HYPERTOLERATOR, SHIT ANDROGEN RECEPTORS, SENSITIVITY AND DENSITY WHILE HAVING A CAG REPEAT WHERE INSTEAD OF THEIR NATURAL TEST BEING USED TO BECOME CHAD WITH FACIAL HAIR, CHEST HAIR, STRONG JAW, BONES, BIDELTOID, FULL SET HEALTHY HAIR AND HAIRLINE, AND DEEP OGRE VOICE, INSTEAD THEYRE TEST IS CONVERTED TO HAIRLOSS, ACNE, ASS HAIR, NO CHEST HAIR, PUBESCENT SHIT FACIAL HAIR GROWTH AND RASPY NERD VOICE INSTEAD OF A MAN VOICE, BUT EITHER END OF THE CAG LINE CAN HAVE A BIG DIH, YOU COULD HAVE 1000ng/dl natural test and still be subhuman cause of shit cag repeats and shit genetics utilizing test for nothing contributing for your gene pool to pass on the bloodline and be a breed mogger you’d just be a discord mod cause your test decided to use it on your ahh hair instead of your chest hair and vocals]

so p much I HAVE to permablast if i wanted to keep most of my gains, is there really no other way, preferably id not want to stay on gear year round.