Hypergamous Males

[lonelynigga]

I’m sure every one of us has seen it: some sub-5 with an HTB or MTB, and very rarely even a stacylite. I wonder what the actual cause is. How do I become like that guy? Is he just lucky? It can’t be, since I believe in determinism everything has a cause. So, what causes a girl to go below her level?

The first factor I can think of is JBF theory (just be first). It makes sense, but not entirely, because she still has to be attracted to you first to let you be the "first," so is it really a causative factor? It also can’t just be about being NT (neurotypical). We meme about it, but even in this forum, 70% of guys are NT, and in school, 90% are NT with functioning social lives.

What about social status? School status is a big deal. I know this ugly guy who has girls crushing on him; he’s short and black, but he’s the school’s best baller and is a funny, confident "jester." That might be a causative factor. Then there’s Volume Theory. I know a guy with no status and below-average looks who slays just because he approaches an insane amount of girls—triple-digit body count. Some are HTB, though most are LTB or MTB. What other causative factors are there? How does a sub-5 bag girls above his league? And before you chimp out and call it cope retards i still think looks is king , but I want to be able to explain how these anomalies happen.
So list some down

 

[lonelynigga]

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[lonelynigga]

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[hye732]

That is almost never the case

 

[Deleted member 310685]

I’m sure every one of us has seen it: some sub-5 with an HTB or MTB, and very rarely even a stacylite. I wonder what the actual cause is.

Money, Status, JBF, etc.

 

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Lonelynigga

 

[motionmantris]

was this thread made by a foid or homosexual by chance

 

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Money, Status, JBF, etc.

Jbf?

 

[lonelynigga]

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That is almost never the case

Yes that is why i said anomalies why does that sometimes happen never said it happens often

 

[btb]

I know a 5'9 LTN who got with multiple MTBs and HTBs. He's just one the most NTmaxed niggas i've ever seen

 

[lonelynigga]

Jbf?

Just be first its a theory that women brains get hypergamous every time they fuck so to stop that just be first

 

[lonelynigga]

I know a 5'9 LTN who got with multiple MTBs and HTBs. He's just one the most NTmaxed niggas i've ever seen

When you say NT what do you mean

 

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When you say NT what do you mean

Good at social interactions and friendly

 

[btb]

When you say NT what do you mean

He had a big friend group, every foid in the area knew him by name, he was at every party, etc

 

[shandingo]

I’m sure every one of us has seen it: some sub-5 with an HTB or MTB, and very rarely even a stacylite. I wonder what the actual cause is. How do I become like that guy? Is he just lucky? It can’t be, since I believe in determinism everything has a cause. So, what causes a girl to go below her level?

The first factor I can think of is JBF theory (just be first). It makes sense, but not entirely, because she still has to be attracted to you first to let you be the "first," so is it really a causative factor? It also can’t just be about being NT (neurotypical). We meme about it, but even in this forum, 70% of guys are NT, and in school, 90% are NT with functioning social lives.

What about social status? School status is a big deal. I know this ugly guy who has girls crushing on him; he’s short and black, but he’s the school’s best baller and is a funny, confident "jester." That might be a causative factor. Then there’s Volume Theory. I know a guy with no status and below-average looks who slays just because he approaches an insane amount of girls—triple-digit body count. Some are HTB, though most are LTB or MTB. What other causative factors are there? How does a sub-5 bag girls above his league? And before you chimp out and call it cope retards i still think looks is king , but I want to be able to explain how these anomalies happen.
So list some down

First off, below 18 the BP and hypergamy doesn't even come into full effect , you are in a bubble so straight away we can eliminate all cases of this phenomena for under-18s. Secondly , sub-5s do not get girls you are severely over-rating women and under-rating guys. Obviously , there are sub-5s that can buy/rent women but its a banal moot point, we don't care about that. Anyway starting at LTN+ : JBF theory works people get more attractive over time , this is studied in the literature, frequent Oxytocin release causes strong social bonds. Social status is part of the LMS triad so yeah the footballers and basketballers at college or bankers and doctors in adulthood get a SMV boost. However , to crush on your parade , the blackpill always comes to collect whether its now or in 10 years , women are hypergamous and will leave you when you are significantly no longer her best option. You think if a girl who is a point out your league is going to be loyal , when she is constantly pandered by guys that are significantly higher SMV than you in bars, clubs, online, at work , at the gym and so on .

 

[Faxed]

I know a 5'9 LTN who got with multiple MTBs and HTBs. He's just one the most NTmaxed niggas i've ever seen

Yeah I know a guy just like this, slays more than any HTN or CL I know. Hypergamy is a meme until the mid twenties.

 

[LUKE546733]

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Consult the graph nigga

 

[lonelynigga]

First off, below 18 the BP and hypergamy doesn't even come into full effect , you are in a bubble so straight away we can eliminate all cases of this phenomena for under-18s. Secondly , sub-5s do not get girls you are severely over-rating women and under-rating guys. Obviously , there are sub-5s that can buy/rent women but its a banal moot point, we don't care about that. Anyway starting at LTN+ : JBF theory works people get more attractive over time , this is studied in the literature, frequent Oxytocin release causes strong social bonds. Social status is part of the LMS triad so yeah the footballers and basketballers at college or bankers and doctors in adulthood get a SMV boost. However , to crush on your parade , the blackpill always comes to collect whether its now or in 10 years , women are hypergamous and will leave you when you are significantly no longer her best option. You think if a girl who is a point out your league is going to be loyal , when she is constantly pandered by guys that are significantly higher SMV than you in bars, clubs, online, at work , at the gym and so on .

First off i was under the impression that ltn are sub 5 mtn being 5 that might be the confusion, and i agree that the game is different under 18 but what do you think about volume theory just for slaying above your looks level is it cope or not from my anecdotal experience i know plenty of guys that slay not that good looking they just approach and are nt and this over 18 btw and if you dont have to believe my anecdotal experience https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1474704915604563 this study from 2015 sample size 60,000 men they track for height and bmi very short body count was 9.4 extremely tall body count was 12.3 if the blackpill was true as you said you would see a much bigger number difference and you would expect manlet to have no slays i think the study is very interesting i would like you talk to me about it no hate

 

[lonelynigga]

First off i was under the impression that ltn are sub 5 mtn being 5 that might be the confusion, and i agree that the game is different under 18 but what do you think about volume theory just for slaying above your looks level is it cope or not from my anecdotal experience i know plenty of guys that slay not that good looking they just approach and are nt and this over 18 btw and if you dont have to believe my anecdotal experience https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1474704915604563 this study from 2015 sample size 60,000 men they track for height and bmi very short body count was 9.4 extremely tall body count was 12.3 if the blackpill was true as you said you would see a much bigger number difference and you would expect manlet to have no slays i think the study is very interesting i would like you talk to me about it no hate

The number i posted earlier is the mean The median is 5 for very short while all the other heights is 7 so still the difference is by much and average is 7 while extremely tall is also 7

 

[shandingo]

First off i was under the impression that ltn are sub 5 mtn being 5 that might be the confusion, and i agree that the game is different under 18 but what do you think about volume theory just for slaying above your looks level is it cope or not from my anecdotal experience i know plenty of guys that slay not that good looking they just approach and are nt and this over 18 btw and if you dont have to believe my anecdotal experience https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1474704915604563 this study from 2015 sample size 60,000 men they track for height and bmi very short body count was 9.4 extremely tall body count was 12.3 if the blackpill was true as you said you would see a much bigger number difference and you would expect manlet to have no slays i think the study is very interesting i would like you talk to me about it no hate

Conclusions from study : "Taller men will report a more extensive sexual history than shorter men" and "Men in middle BMI ranges will report a more extensive sexual history than underweight or obese men." doesn't dispute the BP for me. You can argue the gap isn't as big between tall and short because face is the biggest determining factor followed by race. No you can't volume your way out of the BP , you can get ONS with the drunkest girls at bars and clubs or desperate women with enough volume but LTRs aren't happening.

 

[NoExit]

i have never seen this

 

[lonelynigga]

Conclusions from study : "Taller men will report a more extensive sexual history than shorter men" and "Men in middle BMI ranges will report a more extensive sexual history than underweight or obese men." doesn't dispute the BP for me. You can argue the gap isn't as big between tall and short because face is the biggest determining factor followed by race. No you can't volume your way out of the BP , you can get ONS with the drunkest girls at bars and clubs or desperate women with enough volume but LTRs aren't happening.

I found one for facial attractiveness your intuitions were actually opposite for https://www.researchgate.net/public...or_Does_attractiveness_enhance_mating_success
this one has only the abstract researchers cucking us
This is what it says

"Facial attractiveness correlated with the number of short-term, but not long-term, sexual partners for males... attractive males also became sexually active earlier than their peers."

So its saying for ltr it has little to no correlation with facial attractiveness but for hookups it does
Im not trying to unblackpill you im just trying to show that real life isnt as simple as just looks, Either way good debate

 

[mrdouchebag]

Just be first tracks as a theory. Women in school haven't been run through yet, plenty of them are still virgins, aren't fully aware of their own physical attractiveness yet and some of them are just excited they get some attention from a low inhib high T sub5.

Money and social status are obvious, so I don't need to explain.

 

[shandingo]

I found one for facial attractiveness your intuitions were actually opposite for https://www.researchgate.net/public...or_Does_attractiveness_enhance_mating_success
this one has only the abstract researchers cucking us
This is what it says

So its saying for ltr it has little to no correlation with facial attractiveness but for hookups it does
Im not trying to unblackpill you im just trying to show that real life isnt as simple as just looks, Either way good debate

One paper from 2005 when dating apps became a thing in 2009-2012. I'm not going to read through every study nor give you multiple studies for you to read. Look up dating app statistics and see that 20% of men get all the matches to be kind , look at stats showing women rank most men as below average. Go on youtube and watch Rehab Room and FaceansLMS , they will do a better job than me at explaining the BP and they reference and critique studies in a lot of their videos. Start with FaceandLMS watch his WAW1 series https://www.youtube.com/@FACEandLMS2/videos then https://www.youtube.com/@rehabroom1 for modern and nuanced takes . If you are not BPd after that I don't even know what I can do lmao .

 

[truthprovider1]

This happens for what I like to call "losers theory"
>esentially, most dudes around the ages of 16-25
can be considered losers in one way or another
(alcoholics, gambling addicts, unhygienic,
dumb, disorganized , broke etc)
every woman nowadays has to either be a HTB or above
in a proper environment or she has to choose a guy
who she is ok with (ok with his loser side)(for example
attractive hygienic guy that is emotionally intelligent but
doesn't have a job, money is a issue but he "scratches her itch")(or ugly
guy with social status)

 

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