Hypergamy is the one aspect of the blackpill I change my mind about on a daily basis nearly

[MakinItHappenReturn]

I believe I was in the HTN range for 93/103 of my slays
I would say 5 of my slays were HTB
So it takes me 18.6 slays on average to slay 1 HTB

The immense power of height with a bit of broad frame.

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

@DoctorLooksmax where are you located?

 

[444]

Here we go again with "dating apps". Of course, dating apps are much much harder because of the gender imbalance on the apps, but in real life regular looking dudes get laid. Also, who said only 6'1 blonde guys who have glasses and are skinny get laid? Just go outside your house and touch some grass bro.

There isn't a big gender inbalance on dating apps. The "study" quoting a 75/25 split only pulled data from premium tinder users and only on android phones, which men are much more likely to use in the US.

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

There isn't a big gender inbalance on dating apps. The "study" quoting a 75/25 split only pulled data from premium tinder users and only on android phones, which men are much more likely to use in the US.

men are probably just way more active and swipe way more becasue gthey need to put in 100 times the effort a girl does to get success, but the actual number of users is approx equal

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

men are probably just way more active and swipe way more becasue gthey need to put in 100 times the effort a girl does to get success, but the actual number of users is approx equal

Where are you located you humble-bragging gimp?

 

[Deleted member 2382]

high IQ with humblebrag at the end = based af
why you getting jaw surgery though,your jaw looks good from the side profile

That is not me in my profile pic.
I am surprised by the amount of people on this forum that mistook me for being the prettyboy/Chad I've used in my profile pic
The profile pics I've used are of George Ward and Damian Kater
I made one post sarcastically saying it was me in my profile pic because the person asking me was aware of my posts saying I have a recessed maxilla and an underbite, but went on to think that was still somehow me in the pic

Thank you for the appreciation of the theory
The fact that I have 98 slays which were LTB/MTB doesn't count for much so I don't consider it a humble brag, just a mental illness that I continued to put the amount of alcohol and roids into my body that was required to sustain that volume of slaying

 

[Deleted member 2382]

@DoctorLooksmax i hope you dont believe this made up shit by some random guy on the internet

just autism to the max

As if I don't speak to him almost daily on here where we find common ground on most theories

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

@DoctorLooksmax i hope you dont believe this made up shit by some random guy on the internet

just autism to the max

@6ft4 is legit and has that body count.

He told me about it in PMs on Lookism also.

He claimed most were mid, low beckys and 3/10 ugly with body halo's too

It's believable. He has LTN face due to midface length + height + frame + skull

People on here underrate height and frame which is the most major indicator of dimorphism outside of your lower third

 

[Ziggy S]

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From a relationship standpoint
HTN = Guaranteed Looks Purgatory

Reason Being:
It is too much of a risk for Stacey or StaceyLite to get in a relationship with a HTN because the preselection Halo he receives from this runs the risk of other girls seeing value in him, causing them to consider him a Chadlite, meaning he will then be able to cheat on her with girls of the same level as her, whereas he couldn't get those girls before her

Whereas if a Stacey/Staceylite gets with a MTN, girls will not look at him and think maybe he's a Chadlite so they will know that she is the best girl he can get and know the girl is in control of the power of the relationship

If a Stacey/Staceylite gets a relationship with a Chad/Chadlite it is seen as normal and she knows she is running the risk of him cheating on her with a girl of the same level as her but it's worth the lack of power she has over him because of the pleasure she gets from being with him. (I think most S/SL start off down this route in relationships from 14-20 but then start going for the MTNs when they see every relationship fails)

Even LTN has a chance of a relationship with a StaceyLite if she can stomach him
I was staying at an airBnB and in the space of 10 days I seen some couples with looks imbalances that blew my mind
Maybe even a Stacey could stomach a LTN for a relationship but I would hope for my own sanity he is not getting sex more than once per month

So what relationship options is the HTN left with:
He can fuck LTB and MTB from tinder and clubs on first meeting (atho even this is getting harder in 2022)
He can then ask her over to fuck a few more times until she starts to look for a relationship with him but he usually cannot feel a true desire to have a relationship with her due to seeing StaceyLites in relationships with LTNs every time he steps outside

So the last option left are HTBs, this should in theory be his looksmatch so he shouldn't struggle with them right?
Wrong, HTBs think their looksmatch is Chadlite so they will get into fuckbuddy scenarios with them thinking it will lead to relationships but it never does.
HTBs can't bring themselves to give up quick sex and fuckbuddy scenarios to HTN except in rare instances where he gets lucky and is in right place right time so she is rarely dealing with her true looksmatch.
HTN doesn't think he should have to go on dates with HTB before getting sex like he would with a StaceyLite so the HTN & HTB both see themselves as having the least to gain from pairing up with each other

I believe I was in the HTN range for 93/103 of my slays
I would say 5 of my slays were HTB
So it takes me 18.6 slays on average to slay 1 HTB

Yes, this is also why HTN with low trust and dimorphic features lose out to HTN with high trust features, even height isn't enough to save a man, as we see with you @6ft4

Look at @Niko69, zero dimorphism and doesn't have spectacular looks, but still has 1000's of matches and becuase he's GL enough and high trust. The fact that most women, especially the whores on tinder are taking the pill (crushing ovulation) means they're prefference has shifted to prettyboy looks.

People like @Br0sk1 have no deformities and is tall but looks like he's a serial killer, so he loses out, despite his well developed face.

Edit : it also doesn't help that @Br0sk1 is extremely non NT looking on top of being low trust. Wheras there are some badboy looking motherfuckers covered in tatoos who can slay.

 

[Ziggy S]

Low trust while looking non NT is the biggest death sentence there is.

Low trust while looking NT can net you some easy slays

Hight trust, Nt looking and GL = You essentially have the options of a foid.

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

Low trust while looking non NT is the biggest death sentence there is.

Low trust while looking NT can net you some easy slays

Hight trust, Nt looking and GL = You essentially have the options of a foid.

I thought I was high truet and nt looks tbh- maybe I’m not tho

Or I’m just overrating my looks

 

[Prettyboy]

I rarely go on dates with my looksmatch or better. I have never dated a stacylite.

90% of my online-dating dates are Beckies that I am not really attracted to, but they pass the looks threshold for fwb. It's better than nothing, but I find dating these girls kinda a waste of time. Not really worth all the effort when there's very little to gain.

Like once every 5-6 months do I find a HTB girl that is new on a dating app and somehow drawn to me and very talkative. Those are the gems that I am staying active on OLD for.
Low-effort swiping/talking for half a year, just to get that 1 good match again that has big potential. JFL honestly.

Where would you put yourself on the looks totem pole? (i’ve seen your pictures, I’m curious what YOU think about yourself)

Also, what looks levels and qualities would a girl need to have for you to consider investing into her?

 

[Ziggy S]

I thought I was high truet and nt looks tbh- maybe I’m not tho

Or I’m just overrating my looks

You are very likley mid trust, NT and somewhat GL, which explains your successes, the people I mentioned don't get anything like what you get.

I get good success, becuase of these things.

(ignore the foid)

I'm like a dicount verison of @Niko69. Though I wouldn't trade with him as I'd be a manlet.

I'm not as tall as @6ft4 and my face isn't nearly as well develped as @Br0sk1

Basically I'm very high trust looking and NT and GL enough. This nets me lays and mostly positive treatment from beckies of all calibers

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

You are very likley mid trust, NT and somewhat GL, which explains your successes, the people I mentioned don't get anything like what you get.

I get good success, becuase of these things.

(ignore the foid)

I'm like a dicount verison of @Niko69. Though I wouldn't trade with him as I'd be a manlet.

I'm not as tall as @6ft4 and my face isn't nearly as well develped as @Br0sk1

Basically I'm very high trust looking and NT and GL enough. This nets me lays and mostly positive treatment from beckies of all calibers

That's you? Do you think you or that guy is HTN?

Unless there is some serious distortion going on here then no way

 

[Ziggy S]

That's you?

That be me yes.

Unless there is some serious distortion going on here then no way

wdym?

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

You are very likley mid trust, NT and somewhat GL, which explains your successes, the people I mentioned don't get anything like what you get.

I get good success, becuase of these things.

(ignore the foid)

I'm like a dicount verison of @Niko69. Though I wouldn't trade with him as I'd be a manlet.

I'm not as tall as @6ft4 and my face isn't nearly as well develped as @Br0sk1

Basically I'm very high trust looking and NT and GL enough. This nets me lays and mostly positive treatment from beckies of all calibers

You don’t look HTN to me honestly unless it’s just that you have a really bad smile

Show resting face tbh

 

[Enfant terrible]

As if I don't speak to him almost daily on here where we find common ground on most theories

iam sorry for you guys

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

That be me yes.




wdym?

You are not HTN or this is serious distortion.

What gives you the impression you are an every day good looking normie? You are slaying ethnics which shows you are running JBW game as a MTN and there is nothing wrong with that, I just think you have got your looks-level wrong.

 

[Ziggy S]

You don’t look HTN to me honestly unless it’s just that you have a really bad smile

Never said I was, I said I was high trust and GL enough to get decent matches and treatment.

 

[Ziggy S]

You are not HTN or this is serious distortion.

What gives you the impression you are an every day good looking normie? You are slaying ethnics which shows you are running JBW game as a MTN and there is nothing wrong with that, I just think you have got your looks-level wrong.

I didn't say I was, but MTN and high trust + NT is enough lol.

This is the point, the autistic standards of lookism would have you believe that @Br0sk1 is slyaing left and right.

No one would have believed that @Niko69 has 20 k matches, he's at best chadlite, but more like an HTN.

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

Never said I was, I said I was high trust and GL enough to get decent matches and treatment.

Fair enough- I’d rate you like a 5/10 tbh I’m suprised you get slays online tbh

Tbf that’s what you claimed

 

[Ziggy S]

Fair enough- I’d rate you like a 5/10 tbh I’m suprised you get slays online tbh

Gymcelled body + NT pics, will probably show you profile at some point.

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Never said I was, I said I was high trust and GL enough to get decent matches and treatment.

You are running just be white game on low tier ethnic Beckys

It's nothing to do with being high trust or good looking, actually it might be high trust, if you are going for educated introverted types.

It's your race mainly tho. You don't understanding how the sexual market works. You could have the same level looks, high trustness and not be white and you would do worse.

Ethnics in the west see it as a socioeconomic upgrade getting with a white guy. So they get with white guys that are similar to slightly better looking than them. You are mid tier normie white guy getting low tier normie ethnics, I don't understand. It's not being good looking.

 

[Ziggy S]

It's your race mainly tho. You don't understanding how the sexual market works. You could have the same level looks, high trustness and not be white and you would do worse.

I literally talk about the benefits of being white non stop lol

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Fair enough- I’d rate you like a 5/10 tbh I’m suprised you get slays online tbh

Tbf that’s what you claimed

I'm not surprised.

He is right in that he is high-trust boyfriend LTR material looking and likely wines and dines these chicks before getting into bed with them + he is white and they are very likely all mostly ethnic or asian + they are LTB going on the girl he's posted here.

Nothing wrong with that but he isn't mentioning the race element which is very prevalent here.

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

I literally talk about the benefits of being white non stop lol

You didn't in this post man, that's all I'm saying.

I don't read all your posts obviously.

 

[Ziggy S]

You didn't in this post man, that's all I'm saying.

I don't read all your posts obviously.

I will never feel mogged by ....

An ethnic male. No matter what. He can stand half a foot taller, 3 digits richer, more muscular with higher PSL face and it wouldn't matter one lick to me. I will always feel like I have something over him by virtue of my blue eyed, browned haired waspness. knowing that there are many girls...

looksmax.org

Read lol.

I'm fully aware that there are ethnics taller, wider, stronger and richer than I, that will not get what I get.

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

I'm not surprised.

He is right in that he is high-trust boyfriend LTR material looking and likely wines and dines these chicks before getting into bed with them + he is white and they are very likely all mostly ethnic or asian + they are LTB going on the girl he's posted here.

Nothing wrong with that but he isn't mentioning the race element which is very prevalent here.

Well if that’s what works for him then why not do it?

He looks MTN and says he has gymcel halo- combine that with NT pics it’s not hard to see how you can get a handful of dates with average ish ethnic grls.

All this online dating being chad only is such a LTN cope

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

I didn't say I was, but MTN and high trust + NT is enough lol.

This is the point, the autistic standards of lookism would have you believe that @Br0sk1 is slyaing left and right.

No one would have believed that @Niko69 has 20 k matches, he's at best chadlite, but more like an HTN.

It is absolutely enough if you are white and limiting yourself to ethnic or asian chicks, yes.

I am a millennial and I am not stupid enough to believe the autistic standards of Lookism that the BP community talk about given I've experienced much different as a HTN ethnic.

I understand and agree with you, only you seemed to be suggesting that you were HTN. My bad if I read you wrong.

I would believe he has 20k matches, I likened him to a young DiCaprio only a week ago.

He has race, pheno, averageness, wide eyes, hair halo, low-set brows.

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

I will never feel mogged by ....

An ethnic male. No matter what. He can stand half a foot taller, 3 digits richer, more muscular with higher PSL face and it wouldn't matter one lick to me. I will always feel like I have something over him by virtue of my blue eyed, browned haired waspness. knowing that there are many girls...

looksmax.org

Read lol.

I'm fully aware that there are ethnics taller, wider, stronger and richer than I, that will not get what I get.

Um no. A HTN ethnic that's tall & wide framed will definitey still beat you as long he is NT if this is what you are referring to. You must be joking yourself mate.

She is a clean 4/10 pump and dump for any self-respecting normie that wasn't a cuck beta nice guy

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Well if that’s what works for him then why not do it?

He looks MTN and says he has gymcel halo- combine that with NT pics it’s not hard to see how you can get a handful of dates with average ish ethnic grls.

All this online dating being chad only is such a LTN cope

You just said you were surprised and now pretending like you were never surprised, after reading what I said about ethnics and asians going for mediocre looking white blokes that don't make them anxious and they can have intellectual conversation with

You changed your tune real quick bro

Bit disingenuous

 

[Ziggy S]

A couple of things, you'll have to take my words because I'm not going to upload all my pics and I'm about to remove that one I allready posted.

1) I probably have MTN face, however it's a high trust face.

2) I'm also just a bit under 6'1 and gym celled, so probs HTN overall

3) I'm NT and use NT pics

4) I don't have to always go for ethnics although the ethnic in the picture is LTB with body halo.

5) I don't have to wine and dine ethnic beckies, even if they are htb, they honestly give it away for free and easily.

6) it is rarer for me to slay slim white chicks however, I've ltred slim white chicks exclusively..

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

A couple of things, you'll have to take my words because I'm not going to upload all my pics and I'm about to remove that one I allready posted.

1) I probably have MTN face, however it's a high trust face.

2) I'm also just a bit under 6'1 and gym celled, so probs HTN overall

3) I'm NT and use NT pics

4) I don't have to always go for ethnics although the ethnic in the picture is LTB with body halo.

5) I don't have to wine and dine ethnic beckies, even if they are htb, they honestly give it away for free and easily.

6) it is rarer for me to slay slim white chicks however, I've ltred slim white chicks exclusively..

Is lens distortion hurting you? Thats all I wanna know. Yes or no?

 

[Ziggy S]

Is lens distortion hurting you? Thats all I wanna know. Yes or no?

nope, that's my face lol.

 

[Ziggy S]

I'm suffering from some lens distortion in the pic above

Also I'm next to a white chick here lol (most recent ltr)

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

nope, that's my face lol.

Then America is even more sexually liberated than I experienced now than when I went there (2 slays

No you lack sexual dimorphism, you are not HTN in terms of sex-appeal even if 6ft.

My perception is you are capping. Mediocre white guys with low dimorphism do not slay their own race without wining and dining in the swipe app generation. If that isn't dimorphism then you get nothing but LT and MTB ethnics/asians. I am certain of it.

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

I'm suffering from some lens distortion in the pic above

Also I'm next to a white chick here lol (most recent ltr)

You just said you were not suffering from lens distortion and now post a better photo.

Now I believe you. Yes you are HTN.

 

[Ziggy S]

My perception is you are capping. Mediocre white guys with low dimorphism do not slay their own race without wining and dining in the swipe app generation.

lmao, fucking interface with the things I'm saying lol :

6) it is rarer for me to slay slim white chicks however, I've ltred slim white chicks exclusively..

However, I have had ONS with white chicks before who were decent looking, it just isn't something I can rely on.

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

I'm suffering from some lens distortion in the pic above

Also I'm next to a white chick here lol (most recent ltr)

you look much better there- tbh the first smiling pic was pretty bad

 

[Ziggy S]

you look much better there- tbh the first smiling pic was pretty bad

I'm relatively recessed in both pics tbh (and do suffer an overbite IRL) , however, this was the point I was making.

High trust looks wins. @6ft4 and @Br0sk1 have things I do not, whether it be top tier hieght or an actual jawline.

My experience with foids, even in the UK south, moggs theirs.

There is a reason for that, and it's NT + high trust.

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

I'm relatively recessed in both pics tbh (and do suffer an overbite IRL) , however, this was the point I was making.

High trust looks wins. @6ft4 and @Br0sk1 have things I do not, whether it be top tier hieght or an actual jawline.

My experience with foids, even in the UK south, moggs theirs.

There is a reason for that, and it's NT + high trust.

Im starting to think this UK hypergmay thing is just a completle meme- everyone cries about it but then when people share their pics every normie is slaying normie girls by their own admission lol- so not sure exactly what the issue is

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

I'm relatively recessed in both pics tbh (and do suffer an overbite IRL) , however, this was the point I was making.

High trust looks wins. @6ft4 and @Br0sk1 have things I do not, whether it be top tier hieght or an actual jawline.

My experience with foids, even in the UK south, moggs theirs.

I agree high trust looks better the more average looking you are and the inverse the more good looking you are.

You still have an infantile lower-third but it's harmonious enough to make the cut. You are high in facial averageness. Your face looks sociable, so as long as you are congruent with that in your personality, you will get success with ethnics/asians and LTRs with mid white bitches.

 

[Ziggy S]

You still have an infantile lower-third

I'm starting to think you're a low IQ retard lol

You literally quoted the post where I admitted I have no jawline.

@

@6ft4 and @

@Br0sk1 have things I do not, whether it be top tier hieght or an actual jawline.

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Im starting to think this UK hypergmay thing is just a completle meme- everyone cries about it but then when people share their pics every normie is slaying normie girls by their own admission lol- so not sure exactly what the issue is

UK is difficult but not for hypergamy reasons.

It's to do with cultural. The UK girls are less sexually liberated and slutty than American + their personalities are more reserved/uptight etc as the UK is an introverted nation for the large part.

Social circles in the UK are paramount. You need social proof. You can't just be NT. (MTN & HTN)

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

I'm starting to think you're a low IQ retard lol

You literally quoted the post where I admitted I have no jawline.

Bro honestly, I am flipping between posting on here and working out lol, that's why

I skim-read posts. My bad.

I am refreshing this page inbetween sets LMAO

 

[Ziggy S]

Also I'm 28, fraud to 23 online tho.

 

[Germania]

On top, for most of those guys who have gfs, it would be over for them on online dating. Online dating is retarded but its all you have when you are a social circle cel

Thing is, these guys might have had a teenage girlfriend + the one they met through their social circle and almost zero ONS. When the relationship with the girlfriend from the social circle is over, they're fucked for many many years, I see it so often irl. A good friend of mine has been a complete incel for about 7 years i guess, after his social circle girlfriend left him.

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Also I'm 28, fraud to 23 online tho.

That's the backhanded benefit of having weak dimorphism, as long as you can produce the skin collagen.

 

[Ziggy S]

That's the backhanded benefit of having weak dimorphism, as long as you can produce collagen.

Finasteride is just about holding me together.

May have to go for Dut.

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Finasteride is just about holding me together.

May have to go for Dut.

Oh that's why you are here.

You drew the below average hair gene.

The one area I am Chad in lol