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Occipal bone is increasing as an adaption of stress caused by eletronic devices
 
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Occipal bone is increasing as an adaption of stress caused by eletronic devices
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this guy look like this look at the comments: "Its normal!!!" how can people lie like that so easily.
 
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this guy look like this look at the comments: "Its normal!!!" how can people lie like that so easily.

Well, it is important to keep your hair long if you have this skull, what else can be said :feelshehe:
 
Occipal bone is increasing as an adaption of stress caused by eletronic devices
nice, you mean "wrong posture caused by device usage" tho. (also electronics are generally bad for health+looks anyways and accelerate this process by cell damage and worsen metabolism)
I came to this conclusion too a while ago. The growth on the back of the typical "wimp skull" is nothing more than a bone spur on the heel. It is caused by mechanical tension on the tendons and muscles over time. The friction causes weak bone to shift and re-calcify on the epicenter of tension to relieve some of the mechanical load.
So basically it is caused by tilting your head in the wrong angles, which makes your muscles feel out of place and balance. A weak jaw or general little forward growth will follow and often times balding too, because of the wrong angles and tension forces on the skull bones.......We could think about a solution to this. Postural work+good bone nutrients (D3, Mg, Ca, MK4)+anti-inflammatory work (hydrotherapy, natron etc.) may work?
 
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Well, it is important to keep your hair long if you have this skull, what else can be said :feelshehe:
yeah i also have this and feel kinda sad that i will never rock a buzz cut (big forehead also), at least i got some iq points to cope
 
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Okay so the bone at the lower back of our head is increasing but what does this actually mean? what are the negatives and side-effects? they state this normally happens in old people or basically due to aging but younger people are experiencing growth but not exactly what this means for us.
 
nice, you mean "wrong posture caused by device usage" tho. (also electronics are generally bad for health+looks anyways and accelerate this process by cell damage and worsen metabolism)
I came to this conclusion too a while ago. The growth on the back of the typical "wimp skull" is nothing more than a bone spur on the heel. It is caused by mechanical tension on the tendons and muscles over time. The friction causes weak bone to shift and re-calcify on the epicenter of tension to relieve some of the mechanical load.
So basically it is caused by tilting your head in the wrong angles, which makes your muscles feel out of place and balance. A weak jaw or general little forward growth will follow and often times balding too, because of the wrong angles and tension forces on the skull bones.......We could think about a solution to this. Postural work+good bone nutrients (D3, Mg, Ca, MK4)+anti-inflammatory work (hydrotherapy, natron etc.) may work?
So having bad posture while sitting in front of our computers is causing this? What do you mean by Electronics causing cell damage and worsening metabolism? this is the first i've heard of this. Also, weak jaw/forward growth and balding? explain this, i don't understand what exactly you're saying.
 
nice, you mean "wrong posture caused by device usage" tho. (also electronics are generally bad for health+looks anyways and accelerate this process by cell damage and worsen metabolism)
I came to this conclusion too a while ago. The growth on the back of the typical "wimp skull" is nothing more than a bone spur on the heel. It is caused by mechanical tension on the tendons and muscles over time. The friction causes weak bone to shift and re-calcify on the epicenter of tension to relieve some of the mechanical load.
So basically it is caused by tilting your head in the wrong angles, which makes your muscles feel out of place and balance. A weak jaw or general little forward growth will follow and often times balding too, because of the wrong angles and tension forces on the skull bones.......We could think about a solution to this. Postural work+good bone nutrients (D3, Mg, Ca, MK4)+anti-inflammatory work (hydrotherapy, natron etc.) may work?
Why do you say eletronics are bad for looks?
Its not every case that is caused by eletronics, a Dolichocephaly head shape caused by positioning or Craniosynostosis also. A narrow face is a consequence of it, so maybe theres some correlation with mouth breathing but i need to research deeper into that. The tilt of head will usually have assymetries as an consequence, like a lateral strain. Why do you think Baldness has a correlation?
 
Okay so the bone at the lower back of our head is increasing but what does this actually mean? what are the negatives and side-effects? they state this normally happens in old people or basically due to aging but younger people are experiencing growth but not exactly what this means for us.
Aesthetic, but its very hard to say all the consquences because the human body is very complex and everything is in balance, when you change something a lot change together. In this case all we can do is speculate because there isnt much research on the topic. This type of head shape not always is caused by that.
 
Why do you say eletronics are bad for looks?
Its not every case that is caused by eletronics, a Dolichocephaly head shape caused by positioning or Craniosynostosis also. A narrow face is a consequence of it, so maybe theres some correlation with mouth breathing but i need to research deeper into that. The tilt of head will usually have assymetries as an consequence, like a lateral strain. Why do you think Baldness has a correlation?
I have doli head shape since i was a kid, it's genetic and not something that happens later on in life. Also, narrow face is right, it goes hand in hand with doli head shape. It's terrible. Hopefully the other guy answers as i am genuinely curious how he is putting balding and weak jaw/forward growth in connection to this. Maybe balding because the tension in our skull becomes higher once the muscle moves to compensate?
 
@JohnDoe cool, ofc i can expand. thought this was common knowledge tbh. here's a quick web search result for some basics:
basically stuff like cell towers, smartphone, wi-fi radiation is interfering with vital mineral channels in the cells leading to cell death or cell proliferation (tumors). Also talked with a scientist personally, who's research about "5G causing cell death" was silenced but lobbyists.
If you dive deeper you' ll see that every electronic device has some kind of emitting frequency that might (or might not) interfere with biological frequencies in your body (every molecule on earth has a specific frequency like a finger print, you may heard that bridges may collapse if you hit their frequency - that is why soldiers don't synchronize the march over bridges just as a fun fact). Music has the same power obviously (deep bass sounds like trap, drill rap etc. are not the healthiest)
..To the forward growth and balding part: Forward growth is depending on the location relative to your foramen magnum (the hole in the base of your skull where your whole spine is going through). Now imagine you are a clay figure and got enough material for like 50cm of growth overall in any direction going outwards of the foramen magnum. If you now hold your head wrong on your spine it will grow the bone on the position where it needs balance to ease the gravitational pull and strain on your muscles. So with forward head posture your occiput will grow more than your actual face to be in balance. So of your 50cm of total growth you would end up with the majority in the back instead of a more healthy look. So you need to remodel the clay figure by reposition your gravitational centers to gain forward growth. easier said than done ofc.
To the balding part: One of many reasons for balding is tension in the galea (or better said the muscles attached to it). this tension is literally pulling your hair out, making you inflammed which recruits DHT as a counter agent. There is a lot more to it ofc, and some questions still are unanswered, that's why I can not call it the sole reason for balding, but a very very big part of it.
Very long answer, but maybe someone wants to discuss.
 
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I have doli head shape since i was a kid, it's genetic and not something that happens later on in life. Also, narrow face is right, it goes hand in hand with doli head shape. It's terrible. Hopefully the other guy answers as i am genuinely curious how he is putting balding and weak jaw/forward growth in connection to this. Maybe balding because the tension in our skull becomes higher once the muscle moves to compensate?
Its not because you had something as a kid that is genetic. Pre natal actions are important, also doli shapes have a lot to do with position of the baby head/if your feet was turn opposite
 
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@JohnDoe cool, ofc i can expand. thought this was common knowledge tbh. here's a quick web search result for some basics:
basically stuff like cell towers, smartphone, wi-fi radiation is interfering with vital mineral channels in the cells leading to cell death or cell proliferation (tumors). Also talked with a scientist personally, who's research about "5G causing cell death" was silenced but lobbyists.
If you dive deeper you' ll see that every electronic device has some kind of emitting frequency that might (or might not) interfere with biological frequencies in your body (every molecule on earth has a specific frequency like a finger print, you may heard that bridges may collapse if you hit their frequency - that is why soldiers don't synchronize the march over bridges just as a fun fact). Music has the same power obviously (deep bass sounds like trap, drill rap etc. are not the healthiest)
..To the forward growth and balding part: Forward growth is depending on the location relative to your foramen magnum (the hole in the base of your skull where your whole spine is going through). Now imagine you are a clay figure and got enough material for like 50cm of growth overall in any direction going outwards of the foramen magnum. If you now hold your head wrong on your spine it will grow the bone on the position where it needs balance to ease the gravitational pull and strain on your muscles. So with forward head posture your occiput will grow more than your actual face to be in balance. So of your 50cm of total growth you would end up with the majority in the back instead of a more healthy look. So you need to remodel the clay figure by reposition your gravitational centers to gain forward growth. easier said than done ofc.
To the balding part: One of many reasons for balding is tension in the galea (or better said the muscles attached to it). this tension is literally pulling your hair out, making you inflammed which recruits DHT as a counter agent. There is a lot more to it ofc, and some questions still are unanswered, that's why I can not call it the sole reason for balding, but a very very big part of it.
Very long answer, but maybe someone wants to discuss.
I've heard about the whole 5G causing cancer so the whole cell death makes sense. I wasn't aware regular wifi, smartphone was causing this via radiation aswell. Soon they'll have 5G towers in every city/town and no one will be safe from it.
Balding due to galea and tension seems interesting. Do you have any articles or places i can research more about it? If you want to continue saying something about this topic, i'm all ears and i'm sure others reading will benefit from the info aswell. This is going into specifics but i think some/most people already have some resemblance of knowledge when it comes to tension in our skull maybe causing balding but from what i've seen, no one has really gone into depth on the subject.
 
@JohnDoe cool, ofc i can expand. thought this was common knowledge tbh. here's a quick web search result for some basics:
basically stuff like cell towers, smartphone, wi-fi radiation is interfering with vital mineral channels in the cells leading to cell death or cell proliferation (tumors). Also talked with a scientist personally, who's research about "5G causing cell death" was silenced but lobbyists.
If you dive deeper you' ll see that every electronic device has some kind of emitting frequency that might (or might not) interfere with biological frequencies in your body (every molecule on earth has a specific frequency like a finger print, you may heard that bridges may collapse if you hit their frequency - that is why soldiers don't synchronize the march over bridges just as a fun fact). Music has the same power obviously (deep bass sounds like trap, drill rap etc. are not the healthiest)
..To the forward growth and balding part: Forward growth is depending on the location relative to your foramen magnum (the hole in the base of your skull where your whole spine is going through). Now imagine you are a clay figure and got enough material for like 50cm of growth overall in any direction going outwards of the foramen magnum. If you now hold your head wrong on your spine it will grow the bone on the position where it needs balance to ease the gravitational pull and strain on your muscles. So with forward head posture your occiput will grow more than your actual face to be in balance. So of your 50cm of total growth you would end up with the majority in the back instead of a more healthy look. So you need to remodel the clay figure by reposition your gravitational centers to gain forward growth. easier said than done ofc.
To the balding part: One of many reasons for balding is tension in the galea (or better said the muscles attached to it). this tension is literally pulling your hair out, making you inflammed which recruits DHT as a counter agent. There is a lot more to it ofc, and some questions still are unanswered, that's why I can not call it the sole reason for balding, but a very very big part of it.
Very long answer, but maybe someone wants to discuss.
Yes the eletrogmagnetics really cause cancer and can change your dna. But you said it affects beauty, and thats something it doesnt make sense to me. Do you have any source about forward head posture changing how your face grows forward? Not even the mews claim to posture affects the face. https://academic.oup.com/ejo/article/34/4/397/489217#85508314 this paper shows how posture affect development but its very complex and it happens because of changes in tongue posture. About baldness i heard before here https://tmdocclusion.com/home/connection-to-other-diseases-and-syndromes/hair-loss/ but it looks a lot as pseudoscience. Isnt very hard to understand and would surprise if people didnt had saw that yet. Mike Mew himself is balding.
 
nice, you mean "wrong posture caused by device usage" tho. (also electronics are generally bad for health+looks anyways and accelerate this process by cell damage and worsen metabolism)
I came to this conclusion too a while ago. The growth on the back of the typical "wimp skull" is nothing more than a bone spur on the heel. It is caused by mechanical tension on the tendons and muscles over time. The friction causes weak bone to shift and re-calcify on the epicenter of tension to relieve some of the mechanical load.
So basically it is caused by tilting your head in the wrong angles, which makes your muscles feel out of place and balance. A weak jaw or general little forward growth will follow and often times balding too, because of the wrong angles and tension forces on the skull bones.......We could think about a solution to this. Postural work+good bone nutrients (D3, Mg, Ca, MK4)+anti-inflammatory work (hydrotherapy, natron etc.) may work?
Lets talk about potential solutions. What would you recommend for posture or maybe certain exercises to fix this besides the regular supplements like D3/k2/zinc/MG, also why did you mention MK4 and not MK7? mk7 is better for absorption right? What is natron, google doesn't show anything.
 
@Whatashame beauty is just correlated with health. disturbed metabolism and cell death hinders optimal growth, color etc. of any body part. simply said: a picture with wrong pixels will not look as good as a pic where every pixel is spot on. bad posture melts your tissue down as seen in depression or aging people. bone tissue is like any other tissue in this regard, just the last domino to fall in the row. to the balding stuff: I am just connecting dots of stuff I know and make sure it makes sense. this is great info about tension theory->https://perfecthairhealth.com/scalp-tension-hair-loss/
also there's the theory that cells differentiate according to the tension forces of the extracellular matrix. Different tissue pull and push more or less strongly on the cells (different elastic module) (https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/physiol.00026.2017)

....So what happens in hair loss (in my opinion):
1. tension leads to inflammation and scar tissue starts to form
2. tissue in the scalp now has a different elastic module, because of the scar tissue
3. this in turn changes what cells mature there and what proteins are produced
4. all in all creating a bad environment for hair growth, promoting hair loss with every new (now worsen) hair cycle.
5. sheeeit.

So scalp microcosmos is key basically, anything disrupting it will cause problems (including funghi, tension, chemicals). Tension is probably the most "invisible" one of them. head posture is an easy connection but of course tension could arise from mental stress too.
@JohnDoe slow and steady progress in posture. You need to learn where your body is crooked and try to fix it millimeter by millimeter. I think lot of people standing straight and think that's it, but as soon as they move or do any functional stuff they are back to crooked. Standing perfectly straight should be your default mode without any muscular effort or discomfort imo. You can google "primal posture". Mk7 is just cheaper and gets converted to mk4 anyways as far as i know. also most studies are done with mk4 and people seem to respond better to it. but dunno if it matters that much. natron is just baking soda (NaHCO3).
 
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@Whatashame beauty is just correlated with health. disturbed metabolism and cell death hinders optimal growth, color etc. of any body part. simply said: a picture with wrong pixels will not look as good as a pic where every pixel is spot on. bad posture melts your tissue down as seen in depression or aging people. bone tissue is like any other tissue in this regard, just the last domino to fall in the row. to the balding stuff: I am just connecting dots of stuff I know and make sure it makes sense. this is great info about tension theory->https://perfecthairhealth.com/scalp-tension-hair-loss/
also there's the theory that cells differentiate according to the tension forces of the extracellular matrix. Different tissue pull and push more or less strongly on the cells (different elastic module) (https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/physiol.00026.2017)

....So what happens in hair loss (in my opinion):
1. tension leads to inflammation and scar tissue starts to form
2. tissue in the scalp now has a different elastic module, because of the scar tissue
3. this in turn changes what cells mature there and what proteins are produced
4. all in all creating a bad environment for hair growth, promoting hair loss with every new (now worsen) hair cycle.
5. sheeeit.

So scalp microcosmos is key basically, anything disrupting it will cause problems (including funghi, tension, chemicals). Tension is probably the most "invisible" one of them. head posture is an easy connection but of course tension could arise from mental stress too.
@JohnDoe slow and steady progress in posture. You need to learn where your body is crooked and try to fix it millimeter by millimeter. I think lot of people standing straight and think that's it, but as soon as they move or do any functional stuff they are back to crooked. Standing perfectly straight should be your default mode without any muscular effort or discomfort imo. You can google "primal posture". Mk7 is just cheaper and gets converted to mk4 anyways as far as i know. also most studies are done with mk4 and people seem to respond better to it. but dunno if it matters that much. natron is just baking soda (NaHCO3).
Very interesting, will read the tension theory. What you're basically saying is that just standing straight isn't enough, your body and head posture needs to be right no matter if you're sitting or moving or exercising right? it makes sense. Also, i don't know too much about mk7/mk4 but i take vit d3+k2 and the k2 people say to always take mk7 which is superior to mk4 but that is ofcourse for vitamin supplement and not what we're talking about. I do know that K2 has a wide variety of uses and functions so maybe mk4 is better in that regard. Anyways, maybe we can come up with a list of things aka solutions that we can do daily to improve and resolve these issues. You say to slowly improve posture mm by mm but i think a good start is to first fix your standing and sitting posture. Once you've learnt how to stand and sit properly and placing your head in the right position, that's a good start and then you can move on from there. There's tons of youtube tutorials on bodyweight exercises that will "fix" your posture so that's where i'll begin. I saw you mention hydrotherapy in a previous post and that makes sense i guess, i think everyone knows water therapy helps our joints/muscles and will help our spine and everything that might be fucked up. Not sure what Natron aka baking soda is going to do though. My body/head posture is completely fucked from sitting in front of my computer all day every day for a decade in a terrible position. I have a bad habit of putting my feet up on my desk which requires me to turn my chair to the left side and do it which in turn also makes me have to turn my head to the right aka where my screen is. So my body is fucked because it's at a 11pm angle while my head is turned to noon to face my screen, i'm sure you can see the massive issues that can and have resulted from this. So this is why i'm interested in fixing my body/head.
 
Very interesting, will read the tension theory. What you're basically saying is that just standing straight isn't enough, your body and head posture needs to be right no matter if you're sitting or moving or exercising right? it makes sense. Also, i don't know too much about mk7/mk4 but i take vit d3+k2 and the k2 people say to always take mk7 which is superior to mk4 but that is ofcourse for vitamin supplement and not what we're talking about. I do know that K2 has a wide variety of uses and functions so maybe mk4 is better in that regard. Anyways, maybe we can come up with a list of things aka solutions that we can do daily to improve and resolve these issues. You say to slowly improve posture mm by mm but i think a good start is to first fix your standing and sitting posture. Once you've learnt how to stand and sit properly and placing your head in the right position, that's a good start and then you can move on from there. There's tons of youtube tutorials on bodyweight exercises that will "fix" your posture so that's where i'll begin. I saw you mention hydrotherapy in a previous post and that makes sense i guess, i think everyone knows water therapy helps our joints/muscles and will help our spine and everything that might be fucked up. Not sure what Natron aka baking soda is going to do though. My body/head posture is completely fucked from sitting in front of my computer all day every day for a decade in a terrible position. I have a bad habit of putting my feet up on my desk which requires me to turn my chair to the left side and do it which in turn also makes me have to turn my head to the right aka where my screen is. So my body is fucked because it's at a 11pm angle while my head is turned to noon to face my screen, i'm sure you can see the massive issues that can and have resulted from this. So this is why i'm interested in fixing my body/head.
Your head will always fall into a "lazy" position, meaning a tilt that needs the least muscle activation and balances the head. This means If you slouch and force yourself to have a straight neck you may injure yourself after time. So your body (whole spine) should act as a stable balanced unit. if you find yourself tired and slouching it is better to take a rest than forcing your head into an unnatural position ofc. Posture is basically your way of living not only standing, so I guess the best is training all day movements with good posture+"counter" movements of your daily habits. meaning if you sit a lot in front of a pc you probably internally rotate your shoulders for a long time - you should counteract that with some exercises like reeves deadlifts or just stretching your shoulders back and opening up the thorax. We adapt to our tasks, so basically we need to tell our bodies with daily "counter"-exercises: "Don't adapt to staring into the PC, I need you flexible, for sports, for strength, taking space not hiding". baking soda is just to alkalize the body to reduce inflammation, hydrotherapy does similar things, but also increase blood flow and thus nutrient flows to treated areas. There may be more effective ways, but I like the most minimal and natural stuff for chronic issues. You could start by decreasing time with bad posture, be more aware of it, take a break instead of sitting crooked. Then slowly add some exercises/stretches you find helpful.
 
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@Whatashame beauty is just correlated with health. disturbed metabolism and cell death hinders optimal growth, color etc. of any body part. simply said: a picture with wrong pixels will not look as good as a pic where every pixel is spot on. bad posture melts your tissue down as seen in depression or aging people. bone tissue is like any other tissue in this regard, just the last domino to fall in the row. to the balding stuff: I am just connecting dots of stuff I know and make sure it makes sense. this is great info about tension theory->https://perfecthairhealth.com/scalp-tension-hair-loss/
also there's the theory that cells differentiate according to the tension forces of the extracellular matrix. Different tissue pull and push more or less strongly on the cells (different elastic module) (https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/physiol.00026.2017)

....So what happens in hair loss (in my opinion):
1. tension leads to inflammation and scar tissue starts to form
2. tissue in the scalp now has a different elastic module, because of the scar tissue
3. this in turn changes what cells mature there and what proteins are produced
4. all in all creating a bad environment for hair growth, promoting hair loss with every new (now worsen) hair cycle.
5. sheeeit.

So scalp microcosmos is key basically, anything disrupting it will cause problems (including funghi, tension, chemicals). Tension is probably the most "invisible" one of them. head posture is an easy connection but of course tension could arise from mental stress too.
@JohnDoe slow and steady progress in posture. You need to learn where your body is crooked and try to fix it millimeter by millimeter. I think lot of people standing straight and think that's it, but as soon as they move or do any functional stuff they are back to crooked. Standing perfectly straight should be your default mode without any muscular effort or discomfort imo. You can google "primal posture". Mk7 is just cheaper and gets converted to mk4 anyways as far as i know. also most studies are done with mk4 and people seem to respond better to it. but dunno if it matters that much. natron is just baking soda (NaHCO3).
so theres no science behind the idea of posture causing changes and balding being caused by face formation. Dont you think the ideas are to simple to not being tested yet?
 
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so theres no science behind the idea of posture causing changes and balding being caused by face formation. Dont you think the ideas are to simple to not being tested yet?
Would be surprised if there were a stand-alone study, cause nobody would finance a study they can not profit of obv. But we for sure at least see that tension theory has well understood research behind it, kind of "meta-studies" and logical support. This is a good summary of our current (mainstream science) understanding: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306987717310411
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So the real question is:
what causes tension? ->posture is one obvious cause.
and is it only tension or other factors as well that cause hair loss?
And as I said, I think there are a lot of different reasons for balding with one common denominator and that is "change of scalp environment/identity"->microbiome, tissue elastic module change=tension, chemicals, nutrients. Simply said: Scalp hair can only grow on tissue that is recognized as scalp tissue. You should rule out chemicals by using natural hair products, rule out funghi and shit by using anti-funghal stuff and rule out nutrient deficiency by not eating junk, if you still have hair loss after that you need to take a closer look at tension (mental, body). It probably goes way deeper to quantum level, as every molecule is nothing more than vibrational information manifested in 3D space, so theoretically even personality could play a role here and in every disease - but let's not go there, because nobody on earth has a clue about that. I just think people should not emasculate themselves for some hairs without knowing that the DHT-theory may be outdated and like trying to spoon out a flooding cellar instead of turning off the faucet.
 

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