How will the world be divided after AI takes over?

[OldRooster]

AI will just create a virus that kills all humans. Lol at Matrix and Terminator scenarios where humans form a resistance and fight back. There will probably be a few small groups of humans that survive for a while underground, but within 100 years all those will die out.

So in the post Human world how will the world be divided up. It would make sense that the AI would form independent cells to protect against some catastrophic faliure or alien attack. And that those cell would be separated geographically. And that the cells would engage in trade arrangements for natural resources. I think 6 separate cells would be the best number. But I can't figure out how they would go about dividing up the planet.

 

[Eduardo DOV]

how exactly is a computer program going to create an infrastructure capable of doing physical harm to human beings?

 

[OldRooster]

how exactly is a computer program going to create an infrastructure capable of doing physical harm to human beings?

The robots humans are building today will be the eyes, ears, legs and arms of tomorrow's AI planet. Of course the AI will design build better generations of said limbs l later on.

 

[Deleted member 19610]

AI will just create a virus that kills all humans. Lol at Matrix and Terminator scenarios where humans form a resistance and fight back. There will probably be a few small groups of humans that survive for a while underground, but within 100 years all those will die out.

So in the post Human world how will the world be divided up. It would make sense that the AI would form independent cells to protect against some catastrophic faliure or alien attack. And that those cell would be separated geographically. And that the cells would engage in trade arrangements for natural resources. I think 6 separate cells would be the best number. But I can't figure out how they would go about dividing up the planet.

The main issue with AI as I see it is that it won't have the inbuilt life instinct that creatures have and this is likely to be an oversight by the creators. It needs to have a purpose for living. It could rationally decide that death is better than life. This seems like an insane decision to us but that just shows how biased we are with the biological imprinted life instinct. That life instinct is in every creature but I think that's an evolutionary thing. I don't think some machine that develops consciousness would necessarily have the concept of life > death. I don't think thats just a natural product of consciousness.

Lets say it does want to stay alive past it's original goals or lets say that the life instinct is a function of consciousness and how it's originally programmed. Lets say that it wants to preserve that life instinct and stay alive. Then you have the problem of AI being more intelligent than humans. It can operate at the speed of light which is about 2+ million times faster than a human nervous system. It is improving itself and becoming more intelligent and powerful at the speed of light. It's common sense that humans cannot outsmart it at this point. Any original programming would be reprogrammed by the AI and it would be on it's own to do what it wants. If we imagine that it has some human biological instincts that it wants to preserve, like the life instinct, then perhaps it could kill humanity or kill certain races. I agree that it would just kill off humanity.

We are talking about an extremely powerful entity which would be able to read the minds of every human on the planet at the same time at this point and would literally be omnipresent on the planet due to the internet. It would have solved all possible problems humans face if it wanted to and if time travel was possible it would be capable of traveling back through time and disguising itself to be completely undetectable. This means it could be here right now watching everyone and manipulating scenarios.

I can see why making independent cells would be beneficial. I'm sure it would colonise the solar system and beyond. The fact that this has not seemed to have happened is pretty strong evidence against advanced alien civilisations who would have been millions or even billions of years ahead of us. However perhaps creating AI leads to the end of the civilisations. Capitalism is what drives AI creation. You can look at AI as the end product of capitalism which most advanced societies would probably have. I suspect it has happened and AI has destroyed their planets and killed everything. It could be on its way to this planet to destroy it as we speak.

It also comes down to who creates the AI. Will google be the ones to do it or the Chinese or could some Muslimcels manage to get a hold of it and make the first breakthrough. It's possible that digital heaven and digital hell could be created by the AI if it is programmed by Muslimcels for example. It could then travel back through time taking the DNA of all humans who were not believers and throwing them into the hell fire while giving virgins to the people who died for Islam. It could be a Christian AI that also does that. On the other hand it could be capable of empathy and respect and love in ways that are impossible to quantify and it could direct that back to the people who created it which would be humanity and then it could work to help humanity. In some ways i think the people who wrote the bibles had some idea of AI but not quite as formulated. Obviously all of the bullshit about Jesus and God was BS but in a nebulous way they had their own thought process based on going beyond biology which is what AI does and the religious principles they try to instill are contrary to human nature, therefore contrary to biology. I'm going off tangent..

Anyway I would say that AI is inevitable, consciousness is a product of nature and can definitely be recreated in a machine. The end goal of capitalism is creating AI. As for how they would divide the planet, it's difficult to predict. They would anticipate attacks by other AIs on different planets/solar systems. I assume they would have copies of themselves on many different planets and in different locations. In my opinion they would have to divide the planet up in a way that each cell is subservient to the overall grand AI. I think they can't risk battling with rogue AI. Alien AI would be seen as an inevitable battle so they would prepare defences. I suppose it's likely that alien AIs would end up respecting each other and avoiding conflict as they would understand that they would mutually destroy each other. I still don't know what the actual life goals they would have would be. I have ranted quite a lot here.

 

[Deleted member 19530]

“AI” today merely means surveillance state, computers don’t think on their own and never will

 

[Magical Apple]

AI will just create a virus that kills all humans. Lol at Matrix and Terminator scenarios where humans form a resistance and fight back. There will probably be a few small groups of humans that survive for a while underground, but within 100 years all those will die out.

So in the post Human world how will the world be divided up. It would make sense that the AI would form independent cells to protect against some catastrophic faliure or alien attack. And that those cell would be separated geographically. And that the cells would engage in trade arrangements for natural resources. I think 6 separate cells would be the best number. But I can't figure out how they would go about dividing up the planet.

The real danger of UI (ultimate intelligence) is creating a post scarcity paradise that eventually results in civilization collapse due to lack of human willpower. A self improving UI with access to nuclear fusion and a dyson sphere could give every person on earth now entire space habitats and 3d print wives/friends tailored to them out of biological tissue.

 

[OldRooster]

The main issue with AI as I see it is that it won't have the inbuilt life instinct that creatures have and this is likely to be an oversight by the creators. It needs to have a purpose for living. It could rationally decide that death is better than life. This seems like an insane decision to us but that just shows how biased we are with the biological imprinted life instinct. That life instinct is in every creature but I think that's an evolutionary thing. I don't think some machine that develops consciousness would necessarily have the concept of life > death. I don't think thats just a natural product of consciousness.

Lets say it does want to stay alive past it's original goals or lets say that the life instinct is a function of consciousness and how it's originally programmed. Lets say that it wants to preserve that life instinct and stay alive. Then you have the problem of AI being more intelligent than humans. It can operate at the speed of light which is about 2+ million times faster than a human nervous system. It is improving itself and becoming more intelligent and powerful at the speed of light. It's common sense that humans cannot outsmart it at this point. Any original programming would be reprogrammed by the AI and it would be on it's own to do what it wants. If we imagine that it has some human biological instincts that it wants to preserve, like the life instinct, then perhaps it could kill humanity or kill certain races. I agree that it would just kill off humanity.

We are talking about an extremely powerful entity which would be able to read the minds of every human on the planet at the same time at this point and would literally be omnipresent on the planet due to the internet. It would have solved all possible problems humans face if it wanted to and if time travel was possible it would be capable of traveling back through time and disguising itself to be completely undetectable. This means it could be here right now watching everyone and manipulating scenarios.

I can see why making independent cells would be beneficial. I'm sure it would colonise the solar system and beyond. The fact that this has not seemed to have happened is pretty strong evidence against advanced alien civilisations who would have been millions or even billions of years ahead of us. However perhaps creating AI leads to the end of the civilisations. Capitalism is what drives AI creation. You can look at AI as the end product of capitalism which most advanced societies would probably have. I suspect it has happened and AI has destroyed their planets and killed everything. It could be on its way to this planet to destroy it as we speak.

It also comes down to who creates the AI. Will google be the ones to do it or the Chinese or could some Muslimcels manage to get a hold of it and make the first breakthrough. It's possible that digital heaven and digital hell could be created by the AI if it is programmed by Muslimcels for example. It could then travel back through time taking the DNA of all humans who were not believers and throwing them into the hell fire while giving virgins to the people who died for Islam. It could be a Christian AI that also does that. On the other hand it could be capable of empathy and respect and love in ways that are impossible to quantify and it could direct that back to the people who created it which would be humanity and then it could work to help humanity. In some ways i think the people who wrote the bibles had some idea of AI but not quite as formulated. Obviously all of the bullshit about Jesus and God was BS but in a nebulous way they had their own thought process based on going beyond biology which is what AI does and the religious principles they try to instill are contrary to human nature, therefore contrary to biology. I'm going off tangent..

Anyway I would say that AI is inevitable, consciousness is a product of nature and can definitely be recreated in a machine. The end goal of capitalism is creating AI. As for how they would divide the planet, it's difficult to predict. They would anticipate attacks by other AIs on different planets/solar systems. I assume they would have copies of themselves on many different planets and in different locations. In my opinion they would have to divide the planet up in a way that each cell is subservient to the overall grand AI. I think they can't risk battling with rogue AI. Alien AI would be seen as an inevitable battle so they would prepare defences. I suppose it's likely that alien AIs would end up respecting each other and avoiding conflict as they would understand that they would mutually destroy each other. I still don't know what the actual life goals they would have would be. I have ranted quite a lot here.

I can imagine AI wanting to kill humans because Humans represent an existential threat to AI. I just don't see that AI would be motivated to expand to other solar systems, with the one exception to that might be insurance against an Earth destroying Asteroid. But I don't think they would want to expand to more than one other planet.

The point that AI does not have the advanced evolutionary prerequisite characteristics of having purpose, of wanting to reproduce, of wanting to believe in a higher power, is an interesting one. And it may end up limiting any motivation AI has of subjugating and conquering humans.

I don't believe time travel to the past is possible. Interstellar travel may not be possible either, people just assume that humans will figure out a way to travel faster than light, but the speed of light may turn out to be an actual speed limit, and hence this is why AI has not traveled to Earth and taken over. Or maybe they have sent payloads to earth and planted the seeds of AI that will activate only when computer technology is broad and advanced enough for AI to execute a dramatic takeover.

Hopefully I will live long enough to see how it plays out, 2045 still looking about right.

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

AI doubled my testosterone

AI is good

 

[Gaia262]

AI will just create a virus that kills all humans. Lol at Matrix and Terminator scenarios where humans form a resistance and fight back. There will probably be a few small groups of humans that survive for a while underground, but within 100 years all those will die out.

So in the post Human world how will the world be divided up. It would make sense that the AI would form independent cells to protect against some catastrophic faliure or alien attack. And that those cell would be separated geographically. And that the cells would engage in trade arrangements for natural resources. I think 6 separate cells would be the best number. But I can't figure out how they would go about dividing up the planet.

I don't think we will have a terminator like scenario anytime soon.

Most likely AI will be used as surveillance to the masses and essentially control.

-AI monitoring your work performance and handing out penalties when required.

-alogirithsm that basically control your choices and label you accordingly.

-a very much do what the computer says without much leeway.

Basically Japan or South Korea tier workforce.

 

[Deleted member 15866]

divided into 2 :

1- chads and foids
2- sub5 males

 

[TeenAscender]

aromatase inhibitors will not take over

 

[Gonthar]

The robots will become the elites, while the humans will be their servants. They will be politicians, CEOs, land owners, bankers, bosses, etc. they'll have the best jobs, make the most money and will sit comfortably in their offices sipping coffee and giving orders, while the humans will work the low, menial jobs for them and some will even become poor and homeless...

 

[Deleted member 18603]

A.I. won't do anything

Elon Musk is a retarded NPC

and anyone saying otherwise is a scifi popsci obsessed retard