Hunting an animal is just as bad a s murdering an another human

[RecessedCels]

The only reason you believe there to be a difference is because you're extremely egoistic. That's literally all it is. Humans have a human centric worldview. We mass slaughter over a hundred billion animals every year for food but then cry over a school shooting . How can you feel hatred towards school shooters when you're contributing to something way worse. "Muh muh humans have more value because we ate smart!" - coming from a human

 

[RecessedCels]

This is factual

 

[Jonas2k7]

I think there is some truth to it, maybe there are arguments supporting the other side too though like moral blabla

But then again we'd have to discuss fundamental things regarding philosophy

 

[neverlookback]

we need to hunt though

 

[RecessedCels]

I think there is some truth to it, maybe there are arguments supporting the other side too though like moral blabla

But then again we'd have to discuss fundamental things regarding philosophy

Morals developed in evolution to help humans progress and kill other species are obviously going to be very flawed

 

[RecessedCels]

we need to hunt though

For survival yes. Actually no we wouldn't

 

[Panzram]

The only reason you believe there to be a difference is because you're extremely egoistic. That's literally all it is. Humans have a human centric worldview. We mass slaughter over a hundred billion animals every year for food but then cry over a school shooting . How can you feel hatred towards school shooters when you're contributing to something way worse. "Muh muh humans have more value because we ate smart!" - coming from a human

It's all in the mind, nothing is real and objective. We evolved to care about other humans cuz it helped our survival.

 

[brownmutt42]

Animals were made to be eaten.

 

[brownmutt42]

Animals were made to be eaten.

And they murder each other.

 

[RecessedCels]

It's all in the mind, nothing is real and objective. We evolved to care about other humans cuz it helped our survival.

Exactly. Once you try to think without a human egoistic worldview you realize a hunter and a school shooter are the same

 

[RecessedCels]

Animals were made to be eaten.

According to who

 

[RecessedCels]

And they murder each other.

So do we

 

[Panzram]

Exactly. Once you try to think without a human egoistic worldview you realize a hunter and a school shooter are the same

Even if we decide not to value human life over animal, a hunter at least kills with the purpose of survival.

 

[brownmutt42]

According to who

Me

 

[brownmutt42]

So do we

Proof?

 

[RecessedCels]

Even if we decide not to value human life over animal, a hunter at least kills with the purpose of survival.

There are plenty of hunters who hunt for fun

 

[Panzram]

There are plenty of hunters who hunt for fun

They hunt other species. Even animals don't kill their own species for fun.

 

[RecessedCels]

They hunt other species. Even animals don't kill their own species for fun.

So? How does that change anything? That's just tribalism

 

[Uehdbwidbfngj]

The only reason you believe there to be a difference is because you're extremely egoistic. That's literally all it is. Humans have a human centric worldview. We mass slaughter over a hundred billion animals every year for food but then cry over a school shooting . How can you feel hatred towards school shooters when you're contributing to something way worse. "Muh muh humans have more value because we ate smart!" - coming from a human

so does that mean killing a rat is the same as killing a human

 

[Panzram]

So? How does that change anything? That's just tribalism

I am just saying we are the species that does the most abnormal shit. I am not gonna try and impose some absolute morals of what is right and wrong, just saying we are the most abnormal species.

 

[RecessedCels]

so does that mean killing a rat is the same as killing a human

How is it different

 

[Yuki]

The only reason you believe there to be a difference is because you're extremely egoistic. That's literally all it is. Humans have a human centric worldview. We mass slaughter over a hundred billion animals every year for food but then cry over a school shooting . How can you feel hatred towards school shooters when you're contributing to something way worse. "Muh muh humans have more value because we ate smart!" - coming from a human

imagine thinking animals and humans are the same 6/10 rage bait nigga

 

[RecessedCels]

I am just saying we are the species that does the most abnormal shit. I am not gonna try and impose some absolute morals of what is right and wrong, just saying we are the most abnormal species.

We surely are abnormal

 

[RecessedCels]

imagine thinking animals and humans are the same 6/10 rage bait nigga

Explain how it's different

 

[Panzram]

To us, human life matters more just instinctively, and philosophical justifications are insignificant when compared to the hardwiring of our brains by evolution

 

[Uehdbwidbfngj]

imagine thinking animals and humans are the same 6/10 rage bait nigga

They are kind of

 

[TheLightOfMyLife]

I agree but I think it should be legal to merc other humans

 

[Uehdbwidbfngj]

How is it different

Would you rather kill 100 rats or put a bullet through a human’s head

 

[RecessedCels]

To us, human life matters more just instinctively, and philosophical justifications are insignificant when compared to the hardwiring of our brains by evolution

a mind made to prioritize its own survival can't be unbiased

 

[RecessedCels]

They are kind of

Exactly

 

[RecessedCels]

Would you rather kill 100 rats or put a bullet through a human’s head

There's plenty of people I want dead

 

[Yuki]

Explain how it's different

nigga im gonna rape you while eating a steak u worthless piece of shit while you slowly realize what a faggot u are

7/10 Ragebait btw

 

[Panzram]

Explain how it's different

It's not even a difference of kind more of a degree. Apes show emotions and intelligence too, just our brains are capable of the same things to a higher degree. We are more alike than many realise.

 

[RecessedCels]

nigga im gonna rape you while eating a steak u worthless piece of shit while you slowly realize what a faggot u are

7/10 Ragebait btw

You have no arguments because we both know I'm right

 

[Uehdbwidbfngj]

There's plenty of people I want dead

No a random human’s skull you see on the street you also dont get punished by the law

 

[RecessedCels]

It's not even a difference of kind more of a degree. Apes show emotions and intelligence too, just our brains are capable of the same things to a higher degree. We are more alike than many realise.

"we are smart and complicated therefore we can kill the dumb and less developed"

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

No it’s not because right and wrong don’t exist in the first place it’s all subjective innjt

 

[u4tildawl]

imagine thinking animals and humans are the same 6/10 rage bait nigga

ik theres a vegan soldier lurking whos gonna run the ntt dialogue tree on him

 

[Yuki]

You have no arguments because we both know I'm right

Survival of the fittest you cuck a lion dont give a shit about a zebra does it

 

[Panzram]

a mind made to prioritize its own survival can't be unbiased

Why should it even be unbiased? I am happy to be biased to my own survival and to the survival of my family. I am not a disembodied spirit but a man of flesh and blood and all philosophy can go suck my cock.

 

[RecessedCels]

No a random human’s skull you see on the street you also dont get punished by the law

If I quick shot a random person from a distance without looking at the aftermath I'd probably be fine

 

[TheLightOfMyLife]

Would you rather kill 100 rats or put a bullet through a human’s head

Bullet through human

 

[RecessedCels]

Survival of the fittest you cuck a lion dont give a shit about a zebra does it

Survival of the fittest. Dead kids in school while the shooter lives, right?

 

[Uehdbwidbfngj]

Bullet through human

No you wouldn’t

 

[Panzram]

"we are smart and complicated therefore we can kill the dumb and less developed"

Unironically, yes. What are they gonna do about it? Might makes right.

 

[RecessedCels]

Why should it even be unbiased? I am happy to be biased to my own survival and to the survival of my family. I am not a disembodied spirit but a man of flesh and blood and all philosophy can go suck my cock.

Ofc it's going to be unbiased. I just don't have the same level of bias as most people

 

[TheLightOfMyLife]

No you wouldn’t

IRL? nah ofc not cuz consequences
but if i could choose to have a random human killed id do it without question

 

[RecessedCels]

No you wouldn’t

I would feel better about shooting a single human than 100 rats

 

[RecessedCels]

Unironically, yes. What are they gonna do about it? Might makes right.

The point is that there is no real moral difference

 

[Yuki]

Survival of the fittest. Dead kids in school while the shooter lives, right?

i dont give a shit if some incel shoots up a school + a dog only cares about another dog a lion only cares about a lion no different to us