How to tell if im good looking

[troy_exe]

i used to have so much hope for my future but it just slowly got broken and destroyed and it was completely depressing

yeah but understand that ur future is on you.
its in ur hands what kinda life you live

 

[bibodude]

wow i didnt even read this before i replied, im sorry man i was literally right on the money

yeah i guess he hasnt experienced this before, thats fine if he cant understand

 

[Death_Stalker]

i need a way now to tell how if im good looking, i dont want to continue living this life if im not

If you go out and see women staring at you constantly some glances or eye contact that's when you know your attractive you just gotta do the first move I genuinely think that when women tend to look at you a lot outside they're attracted to you because I for example would never look at a man I don't find attractive (speaking if I was a woman)

 

[bibodude]

yeah but understand that ur future is on you.
its in ur hands what kinda life you live

yeah thats why im making one last full effort to do everything i can

 

[troy_exe]

true but you dont have dreams and aspirations as well? now imagine years and years of watching those aspirations fade, you gonna be a jolly lad? hell nah

yeah but understand that ur future is on you.
its in ur hands what kinda life you live

if i wouldnt work for my goals then i couldnt be sad about not reaching them
idk what to tell u. u get what u deserve, nothing more nothing less
and im not saying that to be mean or to make him feel bad, but thats just how reality is

 

[bibodude]

if i wouldnt work for my goals then i couldnt be sad about not reaching them
idk what to tell u. u get what u deserve, nothing more nothing less
and im not saying that to be mean or to make him feel bad, but thats just how reality is

i literally told you i am beginning to work for my goals, ive already started improving myself in a few ways as ive listed.
i just dont want false hope

 

[troy_exe]

yeah i guess he hasnt experienced this before, thats fine if he cant understand

what i have experienced is that i worked for what i am and what i have

 

[IzDrizSub5]

yeah i guess he hasnt experienced this before, thats fine if he cant understand

trust me man i know how you feel


only 10 months ago friend,

so much had changed, and yes i cant help but remember the trauma i felt everyday, simply walking down the street, invisible, overlooked, pushed aside

i believe in you, would you like to see my recents for hopefuel?

 

[MemorableMoron]

If you go out and see women staring at you constantly some glances or eye contact that's when you know your attractive you just gotta do the first move I genuinely think that when women tend to look at you a lot outside they're attracted to you because I for example would never look at a man I don't find attractive (speaking if I was a woman)

Ye if ur attractive to very attractive you will get this. If ur chad you will get less ios like this and instead you will just make all of them in your proximity really self conscious and anxious. So unless your chad its quite obvious.

 

[troy_exe]

i literally told you i am beginning to work for my goals, ive already started improving myself in a few ways as ive listed.
i just dont want false hope

alr then go for it
i rly only want whats best for you too, but u cant be whining about false hopes and shit.
just do what you can do and be happy abt the results. thats all

 

[bibodude]

what i have experienced is that i worked for what i am and what i have

it doesnt always work like that, you cant always work for something, even if you work very hard you might never get to your goal no matter how hard you work

and im extremely disadvantaged at just how i was born, how is it fair that i have to work infinitely harder than someone else to get what i wanjt

 

[IzDrizSub5]

if i wouldnt work for my goals then i couldnt be sad about not reaching them
idk what to tell u. u get what u deserve, nothing more nothing less
and im not saying that to be mean or to make him feel bad, but thats just how reality is

i understand because i did the same thing, but im telling you he is in a very different position than we were

im assuming your 16-19?

 

[Vincent Freeman]

i havent because i rarely go outside

we can tell

 

[IzDrizSub5]

we can tell

that u in the pfp?

 

[bibodude]

trust me man i know how you feel


only 10 months ago friend,
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so much had changed, and yes i cant help but remember the trauma i felt everyday, simply walking down the street, invisible, overlooked, pushed aside

i believe in you, would you like to see my recents for hopefuel?

i have just enough hope at this moment to keep going

atleast you can understand what im going through it makes me feel a little better

 

[Vincent Freeman]

that u in the pfp?

not the sharpest are u lad

 

[troy_exe]

it doesnt always work like that, you cant always work for something, even if you work very hard you might never get to your goal no matter how hard you work

only if ur too delsuional. which i think everyone knows u shouldnt be

and im extremely disadvantaged at just how i was born, how is it fair that i have to work infinitely harder than someone else to get what i wanjt

you couldhave been born retarded or with a disability
your "disadvantages" only exist in ur head.

not having a job or school and not goig out or going to the gym, thats all on you and not ur genetics

 

[troy_exe]

i understand because i did the same thing, but im telling you he is in a very different position than we were

im assuming your 16-19?

yeah im 19

 

[IzDrizSub5]

i have just enough hope at this moment to keep going

atleast you can understand what im going through it makes me feel a little better

great friend, you got this man i promise

if your interested in knowing what i did and what helped the most, please reach out

 

[Death_Stalker]

Ye if ur attractive to very attractive you will get this. If ur chad you will get less ios like this and instead you will just make all of them in your proximity really self conscious and anxious. So unless your chad its quite obvious.

I just shared my experience tbh cuz everytime I go out women stare at me and from a woman's perspective it also makes sense that you would only eye fuck someone your attracted to

 

[IzDrizSub5]

yeah im 19

right, your face was developing same as mine throughout our process, and will continue to until 22, for him? hes starting with a fully developed face, with no room for new growth, or any huge change without surgical intervention

we have it easy compared to him

 

[bibodude]

great friend, you got this man i promise

if your interested in knowing what i did and what helped the most, please reach out

yeah ill reach out if i need help

i havent given up yet ill keep going, thanks for not being rude to me

 

[bibodude]

I just shared my experience tbh cuz everytime I go out women stare at me and from a woman's perspective it also makes sense that you would only eye fuck someone your attracted to

its hard for me to tell based on that beause i dont go out much and im very ND so i dont make eye contact with people

 

[troy_exe]

right, your face was developing same as mine throughout our process, and will continue to until 22, for him? hes starting with a fully developed face, with no room for new growth, or any huge change without surgical intervention

we have it easy compared to him

bro im not trying to be mean or anything to him trust me
and yeah i do have it genetically easier than him etc

but if ur 25 and havent done anything with ur life yet thats on him and only on him
there is no room for excuses like "im born disadvantageous"

 

[MemorableMoron]

You do realise you are your genetics. You were not unlucky comapared to others. You are just worse. Are you unlucky you are slower than bolt and weaker than Eddie hall? No you are the product of inferior genetics. You do realise you only exist as yourself. You talk like you randomly possessed a body.

yeah ill reach out if i need help

i havent given up yet ill keep going, thanks for not being rude to me

only if ur too delsuional. which i think everyone knows u shouldnt be


you couldhave been born retarded or with a disability
your "disadvantages" only exist in ur head.

not having a job or school and not goig out or going to the gym, thats all on you and not ur genetics

 

[IzDrizSub5]

yeah ill reach out if i need help

i havent given up yet ill keep going, thanks for not being rude to me

those who are rude are reflecting the way they feel about themselves, kindness and respect to others is subconsciously being registered, and you KNOW your a good person once that happens, stay safe

 

[troy_exe]

You do realise you are your genetics. You were not unlucky comapared to others. You are just worse. Are you unlucky you are slower than bolt and weaker than Eddie hall? No you are the product of inferior genetics. You do realise you only exist as yourself. You talk like you randomly possessed a body.

bruh i never said genetics dont matter bozo

if ur 25 and havent done anything with ur life yet thats on him and only on him
there is no room for excuses like "im born disadvantageous"

 

[IzDrizSub5]

bro im not trying to be mean or anything to him trust me
and yeah i do have it genetically easier than him etc

but if ur 25 and havent done anything with ur life yet thats on him and only on him
there is no room for excuses like "im born disadvantageous"

who knows how long hes known about looksmaxxing, we cant assume he was just rotting doing nothing, he was probably just trying to live his life man

and ik u not trying to be mean dw, im just saying you could be more sympathetic to his position

 

[MemorableMoron]

bruh i never said genetics dont matter bozo

I never said you did say that. I said you talk like everyone is randomly assigned their genetics at birth. Like no you are your gentics. Their is no luck. The only luck is that you were born instead of your sibling

 

[try2beme]

If u genuinely can’t tell almost definitely ugly

 

[troy_exe]

I never said you did say that. I said you talk like everyone is randomly assigned their genetics at birth. Like no you are your gentics. Their is no luck. The only luck is that you were born instead of your sibling

yeah but then theres also what u do with ur genetics. which is my whole point

you cant whine around with "ohh im at such a genetic disadvantage" if u havent done shit in your life yet.
lik yes ik hes at a disadvantage. i mean im 193 so a lot are compared to me in terms of height. but deos that mean that every1 whos not as tall as me should throw his life away and whine around all day ?

 

[MemorableMoron]

yeah but then theres also what u do with ur genetics. which is my whole point

you cant whine around with "ohh im at such a genetic disadvantage" if u havent done shit in your life yet.
lik yes ik hes at a disadvantage. i mean im 193 so a lot are compared to me in terms of height. but deos that mean that every1 whos not as tall as me should throw his life away and whine around all day ?

You are misunderstanding. My point is exactly that there is no space or room to ever appreciate or complain about your genetics..as that is literally all you are and ever will be. A version of you who is 2 iq points higher or 4 inches taller.. ect can never be you as thats not your genetics. He may of been your twin or sibling but not you.
Its a cancerous mentality that eliminates all sense of self.

 

[troy_exe]

and ik u not trying to be mean dw, im just saying you could be more sympathetic to his position

and ik u not trying to be mean dw, im just saying you could be more sympathetic to his position

yeah maybe ur right
but he said his parents are so wealthy that he doesnt need to have a job or go to school (he doesnt)
and as sb who came from shit and wageslaved his ass off to be at uni stuff like that is just enrageing

he thinks hes at such a disadvantage even tho hes not. yk
and that pmo

who knows how long hes known about looksmaxxing, we cant assume he was just rotting doing nothing, he was probably just trying to live his life man

yeah but you dont need to know abt lm to hit the gym for instance

 

[troy_exe]

You are misunderstanding. My point is exactly that there is no space or room to ever appreciate or complain about your genetics..as that is literally all you are and ever will be. A version of you who is 2 iq points higher or 4 inches taller.. ect can never be you as thats not your genetics. He may of been your twin or sibling but not you.
Its a cancerous mentality that eliminates all sense of self.

ur speaking of genetic determinism which is dissproven, im sorry. you are more than just ur genetics.
you have a max genetic potential, which u can reach. but how far u get to that is on you.

that is literally all you are and ever will be

that is ur mistake. you can change a lot.
and even if u ended up with short genetics, even then u can get LL

 

[MemorableMoron]

ur speaking of genetic determinism which is dissproven, im sorry. you are more than just ur genetics.
you have a max genetic potential, which u can reach. but how far u get to that is on you.



that is ur mistake. you can change a lot.
and even if u ended up with short genetics, even then u can get LL

Your stupid. You can change yourself but you cant change your genetics..not appreciating that you are your genetics is stupid. Will you say your kids are unlucky aswell when they have all your fallios? Do you resent your parents?

 

[IzDrizSub5]

yeah maybe ur right
but he said his parents are so wealthy that he doesnt need to have a job or go to school (he doesnt)
and as sb who came from shit and wageslaved his ass off to be at uni stuff like that is just enrageing

he thinks hes at such a disadvantage even tho hes not. yk
and that pmo



yeah but you dont need to know abt lm to hit the gym for instance

all true, his position COULD have been avoided, you are right

unfortunately, it wasn’t, theres nothing he can do about that now, so its up to us to either give him motivation to maximize his potential, or bring him down and give him more reason to end his life

as a man whose been through, im assuming, the wrong side looks, you should know just how difficult things are for his daily life, not to mention thats just physical appearance, hes also nd which is almost a worse nerf, socialization is a crucial aspect of life and it seems he cant even walk outside without selfconciousness

 

[IzDrizSub5]

not the sharpest are u lad

your hideous, find a hole to crawl into a die there so no one has to see your disgusting face

 

[troy_exe]

You can change yourself but you cant change your genetics

i never said otherwise
i was talking abt reaching ur genetic potential

.not appreciating that you are your genetics is stupid

well again. u are not exacely ur genetics
you are a version of yourself somewhere on the spectrum of ur genetic potential.

Do you resent your parents?

i got "good genetics" to say it in ur language, which would be wrong.
ud have to say "i fulfilled the genetic potential that was given to me pretty good"

let me give u an example.
my dad is 185. i ended up 193. i even have a worse genetic max potential in my height than he has, cus he comes from a overall tall family bt my moms family is short af.
but cus he fed me properly, i fulfilled my genetic potential better than him

 

[MemorableMoron]

You are mistaking your parents luck for your own. Your parents would be lucky you if were to be born with good genetics and unlucky if bad. But you are simply luck to be born. Any different combination is no longer you. Thats your sibling that took your place

i never said otherwise
i was talking abt reaching ur genetic potential


well again. u are not exacely ur genetics
you are a version of yourself somewhere on the spectrum of ur genetic potential.


i got "good genetics" to say it in ur language, which would be wrong.
ud have to say "i fulfilled the genetic potential that was given to me pretty good"

let me give u an example.
my dad is 185. i ended up 193. i even have a worse genetic max potential in my height than he has, cus he comes from a overall tall family bt my moms family is short af.
but cus he fed me properly, i fulfilled my genetic potential better than him

 

[troy_exe]

unfortunately, it wasn’t, theres nothing he can do about that now, so its up to us to either give him motivation to maximize his potential, or bring him down and give him more reason to end his life

i agree, but that doesnt mean we should let him whine around

as a man whose been through, im assuming, the wrong side looks, you should know just how difficult things are for his daily life, not to mention thats just physical appearance, hes also nd which is almost a worse nerf, socialization is a crucial aspect of life and it seems he cant even walk outside without selfconciousness

i mean i have to say i cant relate too much. and thats why i prob dont sound very blackpilled and relate with all that "genetic determinism bs"
but honestly u cant tell me that ur 25 and cant get ur shit together man, im so sorry but knowing that his familiy is wealthy and then complaining much is just a bitch move

 

[troy_exe]

You are mistaking your parents luck for your own. Your parents would be lucky you if were to be born with good genetics and unlucky if bad. But you are simply luck to be born. Any different combination is no longer you. Thats your sibling that took your place

hmm how do u mean that?

Any different combination is no longer you

cus lets say id have stayed up all night growing up and only eat junk foord, then i wouldhave neded up shorter and prob uglier

but that wouldhave still been the same me, with the same genetics, just with a dofferent expression of these genetics
or am i onto nothing lol?

 

[MemorableMoron]

hmm how do u mean that?


cus lets say id have stayed up all night growing up and only eat junk foord, then i wouldhave neded up shorter and prob uglier

but that wouldhave still been the same me, with the same genetics, just with a dofferent expression of these genetics
or am i onto nothing lol?

The difference is small. And obviously not the thing you actually talk about and mean. When he says I have terrible genetics im so unlucky.. he doesnt mean I got bad development. As he woukd say that.

 

[troy_exe]

The difference is small. And obviously not the thing you actually talk about and mean. When he says I have terrible genetics im so unlucky.. he doesnt mean I got bad development. As he woukd say that.

alr

but my whole point is that hes complaining abt his looks while being 25 and not having done shit in his life so far
u dont need good genetics if ur determined enough and soft and hardmaxx

we jsut all have to do whats in our power and be happy with what we can reach

 

[troy_exe]

When he says I have terrible genetics im so unlucky.. he doesnt mean I got bad development

and im very sure he does exacely mean that
there are no "bad" genetics

yeah some ppl genetic potential is capped earlier than others but most ppl complaining abt their genetics had just bad developement

 

[troy_exe]

The difference is small. And obviously not the thing you actually talk about and mean. When he says I have terrible genetics im so unlucky.. he doesnt mean I got bad development. As he woukd say that.

almost everything thats ugly from ur face comes from developement

height yes that can be capped hard by genetics

 

[MemorableMoron]

almost everything thats ugly from ur face comes from developement

height yes that can be capped hard by genetics

This is just cope. You think everyone has bad development? In reality you can differentiate attractive people from everyone else by the age of 3 or even 2 or even younger.

 

[troy_exe]

In reality you can differentiate attractive people from everyone else by the age of 3 or even 2 or even younger.

yeah at 3 you have alr gone through developement thats why

You think everyone has bad development?

everyone below mtn id say so yeah

 

[MemorableMoron]

yeah at 3 you have alr gone through developement thats why


everyone below mtn id say so yeah

If your including natal development then your just stupid. Might aswell just be your genetics.

 

[troy_exe]

If your including natal development then your just stupid. Might aswell just be your genetics.

im sorry man but ur just wrong

"Nutrition in the first 1,000 days of life determines up to 60% of a child’s potential adult height. This period is critical for skeletal development, with the fetal stage (starting around the 4th month of pregnancy) and the first two years post-birth serving as the "golden window" for linear growth.
Inadequate nutrition during this window can lead to stunting and irreversible structural changes in bones, while optimal intake of key nutrients supports maximum growth. Essential nutrients include ...."


again man ur genetics are just the theoretical potential that you can reach.
if u get perfect conditions, only then ur gonna reach that
ur height and how attractive u are just depends on how good or bad u fulfill that potential

 

[MemorableMoron]

im sorry man but ur just wrong

"Nutrition in the first 1,000 days of life determines up to 60% of a child’s potential adult height. This period is critical for skeletal development, with the fetal stage (starting around the 4th month of pregnancy) and the first two years post-birth serving as the "golden window" for linear growth.
Inadequate nutrition during this window can lead to stunting and irreversible structural changes in bones, while optimal intake of key nutrients supports maximum growth. Essential nutrients include ...."


again man ur genetics are just the theoretical potential that you can reach.
if u get perfect conditions, only then ur gonna reach that
ur height and how attractive u are just depends on how good or bad u fulfill that potential

These % statistics are almost always comaprwd between twins and the actual percentage is for the accounted hieght differnce not the actual total hieght.

Ie 5'10" vs 5'9" 60% of that 1inch is responsible due to this. The other 40% being genetic varation.

But keep coping if onlu u had better nutrion you would of been 6'6" chad right?