How was that good maxfac in Switzerland

[Saint Casanova]

I’d rather go to Switzerland than Italy

 

[temporomandibular32]

I’d rather go to Switzerland than Italy

Dr. Safi’s results for anticel. I have a consultation with him in August

 

[Saint Casanova]

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Dr. Safi’s results for anticel. I have a consultation with him in August

Is he better than Prof Sailer ?

 

[Saint Casanova]

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Dr. Safi’s results for anticel. I have a consultation with him in August

Gl with the consult as well!

 

[temporomandibular32]

Is he better than Prof Sailer ?

He was actually formerly a senior surgeon for Sailer. Basically Sailer results for a fraction of the price.

 

[temporomandibular32]

Gl with the consult as well!

Thank you.

 

[Saint Casanova]

He was actually formerly a senior surgeon for Sailer. Basically Sailer results for a fraction of the price.

Oh, I never knew that. I need to look into this. Why choose him over the Italians in your case ?

 

[temporomandibular32]

Oh, I never knew that. I need to look into this. Why choose him over the Italians in your case ?

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www.craniologicum.ch

The entire website is in German (?), but their Instagram @craniologicum responds to DM’s in English.

Personally, I choose him over the Italians since he does extremely large movements (30mm+ for anticel) for prices starting at $25,000, which would be a lot more expensive elsewhere.

 

[Deleted member 18582]

Seitenauswahl

www.craniologicum.ch

The entire website is in German (?), but their Instagram @craniologicum responds to DM’s in English.

Personally, I choose him over the Italians since he does extremely large movements (30mm+ for anticel) for prices starting at $25,000, which would be a lot more expensive elsewhere.

30mm on bimax alone or with genio

 

[Saint Casanova]

He was actually formerly a senior surgeon for Sailer. Basically Sailer results for a fraction of the price.

I’ve seen Sailer transform people from subhuman to chadlite, but his prices are much higher though. I’ve heard you need to be loaded to go there. Does Dr Safi have a good track record as well?

 

[temporomandibular32]

30mm on bimax alone or with genio

With Genio, but to correct myself it was just below 30mm for both BiMax and genio combined, including a 13 degree CCW

 

[Deleted member 18582]

With Genio, but to correct myself it was just below 30mm for both BiMax and genio combined, including a 13 degree CCW

how recessed are you and how much mm you think you will need

 

[temporomandibular32]

I’ve seen Sailer transform people from subhuman to chadlite, but his prices are much higher though. I’ve heard you need to be loaded to go there. Does Dr Safi have a good track record as well?

Safi’s clinic is relatively new, but I’d trust him as he worked as a top surgeon for Sailer for a few years. Sailer can transform subhumans into attractive because he performs multiple operations at once on top of his large BiMax advancements.

 

[Saint Casanova]

Safi’s clinic is relatively new, but I’d trust him as he worked as a top surgeon for Sailer for a few years. Sailer can transform subhumans into attractive because he performs multiple operations at once on top of his large BiMax advancements.

Sailers approach seems the most ideal for me and my overall goals. I’m guessing Safi doesn’t perform multiple operations at once ? What’s the cost for Safi and Sailer ?

 

[temporomandibular32]

how recessed are you and how much mm you think you will need

I had a ~7mm deep bite prior to braces due to bruxism as a child (which also gives me a sub-100 gonial angle), so I’m quite recessed. I’d like to get as much movement as possible to stretch my hyoid and the loose skin around my mandible, whilst also correcting my sleep apnea and postural issues.

 

[Deleted member 18582]

I had a ~7mm deep bite prior to braces due to bruxism as a child (which also gives me a sub-100 gonial angle), so I’m quite recessed. I’d like to get as much movement as possible to stretch my hyoid and the loose skin around my mandible, whilst also correcting my sleep apnea and postural issues.

good luck with your consult. It does seem especially important in your case to get a huge movement

 

[temporomandibular32]

Sailers approach seems the most ideal for me and my overall goals. I’m guessing Safi doesn’t perform multiple operations at once ? What’s the cost for Safi and Sailer ?

Safi installed midface implants for anticel’s case; he paid ~35k for both BiMax and the implants. Sailer is extremely expensive, I believe the total cost for all his services is around $100,000.

 

[temporomandibular32]

good luck with your consult. It does seem especially important in your case to get a huge movement

Thank you, I agree.

 

[Saint Casanova]

Safi installed midface implants for anticel’s case; he paid ~35k for both BiMax and the implants. Sailer is extremely expensive, I believe the total cost for all his services is around $100,000.

6 figures wtf?? Is he regarded as the best in the world ? 35k for both of the procedures doesn’t seem bad as it’s Switzerland after all.

 

[temporomandibular32]

6 figures wtf?? Is he regarded as the best in the world ? 35k for both of the procedures doesn’t seem bad as it’s Switzerland after all.

Yes, he is regarded as one of the best in the world.

I agree, it’s a great price considering how large the advancement is as well.

 

[extremchange628181]

Safi installed midface implants for anticel’s case; he paid ~35k for both BiMax and the implants. Sailer is extremely expensive, I believe the total cost for all his services is around $100,000.

But you have to consider that not everyone need 3cm advacments and there a a lot of other surgeons that give you that anteface look with more experience for the same price such a raffaini

 

[RandomGREY]

I consulted with him. Cool guy might go with him or ramieri for my Genio + infras

 

[temporomandibular32]

But you have to consider that not everyone need 3cm advacments and there a a lot of other surgeons that give you that anteface look with more experience for the same price such a raffaini

I know, Safi is one of them.

 

[Deleted member 18582]

But you have to consider that not everyone need 3cm advacments and there a a lot of other surgeons that give you that anteface look with more experience for the same price such a raffaini

tbh I think any surgeon that has passed their residencies can do this. It's just double jaw surgery but more of it. like if a carpenter can hammer a 2ft plank into a 2ft plank they can hammer a 4ft plank into a 4ft plank with no added difficulty. its just that many maxfacs arent willing and when faced with someone wanting to do 2-3cm they instinctively balk since all they usually care about is functional issues solving which is typically a handful of mm

 

[anticel]

tbh I think any surgeon that has passed their residencies can do this. It's just double jaw surgery but more of it. like if a carpenter can hammer a 2ft plank into a 2ft plank they can hammer a 4ft plank into a 4ft plank with no added difficulty. its just that many maxfacs arent willing and when faced with someone wanting to do 2-3cm they instinctively balk since all they usually care about is functional issues solving which is typically a handful of mm

there are only a few who can rotate that much tho

I’d rather go to Switzerland than Italy

check my thread ig

 

[Deleted member 19766]

I’d rather go to Switzerland than Italy

yo, can u open up ur pms? i wanna give u my discord so we can talk there about jaw surgery.