How to talk to a surgeon about bimax + genio for strong “Chad-like” facial results?

[aziz96]

Hi everyone,
I’m considering bimax jaw surgery mainly for aesthetic reasons (facial balance, stronger jawline, better midface projection), not only for bite or breathing issues.


I want to ask people who have experience or knowledge:

1. How should I clearly communicate my goals to the surgeon?
   I’m aiming for a strong, masculine facial structure (good forward projection, defined jawline, balanced profile).
   • What terms or concepts should I use so the surgeon understands exactly what I want?
   • Is it okay to bring reference photos or talk about facial archetypes (for example “strong male model / Chad-like proportions”)?
2. What planning aspects are crucial for aesthetics in bimax?
   • Maxilla advancement vs impaction
   • Mandible advancement / rotation
   • Occlusal plane changes
   • Chin projection (with or without genioplasty)
3. What are red flags that indicate a bad or unsuitable surgeon?
   • Dismissing aesthetic concerns
   • Only focusing on bite and saying “aesthetics will be fine”
   • Not showing simulations or past cases
   • Avoiding detailed explanations
4. What questions should I ask during consultations to make sure the surgeon is capable of delivering strong aesthetic results?

Any advice, personal experiences, or examples of good vs bad consultations would be really appreciated.

 

[Foreverbrad]

Bimax isn’t a chad making surgery. Only for actual recessedcels. Do not see it as a solution looking for a problem.

 

[Aqualad]

Bimax is more of a prerequisite surgery rather than something that makes you good looking imo. Ofc you will look a lot better but nobody becomes chad through bimax

Fillers and implants are what’s going to make you more Chadlike cause that’s kinda what they’re made for. Every ascension I’ve seen is from fillers like @Cheat_Win

 

[HumanTitanium]

Bimax is more of a prerequisite surgery rather than something that makes you good looking imo. Ofc you will look a lot better but nobody becomes chad through bimax

Fillers and implants are what’s going to make you more Chadlike cause that’s kinda what they’re made for. Every ascension I’ve seen is from fillers like @Cheat_Win

Agreed - I'd say bimax is almost like building a base for some of the extra stuff like fillers and implants. But in most cases bimax will give harmonious and natural appearance. I wish more people who got bimax were actually lean

 

[aziz96]

Bimax isn’t a chad making surgery. Only for actual recessedcels. Do not see it as a solution looking for a problem.

Bimax is more of a prerequisite surgery rather than something that makes you good looking imo. Ofc you will look a lot better but nobody becomes chad through bimax

Fillers and implants are what’s going to make you more Chadlike cause that’s kinda what they’re made for. Every ascension I’ve seen is from fillers like @Cheat_Win

Agreed - I'd say bimax is almost like building a base for some of the extra stuff like fillers and implants. But in most cases bimax will give harmonious and natural appearance. I wish more people who got bimax were actually lean

I get your point and I agree that bimax alone doesn’t automatically make someone a chad


Just to clarify, I’m planning to use HA fillers after bimax


There are many real cases where bimax noticeably improves the jawline and profile, sometimes to the point where the person looks almost like a different individual. That’s wh


I’ll post some exa andI will show you good effects and effects that are not enough


Good results:

 

[aziz96]

I get your point and I agree that bimax alone doesn’t automatically make someone a chad


Just to clarify, I’m planning to use HA fillers after bimax


There are many real cases where bimax noticeably improves the jawline and profile, sometimes to the point where the person looks almost like a different individual. That’s wh


I’ll post some exa andI will show you good effects and effects that are not enough


Good results:

View attachment 4548573View attachment 4548575View attachment 4548576


View attachment 4548562View attachment 4548563

and here I will show you what is a poor result would be disappointing for me because I don't want to pay a lot of money to have the effect practically the same as before:

How do I explain this to the doctor? Maybe I should just show them the photos? I have appointments with three face surgeons and I want to hear what each of them thinks.

 

[nishka]

and here I will show you what is a poor result would be disappointing for me because I don't want to pay a lot of money to have the effect practically the same as before:

View attachment 4548580

How do I explain this to the doctor? Maybe I should just show them the photos? I have appointments with three face surgeons and I want to hear what each of them thinks.

you just gotta think about what kind of movements you want
just learn up on le forte 1 movements, downgrafting, CCW etc and BSSO movements and then try to make an educated guess of what will be good for you and then obviously ask the surgeon. i think you sharing pictures will be good but i think the worst thing is you going just make me chad and then they have no idea what to do. in a way its almost like getting a hair cut lmao i showed my surgeon good pictures of side profiles i like