How To PCT For Teens/ If You Are Still Growing

[sb23]

Assuming your growth plates are open, a regular pct consisting of a serm will very likely prematurely close your growth plates, and really quickly.

Spoiler: Reason

SERM’s (selective estrogen receptor modulators) selectively agonise the e2 receptors in bone tissue meaning the ossification of the growth plates.

Spoiler: Why SERM’s are used

SERMs are generally needed in PCT to help restore the HPTA (Hypothalamic-Pituitary-Testicular Axis) by stimulating the release of LH (Luteinizing Hormone) and FSH (Follicle-Stimulating Hormone).

I’ve searched for a while now, to find a viable alternative pct protocol and have come to this:
-AC-262: In the long term, this is suppressive to lh and fsh however, in the short term, it can actually increase lh and fsh:

Spoiler: Explanation

-Naloxone/ Naltrexone: This one really surprised me. A medication used to rapidly reverse opioid overdose, works by displacing the opioids, and blocking their effects.

Spoiler: Explanation

-Aromatase Inhibitors: You should always be taking an ai if you are still growing and desire to be taller.

Spoiler: Explanation

No explanation needed

-Icing: ice your nutz brah. (It actually doesn’t seem like that bad an idea).

Spoiler: Source

Trust me bro

Spoiler: Explanation

 

[sb23]

You have been banished to be a lost piece of media which will be seen by no one for all of eternity

 

[Flowix]

Assuming your growth plates are open, a regular pct consisting of a serm will very likely prematurely close your growth plates, and really quickly.

Spoiler: Reason

SERM’s (selective estrogen receptor modulators) selectively agonise the e2 receptors in bone tissue meaning the ossification of the growth plates.

Spoiler: Why SERM’s are used

SERMs are generally needed in PCT to help restore the HPTA (Hypothalamic-Pituitary-Testicular Axis) by stimulating the release of LH (Luteinizing Hormone) and FSH (Follicle-Stimulating Hormone).

I’ve searched for a while now, to find a viable alternative pct protocol and have come to this:
-AC-262: In the long term, this is suppressive to lh and fsh however, in the short term, it can actually increase lh and fsh:

Spoiler: Explanation

-Naloxone/ Naltrexone: This one really surprised me. A medication used to rapidly reverse opioid overdose, works by displacing the opioids, and blocking their effects.

Spoiler: Explanation

-Aromatase Inhibitors: You should always be taking an ai if you are still growing and desire to be taller.

Spoiler: Explanation

No explanation needed

-Icing: ice your nutz brah. (It actually doesn’t seem like that bad an idea).

Spoiler: Source

Trust me bro

Spoiler: Explanation

you have to blast and cruise these aren't gonna work and you will have no test to push you through puberty

 

[sb23]

you have to blast and cruise these aren't gonna work and you will have no test to push you through puberty

I was thinking of doing that, expect I don’t have the money lol. Also I don’t want to become infertile. It would make it extremely difficult to restore my hormones. I’ll consider saving up and blasting, but I think moneymaxx then surgery is best for me.

 

[Flowix]

I was thinking of doing that, expect I don’t have the money lol. Also I don’t want to become infertile. It would make it extremely difficult to restore my hormones. I’ll consider saving up and blasting, but I think moneymaxx then surgery is best for me.

a month worth of test is cheaper than one meal and hcg once every 6 months is also cheap asf

 

[sb23]

a month worth of test is cheaper than one meal and hcg once every 6 months is also cheap asf

Yes but I’m completely broke. I spent like £250 on mk677, letrozole, and a bunch of study drugs as I have exams. I might rob a bank or something I dunno yet.

 

[amnestics]

Tamoxifen does not stunt growth.

The use of tamoxifen to improve height potential in short pubertal boys - PubMed

A retrospective chart review of 7 pubertal boys who were treated with tamoxifen was conducted to determine the effects of this therapy on skeletal maturation and predicted adult height. Tamoxifen significantly decreased the rate of skeletal maturation and increased the predicted adult height...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The effect of tamoxifen on pubertal bone development in adolescents with pubertal gynecomastia - PubMed

During puberty, estrogen has a biphasic effect on epiphyses; at low levels, it leads to an increase in height and bone mass, whereas at high levels, it leads to closure of the epiphysis. Tamoxifen is a selective estrogen receptor modulator that has been used in the treatment of pubertal...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Deleted member 30959]

Nigga u dont take SERMs to heightmaxx, you take aromatase inhibitors which dont need a PCT

 

[LegitUser]

Tamoxifen does not stunt growth.

The use of tamoxifen to improve height potential in short pubertal boys - PubMed

A retrospective chart review of 7 pubertal boys who were treated with tamoxifen was conducted to determine the effects of this therapy on skeletal maturation and predicted adult height. Tamoxifen significantly decreased the rate of skeletal maturation and increased the predicted adult height...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The effect of tamoxifen on pubertal bone development in adolescents with pubertal gynecomastia - PubMed

During puberty, estrogen has a biphasic effect on epiphyses; at low levels, it leads to an increase in height and bone mass, whereas at high levels, it leads to closure of the epiphysis. Tamoxifen is a selective estrogen receptor modulator that has been used in the treatment of pubertal...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

iirc the doses you would use for PCT are enough to close the growth plates.


just take HCG with AI for PCT but tbh you shouldnt be roiding when still growintg anyway

 

[amnestics]

iirc the doses you would use for PCT are enough to close the growth plates.


just take HCG with AI for PCT but tbh you shouldnt be roiding when still growintg anyway

Dosage to treat pubertal gynecomastia is 20 mg daily for six months according to this study:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6372400/

In contrast, dosage for PCT is 10-20mg daily for 6-8 weeks. So you are in fact taking significantly less.
Also, hCG with an AI is not a PCT. HCG suppresses LH and FSH secretion.

 

[sb23]

Nigga u dont take SERMs to heightmaxx, you take aromatase inhibitors which dont need a PCT

I know that. I was talking an alternative pct for a test cycle as serms close growth plates.

 

[normie tiktoker]

Been on 262, my & asin. Wanna throw in rad later but idk about pct

 

[mfk]

fucking stupid thread. none of these are PCT drugs and will not be effective enough to restore your levels to what they need to be.

don’t run a cycle if you can’t PCT, simple.

 

[sb23]

fucking stupid thread. none of these are PCT drugs and will not be effective enough to restore your levels to what they need to be.

don’t run a cycle if you can’t PCT, simple.

Naloxone or naltrexone, whilst untested for pct use, should in theory work. Some of it is speculation of course, but the use of roids whilst you are still growing, can be beneficial for enhanced facial masculisation.

 

[Flowix]

Tamoxifen does not stunt growth.

The use of tamoxifen to improve height potential in short pubertal boys - PubMed

A retrospective chart review of 7 pubertal boys who were treated with tamoxifen was conducted to determine the effects of this therapy on skeletal maturation and predicted adult height. Tamoxifen significantly decreased the rate of skeletal maturation and increased the predicted adult height...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The effect of tamoxifen on pubertal bone development in adolescents with pubertal gynecomastia - PubMed

During puberty, estrogen has a biphasic effect on epiphyses; at low levels, it leads to an increase in height and bone mass, whereas at high levels, it leads to closure of the epiphysis. Tamoxifen is a selective estrogen receptor modulator that has been used in the treatment of pubertal...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

it agonizes estrogen beta receptors leading to RAPID plate closure if you take it you will not grow

 

[sb23]

it agonizes estrogen beta receptors leading to RAPID plate closure if you take it you will not grow

Leo Longevity made a video where he goes over this briefly. Kinda saved me ngl.

 

[Flowix]

Leo Longevity made a video where he goes over this briefly. Kinda saved me ngl.

me too lmao I was this close to ordering clomid and running anavar with ai

 

[Flowix]

Leo Longevity made a video where he goes over this briefly. Kinda saved me ngl.

im so sad he never dropped the hour long height video hes the only ped youtuber that supported height protocols

 

[sb23]

im so sad he never dropped the hour long height video hes the only ped youtuber that supported height protocols

Ye. RIP man

 

[Flowix]

Ye. RIP man

shame

 

[Flowix]

Ye. RIP man

tony huge is a sleezbag

 

[amnestics]

it agonizes estrogen beta receptors leading to RAPID plate closure if you take it you will not grow

If you'd read the studies you'd know that's not true.

 

[Flowix]

If you'd read the studies you'd know that's not true.

then do the novladex

 

[Flowix]

If you'd read the studies you'd know that's not true.

when you take the nolva you will have 1-2 months to grow depending on the dose

 

[amnestics]

when you take the nolva you will have 1-2 months to grow depending on the dose

Yeah sure you're right, let me believe some greycel over clinical studies lmaoo

 

[normie tiktoker]

Real question is do serms close clavicle growth plates… has anyone seen people do PCTs and still grow wider clavicles with roids like mast, test, etc

 

[sb23]

Real question is do serms close clavicle growth plates… has anyone seen people do PCTs and still grow wider clavicles with roids like mast, test, etc

Growth plates contain collagenous tissue. Serms selectively agonise e2 in bone tissue receptors which leads to the eventual ossification of this collagen. This means that it closes all growth plates.

 

[mfk]

it agonizes estrogen beta receptors leading to RAPID plate closure

jfl at this bro science

https://stemcellsjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1634/stemcells.20-3-267

"The drug tamoxifen rescinds this permission by blocking the reception of the estrogen message. Tamoxifen binds to the estrogen receptor but does not activate it fully, halting estrogen-induced growth."

you will not grow

The use of tamoxifen to improve height potential in short pubertal boys - PubMed

A retrospective chart review of 7 pubertal boys who were treated with tamoxifen was conducted to determine the effects of this therapy on skeletal maturation and predicted adult height. Tamoxifen significantly decreased the rate of skeletal maturation and increased the predicted adult height...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"Tamoxifen significantly decreased the rate of skeletal maturation and increased the predicted adult height" (the exact opposite effect of estrogen on skeletal development)




But enjoy shooting narcan up ur nose bud

 

[sb23]

jfl at this bro science

https://stemcellsjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1634/stemcells.20-3-267

"The drug tamoxifen rescinds this permission by blocking the reception of the estrogen message. Tamoxifen binds to the estrogen receptor but does not activate it fully, halting estrogen-induced growth."

The use of tamoxifen to improve height potential in short pubertal boys - PubMed

A retrospective chart review of 7 pubertal boys who were treated with tamoxifen was conducted to determine the effects of this therapy on skeletal maturation and predicted adult height. Tamoxifen significantly decreased the rate of skeletal maturation and increased the predicted adult height...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"Tamoxifen significantly decreased the rate of skeletal maturation and increased the predicted adult height" (the exact opposite effect of estrogen on skeletal development)




But enjoy shooting narcan up ur nose bud

“In bone, it stimulates estrogen receptors instead of blocking them, exerting an estrogenic agonist effect”- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK532905/

 

[Flowix]

jfl at this bro science

https://stemcellsjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1634/stemcells.20-3-267

"The drug tamoxifen rescinds this permission by blocking the reception of the estrogen message. Tamoxifen binds to the estrogen receptor but does not activate it fully, halting estrogen-induced growth."

The use of tamoxifen to improve height potential in short pubertal boys - PubMed

A retrospective chart review of 7 pubertal boys who were treated with tamoxifen was conducted to determine the effects of this therapy on skeletal maturation and predicted adult height. Tamoxifen significantly decreased the rate of skeletal maturation and increased the predicted adult height...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"Tamoxifen significantly decreased the rate of skeletal maturation and increased the predicted adult height" (the exact opposite effect of estrogen on skeletal development)




But enjoy shooting narcan up ur nose bud

then take the novla you won't fucking grow

 

[Flowix]

Yeah sure you're right, let me believe some greycel over clinical studies lmaoo

by all means take it

 

[mfk]

then take the novla you won't fucking grow

your balls won’t grow back shooting narcan

 

[Flowix]

your balls won’t grow back shooting narcan

im not going to do that but if I had to pct id rather use narcan than intentionally close my growth plates