I apologize for being black

[Deleted member 16134]

It's nice that you have finally Regonized your Subhumnity but there is still a lot of work to be done
@Blackgymmax

 

[disillusioned]

Im so sorry my white masters

Apology not accepted. Go back to the fields slave.

 

[Deleted member 756]

Apology not accepted. Go back to the fields slave.

Ok sir

 

[Deleted member 13787]

Most blue eyed Turks are of Balkan descent right? Actual Turks look like me and @Haven

yeah there are lots of gypsy and arab types in turkey but i dont consider those to be the perfect representation of turks, haven is what real turks look like
blue eyed turks almost definitely have either balkan or ukrainian ancestry, from when the ottoman empire owned a piece of ukraine on the black sea coast, lots of women were brought from there to breed with turks
but bulgarians tend to be way whiter, the 30 or so % of bulgarians which are actually white are superior to me, they have light brown hair, pale nordic skin and light eyes, sometimes even blonde hair

 

[Deleted member 756]

yeah there are lots of gypsy and arab types in turkey but i dont consider those to be the perfect representation of turks, haven is what real turks look like
blue eyed turks almost definitely have either balkan or ukrainian ancestry, from when the ottoman empire owned a piece of ukraine on the black sea coast, lots of women were brought from there to breed with turks
but bulgarians tend to be way whiter, the 30 or so % of bulgarians which are actually white are superior to me, they have light brown hair, pale nordic skin and light eyes, sometimes even blonde hair

Indeed
And tbh real Turks shouldn’t even be Muslim but should be Tengric pagans

 

[Deleted member 13787]

Indeed
And tbh real Turks shouldn’t even be Muslim but should be Tengric pagans

bulgars were tengrics too
but modern bulgarians have nothing in common

 

[turkproducer]

It’s like using a light skin Tyrone as representative of all blacks

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His father moved to turkey from Albania when he was young

anyways white men are superior
Sadly most Turks are white therefore I don’t worship them

if you’re not white it doesn’t matter where you are on the pecking order. Anyways I’m 80 percent white so… still ethnic therefore inferior to white men

lots of turks used to live in balkans and still do

50% heritage from across the world is way different than turks being naturally mixed

you are not 80% white with those eyes

Most blue eyed Turks are of Balkan descent right? Actual Turks look like me and @Haven

no they don’t have as gooky eyes as you on
average

haven is a clown, literally 10% central asian and claims turanid mongol lol

 

[turkproducer]

Indeed
And tbh real Turks shouldn’t even be Muslim but should be Tengric pagans

5% turkic theory

 

[Deleted member 756]

bulgars were tengrics too
but modern bulgarians have nothing in common

Bulgarians are basically a mix of Illyrian, Slavic, some Turkish and Greek

 

[Deleted member 13787]

Bulgarians are basically a mix of Illyrian, Slavic, some Turkish and Greek

yes the more slavic and illyrian ones are white
im mostly greek in ancestory although i dont look greek at all

 

[Deleted member 756]

lots of turks used to live in balkans and still do

50% heritage from across the world is way different than turks being naturally mixed

you are not 80% white with those eyes

no they don’t have as gooky eyes as you on
average

haven is a clown, literally 10% central asian and claims turanid mongol lol

I’m 80 percent white regardless of how you feel
Phenotype isn’t the same as genotype
And you yourself say you have slight Asian eyes
Problem?
@Haven is a true Turk and proud of it

 

[Deleted member 756]

5% turkic theory

Turkic culture is very interesting and fascinating but yeah it’s inferior to white culture
I am a turanid

 

[Deleted member 5802]

yeah

but the pic you posted was of the Moors, and the Moors are 90%+ berber and it’s cringe when blacks claim Moors or Egyptian empire

You tell me bro

look up the word maurus

14 century painting

 

[Deleted member 756]

yes the more slavic and illyrian ones are white
im mostly greek in ancestory although i dont look greek at all

I see
Do you identify as Greek?

 

[Deleted member 756]

You tell me bro
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look up the word maurus

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14 century painting

Ignore him
He hates blacks

 

[turkproducer]

I’m 80 percent white regardless of how you feel
Phenotype isn’t the same as genotype
And you yourself say you have slight Asian eyes
Problem?
@Haven is a true Turk and proud of it

DNA test or larp

And no I do not have Asian eyes since I have a nose bridge

 

[Deleted member 756]

DNA test or larp

And no I do not have Asian eyes since I have a nose bridge

I don’t have to prove anything to you
Proof or larp on your part

 

[turkproducer]

You tell me bro
View attachment 1421095
look up the word maurus

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14 century painting

Moor rulers and majority of the population were Berber

Obscure examples don’t prove anything and Moors didn’t exist when photographs became a thing

Claim your own history and not others

I don’t have to prove anything to you
Proof or larp on your part

Genghis Khan. You are rather untrustworthy

 

[Deleted member 13787]

I see
Do you identify as Greek?

more of a macedonian type of greek
my grandma from my mother's side's parents were from a greek village which used to be in bulgarian territory but is now greek territory
and my grandpa from my mom's side is from a macedonian region of bulgaria
but none of them look greek at all, my grandma had curly blonde hair and blue eyes
my mom is white in my opinion
but my dad doesnt look white, i have no idea what his phenotype is but im suspecting he has turkish ancestry
well i ended up looking mostly like him so im not white

 

[Deleted member 756]

Moor rulers and majority of the population were Berber

Obscure examples don’t prove anything and Moors didn’t exist when photographs became a thing

Claim your own history and not others

Genghis Khan. You are rather untrustworthy

Yet I have a 9 inch BWC

I am so glad the Asian/Turkic blood didn’t go there

 

[Deleted member 756]

more of a macedonian type of greek
my grandma from my mother's side's parents were from a greek village which used to be in bulgarian territory but is now greek territory
and my grandpa from my mom's side is from a macedonian region of bulgaria
but none of them look greek at all, my grandma had curly blonde hair and blue eyes
my mom is white in my opinion
but my dad doesnt look white, i have no idea what his phenotype is but im suspecting he has turkish ancestry
well i ended up looking mostly like him so im not white

Nice

can you speak Greek?

 

[Deleted member 13787]

Nice

can you speak Greek?

not at all, none of my family were greeks, its just that ethnically they were greek, but not culturally or phenotypically

 

[Deleted member 756]

not at all, none of my family were greeks, its just that ethnically they were greek, but not culturally or phenotypically

Greek culture is very interesting
You should be proud

 

[Beetlejuice]

Mirin

 

[Deleted member 5802]

Moor rulers and majority of the population were Berber

Obscure examples don’t prove anything and Moors didn’t exist when photographs became a thing

Claim your own history and not others

Genghis Khan. You are rather untrustworthy

Notice how the word moor was used interchangeably to refer blacks here’s where your wrong
The following quote also disproves the notion that Moor was simply a religious identifier/label for muslims. The word Moor was consistently associated with blackness since antiquity.

And between Egypt and Nubia it hath well a twelve journeys of desert. And men of Nubia be Christian, but they be black as the Moors for great heat of the sun.

-- 14th century, Travels of Sir John Mandeville

Black muslims known as a Moors were very influential during the Islamic era of Spain in many cases they subverted the Arab-Spanish elite. This is how the Almoravids and Almohad dynasties came to rule Spain for brief moments. In other moments they were there to support the Iberian muslims in battle against the Christians. See the medieval manuscript depiction of the Battle of Teba.



There were also Moors that converted to Christianity who subverted Islamic rule like the famous Anti-Umayyad rebel Umar ibn Hafsun. A contemporary muslim poet referred to him as a sawada (black African descendant). Sawada/Aswad was like the muslim equivalent of Moor used to refer to blacks in Spain.

Anyhow Umar ibn Hasfun might have been of mixed origin but nonetheless was a ruler in Spain who was said to have over 70 castles with the ruins of his church in Bobastro, Spain.

There’s simply too much evidence for the existence of black moors. Moor is a European term and the people who ruled Spain made up of Berbers, Arabs and black Africans. I don’t understand why people want to deny the sub Saharan African involvement despite plenty of proof

 

[turkproducer]

Notice how the word moor was used interchangeably to refer blacks here’s where your wrong
The following quote also disproves the notion that Moor was simply a religious identifier/label for muslims. The word Moor was consistently associated with blackness since antiquity.


-- 14th century, Travels of Sir John Mandeville

Black muslims known as a Moors were very influential during the Islamic era of Spain in many cases they subverted the Arab-Spanish elite. This is how the Almoravids and Almohad dynasties came to rule Spain for brief moments. In other moments they were there to support the Iberian muslims in battle against the Christians. See the medieval manuscript depiction of the Battle of Teba.



There were also Moors that converted to Christianity who subverted Islamic rule like the famous Anti-Umayyad rebel Umar ibn Hafsun. A contemporary muslim poet referred to him as a sawada (black African descendant). Sawada/Aswad was like the muslim equivalent of Moor used to refer to blacks in Spain.

Anyhow Umar ibn Hasfun might have been of mixed origin but nonetheless was a ruler in Spain who was said to have over 70 castles with the ruins of his church in Bobastro, Spain.
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There’s simply too much evidence for the existence of black moors. Moor is a European term and the people who ruled Spain made up of Berbers, Arabs and black Africans. I don’t understand why people want to deny the sub Saharan African involvement despite plenty of proof

lol only after the 17th century were Moors depicted as black by Europeans, and that’s interestingly when the slave trade started to flourish perhaps they were trying to demonise blacks to justify slavery

Being described as “dark” =/= black

Most blacks were either slaves or soldiers when we talk about the Moors. It’s the same logic if you try to claim Ottoman empire was Bosnian because a few Sultans were mixed or some of the janissaries were Bosnian

pretty much every Moor man of any status had a Berber/Arab Islamic name and phenotype

anyway i really don’t wanna debate some obscure empire and ethnicities with a wewuzzer, claim Mali empire, that’s yours

 

[Haven]

Most blue eyed Turks are of Balkan descent right? Actual Turks look like me and @Haven

It changes turanids can have blue eyes too

 

[Deleted member 5802]

lol only after the 17th century were Moors depicted as black by Europeans, and that’s interestingly when the slave trade started to flourish perhaps they were trying to demonise blacks to justify slavery

Being described as “dark” =/= black

Most blacks were either slaves or soldiers when we talk about the Moors. It’s the same logic if you try to claim Ottoman empire was Bosnian because a few Sultans were mixed or some of the janissaries were Bosnian

pretty much every Moor man of any status had a Berber/Arab Islamic name and phenotype

anyway i really don’t wanna debate some obscure empire and ethnicities with a wewuzzer, claim Mali empire, that’s yours

Those paintings I sent to you predate the slave trade. Most of the. Where in the 13th-15th century your seriously coping. I said the moors made up of Berbers, Arabs and blacks

the statue pretty much answer the question of the identity of the moors

Monument of the Four Moors - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Haven]

Nope because they’re still all white ethnicities and thus superior to ethnics

most people don’t see Turks as Nordic like him stop coping

@Haven is closer to the average Turkish pheno than him.

White men are superior
If you don’t like it then leave Britain

I dont have avrage turk pheno his pheno is common as my pheno and stop this shit whites are slave of turkic people

 

[Jagged0]

The Almoravid dynasty (Arabic: المرابطون‎, romanized: Al-Murābiṭūn, lit. 'those from the ribats'[7]) was an imperial Berber Muslim dynastycentered in Morocco.[8][9] It established an empire in the 11th century that stretched over the western Maghreb and Al-Andalus. Founded by Abu Bakr ibn Umar, the Almoravid capital was Marrakesh, a city the ruling house founded circa 1070. The dynasty originated among the Lamtuna and the Gudala, nomadic Berber tribes of the Western Sahara, traversing the territory between the Draa, the Niger, and the Senegal rivers.[10][11]

Almoravid dynasty المرابطون, Al-Murābiṭūn
1040–1147

The moors did have a black dynasty in the form of converts due to an Islamic scholar displeased with the elites in Spain that didn’t follow proper Islam but again applying race on ancient people is retarded as they didn’t see it in our lens it was more culture religion that they cared about.

lol only after the 17th century were Moors depicted as black by Europeans, and that’s interestingly when the slave trade started to flourish perhaps they were trying to demonise blacks to justify slavery

Being described as “dark” =/= black

Most blacks were either slaves or soldiers when we talk about the Moors. It’s the same logic if you try to claim Ottoman empire was Bosnian because a few Sultans were mixed or some of the janissaries were Bosnian

pretty much every Moor man of any status had a Berber/Arab Islamic name and phenotype

anyway i really don’t wanna debate some obscure empire and ethnicities with a wewuzzer, claim Mali empire, that’s yours

 

[turkproducer]

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The Almoravid dynasty (Arabic: المرابطون‎, romanized: Al-Murābiṭūn, lit. 'those from the ribats'[7]) was an imperial Berber Muslim dynastycentered in Morocco.[8][9] It established an empire in the 11th century that stretched over the western Maghreb and Al-Andalus. Founded by Abu Bakr ibn Umar, the Almoravid capital was Marrakesh, a city the ruling house founded circa 1070. The dynasty originated among the Lamtuna and the Gudala, nomadic Berber tribes of the Western Sahara, traversing the territory between the Draa, the Niger, and the Senegal rivers.[10][11]

Almoravid dynasty المرابطون, Al-Murābiṭūn
1040–1147

The moors did have a black dynasty in the form of converts due to an Islamic scholar displeased with the elites in Spain that didn’t follow proper Islam but again applying race on ancient people is retarded as they didn’t see it in our lens it was more culture religion that they cared about.

“Probable depiction of Almoravid general Abu Bakr, riding a camel with a whip of knotted cords, from the 1413 chart of Mecia de Viladestes.”

painting 400 years after he died

how could it be probable? it’s like claiming jesus was blonde and blue eyed

Those paintings I sent to you predate the slave trade. Most of the. Where in the 13th-15th century your seriously coping. I said the moors made up of Berbers, Arabs and blacks

the statue pretty much answer the question of the identity of the moors

Monument of the Four Moors - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

There is 0 reason I would be coping. I’m not Berber or Arab, I just find it funny how you claim history that is not yours

generally Blacks were slaves and soldiers in Moor society

the paintings you include are not contemporary. the ones i posted are



Read top answer and let’s stop talking about this autistic nerd shit

 

[Jagged0]

“Probable depiction of Almoravid general Abu Bakr, riding a camel with a whip of knotted cords, from the 1413 chart of Mecia de Viladestes.”

painting 400 years after he died

how could it be probable? it’s like claiming jesus was blonde and blue eyed

There is 0 reason I would be coping. I’m not Berber or Arab, I just find it funny how you claim history that is not yours

generally Blacks were slaves and soldiers in Moor society

the paintings you include are not contemporary. the ones i posted are



Read top answer and let’s stop talking about this autistic nerd shit

The region he's from is a region black Berbers live in today

 

[Deleted member 5802]

“Probable depiction of Almoravid general Abu Bakr, riding a camel with a whip of knotted cords, from the 1413 chart of Mecia de Viladestes.”

painting 400 years after he died

how could it be probable? it’s like claiming jesus was blonde and blue eyed

There is 0 reason I would be coping. I’m not Berber or Arab, I just find it funny how you claim history that is not yours

generally Blacks were slaves and soldiers in Moor society

the paintings you include are not contemporary. the ones i posted are



Read top answer and let’s stop talking about this autistic nerd shit

Dude these paintings are contemporary

Am actual Berber Moroccan agrees with me on here @masaka
The moors were Berbers, Arabs and black Africans end of story

 

[oldcelloser]

Its over bro
It was never meant to be

 

[5.5psl]

@mrriceguy