HOW TO STAY LEAN WHILE BULKING ON AAS

[decadouche57]

How to Actually Stay Lean on AAS ​

Here’s what actually works.

1. Stop Eating Like You’re Bulking for the Combine​

This is the #1 reason dudes get fat on gear.

You don’t need some 800+ calorie surplus. That’s natty advice. On cycle your body is already in “build mode,” so the surplus can be tiny.

+150–300 calories is enough.
If you’re gaining more than a pound a week, it’s not “anabolism,” it’s just fat.

Keep carbs clean, keep fats moderate, protein solid. Nothing fancy.

2. Cardio Matters Way More on Gear Than Off​

People sleep on this hard.

Everyone talks about tren improving nutrient partitioning like it’s magic. It helps, sure — but guess what does more for staying lean?

Cardio. Every day. Not HIIT. Not sprints. Just consistent, boring-ass cardio.

Why it works better than half the drugs people abuse:​

• You actually burn calories
• You regulate appetite
• You improve insulin sensitivity in a real way
• Your body starts shuttling nutrients into muscle instead of into fat
• It keeps blood pressure sane
• It keeps your face from blowing up like a water balloon

You can run 400 mg tren and still look soft if you eat like a pig and never get on a treadmill.
You can run 300 mg test and stay lean as hell if you walk 45 minutes a day.

I’ve literally gotten leaner on 30–40 min incline walks than I ever did on “dry compounds.”

3. Test Isn’t What Makes You Fat — Your Lifestyle Is​

Guys love blaming estrogen for everything.
No, you’re just holding water because your sodium is all over the place and you haven’t stepped foot on a StairMaster since high school.

Manage bloat the normal way:

• evenly salted meals
• more water
• daily cardio
• clean carbs
• stop eating huge late-night meals

4. Food Quality > Every Supplement You’ll Buy​

If you’re eating Chipotle, frozen dinners, random fast food, or a bunch of wheat-based junk, you’re gonna look soft no matter what you pin.

Gear makes you a glycogen sponge.
That means clean carbs make you look pumped…
Garbage carbs make you look sloppy.

Stick to:

• rice
• potatoes
• fruit
• oats
• lean meat
• eggs
• whole, simple food

It literally tightens you up in days.

5. Don’t Train Like a Powerlifter on Cycle​

This is where a lot of guys screw up.

They start ego-lifting because they “feel strong,” and their training volume tanks. Then they wonder why they’re getting fatter.

The physique that stays leanest is built through:

• high volume
• controlled rest times
• brutal pump work
• lots of sets
• high workload density

Gear gives you recovery — use it to do more work, not to max out every session.

​

6. Sleep Will Make or Break Your Look​

Bad sleep on gear =

• worse insulin sensitivity
• more water retention
• more cravings
• worse pumps
• higher cortisol

Even 1–2 bad nights make you look softer.

7. Keep the Scale in Check​

The scale is going to jump around from water, sodium, glycogen, whatever. Don’t panic.

Judge by:

• waist
• mirror
• how tight your face looks
• pumps
• vascularity

Not the number.

8. The Real Secret: Discipline Beats Compounds​

If you want to stay lean on AAS, you don’t need tren, primo, mast, none of that.

You need:

• a tiny surplus
• clean carbs
• daily cardio
• consistent training volume
• controlled sodium
• normal sleep
• patience

@Bitchwhipper2 @TitusA @Foreverbrad @Jatt @Tigermoggerlol Anything to add?

 

[DxstZ]

i thought that said ass

like eating ass

 

[decadouche57]

@yussimania @eon @59H390 @5.5psl

 

[TheOsei]

Seems good
will read later

 

[eon]

lean is law

 

[Nutsack2000]

Won’t read but mirin

 

[decadouche57]

Remember if you are on 500+ mgs of AAS, eating high protein, and doing cardio your body is a nutrient partitioning machine. Adding HGH only improves this @chadisbeingmade @SlayerJonas

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

I only got fatter by the end of my cycle listening to the 1k surplus meme.

Sleep is a lot easier said that done. Especially when roiding

 

[decadouche57]

I only got fatter by the end of my cycle listening to the 1k surplus meme.

Sleep is a lot easier said that done. Especially when roiding

Try running 500 test, up your aromasin dosage and add Phosphatidylserine at night for lowering cortisol

 

[59H390]

Mirin gpt

 

[decadouche57]

Mirin gpt

I wrote it you fucking incel

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[decadouche57]

Mirin gpt

Your too high inhib to use AAS get off my thread nattys are below currys

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Try running 500 test, up your aromasin dosage and add Phosphatidylserine at night for lowering cortisol

I got insomnia on 150mgs of test, rad140, 40mg tren.

Only compound that doesnt touch my sleep is deca

I doubt its from estrogen.
Also doing phosphatidylserine rn and it seeems to have worked, but thats also when I hopped off tren

 

[59H390]

I wrote it you fucking incel

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Gear gives you recovery — use it

No humans use the long dash only ai

 

[Recession.]

dnr

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

I got insomnia on 150mgs of test, rad140, 40mg tren.

Only compound that doesnt touch my sleep is deca

I doubt its from estrogen.
Also doing phosphatidylserine rn and it seeems to have worked, but thats also when I hopped off tren

Issue is that deca turns me in to the bloatking so idfk.

Going in for round 2 now with test and EQ

 

[decadouche57]

No humans use to long dash only ai

Another natty on ignore

 

[nsk4ll]

i thought that said ass

like eating ass

not surprised

 

[decadouche57]

I got insomnia on 150mgs of test, rad140, 40mg tren.

Only compound that doesnt touch my sleep is deca

I doubt its from estrogen.
Also doing phosphatidylserine rn and it seeems to have worked, but thats also when I hopped off tren

Its the tren causing it not the test

Stop deca bro its literally the worst AAS

 

[nsk4ll]

How to Actually Stay Lean on AAS ​

Here’s what actually works.

1. Stop Eating Like You’re Bulking for the Combine​

This is the #1 reason dudes get fat on gear.

You don’t need some 800+ calorie surplus. That’s natty advice. On cycle your body is already in “build mode,” so the surplus can be tiny.

+150–300 calories is enough.
If you’re gaining more than a pound a week, it’s not “anabolism,” it’s just fat.

Keep carbs clean, keep fats moderate, protein solid. Nothing fancy.

2. Cardio Matters Way More on Gear Than Off​

People sleep on this hard.

Everyone talks about tren improving nutrient partitioning like it’s magic. It helps, sure — but guess what does more for staying lean?

Cardio. Every day. Not HIIT. Not sprints. Just consistent, boring-ass cardio.

Why it works better than half the drugs people abuse:​

• You actually burn calories
• You regulate appetite
• You improve insulin sensitivity in a real way
• Your body starts shuttling nutrients into muscle instead of into fat
• It keeps blood pressure sane
• It keeps your face from blowing up like a water balloon

You can run 400 mg tren and still look soft if you eat like a pig and never get on a treadmill.
You can run 300 mg test and stay lean as hell if you walk 45 minutes a day.

I’ve literally gotten leaner on 30–40 min incline walks than I ever did on “dry compounds.”

3. Test Isn’t What Makes You Fat — Your Lifestyle Is​

Guys love blaming estrogen for everything.
No, you’re just holding water because your sodium is all over the place and you haven’t stepped foot on a StairMaster since high school.

Manage bloat the normal way:

• evenly salted meals
• more water
• daily cardio
• clean carbs
• stop eating huge late-night meals

4. Food Quality > Every Supplement You’ll Buy​

If you’re eating Chipotle, frozen dinners, random fast food, or a bunch of wheat-based junk, you’re gonna look soft no matter what you pin.

Gear makes you a glycogen sponge.
That means clean carbs make you look pumped…
Garbage carbs make you look sloppy.

Stick to:

• rice
• potatoes
• fruit
• oats
• lean meat
• eggs
• whole, simple food

It literally tightens you up in days.

5. Don’t Train Like a Powerlifter on Cycle​

This is where a lot of guys screw up.

They start ego-lifting because they “feel strong,” and their training volume tanks. Then they wonder why they’re getting fatter.

The physique that stays leanest is built through:

• high volume
• controlled rest times
• brutal pump work
• lots of sets
• high workload density

Gear gives you recovery — use it to do more work, not to max out every session.

​

6. Sleep Will Make or Break Your Look​

Bad sleep on gear =

• worse insulin sensitivity
• more water retention
• more cravings
• worse pumps
• higher cortisol

Even 1–2 bad nights make you look softer.

7. Keep the Scale in Check​

The scale is going to jump around from water, sodium, glycogen, whatever. Don’t panic.

Judge by:

• waist
• mirror
• how tight your face looks
• pumps
• vascularity

Not the number.

8. The Real Secret: Discipline Beats Compounds​

If you want to stay lean on AAS, you don’t need tren, primo, mast, none of that.

You need:

• a tiny surplus
• clean carbs
• daily cardio
• consistent training volume
• controlled sodium
• normal sleep
• patience

@Bitchwhipper2 @TitusA @Foreverbrad @Jatt @Tigermoggerlol Anything to add?

will read later
seems like a good thread

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Its the tren causing it not the test

Hope so. Thats why im going for round two now

Stop deca bro its literally the worst AAS

Im off it rn, but if test starts raping my hair and sleep even with dut theres no stopping the deca dive

 

[llane9]

Sleep is a lot easier said that done. Especially when roiding

yeah, i can't sleep for shit atm on 500 test. tried hydroxyzine, doxylamine, trazadone, all the basic supplemental bullshit like magnesium, melatonin etc and nothings really helped.

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

yeah, i can't sleep for shit atm on 500 test. tried hydroxyzine, doxylamine, trazadone, all the basic supplemental bullshit like magnesium, melatonin etc and nothings really helped.

I hear propanolol, but the only way for me to source it is through fucking indiamart

 

[llane9]

I hear propanolol, but the only way for me to source it is through fucking indiamart

i heard propranolol isn't ideal cus it crosses the blood brain barrier too much, i haven't done much research on it tho. i have some on hand, might look into it later and give it a try.

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

i heard propranolol isn't ideal cus it crosses the blood brain barrier too much, i haven't done much research on it tho. i have some on hand, might look into it later and give it a try.

Thats why its good. Shuts of the adrenergic drive at the source.

Issue is that melatonin gets blunted, but just supplement

 

[ZyzzBrah]

Extremely legit thread, currently doing 30 minute jogs 5 to 7 times per week, its keeping me dry, lean and healthy.

Pretty much spot on regarding food, even "clean" cheat meals like burritos bloat me the fuck up, when I stick to home made potatoes/quinoa and veggies + protein, I look and feel great, I dont get that sluggish bloat.

Also the thing about mindset is important, lots of dudes think "im bulking so i can eat anything I want", and they get fat. Even when im trying to gain, I eat barely above maintenance, and watch what i eat. No need to become a fat fuck on gear.

 

[churmaxxed]

heavy on the discipline good thead op

 

[chinprojectiongod]

I wrote it you fucking incel

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no the fuck you didn’t big dawg

 

[yussimania]

HGH + test

 

[Foreverbrad]

Running a continuous low dose GLP is probably the easiest way to keep surplus in check. Dial in your GLP rather than autistically and unnaturally calorie counting.

As an incel I have very few sources of dopamine and food is probably the least harmful of them compared to the alternatives of alcohol, porn, video games, TikTok, etc (if the last two even work - they give me more cortisol than anything). I struggle a lot with cravings. Unfortunately self fulfilling as long as my body fat is above 10% I will never get girls.

I do 6-8 hours of cardio per week on my bike but it’s still very hard for me to not revert to my default 15-20% body fat without feeling hungry all the time. It was never this bad when I was younger either, I was able to control my weight very easily in my 20s.

It’s possibly more to do with high-cortisol wageslave incel lifestyle making me need food copes now compared to in my 20s when I was a NEET and somewhat of a slayer.

 

[decadouche57]

Running a continuous low dose GLP is probably the easiest way to keep surplus in check. Dial in your GLP rather than autistically and unnaturally calorie counting.

As an incel I have very few sources of dopamine and food is probably the least harmful of them compared to the alternatives of alcohol, porn, video games, TikTok, etc (if the last two even work - they give me more cortisol than anything). I struggle a lot with cravings. Unfortunately self fulfilling as long as my body fat is above 10% I will never get girls.

I do 6-8 hours of cardio per week on my bike but it’s still very hard for me to not revert to my default 15-20% body fat without feeling hungry all the time. It was never this bad when I was younger either, I was able to control my weight very easily in my 20s.

It’s possibly more to do with high-cortisol wageslave incel lifestyle making me need food copes now compared to in my 20s when I was a NEET and somewhat of a slayer.

But wouldn’t that increase tolerance if you run it all the time? I thought better to just bulk and then cut with reta

Yeah it’s your wageslaving and living at home that’s making you low dopamine I mean you already slayed before more than most guys

I’m similar rn I’m recovering from surgery so I have such few dopamine sources

I like using nicotine pouches for this reason only 2 a day and low dose

I smoke weed maybe a few times a week at night

I totally agree with you though when your not dating food becomes a huge dopamine source

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

How to Actually Stay Lean on AAS ​

Here’s what actually works.

1. Stop Eating Like You’re Bulking for the Combine​

This is the #1 reason dudes get fat on gear.

You don’t need some 800+ calorie surplus. That’s natty advice. On cycle your body is already in “build mode,” so the surplus can be tiny.

+150–300 calories is enough.
If you’re gaining more than a pound a week, it’s not “anabolism,” it’s just fat.

Keep carbs clean, keep fats moderate, protein solid. Nothing fancy.

2. Cardio Matters Way More on Gear Than Off​

People sleep on this hard.

Everyone talks about tren improving nutrient partitioning like it’s magic. It helps, sure — but guess what does more for staying lean?

Cardio. Every day. Not HIIT. Not sprints. Just consistent, boring-ass cardio.

Why it works better than half the drugs people abuse:​

• You actually burn calories
• You regulate appetite
• You improve insulin sensitivity in a real way
• Your body starts shuttling nutrients into muscle instead of into fat
• It keeps blood pressure sane
• It keeps your face from blowing up like a water balloon

You can run 400 mg tren and still look soft if you eat like a pig and never get on a treadmill.
You can run 300 mg test and stay lean as hell if you walk 45 minutes a day.

I’ve literally gotten leaner on 30–40 min incline walks than I ever did on “dry compounds.”

3. Test Isn’t What Makes You Fat — Your Lifestyle Is​

Guys love blaming estrogen for everything.
No, you’re just holding water because your sodium is all over the place and you haven’t stepped foot on a StairMaster since high school.

Manage bloat the normal way:

• evenly salted meals
• more water
• daily cardio
• clean carbs
• stop eating huge late-night meals

4. Food Quality > Every Supplement You’ll Buy​

If you’re eating Chipotle, frozen dinners, random fast food, or a bunch of wheat-based junk, you’re gonna look soft no matter what you pin.

Gear makes you a glycogen sponge.
That means clean carbs make you look pumped…
Garbage carbs make you look sloppy.

Stick to:

• rice
• potatoes
• fruit
• oats
• lean meat
• eggs
• whole, simple food

It literally tightens you up in days.

5. Don’t Train Like a Powerlifter on Cycle​

This is where a lot of guys screw up.

They start ego-lifting because they “feel strong,” and their training volume tanks. Then they wonder why they’re getting fatter.

The physique that stays leanest is built through:

• high volume
• controlled rest times
• brutal pump work
• lots of sets
• high workload density

Gear gives you recovery — use it to do more work, not to max out every session.

​

6. Sleep Will Make or Break Your Look​

Bad sleep on gear =

• worse insulin sensitivity
• more water retention
• more cravings
• worse pumps
• higher cortisol

Even 1–2 bad nights make you look softer.

7. Keep the Scale in Check​

The scale is going to jump around from water, sodium, glycogen, whatever. Don’t panic.

Judge by:

• waist
• mirror
• how tight your face looks
• pumps
• vascularity

Not the number.

8. The Real Secret: Discipline Beats Compounds​

If you want to stay lean on AAS, you don’t need tren, primo, mast, none of that.

You need:

• a tiny surplus
• clean carbs
• daily cardio
• consistent training volume
• controlled sodium
• normal sleep
• patience

@Bitchwhipper2 @TitusA @Foreverbrad @Jatt @Tigermoggerlol Anything to add?

Perfect

 

[RealNinja]

Legit thread, Thanks for posting. I’ve been on gear for 5 weeks and all of this information has proven itself to be 100% true

 

[RealNinja]

@decadouche57 what do you think about artificial sweeteners? These are kind of essential in my diet if I want to actually eat clean and control my calorie intake. I eat all of my meats with sugar free sauce and use stevia to sweeten nonfat Greek yogurt (which I eat a lot of.) if you do consistent cardio and keep the food sources clean, can you keep the artificial sweeteners ?

 

[decadouche57]

@decadouche57 what do you think about artificial sweeteners? These are kind of essential in my diet if I want to actually eat clean and control my calorie intake. I eat all of my meats with sugar free sauce and use stevia to sweeten nonfat Greek yogurt (which I eat a lot of.) if you do consistent cardio and keep the food sources clean, can you keep the artificial sweeteners ?

They are totally fine