How to talk to a surgeon about bimax + genio for strong “Chad-like” facial results?

[aziz96]

Hi everyone,
I’m considering bimax jaw surgery mainly for aesthetic reasons (facial balance, stronger jawline, better midface projection), not only for bite or breathing issues.


I want to ask people who have experience or knowledge:

1. How should I clearly communicate my goals to the surgeon?
   I’m aiming for a strong, masculine facial structure (good forward projection, defined jawline, balanced profile).
   • What terms or concepts should I use so the surgeon understands exactly what I want?
   • Is it okay to bring reference photos or talk about facial archetypes (for example “strong male model / Chad-like proportions”)?
2. What planning aspects are crucial for aesthetics in bimax?
   • Maxilla advancement vs impaction
   • Mandible advancement / rotation
   • Occlusal plane changes
   • Chin projection (with or without genioplasty)
3. What are red flags that indicate a bad or unsuitable surgeon?
   • Dismissing aesthetic concerns
   • Only focusing on bite and saying “aesthetics will be fine”
   • Not showing simulations or past cases
   • Avoiding detailed explanations
4. What questions should I ask during consultations to make sure the surgeon is capable of delivering strong aesthetic results?

Any advice, personal experiences, or examples of good vs bad consultations would be really appreciated.

 

[Foreverbrad]

Bimax isn’t a chad making surgery. Only for actual recessedcels. Do not see it as a solution looking for a problem.

 

[Aqualad]

Bimax is more of a prerequisite surgery rather than something that makes you good looking imo. Ofc you will look a lot better but nobody becomes chad through bimax

Fillers and implants are what’s going to make you more Chadlike cause that’s kinda what they’re made for. Every ascension I’ve seen is from fillers like @Cheat_Win

 

[HumanTitanium]

Bimax is more of a prerequisite surgery rather than something that makes you good looking imo. Ofc you will look a lot better but nobody becomes chad through bimax

Fillers and implants are what’s going to make you more Chadlike cause that’s kinda what they’re made for. Every ascension I’ve seen is from fillers like @Cheat_Win

Agreed - I'd say bimax is almost like building a base for some of the extra stuff like fillers and implants. But in most cases bimax will give harmonious and natural appearance. I wish more people who got bimax were actually lean

 

[aziz96]

Bimax isn’t a chad making surgery. Only for actual recessedcels. Do not see it as a solution looking for a problem.

Bimax is more of a prerequisite surgery rather than something that makes you good looking imo. Ofc you will look a lot better but nobody becomes chad through bimax

Fillers and implants are what’s going to make you more Chadlike cause that’s kinda what they’re made for. Every ascension I’ve seen is from fillers like @Cheat_Win

Agreed - I'd say bimax is almost like building a base for some of the extra stuff like fillers and implants. But in most cases bimax will give harmonious and natural appearance. I wish more people who got bimax were actually lean

I get your point and I agree that bimax alone doesn’t automatically make someone a chad


Just to clarify, I’m planning to use HA fillers after bimax


There are many real cases where bimax noticeably improves the jawline and profile, sometimes to the point where the person looks almost like a different individual. That’s wh


I’ll post some exa andI will show you good effects and effects that are not enough


Good results:

 

[aziz96]

I get your point and I agree that bimax alone doesn’t automatically make someone a chad


Just to clarify, I’m planning to use HA fillers after bimax


There are many real cases where bimax noticeably improves the jawline and profile, sometimes to the point where the person looks almost like a different individual. That’s wh


I’ll post some exa andI will show you good effects and effects that are not enough


Good results:

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and here I will show you what is a poor result would be disappointing for me because I don't want to pay a lot of money to have the effect practically the same as before:

How do I explain this to the doctor? Maybe I should just show them the photos? I have appointments with three face surgeons and I want to hear what each of them thinks.

 

[nishka]

and here I will show you what is a poor result would be disappointing for me because I don't want to pay a lot of money to have the effect practically the same as before:

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How do I explain this to the doctor? Maybe I should just show them the photos? I have appointments with three face surgeons and I want to hear what each of them thinks.

you just gotta think about what kind of movements you want
just learn up on le forte 1 movements, downgrafting, CCW etc and BSSO movements and then try to make an educated guess of what will be good for you and then obviously ask the surgeon. i think you sharing pictures will be good but i think the worst thing is you going just make me chad and then they have no idea what to do. in a way its almost like getting a hair cut lmao i showed my surgeon good pictures of side profiles i like

 

[Aqualad]

I get your point and I agree that bimax alone doesn’t automatically make someone a chad


Just to clarify, I’m planning to use HA fillers after bimax


There are many real cases where bimax noticeably improves the jawline and profile, sometimes to the point where the person looks almost like a different individual. That’s wh


I’ll post some exa andI will show you good effects and effects that are not enough


Good results:

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if you’re as recessed as those in these photos it’s 100% necessary to get bimax first I wasn’t trying to sway you away from it

Personally I got bimax for aesthetic reasons, In consultations it’s important to set your ego aside and be as honest as possible. I told the multiple surgeons I consulted with that I wanted to look as angular as possible and even showed photos of facial structures I was trying to imitate. They probably thought I was really autistic and It was somewhat embarrassing but I think it’s part of the reason I got a satisfactory result

As for whether the surgeon is qualified just look at their results and personality ig . I just went for the safest option ramieri

 

[tyler1234]

What surgeons u consulting

 

[Aqualad]

That's how it looks, it's bad. I also have poor posture. The back of my head also has a strange, egg-shaped shape, and even the hair on the sides looks sparse. I think it's poor blood flow. I should add that I used to have pectus excavatum and had surgery at 18; I'm now 28.

what do you think about it?



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Bimax and grow your hair out

I looked a lot worse than you before surgery lol you don’t know what a bad base is

 

[Doctor Egor]

Youre simply afraid of getting underadvanced
If youre not getting a bimax covered by insurance (theyll most likely put you with a local no name surgeon) then do the casual thing, going with the big italian names. They won't underadvance bad.

 

[aziz96]

Youre simply afraid of getting underadvanced
If youre not getting a bimax covered by insurance (theyll most likely put you with a local no name surgeon) then do the casual thing, going with the big italian names. They won't underadvance bad.

But I want to do Bimax without insurance, I'm not interested in waiting 2 years for the surgery, I want to pay and say that I'm paying, so I want a specific result.

 

[Doctor Egor]

But I want to do Bimax without insurance, I'm not interested in waiting 2 years for the surgery, I want to pay and say that I'm paying, so I want a specific result.

Then you go with the big names... How many SFS cases theyve done is irrelevant, the movements for SFS aren't underground knowledge so...

 

[Firstname.Lastname]

I get your point and I agree that bimax alone doesn’t automatically make someone a chad


Just to clarify, I’m planning to use HA fillers after bimax


There are many real cases where bimax noticeably improves the jawline and profile, sometimes to the point where the person looks almost like a different individual. That’s wh


I’ll post some exa andI will show you good effects and effects that are not enough


Good results:

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Crazy how all these have dramatically improved gonial angles. Almost like the pictures are fake and gay.

 

[goysl0p]

Bimax and grow your hair out

I looked a lot worse than you before surgery lol you don’t know what a bad base is

Did you actually get any surgeries done or just fillers

 

[Aqualad]

Did you actually get any surgeries done or just fillers

BSSO genio and fillers

 

[.dunkbro]

BSSO genio and fillers

is bimax a dangerous procedure? what age do u recommend it? also if someone has a dorsal hump should they just get rhino first if they dont want to do such an invasive surgery? what are ur thoughts

 

[Aqualad]

is bimax a dangerous procedure? what age do u recommend it? also if someone has a dorsal hump should they just get rhino first if they dont want to do such an invasive surgery? what are ur thoughts

It’s not dangerous at all if you’re referring to dying or getting deformed, surgeons perform it globally every day. The recovery is a pain in the ass ofc

Age doesn’t matter get it as soon as you can I got it at 19

if your dorsal hump is worse than your jaw recession then sure. It’s up to you to decide. But a recessed jaw will always harm you more aesthetically than a dorsal hump. Having a big nose is generally attractive to women anyway if ur jaw is good I think, at least that’s what they say on tiktok

If your jaw is not bimax recessed tier bad just get filler

 

[.dunkbro]

It’s not dangerous at all if you’re referring to dying or getting deformed, surgeons perform it globally every day. The recovery is a pain in the ass ofc

Age doesn’t matter get it as soon as you can I got it at 19

if your dorsal hump is worse than your jaw recession then sure. It’s up to you to decide. But a recessed jaw will always harm you more aesthetically than a dorsal hump. Having a big nose is generally attractive to women anyway if ur jaw is good I think, at least that’s what they say on tiktok

If your jaw is not bimax recessed tier bad just get filler

can I show u my case? and u tell me

 

[Aqualad]

can I show u my case? and u tell me

Sure

 

[.dunkbro]

Sure

I sent it to u

 

[lurking truecel]

Hello, i want to be chad, advance me to Agatha dear surgeon.

Thanks surgeon

 

[goysl0p]

BSSO genio and fillers

So essentially only lower jaw surgery?

 

[Prøphet]

Hello, i want to be chad, advance me to Agatha dear surgeon.

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Thanks surgeon

Holy fuck

 

[LEFORT17]

Hello, i want to be chad, advance me to Agatha dear surgeon.

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Thanks surgeon

i chated with him on reddit. this guy going through pain

 

[HumanTitanium]

i chated with him on reddit. this guy going through pain

I feel so bad for that guy - his whole case seems crazy based on what i saw on reddit

 

[iamgoingtoascend]

I feel so bad for that guy - his whole case seems crazy based on what i saw on reddit

how tf did that even happen?

did he protest and ask for a shit ton of advancement because hes mentally ill and the surgeon just goes "yeah sure man" and projects his jaw all the way to fucking mars and beyond??? Or did the surgeon just botch him

He doesnt even look like a candidate judging from the before picture. Bro doesnt even look recessed

 

[trenbolone8883]

Agreed - I'd say bimax is almost like building a base for some of the extra stuff like fillers and implants. But in most cases bimax will give harmonious and natural appearance. I wish more people who got bimax were actually lean

im lean i will get it read my post if u want

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

Bimax isn’t a chad making surgery. Only for actual recessedcels. Do not see it as a solution looking for a problem.

It ascends sfscels like me tho