I can't get into consumerism.

That's one of the things you can do.

Again, I have no clue what stocks. If I knew, I'd be rich.
Because I remember some guy said he invested in some sort of crypto stock and made over 200k in 3 months, and another guy invested in Tesla stock and made over 100k. Another guy created a website where he gets paid thousands weekly for ad revenue.
 
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That's one of the things you can do.

Again, I have no clue what stocks. If I knew, I'd be rich.
Most people aren’t rich off stocks alone, typically they’re great at expanding wealth once you already have it.

The best hedge fund managers in the world return around 16% yearly. Options trading is maybe what you’re thinking of, where people can make thousands daily. The problem with options is the risk involved, its much higher compared to stocks but the return potential is also insane
 
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If I knew how to make money like these people I'm referring to do, I wouldn't even be here. I'd be on a yacht fucking some Russian escort or something. What do you plan on doing for a career?
Can't tell you to be precise because of whoever is reading, lets just say James Bond. So XXXX + Modelling + Art (compound motion, both require intense self-preservation and training for maximum outcome, art can have potentially the greatest financial rewards, insane yet brilliant how it's the one item that can be worth more than the homes themselves.) + finally paleontology, a childhood "what if" that I wish to make come true. Must feel so good being out in the wild with buddies digging away. Generally speaking fossils tend to be found in beautiful natural areas anyway. Yolo.

What about you?

It's not cope to think that tribesmen live simpler lives. Of course, lower cortisol is debatable because they are in danger of being eaten by lions and shit but they adapt. They aren't constantly in a state of fear because it is their version of normal. If they lived in a civilized society they'd probably have elevated cortisol for the first few years because it's all new to them. After a while, they'd adapt and they wouldn't worry.
Then that logic works vice versa. There life is similar to a warzone because of the mortality rate, the demand for your life in nature is high. And that's only one occurrence. There are classic carnivores that want you resourcefully but there are also other factors to take into consideration. Brute literal bull herbivores that are on the same level that will kill you for their protection. or pride jfl. Herbivores kill more than carnivores. You also have ambush/ campers big (crocodilians) or small (black mambas, pit vipers) as well as drought, fires, abstract nightmares such as ants/ bees, poisonous plants, diseases like cholera or fungi that you all have to be careful meanwhile you're on that timer clock to score your next meal before you go unconscious. 24/7/365.
You think the idea of having to work and pay bills wouldn't be the cortisol boosting equivalent of living in a mud hut and having to worry about getting eaten by a jaguar? They don't even worry about that shit. They are so tuned into their environment from years of living there that they don't worry about that shit till it happens. Of course, they take the necessary precautions to not have that happen, but if you think the Hadza are constantly turned on and scared of possible future occurrences, I disagree. It is the most basic form of living. I genuinely think living in the Hadza tribe would be less stressful then living in modern-day society. They look great, all have amazing teeth (the foundation of your face) and look like they don't give a fuck. I've seen videos of them smoking weed, too. They don't look like they give a fuck at all. I've seen videos of them where some of them have huge scars on their bodies, and they talk about a time they were attacked by some animal or something. Seems like they genuinely don't give a fuck. Modern living is stressing us out.
Let's see. It's a what if, grass-is-greener, shrodingers cat/ platos cave situation. Manosphere types talk about it yet ironically don't go out to do it.

Elite/special/secret soldiers have to learn to live in harsh environments for potential years. They are real men. The masters of nature and society. Jaguars are no joke and are pound-for-pound the strongest cat. By all means, it's time someone gives this lifestyle a try and report it back. In my opinion, it would inevitably make you revert cycle back to your current situation now in society but with more wisdom. It's how I could see it happening. The tribesmen, I don't know their average mortality rate but from what I gather they're similar to chimpanzees when it comes to strength and lifestyle taken the next step.
We have to worry about not having money to buy food. These people have to worry about running out of animals to hunt. I guess it's similar it just depends on what you'd rather do. Atleast the Hadza live like how human beings are supposed to live: off the land, running around catching their food with spears/bow & arrows, etc. "Civilized" society is so cucked. I'd rather live in fucking Africa chasing some fucking baboons or something. Of course I'm a fucking pale white dude from the US so I'd get tired after running for 1 minute but this is not supposed to be how human beings are we are supposed to have the stamina to run after animals and shit until they get tired and at that point we kill them and eat them.
Yes. It's cucked until you reach the top IMO or have every main need covered. Head screwed on etc but what do I know.. We're in the latest chapter of animal and nature evolution in the bigger picture.

Compared to some yeah, not at all though compared to most around me
Why? (@Xangsane)

my boy, I've been on over 50 first-dates in my life and never gotten further than a 3-month 'ltr' and a half-year situationship kinda thing.

It's easier to become a millionaire from rags, zero, than getting a girlfriend for me. I've already gotten close to a million once, and over the next decade I will likely succeed.

Dating on the other hand is impossible. Laziness has nothing to do with, neither complacency.
I've never referred to your effort when it comes to dates, approaches and outings. You've showed this clearly before. I've had the opposite fortune relationship-wise yet now need the career/ LMS path instead.

I didn't know about your millionairemaxxing efforts. I don't even know if you're still advancing in education or why/ how you're allowed to be in student dorms jfl, may I ask if you could enlighten me on them, please?

@forevergymcelling I don't believe that once you've made it in your ambition for financial freedom that you will want to quit grinding imo.
Our economy depends on women wasting money for unnecessary things
They've remained the same compounding slightly, it's the men that are changing big time.
 
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@forevergymcelling I don't believe that once you've made it in your ambition for financial freedom that you will want to quit grinding imo.
I would for a bit, maybe like 2 years at the very least so I can enjoy what's left of my twenties. But I don't think I could rot for my whole life

Hopefully I'll be able to find out one day
 
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Why? (@
Xangsane
@Xangsane)
My family isn’t poor by any means but not rich either. I went to a high school with tons of super rich kids (hard to explain why) and have been around extreme wealth my whole life despite not having it
 
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most of us on this forum will never have kids or a wife, I for sure won't
can't even manage to get a girlfriend for more than 3 months and I am almost 29yo.

Different lives/lifestyles, different options we have I suppose. But wage-slaving for materialism isn't one of the options I like.

I could see myself wage-slaving for future passive income though, but it would have to make a lot of sense, and be 3-4x median wage. or 3-4x less effort than people tend to do for a median wage.
Just pump n dump in a foreign country and sperm donor maxx

Then you can die knowing you passed on your genes
 
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My family isn’t poor by any means but not rich either. I went to a high school with tons of super rich kids (hard to explain why) and have been around extreme wealth my whole life despite not having it
Very similar to me.

Poor asf but always excelled in school, top1%, so went to the elite schools that only had rich kids.

Didnt help my social status either when everyone is wearing designer while in my cousins throw away clothing
 
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low IQ slav
 
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their lives are hollow and meaningless because they don't have looksmaxxes or surgeries planned for the future

srs
These make your life way worse while waiting for them

Not to mention most are fucking cope and stupid. But I want a genio and have been putting it off, but today I started thinking about it again and getting on edge because I was trying to find the time to get it

Life is so sweet when you're not thinking of surgeries
 
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Can you recommend me a music album? I need new music
Clarity by wasted penguinz or 10 years da tweekaz

Idgaf if u don't like hardstyle. You should
 
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These make your life way worse while waiting for them

Not to mention most are fucking cope and stupid. But I want a genio and have been putting it off, but today I started thinking about it again and getting on edge because I was trying to find the time to get it

Life is so sweet when you're not thinking of surgeries
huh? i thought of sui every day since second grade until i learned about looksmaxxing
 
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huh? i thought of sui every day since second grade until i learned about looksmaxxing
Once I stopped caring about surgeries and just use offtopic I'm a lot happier. I wanna get my genio out the way sometime
 
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Same foid from this topic I was talking to yesterday:

She works the same wage-slave job as me, same hourly-rate, but she works waaay more hours than me.

She was talking about how she is renting an apartment with her friend for over 2000euro/month. (I pay 350/month for student-dorm)
She was talking about saving up for her dream furniture and showed me a 8000 euro big sofa couch she wants to buy by next year. (my sofa I got for free from some other student)
She was showing me a dress she goes to raves/festivals with that costed several hundred euros, and then for the next rave she needs a new outfit. (I wear same shit every time and way cheaper)

All of this behavior, while wageslaving fulltime for 20 euro/hour. :lul::lul::lul:

8000 euro big sofa is 400 hours of wageslaving PURELY for this one purchase. But then you don't even account for taxes so it's more like 600 hours.

I just don't understand how someone can wageslave for 600 hours to buy a sofa, this idea is so fucking insane to me I can't simply comprehend it at all.


Am I mentally ill for not being into modern consumerism?

Not the first person I know who spends insane amounts of money on bullshit like a sofa or a dress you wear once.

It simply makes no sense to work full-time if you are not a materialistic consumer addict tbh. What the fuck do you even spend all the money on?
Real Life isn't that tough as they tell you growing up lol
It's just that normies are horrible when it comes to managing their money so it's tough for them
If you live alone aka not taking care of any children then minimum wage is genuinely more than enough to live very very comfortably
 
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Real Life isn't that tough as they tell you growing up lol
It's just that normies are horrible when it comes to managing their money so it's tough for them
If you live alone aka not taking care of any children then minimum wage is genuinely more than enough to live very very comfortably
as long as you stay away from women, u'll always have enough money without too much effort tbh.
 
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Literally when I want a new piece of furniture I stroll around the city looking for bulky waste (Sperrmüll in Germany, you put it ouside your house to get rid of it so easy to find here)

Always found what I wanted. New chair, new sofa, new wardrobe.

And I also never replace things until they are completly broken, my phone is old and slow as fuck (giga non-NT trait)

I pirate all media that exists digitally.
There's also ppl who just donate their stuff in online shopping apps
I bought my sofa for 1€ from a guy who was moving out to a house which already has a sofa and since he was too lazy to just throw it out he just put it on for free lol
It's massive and completely clean and in perfect conditions, literally brand new
 
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Women are fucking retarded when it comes to money.
i read that most of the economy is actually fuelled by female consumerism

its no wonder the powers that be made housewives a backwards, barbaric Taboo.
They know women spend like maniacs while men have minimalist tendencies

if it was up to men, most shite in the markets would eventually disappear
 
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Most people aren’t rich off stocks alone, typically they’re great at expanding wealth once you already have it.

The best hedge fund managers in the world return around 16% yearly. Options trading is maybe what you’re thinking of, where people can make thousands daily. The problem with options is the risk involved, its much higher compared to stocks but the return potential is also insane
Brutal truth. Stocks require massive startup money, massive expertise and a few decades to make big money.
We'll be in a different era by the time share dividends mean anything big.

I guess its one of those things good for retirement age and starting your own generational wealth dynasty though.
 
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lol so you don't really enjoy looksmaxing
Only deluded autists think they do

It's an Indian meme

There is nothing to enjoy about it. Fixing failos is a chore and long process. Thankfully I'm not deluded like half the people talking about implants, so I'm just fixing a basic but important feature (chin, already consulted ramieri to see if I required bimax)
 
In the US you need a PHD yes but not the extra shit

And it’s basically a guaranteed six figures + benefits
thats a lot of effort for no reward, you can get six figures in the US with less than half the effort and IQ required.

why would anyone do this unless you're some GIGA-physics AUTIST who has 0 other things he wants to do in his life.
 
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I've never referred to your effort when it comes to dates, approaches and outings. You've showed this clearly before.
don't know what you are yapping about then.
i realize that I leave a lot of 'potential' untapped but that's only when you consider my present life circumstances and disregard the fact that I am mentally broken + destroyed from a BROKEN childhood.

parentel abuse+bullying and way more. People who tell me I 'waste my potential' like to forget that every fucking day in my life I am fighting my personality disorders and traumatic emotional responses to life. This drains my energy, makes me socially isolate, makes me feel defeated and weak.

It's extremely brutal when people tell you you are 'wasting your life' when every day I fight like hell just to survive and keep my shit together.

Case in point: Socializing for normal people is fun and interesting. For me it's a brutal war in my mind where I constantly feel unwelcome, not good enough, broken and it is non-stop pouring of effort to even make it happen.
Enjoyment? Never.


I've had the opposite fortune relationship-wise yet now need the career/ LMS path instead.
Dont forget to appreciate what you have (had).
I didn't know about your millionairemaxxing efforts.
I gambled hard on financial derivatives in 2018-2019 era. I borrowed ~70k from my government, student-loans, meant to be used for study expenses. I 'gambled' all that on financial derivative plays on the stock-market.

My strategy/idea worked, I got to ~300k net-worth. But I realized that the reason I am doing is to feel valued, to 'fix my depression'. And having 300k didn't fix my depression. So I kept going and going, trying to become a millionaire, lost it all.

Now I am back to risky leveraged stock-investing. I have a ~200k portfolio
Goodstart

but it is leveraged hard, my net-worth is only ~60k (rest is borrowed money from my broker).

Heavily leveraged stock-investing is my current strategy of trying to get rich.

I don't even know if you're still advancing in education or why/ how you're allowed to be in student dorms jfl, may I ask if you could enlighten me on them, please?
theres no limit to how long I can study. I am enrolled at my university and can therefore stay in cheap student-dorms at age 28 and can do it for years to come.

I've not attented a single lecture for 7 years, only some parties/events n stuff. I've been trying to finish this degree but my depression doesn't allow it.

I still see myself getting this degree at some point even though I don't believe it has much value though.
 
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Very similar to me.

Poor asf but always excelled in school, top1%, so went to the elite schools that only had rich kids.

Didnt help my social status either when everyone is wearing designer while in my cousins throw away clothing
It’s a terrible reality to live. Legit came home from school pissed off half the time
 
Sorry this tab got buried in with the others.
don't know what you are yapping about then.
You did actually you made a good effort of a response.:feelshmm: I referred to my previous knowledge of you, being all effort into dating/relationships/social outgoing etc but having no idea about your money/grind/career experiences effort.
i realize that I leave a lot of 'potential' untapped but that's only when you consider my present life circumstances and disregard the fact that I am mentally broken + destroyed from a BROKEN childhood.
Fuck it.
parentel abuse+bullying and way more. People who tell me I 'waste my potential' like to forget that every fucking day in my life I am fighting my personality disorders and traumatic emotional responses to life. This drains my energy, makes me socially isolate, makes me feel defeated and weak.
Law of attraction is law, you have to believe you want it. Then comes analytics.
It's extremely brutal when people tell you you are 'wasting your life' when every day I fight like hell just to survive and keep my shit together.
Outside of basic needs to meet monthly or weekly, how much of a fight or struggle are you in? Purely curious.
Case in point: Socializing for normal people is fun and interesting. For me it's a brutal war in my mind where I constantly feel unwelcome, not good enough, broken and it is non-stop pouring of effort to even make it happen.
Enjoyment? Never.
I see yet it is that voice in your head that you have to ignore and convert into what is ultimately what is wanted in the long term. Slaying, health, success, fear into ambition etc. Another way is to go into whatever situation with a basic conversation turn seductive sense of not having expectations. Seducemaxxing is key.
Dont forget to appreciate what you have (had).
Even she wishes me the best. Though back I'm unsure. I regret how it played out. Though I wonder with my goals how it would have played out? This idea of keeping a virgin-to-virgin LTR into eternity and not remaining complacent vs wanting to fuck all the beauties of europe.
I gambled hard on financial derivatives in 2018-2019 era. I borrowed ~70k from my government, student-loans, meant to be used for study expenses. I 'gambled' all that on financial derivative plays on the stock-market.

My strategy/idea worked, I got to ~300k net-worth. But I realized that the reason I am doing is to feel valued, to 'fix my depression'. And having 300k didn't fix my depression. So I kept going and going, trying to become a millionaire, lost it all.
Takes more than money. Activity, adventure, ambition in outside world/ validation from reality/ legacypill is key. @forevergymcelling and people here who are serious about taking control, trial and error will attest to it as they are the ones that are both infuriated but also contend to having put in effort, unlike most of the losers here who are far gone.

Read this if you haven't. This explanation is best of the best worthy.

Because at it's foundation, this topic only goes in circles and it's like anything that requires maintenence. It's brutal how much time I feel you/ we/ I've wasted on it. It's the same shit. Remember that optimism is a choice.

One analytical way of observing depression is perhaps seeing you post count and identifying how much of it is actually towards what matters and is helpful besides what isn't and resorting to those habits. Happy or sad, being productive is still better. It's the basis to my ideology of life as the game, Snakes & Ladders.
Now I am back to risky leveraged stock-investing. I have a ~200k portfolio
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but it is leveraged hard, my net-worth is only ~60k (rest is borrowed money from my broker).

Heavily leveraged stock-investing is my current strategy of trying to get rich.
Don't forget to appreciate what you have (had). Your condolence back to you. Greed can be a bitch. Were you going to spend it on looksmaxxing but then again I don't know of the top of my head a single outlying thing to change except the mind.

Seriously 'mirin. Though I don't know how any of this works unless its on a Bank app and you choose who to put money into like with savings accounts.
theres no limit to how long I can study. I am enrolled at my university and can therefore stay in cheap student-dorms at age 28 and can do it for years to come.

I've not attented a single lecture for 7 years, only some parties/events n stuff. I've been trying to finish this degree but my depression doesn't allow it.

I still see myself getting this degree at some point even though I don't believe it has much value though.
In the long run, I'm not sure this was a good idea as it breeds complacency but with the amount of money you earned you would have been able to have progressed into a career or at least a better quality/ status home.
 
Literally when I want a new piece of furniture I stroll around the city looking for bulky waste (Sperrmüll in Germany, you put it ouside your house to get rid of it so easy to find here)

Always found what I wanted. New chair, new sofa, new wardrobe.

And I also never replace things until they are completly broken, my phone is old and slow as fuck (giga non-NT trait)

I pirate all media that exists digitally.
Just make sure you're using a VPN, Germans are notorious for fining you for a fuckton of Euros over that stuff
 

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