I am so blackpilled on education and social class now

[Seth Walsh]

That epiphanic moment when you realise education, social class and private property are the main factors behind happy, pure families.

Not religion, not politics, not performative "strait-lacedness".




Here's the truth.

Committing to a demanding, high-status degree creates such a steep opportunity cost that aimless detours become unaffordable (i.e., derailment, "slaying", NEETing etc), and when paired with the financial cushion of a property-owning background and the oversight of supportive kin, it enforces discipline, prudence, and sexual selectivity.


Layered onto that is the advantage of an upscale, property-owning neighborhood—where inheritance expectations, private-property stakes, and visible markers of social class set clear long-term goals—and the constant engagement of parents, cousins and siblings. Together, these forces supply both the financial cushion and the ever-present social oversight that channel effort into disciplined study, prudent life choices and heightened sexual selectivity.



SOCIAL CLASS AREA PILL ITT

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The most chaste women are typically those of very high social class. Strong family, high career expectations, studious, high social class family home area. There's no correlation with them being physically hot or not. But the truth lies in generational wealth and area of upbringing; rather than in some cope like religiosity, with area of upbringing and education being ignored.

The usefulness of a college degree will also influence the sexual selectivity of a woman. Social, socioeconomic, practical and genetic factors all play into this.


I'd argue that a chick with a liberal arts degree from a very well connected family and from a high social class area, will be less promiscuous than any other girl, or guy from a lower socioeconomic class, in the same situation.


I am starting to believe that a lot of the blackpill is class issues, stability, the social class of your postcode (will affect who you engage with to a huge degree).

It's a lot less than "muh looks" imo.

I believe slaying is a low social class activity, for all involved. Happy to debate.

 

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will read later

 

[Seth Walsh]

TLDR for ADHDcels.

1. Socioeconomic & cultural capital: Growing up in a stable, property-owning milieu embeds long-term goals (inheritance narratives, neighborhood norms) as default mindsets.

2. Early socialization: Consistent, future-oriented parenting (secure attachment, clear expectations) sculpts a child’s habit of weighing costs and benefits.

3. Institutional reinforcement: Schools, sports teams and religious or community groups that reward delayed gratification amplify and legitimize prudent behavior.

4. Peer & role-model influence: Surrounding yourself with disciplined peers and exemplars (siblings, cousins, mentors) creates a feedback loop of accountability and aspiration. (i.e., competitiveness in achieving high grades in school... and the communal pressure to "achieve"). *School achievement is acting as a primer for non-degeneracy more so than actually teaching the material matter of fact* The conscientious get rewarded, but social class, area of residence and family strength REALLY MATTERS)

5. Innate temperament & neurobiology: Individuals with higher baseline conscientiousness and stronger executive-function (impulse control, working memory) naturally plan ahead.

• High-stakes training: A demanding, high-status degree (medicine, law, finance) locks in years of structured work, so every flirtation or fling risks tangible career setbacks.
• Property & inheritance: Growing up in a property-owning family with clear inheritance expectations makes the loss from reputational missteps very real—private-property stakes become social-status stakes.
• Class‐area norms: Upscale neighborhoods signal success pathways; local peer culture leans toward long-term planning and views early childbearing or scandal as derailments.
• Kin engagement: Constant check-ins from parents, siblings and cousins don’t just provide support—they enforce accountability and model prudent choices.
• Peer reinforcement: Being surrounded by equally driven, selective peers creates a feedback loop—everyone’s too busy (and wary) to risk reputational or emotional fallout.
• Personal temperament: Those with strong impulse control and future-orientation gravitate toward this ecosystem—and it, in turn, amplifies their natural prudeness.

 

[CorinthianLOX]

That epiphanic moment when you realise education, social class and private property are the main factors behind happy, pure families.

Not religion, not politics, not performative "strait-lacedness".




Here's the truth.

Committing to a demanding, high-status degree creates such a steep opportunity cost that aimless detours become unaffordable (i.e., derailment, "slaying", NEETing etc), and when paired with the financial cushion of a property-owning background and the oversight of supportive kin, it enforces discipline, prudence, and sexual selectivity.


Layered onto that is the advantage of an upscale, property-owning neighborhood—where inheritance expectations, private-property stakes, and visible markers of social class set clear long-term goals—and the constant engagement of parents, cousins and siblings. Together, these forces supply both the financial cushion and the ever-present social oversight that channel effort into disciplined study, prudent life choices and heightened sexual selectivity.



SOCIAL CLASS AREA PILL ITT

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The most chaste women are typically those of very high social class. Strong family, high career expectations, studious, high social class family home area. There's no correlation with them being physically hot or not. But the truth lies in generational wealth and area of upbringing; rather than in some cope like religiosity, with area of upbringing and education being ignored.

The usefulness of a college degree will also influence the sexual selectivity of a woman. Social, socioeconomic, practical and genetic factors all play into this.


I'd argue that a chick with a liberal arts degree from a very well connected family and from a high social class area, will be less promiscuous than any other girl, or guy from a lower socioeconomic class, in the same situation.


I am starting to believe that a lot of the blackpill is class issues, stability, the social class of your postcode (will affect who you engage with to a huge degree).

It's a lot less than "muh looks" imo.

I believe slaying is a low social class activity, for all involved. Happy to debate.

Water

 

[Seth Walsh]

Basically. Private property ownership does more for familial venerability than religiousness or right-wing ideology. It is a brutal truth.

 

[Depresso]

That epiphanic moment when you realise education, social class and private property are the main factors behind happy, pure families.

Not religion, not politics, not performative "strait-lacedness".




Here's the truth.

Committing to a demanding, high-status degree creates such a steep opportunity cost that aimless detours become unaffordable (i.e., derailment, "slaying", NEETing etc), and when paired with the financial cushion of a property-owning background and the oversight of supportive kin, it enforces discipline, prudence, and sexual selectivity.


Layered onto that is the advantage of an upscale, property-owning neighborhood—where inheritance expectations, private-property stakes, and visible markers of social class set clear long-term goals—and the constant engagement of parents, cousins and siblings. Together, these forces supply both the financial cushion and the ever-present social oversight that channel effort into disciplined study, prudent life choices and heightened sexual selectivity.



SOCIAL CLASS AREA PILL ITT

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The most chaste women are typically those of very high social class. Strong family, high career expectations, studious, high social class family home area. There's no correlation with them being physically hot or not. But the truth lies in generational wealth and area of upbringing; rather than in some cope like religiosity, with area of upbringing and education being ignored.

The usefulness of a college degree will also influence the sexual selectivity of a woman. Social, socioeconomic, practical and genetic factors all play into this.


I'd argue that a chick with a liberal arts degree from a very well connected family and from a high social class area, will be less promiscuous than any other girl, or guy from a lower socioeconomic class, in the same situation.


I am starting to believe that a lot of the blackpill is class issues, stability, the social class of your postcode (will affect who you engage with to a huge degree).

It's a lot less than "muh looks" imo.

I believe slaying is a low social class activity, for all involved. Happy to debate.

Growing up... the extreme pill version

 

[Depresso]

Part of it is also avoiding envy cause class is built over generations

 

[Seth Walsh]

Basically. Private property ownership does more for familial venerability than religiousness or right-wing ideology. It is a brutal truth.

The higher the socioeconomic class of the residence and surrounding estates, schools, districts - the stronger the selectiveness will be (for both genders) in short and long term relationships. The stakes are just higher.

This leads nicely into the theory of why "slaying" is a low social class activity.

 

[thereallegend]

TLDR for ADHDcels.

1. Socioeconomic & cultural capital: Growing up in a stable, property-owning milieu embeds long-term goals (inheritance narratives, neighborhood norms) as default mindsets.

2. Early socialization: Consistent, future-oriented parenting (secure attachment, clear expectations) sculpts a child’s habit of weighing costs and benefits.

3. Institutional reinforcement: Schools, sports teams and religious or community groups that reward delayed gratification amplify and legitimize prudent behavior.

4. Peer & role-model influence: Surrounding yourself with disciplined peers and exemplars (siblings, cousins, mentors) creates a feedback loop of accountability and aspiration. (i.e., competitiveness in achieving high grades in school... and the communal pressure to "achieve"). *School achievement is acting as a primer for non-degeneracy more so than actually teaching the material matter of fact* The conscientious get rewarded, but social class, area of residence and family strength REALLY MATTERS)

5. Innate temperament & neurobiology: Individuals with higher baseline conscientiousness and stronger executive-function (impulse control, working memory) naturally plan ahead.

• High-stakes training: A demanding, high-status degree (medicine, law, finance) locks in years of structured work, so every flirtation or fling risks tangible career setbacks.
• Property & inheritance: Growing up in a property-owning family with clear inheritance expectations makes the loss from reputational missteps very real—private-property stakes become social-status stakes.
• Class‐area norms: Upscale neighborhoods signal success pathways; local peer culture leans toward long-term planning and views early childbearing or scandal as derailments.
• Kin engagement: Constant check-ins from parents, siblings and cousins don’t just provide support—they enforce accountability and model prudent choices.
• Peer reinforcement: Being surrounded by equally driven, selective peers creates a feedback loop—everyone’s too busy (and wary) to risk reputational or emotional fallout.
• Personal temperament: Those with strong impulse control and future-orientation gravitate toward this ecosystem—and it, in turn, amplifies their natural prudeness.

That wasn’t a TL;DR at all.
There’s also a finance youtubter that talks of this stuff too.

 

[albanianblackguy]

never even began, i will never own a house

 

[Seth Walsh]

Part of it is also avoiding envy cause class is built over generations

Brutal.

People blame politics, religion, race.

If you want to look at the end result. Look at neighbourhood, alumni, family.

Then just work backwards from there. Wealth and status are the main things.

Yet there are centimillionaire celebrities with high status like Connor McGregor who won't and cannot physically be accepted out of the lower class. So there's a genetic threshold to it, where money and status can't even overcome it.

You are right. Social class maxxing is built over generations. But it is built by generations of people being honest, non-mischievous, forward looking, and wanting the best for their kin. Any immoral behaviour is self-regulated out.

 

[Seth Walsh]

That wasn’t a TL;DR at all.
There’s also a finance youtubter that talks of this stuff too.

Who's that?

 

[thereallegend]

Who's that?

Finance with Nick?

 

[Alias!]

That epiphanic moment when you realise education, social class and private property are the main factors behind happy, pure families.

Not religion, not politics, not performative "strait-lacedness".




Here's the truth.

Committing to a demanding, high-status degree creates such a steep opportunity cost that aimless detours become unaffordable (i.e., derailment, "slaying", NEETing etc), and when paired with the financial cushion of a property-owning background and the oversight of supportive kin, it enforces discipline, prudence, and sexual selectivity.


Layered onto that is the advantage of an upscale, property-owning neighborhood—where inheritance expectations, private-property stakes, and visible markers of social class set clear long-term goals—and the constant engagement of parents, cousins and siblings. Together, these forces supply both the financial cushion and the ever-present social oversight that channel effort into disciplined study, prudent life choices and heightened sexual selectivity.



SOCIAL CLASS AREA PILL ITT

View attachment 3677157


VS

View attachment 3677163



The most chaste women are typically those of very high social class. Strong family, high career expectations, studious, high social class family home area. There's no correlation with them being physically hot or not. But the truth lies in generational wealth and area of upbringing; rather than in some cope like religiosity, with area of upbringing and education being ignored.

The usefulness of a college degree will also influence the sexual selectivity of a woman. Social, socioeconomic, practical and genetic factors all play into this.


I'd argue that a chick with a liberal arts degree from a very well connected family and from a high social class area, will be less promiscuous than any other girl, or guy from a lower socioeconomic class, in the same situation.


I am starting to believe that a lot of the blackpill is class issues, stability, the social class of your postcode (will affect who you engage with to a huge degree).

It's a lot less than "muh looks" imo.

I believe slaying is a low social class activity, for all involved. Happy to debate.

You best quality ltrs are for high class people or high class phenos

 

[Alias!]

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never even began, i will never own a house

Atleast we can share a 1 bedroom together

 

[Sonneillon]

Atleast we can share a 1 bedroom together

Why ppl never say this to mee but just call me fag

 

[Alias!]

Why ppl never say this to mee but just call me fag

Do you want to sleep in the bathtub in the apartment?

 

[Seth Walsh]

You best quality ltrs are for high class people or high class phenos

Of course.

That's why slaying is a deflection and cope. Who wants to get into failed relationships, repeatedly, just to end up building nothing emotionally and ending up lonely.

"Slaying" is like "smoking cigarettes". Both eventually kill you, and when you get started, you know you're just coping and giving into impulses.

"Slaying" after college years should be banned.

There is nothing like the feeling of getting a high class LTR with a woman who's funny, intelligent, has depth, complexity, has her own opinions, is responsible, ambitious, kind etc...

People will call me a cuck but I'm really just calling out the megacopers. I'll say it again. Most of this is a class issue. Pretty much everything can be chalked down to biology, intelligence, personality/character and economics in some way.

People will cope in all sorts of ways. But the slaying cope is the funniest one. And the guys who cope with "slaying" - don't even slay. They just LARP it.

But there's nothing more brutal than being in your early 30s with nothing meaningful, so you decide to hit up Thailand or Columbia. Just brutal.

 

[Alias!]

Of course.

That's why slaying is a deflection and cope. Who wants to get into failed relationships, repeatedly, just to end up building nothing emotionally and ending up lonely.

"Slaying" is like "smoking cigarettes". Both eventually kill you, and when you get started, you know you're just coping and giving into impulses.

"Slaying" after college years should be banned.

There is nothing like the feeling of getting a high class LTR with a woman who's funny, intelligent, has depth, complexity, has her own opinions, is responsible, ambitious, kind etc...

People will call me a cuck but I'm really just calling out the megacopers. I'll say it again. Most of this is a class issue. Pretty much everything can be chalked down to biology, intelligence, personality/character and economics in some way.

People will cope in all sorts of ways. But the slaying cope is the funniest one. And the guys who cope with "slaying" - don't even slay. They just LARP it.

But there's nothing more brutal than being in your early 30s with nothing meaningful, so you decide to hit up Thailand or Columbia. Just brutal.

This is so true all the high class people I’ve been around just meet thru social circles and good environments . And ltr

While all the low class people just cope with slaying and tell themselves they are better than others for getting more women to sleep with them . And going to clubs/bars weekly.

Social class is so brutal because the social class your born in your most likely going to die in. And if your at the bottom class the environments are always bad

 

[Seth Walsh]

This is so true all the high class people I’ve been around just meet thru social circles and good environments . And ltr

While all the low class people just cope with slaying and tell themselves they are better than others for getting more women to sleep with them . And going to clubs/bars weekly.

Social class is so brutal because the social class your born in your most likely going to die in. And if your at the bottom class the environments are always bad

What we also need to keep in mind is the conduciveness of LTRs and marriage as a stable structure to raise children (along with money for a house in a safe neighbourhood, with money for food and education).

The smart people who aren't high class, LTR and make the best of their situation, have kids, and aim to provide them a better life with more opportunity. But it takes two people with long term goals that align.

The aging bachelor who copes, is brutal.

 

[Alias!]

What we also need to keep in mind is the conduciveness of LTRs and marriage as a stable structure to raise children (along with money for a house in a safe neighbourhood, with money for food and education).

The smart people who aren't high class, LTR and make the best of their situation, have kids, and aim to provide them a better life with more opportunity. But it takes two people with long term goals that align.

The aging bachelor who copes, is brutal.

while the loving family tries there best to help their family during hard times , the aging bachelor will be in MGTOW chats coping and deluding himself

 

[thereallegend]

while the loving family tries there best to help their family during hard times , the aging bachelor will be in MGTOW chats coping and deluding himself

People need to point this out more

 

[Cleetus Cornfield]

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