How to Maximize DHT + IGF-1 for Bone Density & Mogger Bone Structure (Scientific + Practical)

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How to Maximize DHT + IGF-1 for Bone Density & Mogger Bone Structure (Scientific + Practical)



If you’re serious about looksmaxing, you need to stop focusing only on soft tissue. Bone structure is king. It’s what separates normies from moggers.

Two of the most important hormones for this are DHT and IGF-1 — and yes, both can be naturally optimized. This thread is a guide.



1. DHT – The Masculinizing Mog Hormone



What it does:

• Increases jaw size, mandible density, and brow projection during development

• Improves bone mineral density in adult males

• Enhances facial masculinity and frame solidity

• Boosts aggression, drive, dominance (mogger mindset)



How to increase DHT naturally:

• Resistance training: Heavy compound lifts boost testosterone and DHT

• Zinc: Crucial for 5-alpha reductase (enzyme that converts T to DHT). Oysters > everything.

• Creatine: Proven to raise DHT in human studies. 3–5g daily.

• Vitamin D: Low vitamin D = low androgens. Get sun or supplement 4–5k IU daily.

• Reduce cortisol: Chronic stress kills testosterone and blocks DHT conversion. Sleep 7–9 hrs and avoid overtraining.

• Avoid seed oils + soy: Estrogenic and inflammatory. Destroy hormonal balance.



Optional edge-maxing:

• Microdosing tongkat ali, boron, and ashwagandha can support natural testosterone/DHT levels.

• DHT-enhancing grooming routine (minoxidil on jawline, microneedling scalp/jaw) — more for aesthetic sharpness than bone change but still relevant.



2. IGF-1 – The Anabolic Remodeling King



What it does:

• Stimulates bone growth, bone density, and repair

• Crucial for mandible thickening, zygomatic widening, and long-term bone optimization

• Also contributes to skin tightness and lean mass (mog aesthetics)



How to increase IGF-1 naturally:

• High-intensity resistance training (especially fasted + post-fed with protein)

• Adequate calories + protein: IGF-1 is highly nutrient-sensitive. Eat enough to grow.

• Leucine-rich foods (eggs, red meat, whey)

• Deep sleep: IGF-1 spikes during slow-wave sleep. No sleep = no growth.

• Intermittent fasting (strategic use): Boosts growth hormone, which increases IGF-1

• Colostrum or milk: Direct IGF-1 content + triggers natural production

• Low-inflammation diet: Chronic inflammation suppresses GH/IGF-1 axis



3. Final Form Stack (DHT + IGF-1 Combo for Bone Remodeling)



Here’s what a practical daily stack could look like:

• Creatine (5g)

• Zinc (30mg)

• Vitamin D (5000 IU)

• Whey protein (30g post-workout)

• Whole eggs + red meat

• Heavy lifting (3–5x/week)

• Sleep (8+ hours, dark room, no blue light)



Optional:

• Tongkat ali (200–400mg daily)

• Boron (3–10mg daily)

• Ashwagandha (300–600mg daily)

• Colostrum (2–4g daily)



4. Blackpill Reality Check

• If you’re past puberty, don’t expect skull shape transformation — but you can still densify bone, enhance jaw width, improve zygos, and thicken mandible.

• Combine this with mewing, chewing (mastic gum), posturemaxxing, and body fat optimization.

• You’re not changing your blueprint — you’re enhancing the frame you already have to mog potential.



Conclusion:



DHT and IGF-1 are the closest things to a natural bone structure upgrade. If you’re not optimizing these, you’re wasting genetic potential. This is how you go from softboy to mogger. No cope. Just results.



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How to Maximize DHT + IGF-1 for Bone Density & Mogger Bone Structure (Scientific + Practical)



If you’re serious about looksmaxing, you need to stop focusing only on soft tissue. Bone structure is king. It’s what separates normies from moggers.

Two of the most important hormones for this are DHT and IGF-1 — and yes, both can be naturally optimized. This thread is a guide.



1. DHT – The Masculinizing Mog Hormone



What it does:

• Increases jaw size, mandible density, and brow projection during development

• Improves bone mineral density in adult males

• Enhances facial masculinity and frame solidity

• Boosts aggression, drive, dominance (mogger mindset)



How to increase DHT naturally:

• Resistance training: Heavy compound lifts boost testosterone and DHT

• Zinc: Crucial for 5-alpha reductase (enzyme that converts T to DHT). Oysters > everything.

• Creatine: Proven to raise DHT in human studies. 3–5g daily.

• Vitamin D: Low vitamin D = low androgens. Get sun or supplement 4–5k IU daily.

• Reduce cortisol: Chronic stress kills testosterone and blocks DHT conversion. Sleep 7–9 hrs and avoid overtraining.

• Avoid seed oils + soy: Estrogenic and inflammatory. Destroy hormonal balance.



Optional edge-maxing:

• Microdosing tongkat ali, boron, and ashwagandha can support natural testosterone/DHT levels.

• DHT-enhancing grooming routine (minoxidil on jawline, microneedling scalp/jaw) — more for aesthetic sharpness than bone change but still relevant.



2. IGF-1 – The Anabolic Remodeling King



What it does:

• Stimulates bone growth, bone density, and repair

• Crucial for mandible thickening, zygomatic widening, and long-term bone optimization

• Also contributes to skin tightness and lean mass (mog aesthetics)



How to increase IGF-1 naturally:

• High-intensity resistance training (especially fasted + post-fed with protein)

• Adequate calories + protein: IGF-1 is highly nutrient-sensitive. Eat enough to grow.

• Leucine-rich foods (eggs, red meat, whey)

• Deep sleep: IGF-1 spikes during slow-wave sleep. No sleep = no growth.

• Intermittent fasting (strategic use): Boosts growth hormone, which increases IGF-1

• Colostrum or milk: Direct IGF-1 content + triggers natural production

• Low-inflammation diet: Chronic inflammation suppresses GH/IGF-1 axis



3. Final Form Stack (DHT + IGF-1 Combo for Bone Remodeling)



Here’s what a practical daily stack could look like:

• Creatine (5g)

• Zinc (30mg)

• Vitamin D (5000 IU)

• Whey protein (30g post-workout)

• Whole eggs + red meat

• Heavy lifting (3–5x/week)

• Sleep (8+ hours, dark room, no blue light)



Optional:

• Tongkat ali (200–400mg daily)

• Boron (3–10mg daily)

• Ashwagandha (300–600mg daily)

• Colostrum (2–4g daily)



4. Blackpill Reality Check

• If you’re past puberty, don’t expect skull shape transformation — but you can still densify bone, enhance jaw width, improve zygos, and thicken mandible.

• Combine this with mewing, chewing (mastic gum), posturemaxxing, and body fat optimization.

• You’re not changing your blueprint — you’re enhancing the frame you already have to mog potential.



Conclusion:



DHT and IGF-1 are the closest things to a natural bone structure upgrade. If you’re not optimizing these, you’re wasting genetic potential. This is how you go from softboy to mogger. No cope. Just results.



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How to Maximize DHT + IGF-1 for Bone Density & Mogger Bone Structure (Scientific + Practical)



If you’re serious about looksmaxing, you need to stop focusing only on soft tissue. Bone structure is king. It’s what separates normies from moggers.

Two of the most important hormones for this are DHT and IGF-1 — and yes, both can be naturally optimized. This thread is a guide.



1. DHT – The Masculinizing Mog Hormone



What it does:

• Increases jaw size, mandible density, and brow projection during development

• Improves bone mineral density in adult males

• Enhances facial masculinity and frame solidity

• Boosts aggression, drive, dominance (mogger mindset)



How to increase DHT naturally:

• Resistance training: Heavy compound lifts boost testosterone and DHT

• Zinc: Crucial for 5-alpha reductase (enzyme that converts T to DHT). Oysters > everything.

• Creatine: Proven to raise DHT in human studies. 3–5g daily.

• Vitamin D: Low vitamin D = low androgens. Get sun or supplement 4–5k IU daily.

• Reduce cortisol: Chronic stress kills testosterone and blocks DHT conversion. Sleep 7–9 hrs and avoid overtraining.

• Avoid seed oils + soy: Estrogenic and inflammatory. Destroy hormonal balance.



Optional edge-maxing:

• Microdosing tongkat ali, boron, and ashwagandha can support natural testosterone/DHT levels.

• DHT-enhancing grooming routine (minoxidil on jawline, microneedling scalp/jaw) — more for aesthetic sharpness than bone change but still relevant.



2. IGF-1 – The Anabolic Remodeling King



What it does:

• Stimulates bone growth, bone density, and repair

• Crucial for mandible thickening, zygomatic widening, and long-term bone optimization

• Also contributes to skin tightness and lean mass (mog aesthetics)



How to increase IGF-1 naturally:

• High-intensity resistance training (especially fasted + post-fed with protein)

• Adequate calories + protein: IGF-1 is highly nutrient-sensitive. Eat enough to grow.

• Leucine-rich foods (eggs, red meat, whey)

• Deep sleep: IGF-1 spikes during slow-wave sleep. No sleep = no growth.

• Intermittent fasting (strategic use): Boosts growth hormone, which increases IGF-1

• Colostrum or milk: Direct IGF-1 content + triggers natural production

• Low-inflammation diet: Chronic inflammation suppresses GH/IGF-1 axis



3. Final Form Stack (DHT + IGF-1 Combo for Bone Remodeling)



Here’s what a practical daily stack could look like:

• Creatine (5g)

• Zinc (30mg)

• Vitamin D (5000 IU)

• Whey protein (30g post-workout)

• Whole eggs + red meat

• Heavy lifting (3–5x/week)

• Sleep (8+ hours, dark room, no blue light)



Optional:

• Tongkat ali (200–400mg daily)

• Boron (3–10mg daily)

• Ashwagandha (300–600mg daily)

• Colostrum (2–4g daily)



4. Blackpill Reality Check

• If you’re past puberty, don’t expect skull shape transformation — but you can still densify bone, enhance jaw width, improve zygos, and thicken mandible.

• Combine this with mewing, chewing (mastic gum), posturemaxxing, and body fat optimization.

• You’re not changing your blueprint — you’re enhancing the frame you already have to mog potential.



Conclusion:



DHT and IGF-1 are the closest things to a natural bone structure upgrade. If you’re not optimizing these, you’re wasting genetic potential. This is how you go from softboy to mogger. No cope. Just results.



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How to Maximize DHT + IGF-1 for Bone Density & Mogger Bone Structure (Scientific + Practical)



If you’re serious about looksmaxing, you need to stop focusing only on soft tissue. Bone structure is king. It’s what separates normies from moggers.

Two of the most important hormones for this are DHT and IGF-1 — and yes, both can be naturally optimized. This thread is a guide.



1. DHT – The Masculinizing Mog Hormone



What it does:

• Increases jaw size, mandible density, and brow projection during development

• Improves bone mineral density in adult males

• Enhances facial masculinity and frame solidity

• Boosts aggression, drive, dominance (mogger mindset)



How to increase DHT naturally:

• Resistance training: Heavy compound lifts boost testosterone and DHT

• Zinc: Crucial for 5-alpha reductase (enzyme that converts T to DHT). Oysters > everything.

• Creatine: Proven to raise DHT in human studies. 3–5g daily.

• Vitamin D: Low vitamin D = low androgens. Get sun or supplement 4–5k IU daily.

• Reduce cortisol: Chronic stress kills testosterone and blocks DHT conversion. Sleep 7–9 hrs and avoid overtraining.

• Avoid seed oils + soy: Estrogenic and inflammatory. Destroy hormonal balance.



Optional edge-maxing:

• Microdosing tongkat ali, boron, and ashwagandha can support natural testosterone/DHT levels.

• DHT-enhancing grooming routine (minoxidil on jawline, microneedling scalp/jaw) — more for aesthetic sharpness than bone change but still relevant.



2. IGF-1 – The Anabolic Remodeling King



What it does:

• Stimulates bone growth, bone density, and repair

• Crucial for mandible thickening, zygomatic widening, and long-term bone optimization

• Also contributes to skin tightness and lean mass (mog aesthetics)



How to increase IGF-1 naturally:

• High-intensity resistance training (especially fasted + post-fed with protein)

• Adequate calories + protein: IGF-1 is highly nutrient-sensitive. Eat enough to grow.

• Leucine-rich foods (eggs, red meat, whey)

• Deep sleep: IGF-1 spikes during slow-wave sleep. No sleep = no growth.

• Intermittent fasting (strategic use): Boosts growth hormone, which increases IGF-1

• Colostrum or milk: Direct IGF-1 content + triggers natural production

• Low-inflammation diet: Chronic inflammation suppresses GH/IGF-1 axis



3. Final Form Stack (DHT + IGF-1 Combo for Bone Remodeling)



Here’s what a practical daily stack could look like:

• Creatine (5g)

• Zinc (30mg)

• Vitamin D (5000 IU)

• Whey protein (30g post-workout)

• Whole eggs + red meat

• Heavy lifting (3–5x/week)

• Sleep (8+ hours, dark room, no blue light)



Optional:

• Tongkat ali (200–400mg daily)

• Boron (3–10mg daily)

• Ashwagandha (300–600mg daily)

• Colostrum (2–4g daily)



4. Blackpill Reality Check

• If you’re past puberty, don’t expect skull shape transformation — but you can still densify bone, enhance jaw width, improve zygos, and thicken mandible.

• Combine this with mewing, chewing (mastic gum), posturemaxxing, and body fat optimization.

• You’re not changing your blueprint — you’re enhancing the frame you already have to mog potential.



Conclusion:



DHT and IGF-1 are the closest things to a natural bone structure upgrade. If you’re not optimizing these, you’re wasting genetic potential. This is how you go from softboy to mogger. No cope. Just results.



Drop questions or logs below. Will answer.
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How to Maximize DHT + IGF-1 for Bone Density & Mogger Bone Structure (Scientific + Practical)



If you’re serious about looksmaxing, you need to stop focusing only on soft tissue. Bone structure is king. It’s what separates normies from moggers.

Two of the most important hormones for this are DHT and IGF-1 — and yes, both can be naturally optimized. This thread is a guide.



1. DHT – The Masculinizing Mog Hormone



What it does:

• Increases jaw size, mandible density, and brow projection during development

• Improves bone mineral density in adult males

• Enhances facial masculinity and frame solidity

• Boosts aggression, drive, dominance (mogger mindset)



How to increase DHT naturally:

• Resistance training: Heavy compound lifts boost testosterone and DHT

• Zinc: Crucial for 5-alpha reductase (enzyme that converts T to DHT). Oysters > everything.

• Creatine: Proven to raise DHT in human studies. 3–5g daily.

• Vitamin D: Low vitamin D = low androgens. Get sun or supplement 4–5k IU daily.

• Reduce cortisol: Chronic stress kills testosterone and blocks DHT conversion. Sleep 7–9 hrs and avoid overtraining.

• Avoid seed oils + soy: Estrogenic and inflammatory. Destroy hormonal balance.



Optional edge-maxing:

• Microdosing tongkat ali, boron, and ashwagandha can support natural testosterone/DHT levels.

• DHT-enhancing grooming routine (minoxidil on jawline, microneedling scalp/jaw) — more for aesthetic sharpness than bone change but still relevant.



2. IGF-1 – The Anabolic Remodeling King



What it does:

• Stimulates bone growth, bone density, and repair

• Crucial for mandible thickening, zygomatic widening, and long-term bone optimization

• Also contributes to skin tightness and lean mass (mog aesthetics)



How to increase IGF-1 naturally:

• High-intensity resistance training (especially fasted + post-fed with protein)

• Adequate calories + protein: IGF-1 is highly nutrient-sensitive. Eat enough to grow.

• Leucine-rich foods (eggs, red meat, whey)

• Deep sleep: IGF-1 spikes during slow-wave sleep. No sleep = no growth.

• Intermittent fasting (strategic use): Boosts growth hormone, which increases IGF-1

• Colostrum or milk: Direct IGF-1 content + triggers natural production

• Low-inflammation diet: Chronic inflammation suppresses GH/IGF-1 axis



3. Final Form Stack (DHT + IGF-1 Combo for Bone Remodeling)



Here’s what a practical daily stack could look like:

• Creatine (5g)

• Zinc (30mg)

• Vitamin D (5000 IU)

• Whey protein (30g post-workout)

• Whole eggs + red meat

• Heavy lifting (3–5x/week)

• Sleep (8+ hours, dark room, no blue light)



Optional:

• Tongkat ali (200–400mg daily)

• Boron (3–10mg daily)

• Ashwagandha (300–600mg daily)

• Colostrum (2–4g daily)



4. Blackpill Reality Check

• If you’re past puberty, don’t expect skull shape transformation — but you can still densify bone, enhance jaw width, improve zygos, and thicken mandible.

• Combine this with mewing, chewing (mastic gum), posturemaxxing, and body fat optimization.

• You’re not changing your blueprint — you’re enhancing the frame you already have to mog potential.



Conclusion:



DHT and IGF-1 are the closest things to a natural bone structure upgrade. If you’re not optimizing these, you’re wasting genetic potential. This is how you go from softboy to mogger. No cope. Just results.



Drop questions or logs below. Will answer.
 
How to Maximize DHT + IGF-1 for Bone Density & Mogger Bone Structure (Scientific + Practical)



If you’re serious about looksmaxing, you need to stop focusing only on soft tissue. Bone structure is king. It’s what separates normies from moggers.

Two of the most important hormones for this are DHT and IGF-1 — and yes, both can be naturally optimized. This thread is a guide.



1. DHT – The Masculinizing Mog Hormone



What it does:

• Increases jaw size, mandible density, and brow projection during development

• Improves bone mineral density in adult males

• Enhances facial masculinity and frame solidity

• Boosts aggression, drive, dominance (mogger mindset)



How to increase DHT naturally:

• Resistance training: Heavy compound lifts boost testosterone and DHT

• Zinc: Crucial for 5-alpha reductase (enzyme that converts T to DHT). Oysters > everything.

• Creatine: Proven to raise DHT in human studies. 3–5g daily.

• Vitamin D: Low vitamin D = low androgens. Get sun or supplement 4–5k IU daily.

• Reduce cortisol: Chronic stress kills testosterone and blocks DHT conversion. Sleep 7–9 hrs and avoid overtraining.

• Avoid seed oils + soy: Estrogenic and inflammatory. Destroy hormonal balance.



Optional edge-maxing:

• Microdosing tongkat ali, boron, and ashwagandha can support natural testosterone/DHT levels.

• DHT-enhancing grooming routine (minoxidil on jawline, microneedling scalp/jaw) — more for aesthetic sharpness than bone change but still relevant.



2. IGF-1 – The Anabolic Remodeling King



What it does:

• Stimulates bone growth, bone density, and repair

• Crucial for mandible thickening, zygomatic widening, and long-term bone optimization

• Also contributes to skin tightness and lean mass (mog aesthetics)



How to increase IGF-1 naturally:

• High-intensity resistance training (especially fasted + post-fed with protein)

• Adequate calories + protein: IGF-1 is highly nutrient-sensitive. Eat enough to grow.

• Leucine-rich foods (eggs, red meat, whey)

• Deep sleep: IGF-1 spikes during slow-wave sleep. No sleep = no growth.

• Intermittent fasting (strategic use): Boosts growth hormone, which increases IGF-1

• Colostrum or milk: Direct IGF-1 content + triggers natural production

• Low-inflammation diet: Chronic inflammation suppresses GH/IGF-1 axis



3. Final Form Stack (DHT + IGF-1 Combo for Bone Remodeling)



Here’s what a practical daily stack could look like:

• Creatine (5g)

• Zinc (30mg)

• Vitamin D (5000 IU)

• Whey protein (30g post-workout)

• Whole eggs + red meat

• Heavy lifting (3–5x/week)

• Sleep (8+ hours, dark room, no blue light)



Optional:

• Tongkat ali (200–400mg daily)

• Boron (3–10mg daily)

• Ashwagandha (300–600mg daily)

• Colostrum (2–4g daily)



4. Blackpill Reality Check

• If you’re past puberty, don’t expect skull shape transformation — but you can still densify bone, enhance jaw width, improve zygos, and thicken mandible.

• Combine this with mewing, chewing (mastic gum), posturemaxxing, and body fat optimization.

• You’re not changing your blueprint — you’re enhancing the frame you already have to mog potential.



Conclusion:



DHT and IGF-1 are the closest things to a natural bone structure upgrade. If you’re not optimizing these, you’re wasting genetic potential. This is how you go from softboy to mogger. No cope. Just results.



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• Enhances facial masculinity and frame solidity
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How to Maximize DHT + IGF-1 for Bone Density & Mogger Bone Structure (Scientific + Practical)



If you’re serious about looksmaxing, you need to stop focusing only on soft tissue. Bone structure is king. It’s what separates normies from moggers.

Two of the most important hormones for this are DHT and IGF-1 — and yes, both can be naturally optimized. This thread is a guide.



1. DHT – The Masculinizing Mog Hormone



What it does:

• Increases jaw size, mandible density, and brow projection during development

• Improves bone mineral density in adult males

• Enhances facial masculinity and frame solidity

• Boosts aggression, drive, dominance (mogger mindset)



How to increase DHT naturally:

• Resistance training: Heavy compound lifts boost testosterone and DHT

• Zinc: Crucial for 5-alpha reductase (enzyme that converts T to DHT). Oysters > everything.

• Creatine: Proven to raise DHT in human studies. 3–5g daily.

• Vitamin D: Low vitamin D = low androgens. Get sun or supplement 4–5k IU daily.

• Reduce cortisol: Chronic stress kills testosterone and blocks DHT conversion. Sleep 7–9 hrs and avoid overtraining.

• Avoid seed oils + soy: Estrogenic and inflammatory. Destroy hormonal balance.



Optional edge-maxing:

• Microdosing tongkat ali, boron, and ashwagandha can support natural testosterone/DHT levels.

• DHT-enhancing grooming routine (minoxidil on jawline, microneedling scalp/jaw) — more for aesthetic sharpness than bone change but still relevant.



2. IGF-1 – The Anabolic Remodeling King



What it does:

• Stimulates bone growth, bone density, and repair

• Crucial for mandible thickening, zygomatic widening, and long-term bone optimization

• Also contributes to skin tightness and lean mass (mog aesthetics)



How to increase IGF-1 naturally:

• High-intensity resistance training (especially fasted + post-fed with protein)

• Adequate calories + protein: IGF-1 is highly nutrient-sensitive. Eat enough to grow.

• Leucine-rich foods (eggs, red meat, whey)

• Deep sleep: IGF-1 spikes during slow-wave sleep. No sleep = no growth.

• Intermittent fasting (strategic use): Boosts growth hormone, which increases IGF-1

• Colostrum or milk: Direct IGF-1 content + triggers natural production

• Low-inflammation diet: Chronic inflammation suppresses GH/IGF-1 axis



3. Final Form Stack (DHT + IGF-1 Combo for Bone Remodeling)



Here’s what a practical daily stack could look like:

• Creatine (5g)

• Zinc (30mg)

• Vitamin D (5000 IU)

• Whey protein (30g post-workout)

• Whole eggs + red meat

• Heavy lifting (3–5x/week)

• Sleep (8+ hours, dark room, no blue light)



Optional:

• Tongkat ali (200–400mg daily)

• Boron (3–10mg daily)

• Ashwagandha (300–600mg daily)

• Colostrum (2–4g daily)



4. Blackpill Reality Check

• If you’re past puberty, don’t expect skull shape transformation — but you can still densify bone, enhance jaw width, improve zygos, and thicken mandible.

• Combine this with mewing, chewing (mastic gum), posturemaxxing, and body fat optimization.

• You’re not changing your blueprint — you’re enhancing the frame you already have to mog potential.



Conclusion:



DHT and IGF-1 are the closest things to a natural bone structure upgrade. If you’re not optimizing these, you’re wasting genetic potential. This is how you go from softboy to mogger. No cope. Just results.



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what if i dont wanna lift or drink whey? and js can get protein from eggs and stuff also for a youngcel
 
-Zinc inhibits 5-alpha-reductase in vitro
-Intermittent fasting increases HGH but reduces IGF-1
-Boron will begin to increase your estrogen if taken long-term (must be cycled)
-The low-inflammation diet is also suspect. The best diet for increasing IGF-1 is a diet with a high glycemic load (and high dairy) AKA high in simple carbs such as sugar, white flour, white rice ect. A diet like this is actually very pro-inflammatory and bad for longevity, increasing risk of diabetes and cancer amongst other morbidities but is optimal for the goals of maximising tissue growth

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How to Maximize DHT + IGF-1 for Bone Density & Mogger Bone Structure (Scientific + Practical)



If you’re serious about looksmaxing, you need to stop focusing only on soft tissue. Bone structure is king. It’s what separates normies from moggers.

Two of the most important hormones for this are DHT and IGF-1 — and yes, both can be naturally optimized. This thread is a guide.



1. DHT – The Masculinizing Mog Hormone



What it does:

• Increases jaw size, mandible density, and brow projection during development

• Improves bone mineral density in adult males

• Enhances facial masculinity and frame solidity

• Boosts aggression, drive, dominance (mogger mindset)



How to increase DHT naturally:

• Resistance training: Heavy compound lifts boost testosterone and DHT

• Zinc: Crucial for 5-alpha reductase (enzyme that converts T to DHT). Oysters > everything.

• Creatine: Proven to raise DHT in human studies. 3–5g daily.

• Vitamin D: Low vitamin D = low androgens. Get sun or supplement 4–5k IU daily.

• Reduce cortisol: Chronic stress kills testosterone and blocks DHT conversion. Sleep 7–9 hrs and avoid overtraining.

• Avoid seed oils + soy: Estrogenic and inflammatory. Destroy hormonal balance.



Optional edge-maxing:

• Microdosing tongkat ali, boron, and ashwagandha can support natural testosterone/DHT levels.

• DHT-enhancing grooming routine (minoxidil on jawline, microneedling scalp/jaw) — more for aesthetic sharpness than bone change but still relevant.



2. IGF-1 – The Anabolic Remodeling King



What it does:

• Stimulates bone growth, bone density, and repair

• Crucial for mandible thickening, zygomatic widening, and long-term bone optimization

• Also contributes to skin tightness and lean mass (mog aesthetics)



How to increase IGF-1 naturally:

• High-intensity resistance training (especially fasted + post-fed with protein)

• Adequate calories + protein: IGF-1 is highly nutrient-sensitive. Eat enough to grow.

• Leucine-rich foods (eggs, red meat, whey)

• Deep sleep: IGF-1 spikes during slow-wave sleep. No sleep = no growth.

• Intermittent fasting (strategic use): Boosts growth hormone, which increases IGF-1

• Colostrum or milk: Direct IGF-1 content + triggers natural production

• Low-inflammation diet: Chronic inflammation suppresses GH/IGF-1 axis



3. Final Form Stack (DHT + IGF-1 Combo for Bone Remodeling)



Here’s what a practical daily stack could look like:

• Creatine (5g)

• Zinc (30mg)

• Vitamin D (5000 IU)

• Whey protein (30g post-workout)

• Whole eggs + red meat

• Heavy lifting (3–5x/week)

• Sleep (8+ hours, dark room, no blue light)



Optional:

• Tongkat ali (200–400mg daily)

• Boron (3–10mg daily)

• Ashwagandha (300–600mg daily)

• Colostrum (2–4g daily)



4. Blackpill Reality Check

• If you’re past puberty, don’t expect skull shape transformation — but you can still densify bone, enhance jaw width, improve zygos, and thicken mandible.

• Combine this with mewing, chewing (mastic gum), posturemaxxing, and body fat optimization.

• You’re not changing your blueprint — you’re enhancing the frame you already have to mog potential.



Conclusion:



DHT and IGF-1 are the closest things to a natural bone structure upgrade. If you’re not optimizing these, you’re wasting genetic potential. This is how you go from softboy to mogger. No cope. Just results.



Drop questions or logs below. Will answer.
Dnr, but probably good
 
How to Maximize DHT + IGF-1 for Bone Density & Mogger Bone Structure (Scientific + Practical)



If you’re serious about looksmaxing, you need to stop focusing only on soft tissue. Bone structure is king. It’s what separates normies from moggers.

Two of the most important hormones for this are DHT and IGF-1 — and yes, both can be naturally optimized. This thread is a guide.



1. DHT – The Masculinizing Mog Hormone



What it does:

• Increases jaw size, mandible density, and brow projection during development

• Improves bone mineral density in adult males

• Enhances facial masculinity and frame solidity

• Boosts aggression, drive, dominance (mogger mindset)



How to increase DHT naturally:

• Resistance training: Heavy compound lifts boost testosterone and DHT

• Zinc: Crucial for 5-alpha reductase (enzyme that converts T to DHT). Oysters > everything.

• Creatine: Proven to raise DHT in human studies. 3–5g daily.

• Vitamin D: Low vitamin D = low androgens. Get sun or supplement 4–5k IU daily.

• Reduce cortisol: Chronic stress kills testosterone and blocks DHT conversion. Sleep 7–9 hrs and avoid overtraining.

• Avoid seed oils + soy: Estrogenic and inflammatory. Destroy hormonal balance.



Optional edge-maxing:

• Microdosing tongkat ali, boron, and ashwagandha can support natural testosterone/DHT levels.

• DHT-enhancing grooming routine (minoxidil on jawline, microneedling scalp/jaw) — more for aesthetic sharpness than bone change but still relevant.



2. IGF-1 – The Anabolic Remodeling King



What it does:

• Stimulates bone growth, bone density, and repair

• Crucial for mandible thickening, zygomatic widening, and long-term bone optimization

• Also contributes to skin tightness and lean mass (mog aesthetics)



How to increase IGF-1 naturally:

• High-intensity resistance training (especially fasted + post-fed with protein)

• Adequate calories + protein: IGF-1 is highly nutrient-sensitive. Eat enough to grow.

• Leucine-rich foods (eggs, red meat, whey)

• Deep sleep: IGF-1 spikes during slow-wave sleep. No sleep = no growth.

• Intermittent fasting (strategic use): Boosts growth hormone, which increases IGF-1

• Colostrum or milk: Direct IGF-1 content + triggers natural production

• Low-inflammation diet: Chronic inflammation suppresses GH/IGF-1 axis



3. Final Form Stack (DHT + IGF-1 Combo for Bone Remodeling)



Here’s what a practical daily stack could look like:

• Creatine (5g)

• Zinc (30mg)

• Vitamin D (5000 IU)

• Whey protein (30g post-workout)

• Whole eggs + red meat

• Heavy lifting (3–5x/week)

• Sleep (8+ hours, dark room, no blue light)



Optional:

• Tongkat ali (200–400mg daily)

• Boron (3–10mg daily)

• Ashwagandha (300–600mg daily)

• Colostrum (2–4g daily)



4. Blackpill Reality Check

• If you’re past puberty, don’t expect skull shape transformation — but you can still densify bone, enhance jaw width, improve zygos, and thicken mandible.

• Combine this with mewing, chewing (mastic gum), posturemaxxing, and body fat optimization.

• You’re not changing your blueprint — you’re enhancing the frame you already have to mog potential.



Conclusion:



DHT and IGF-1 are the closest things to a natural bone structure upgrade. If you’re not optimizing these, you’re wasting genetic potential. This is how you go from softboy to mogger. No cope. Just results.



Drop questions or logs below. Will answer.

-Zinc inhibits 5-alpha-reductase in vitro
-Intermittent fasting increases HGH but reduces IGF-1
-Boron will begin to increase your estrogen if taken long-term (must be cycled)
-The low-inflammation diet is also suspect. The best diet for increasing IGF-1 is a diet with a high glycemic load (and high dairy) AKA high in simple carbs such as sugar, white flour, white rice ect. A diet like this is actually very pro-inflammatory and bad for longevity, increasing risk of diabetes and cancer amongst other morbidities but is optimal for the goals of maximising tissue growth

TLDR don't listen to this clueless retard
I read zinc can go both ways
 
-Zinc inhibits 5-alpha-reductase in vitro
-Intermittent fasting increases HGH but reduces IGF-1
-Boron will begin to increase your estrogen if taken long-term (must be cycled)
-The low-inflammation diet is also suspect. The best diet for increasing IGF-1 is a diet with a high glycemic load (and high dairy) AKA high in simple carbs such as sugar, white flour, white rice ect. A diet like this is actually very pro-inflammatory and bad for longevity, increasing risk of diabetes and cancer amongst other morbidities but is optimal for the goals of maximising tissue growth

TLDR don't listen to this clueless retard
I was caging when I read this thread btw

OP is a retard with Oscar Patel level info
 
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I read zinc can go both ways
There is conflicting research and I'm not confident in its ability to either. No one will do proper high-quality research on something like this as there is no money to be made off prescribing people zinc for hair loss over some patented big pharma drug.
 
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There is conflicting research and I'm not confident in its ability to either. No one will do proper high-quality research on something like this as there is no money to be made off prescribing people zinc for hair loss over some patented big pharma drug.
I've already ordered ZMA though lmao.
currently 16. i wondered if it'd help increase bonemass. my zinc and magnesium intake isn't in the ideal range . just a bit lower so i ordered them. it's like 3 pills per day so ig i should take just 1-2 to get a lil bit just to stay in the ideal range.
what do u think?
 
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How to Maximize DHT + IGF-1 for Bone Density & Mogger Bone Structure (Scientific + Practical)



If you’re serious about looksmaxing, you need to stop focusing only on soft tissue. Bone structure is king. It’s what separates normies from moggers.

Two of the most important hormones for this are DHT and IGF-1 — and yes, both can be naturally optimized. This thread is a guide.



1. DHT – The Masculinizing Mog Hormone



What it does:

• Increases jaw size, mandible density, and brow projection during development

• Improves bone mineral density in adult males

• Enhances facial masculinity and frame solidity

• Boosts aggression, drive, dominance (mogger mindset)



How to increase DHT naturally:

• Resistance training: Heavy compound lifts boost testosterone and DHT

• Zinc: Crucial for 5-alpha reductase (enzyme that converts T to DHT). Oysters > everything.

• Creatine: Proven to raise DHT in human studies. 3–5g daily.

• Vitamin D: Low vitamin D = low androgens. Get sun or supplement 4–5k IU daily.

• Reduce cortisol: Chronic stress kills testosterone and blocks DHT conversion. Sleep 7–9 hrs and avoid overtraining.

• Avoid seed oils + soy: Estrogenic and inflammatory. Destroy hormonal balance.



Optional edge-maxing:

• Microdosing tongkat ali, boron, and ashwagandha can support natural testosterone/DHT levels.

• DHT-enhancing grooming routine (minoxidil on jawline, microneedling scalp/jaw) — more for aesthetic sharpness than bone change but still relevant.



2. IGF-1 – The Anabolic Remodeling King



What it does:

• Stimulates bone growth, bone density, and repair

• Crucial for mandible thickening, zygomatic widening, and long-term bone optimization

• Also contributes to skin tightness and lean mass (mog aesthetics)



How to increase IGF-1 naturally:

• High-intensity resistance training (especially fasted + post-fed with protein)

• Adequate calories + protein: IGF-1 is highly nutrient-sensitive. Eat enough to grow.

• Leucine-rich foods (eggs, red meat, whey)

• Deep sleep: IGF-1 spikes during slow-wave sleep. No sleep = no growth.

• Intermittent fasting (strategic use): Boosts growth hormone, which increases IGF-1

• Colostrum or milk: Direct IGF-1 content + triggers natural production

• Low-inflammation diet: Chronic inflammation suppresses GH/IGF-1 axis



3. Final Form Stack (DHT + IGF-1 Combo for Bone Remodeling)



Here’s what a practical daily stack could look like:

• Creatine (5g)

• Zinc (30mg)

• Vitamin D (5000 IU)

• Whey protein (30g post-workout)

• Whole eggs + red meat

• Heavy lifting (3–5x/week)

• Sleep (8+ hours, dark room, no blue light)



Optional:

• Tongkat ali (200–400mg daily)

• Boron (3–10mg daily)

• Ashwagandha (300–600mg daily)

• Colostrum (2–4g daily)



4. Blackpill Reality Check

• If you’re past puberty, don’t expect skull shape transformation — but you can still densify bone, enhance jaw width, improve zygos, and thicken mandible.

• Combine this with mewing, chewing (mastic gum), posturemaxxing, and body fat optimization.

• You’re not changing your blueprint — you’re enhancing the frame you already have to mog potential.



Conclusion:



DHT and IGF-1 are the closest things to a natural bone structure upgrade. If you’re not optimizing these, you’re wasting genetic potential. This is how you go from softboy to mogger. No cope. Just results.



Drop questions or logs below. Will answer.
Dht is the reaper , testosterone is the alpha chad mogger hormone don't confuse each
 
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How to Maximize DHT + IGF-1 for Bone Density & Mogger Bone Structure (Scientific + Practical)



If you’re serious about looksmaxing, you need to stop focusing only on soft tissue. Bone structure is king. It’s what separates normies from moggers.

Two of the most important hormones for this are DHT and IGF-1 — and yes, both can be naturally optimized. This thread is a guide.



1. DHT – The Masculinizing Mog Hormone



What it does:

• Increases jaw size, mandible density, and brow projection during development

• Improves bone mineral density in adult males

• Enhances facial masculinity and frame solidity

• Boosts aggression, drive, dominance (mogger mindset)



How to increase DHT naturally:

• Resistance training: Heavy compound lifts boost testosterone and DHT

• Zinc: Crucial for 5-alpha reductase (enzyme that converts T to DHT). Oysters > everything.

• Creatine: Proven to raise DHT in human studies. 3–5g daily.

• Vitamin D: Low vitamin D = low androgens. Get sun or supplement 4–5k IU daily.

• Reduce cortisol: Chronic stress kills testosterone and blocks DHT conversion. Sleep 7–9 hrs and avoid overtraining.

• Avoid seed oils + soy: Estrogenic and inflammatory. Destroy hormonal balance.



Optional edge-maxing:

• Microdosing tongkat ali, boron, and ashwagandha can support natural testosterone/DHT levels.

• DHT-enhancing grooming routine (minoxidil on jawline, microneedling scalp/jaw) — more for aesthetic sharpness than bone change but still relevant.



2. IGF-1 – The Anabolic Remodeling King



What it does:

• Stimulates bone growth, bone density, and repair

• Crucial for mandible thickening, zygomatic widening, and long-term bone optimization

• Also contributes to skin tightness and lean mass (mog aesthetics)



How to increase IGF-1 naturally:

• High-intensity resistance training (especially fasted + post-fed with protein)

• Adequate calories + protein: IGF-1 is highly nutrient-sensitive. Eat enough to grow.

• Leucine-rich foods (eggs, red meat, whey)

• Deep sleep: IGF-1 spikes during slow-wave sleep. No sleep = no growth.

• Intermittent fasting (strategic use): Boosts growth hormone, which increases IGF-1

• Colostrum or milk: Direct IGF-1 content + triggers natural production

• Low-inflammation diet: Chronic inflammation suppresses GH/IGF-1 axis



3. Final Form Stack (DHT + IGF-1 Combo for Bone Remodeling)



Here’s what a practical daily stack could look like:

• Creatine (5g)

• Zinc (30mg)

• Vitamin D (5000 IU)

• Whey protein (30g post-workout)

• Whole eggs + red meat

• Heavy lifting (3–5x/week)

• Sleep (8+ hours, dark room, no blue light)



Optional:

• Tongkat ali (200–400mg daily)

• Boron (3–10mg daily)

• Ashwagandha (300–600mg daily)

• Colostrum (2–4g daily)



4. Blackpill Reality Check

• If you’re past puberty, don’t expect skull shape transformation — but you can still densify bone, enhance jaw width, improve zygos, and thicken mandible.

• Combine this with mewing, chewing (mastic gum), posturemaxxing, and body fat optimization.

• You’re not changing your blueprint — you’re enhancing the frame you already have to mog potential.



Conclusion:



DHT and IGF-1 are the closest things to a natural bone structure upgrade. If you’re not optimizing these, you’re wasting genetic potential. This is how you go from softboy to mogger. No cope. Just results.



Drop questions or logs below. Will answer.
water
 
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stress is good nigger:soy: stress and meth cause aggressive hypothalamic overdrive making the hypothalamus to release tons of LH causing excess test and causes adrenal hyperplasia cause excess adrenal androgen production but it will also rape your skin quality in the face because of high cortisol from the stress but it will go away because the body cant secrete tons of cortisol permanently so it will significantly lower after the body has adapted to the cortisol and cause the adrenals to burnout so then the body will sense very low cortisol causing the pituitary and hypothalamus to overcompensate by massively increasing the androgens in the adrenal cortex making it the adrenals bigger and bigger adrenals=way more androgens so you will get permanent high androgens currently trying this absolute cheat code of a method but no money for meth so im laying a little short with the gains:forcedsmile:
 
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stress is good nigger:soy: stress and meth cause aggressive hypothalamic overdrive making the hypothalamus to release tons of LH causing excess test and causes adrenal hyperplasia cause excess adrenal androgen production but it will also rape your skin quality in the face because of high cortisol from the stress but it will go away because the body cant secrete tons of cortisol permanently so it will significantly lower after the body has adapted to the cortisol and cause the adrenals to burnout so then the body will sense very low cortisol causing the pituitary and hypothalamus to overcompensate by massively increasing the androgens in the adrenal cortex making it the adrenals bigger and bigger adrenals=way more androgens so you will get permanent high androgens currently trying this absolute cheat code of a method but no money for meth so im laying a little short with the gains:forcedsmile:
but the stress and if you use chronically meth it will fuck up IGF-1 and HGH levels
 
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dnr a single molecule dht is for bald retards
 
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DHT Maxxing = Aging maxxing/baldmaxxing/badskinmaxxing/hairygrossbodymaxxing.

LOL
 
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How to Maximize DHT + IGF-1 for Bone Density & Mogger Bone Structure (Scientific + Practical)



If you’re serious about looksmaxing, you need to stop focusing only on soft tissue. Bone structure is king. It’s what separates normies from moggers.

Two of the most important hormones for this are DHT and IGF-1 — and yes, both can be naturally optimized. This thread is a guide.



1. DHT – The Masculinizing Mog Hormone



What it does:

• Increases jaw size, mandible density, and brow projection during development

• Improves bone mineral density in adult males

• Enhances facial masculinity and frame solidity

• Boosts aggression, drive, dominance (mogger mindset)



How to increase DHT naturally:

• Resistance training: Heavy compound lifts boost testosterone and DHT

• Zinc: Crucial for 5-alpha reductase (enzyme that converts T to DHT). Oysters > everything.

• Creatine: Proven to raise DHT in human studies. 3–5g daily.

• Vitamin D: Low vitamin D = low androgens. Get sun or supplement 4–5k IU daily.

• Reduce cortisol: Chronic stress kills testosterone and blocks DHT conversion. Sleep 7–9 hrs and avoid overtraining.

• Avoid seed oils + soy: Estrogenic and inflammatory. Destroy hormonal balance.



Optional edge-maxing:

• Microdosing tongkat ali, boron, and ashwagandha can support natural testosterone/DHT levels.

• DHT-enhancing grooming routine (minoxidil on jawline, microneedling scalp/jaw) — more for aesthetic sharpness than bone change but still relevant.



2. IGF-1 – The Anabolic Remodeling King



What it does:

• Stimulates bone growth, bone density, and repair

• Crucial for mandible thickening, zygomatic widening, and long-term bone optimization

• Also contributes to skin tightness and lean mass (mog aesthetics)



How to increase IGF-1 naturally:

• High-intensity resistance training (especially fasted + post-fed with protein)

• Adequate calories + protein: IGF-1 is highly nutrient-sensitive. Eat enough to grow.

• Leucine-rich foods (eggs, red meat, whey)

• Deep sleep: IGF-1 spikes during slow-wave sleep. No sleep = no growth.

• Intermittent fasting (strategic use): Boosts growth hormone, which increases IGF-1

• Colostrum or milk: Direct IGF-1 content + triggers natural production

• Low-inflammation diet: Chronic inflammation suppresses GH/IGF-1 axis



3. Final Form Stack (DHT + IGF-1 Combo for Bone Remodeling)



Here’s what a practical daily stack could look like:

• Creatine (5g)

• Zinc (30mg)

• Vitamin D (5000 IU)

• Whey protein (30g post-workout)

• Whole eggs + red meat

• Heavy lifting (3–5x/week)

• Sleep (8+ hours, dark room, no blue light)



Optional:

• Tongkat ali (200–400mg daily)

• Boron (3–10mg daily)

• Ashwagandha (300–600mg daily)

• Colostrum (2–4g daily)



4. Blackpill Reality Check

• If you’re past puberty, don’t expect skull shape transformation — but you can still densify bone, enhance jaw width, improve zygos, and thicken mandible.

• Combine this with mewing, chewing (mastic gum), posturemaxxing, and body fat optimization.

• You’re not changing your blueprint — you’re enhancing the frame you already have to mog potential.



Conclusion:



DHT and IGF-1 are the closest things to a natural bone structure upgrade. If you’re not optimizing these, you’re wasting genetic potential. This is how you go from softboy to mogger. No cope. Just results.



Drop questions or logs below. Will answer.
Thank you cahtjewpt nigger!
 
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How to Maximize DHT + IGF-1 for Bone Density & Mogger Bone Structure (Scientific + Practical)



If you’re serious about looksmaxing, you need to stop focusing only on soft tissue. Bone structure is king. It’s what separates normies from moggers.

Two of the most important hormones for this are DHT and IGF-1 — and yes, both can be naturally optimized. This thread is a guide.



1. DHT – The Masculinizing Mog Hormone



What it does:

• Increases jaw size, mandible density, and brow projection during development

• Improves bone mineral density in adult males

• Enhances facial masculinity and frame solidity

• Boosts aggression, drive, dominance (mogger mindset)



How to increase DHT naturally:

• Resistance training: Heavy compound lifts boost testosterone and DHT

• Zinc: Crucial for 5-alpha reductase (enzyme that converts T to DHT). Oysters > everything.

• Creatine: Proven to raise DHT in human studies. 3–5g daily.

• Vitamin D: Low vitamin D = low androgens. Get sun or supplement 4–5k IU daily.

• Reduce cortisol: Chronic stress kills testosterone and blocks DHT conversion. Sleep 7–9 hrs and avoid overtraining.

• Avoid seed oils + soy: Estrogenic and inflammatory. Destroy hormonal balance.



Optional edge-maxing:

• Microdosing tongkat ali, boron, and ashwagandha can support natural testosterone/DHT levels.

• DHT-enhancing grooming routine (minoxidil on jawline, microneedling scalp/jaw) — more for aesthetic sharpness than bone change but still relevant.



2. IGF-1 – The Anabolic Remodeling King



What it does:

• Stimulates bone growth, bone density, and repair

• Crucial for mandible thickening, zygomatic widening, and long-term bone optimization

• Also contributes to skin tightness and lean mass (mog aesthetics)



How to increase IGF-1 naturally:

• High-intensity resistance training (especially fasted + post-fed with protein)

• Adequate calories + protein: IGF-1 is highly nutrient-sensitive. Eat enough to grow.

• Leucine-rich foods (eggs, red meat, whey)

• Deep sleep: IGF-1 spikes during slow-wave sleep. No sleep = no growth.

• Intermittent fasting (strategic use): Boosts growth hormone, which increases IGF-1

• Colostrum or milk: Direct IGF-1 content + triggers natural production

• Low-inflammation diet: Chronic inflammation suppresses GH/IGF-1 axis



3. Final Form Stack (DHT + IGF-1 Combo for Bone Remodeling)



Here’s what a practical daily stack could look like:

• Creatine (5g)

• Zinc (30mg)

• Vitamin D (5000 IU)

• Whey protein (30g post-workout)

• Whole eggs + red meat

• Heavy lifting (3–5x/week)

• Sleep (8+ hours, dark room, no blue light)



Optional:

• Tongkat ali (200–400mg daily)

• Boron (3–10mg daily)

• Ashwagandha (300–600mg daily)

• Colostrum (2–4g daily)



4. Blackpill Reality Check

• If you’re past puberty, don’t expect skull shape transformation — but you can still densify bone, enhance jaw width, improve zygos, and thicken mandible.

• Combine this with mewing, chewing (mastic gum), posturemaxxing, and body fat optimization.

• You’re not changing your blueprint — you’re enhancing the frame you already have to mog potential.



Conclusion:



DHT and IGF-1 are the closest things to a natural bone structure upgrade. If you’re not optimizing these, you’re wasting genetic potential. This is how you go from softboy to mogger. No cope. Just results.



Drop questions or logs below. Will answer.
Ashwagandha 😂😂🤣🤣
 
Also the test released acts as sort of an antioxidant, combatting oxidative stress. So yes elevating test through working out and the slight subsequent rise of cortisol following is necessary and beneficial for you
stress is good nigger:soy: stress and meth cause aggressive hypothalamic overdrive making the hypothalamus to release tons of LH causing excess test and causes adrenal hyperplasia cause excess adrenal androgen production but it will also rape your skin quality in the face because of high cortisol from the stress but it will go away because the body cant secrete tons of cortisol permanently so it will significantly lower after the body has adapted to the cortisol and cause the adrenals to burnout so then the body will sense very low cortisol causing the pituitary and hypothalamus to overcompensate by massively increasing the androgens in the adrenal cortex making it the adrenals bigger and bigger adrenals=way more androgens so you will get permanent high androgens currently trying this absolute cheat code of a method but no money for meth so im laying a little short with the gains:forcedsmile:
 
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gram of test, 15iu GH works pretty well too
 
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Also the test released acts as sort of an antioxidant, combatting oxidative stress. So yes elevating test through working out and the slight subsequent rise of cortisol following is necessary and beneficial for you
exactly!
 
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How to Maximize DHT + IGF-1 for Bone Density & Mogger Bone Structure (Scientific + Practical)



If you’re serious about looksmaxing, you need to stop focusing only on soft tissue. Bone structure is king. It’s what separates normies from moggers.

Two of the most important hormones for this are DHT and IGF-1 — and yes, both can be naturally optimized. This thread is a guide.



1. DHT – The Masculinizing Mog Hormone



What it does:

• Increases jaw size, mandible density, and brow projection during development

• Improves bone mineral density in adult males

• Enhances facial masculinity and frame solidity

• Boosts aggression, drive, dominance (mogger mindset)



How to increase DHT naturally:

• Resistance training: Heavy compound lifts boost testosterone and DHT

• Zinc: Crucial for 5-alpha reductase (enzyme that converts T to DHT). Oysters > everything.

• Creatine: Proven to raise DHT in human studies. 3–5g daily.

• Vitamin D: Low vitamin D = low androgens. Get sun or supplement 4–5k IU daily.

• Reduce cortisol: Chronic stress kills testosterone and blocks DHT conversion. Sleep 7–9 hrs and avoid overtraining.

• Avoid seed oils + soy: Estrogenic and inflammatory. Destroy hormonal balance.



Optional edge-maxing:

• Microdosing tongkat ali, boron, and ashwagandha can support natural testosterone/DHT levels.

• DHT-enhancing grooming routine (minoxidil on jawline, microneedling scalp/jaw) — more for aesthetic sharpness than bone change but still relevant.



2. IGF-1 – The Anabolic Remodeling King



What it does:

• Stimulates bone growth, bone density, and repair

• Crucial for mandible thickening, zygomatic widening, and long-term bone optimization

• Also contributes to skin tightness and lean mass (mog aesthetics)



How to increase IGF-1 naturally:

• High-intensity resistance training (especially fasted + post-fed with protein)

• Adequate calories + protein: IGF-1 is highly nutrient-sensitive. Eat enough to grow.

• Leucine-rich foods (eggs, red meat, whey)

• Deep sleep: IGF-1 spikes during slow-wave sleep. No sleep = no growth.

• Intermittent fasting (strategic use): Boosts growth hormone, which increases IGF-1

• Colostrum or milk: Direct IGF-1 content + triggers natural production

• Low-inflammation diet: Chronic inflammation suppresses GH/IGF-1 axis



3. Final Form Stack (DHT + IGF-1 Combo for Bone Remodeling)



Here’s what a practical daily stack could look like:

• Creatine (5g)

• Zinc (30mg)

• Vitamin D (5000 IU)

• Whey protein (30g post-workout)

• Whole eggs + red meat

• Heavy lifting (3–5x/week)

• Sleep (8+ hours, dark room, no blue light)



Optional:

• Tongkat ali (200–400mg daily)

• Boron (3–10mg daily)

• Ashwagandha (300–600mg daily)

• Colostrum (2–4g daily)



4. Blackpill Reality Check

• If you’re past puberty, don’t expect skull shape transformation — but you can still densify bone, enhance jaw width, improve zygos, and thicken mandible.

• Combine this with mewing, chewing (mastic gum), posturemaxxing, and body fat optimization.

• You’re not changing your blueprint — you’re enhancing the frame you already have to mog potential.



Conclusion:



DHT and IGF-1 are the closest things to a natural bone structure upgrade. If you’re not optimizing these, you’re wasting genetic potential. This is how you go from softboy to mogger. No cope. Just results.



Drop questions or logs below. Will answer.
Or just inject these hormones. This is cope if u think ur body will naturally produce chad hormones.
"Muh just eat normal and sleep good'
 
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stress is good nigger:soy: stress and meth cause aggressive hypothalamic overdrive making the hypothalamus to release tons of LH causing excess test and causes adrenal hyperplasia cause excess adrenal androgen production but it will also rape your skin quality in the face because of high cortisol from the stress but it will go away because the body cant secrete tons of cortisol permanently so it will significantly lower after the body has adapted to the cortisol and cause the adrenals to burnout so then the body will sense very low cortisol causing the pituitary and hypothalamus to overcompensate by massively increasing the androgens in the adrenal cortex making it the adrenals bigger and bigger adrenals=way more androgens so you will get permanent high androgens currently trying this absolute cheat code of a method but no money for meth so im laying a little short with the gains:forcedsmile:
Lost the plot when you said meth
 
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Or just inject these hormones. This is cope if u think ur body will naturally produce chad hormones.
"Muh just eat normal and sleep good'
How much would that cost
 
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Lost the plot when you said meth
i said meth because it causes aggressive hypothalamic signaling/overdrive but in long term usage it will be harmful for DHT and IGF-1 but im not recommending
 

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