I declined my orthodontist offer for attaching elastics to my Maxillary incisors

[Htobrother]

he wanted to put elastics on my maxillary canines to the lower so it aligns to the midline
i declined and i explained that it will remodel to an unforavable position where it will increase facial height
i told him to keep expanding my upper arch and protract me front incisors and intrude the front molars which i had great sucess it fixed my deep bite by 40% we saw it on xray and pictures
only one side of the maxilla doesnt bite perfectly the lower arch cuz of the RPE expanion
what can i suggest him to get the lower arch wider? without causing troubble

whats your your thoughts on this did i do it right?

 

[sub5anomaly]

dnr

 

[Htobrother]

dnr

i thoughts its a site to help eachother

 

[darodcel]

i thoughts its a site to help eachother

Ignore those retards

 

[IOS]

he wanted to put elastics on my maxillary canines to the lower so it aligns to the midline
i declined and i explained that it will remodel to an unforavable position where it will increase facial height
i told him to keep expanding my upper arch and protract me front incisors and intrude the front molars which i had great sucess it fixed my deep bite by 40% we saw it on xray and pictures
only one side of the maxilla doesnt bite perfectly the lower arch cuz of the RPE expanion
what can i suggest him to get the lower arch wider? without causing troubble

whats your your thoughts on this did i do it right?

so u made the doctor listen to ur methods?

 

[Htobrother]

Ignore those retards

i already do brother i mean we want to get better and help each other with our wisdom and experiences not the mainstream shit

 

[Htobrother]

so u made the doctor listen to ur methods?

yes with good sucess

 

[Htobrother]

so u made the doctor listen to ur methods?

he wanted to retract my incisors and basically do the standart program at first

 

[IOS]

he wanted to retract my incisors and basically do the standart program at first

yes with good success

how u got to know more than the doc bro
i mean u did ur work better than he could right

 

[Htobrother]

yes we can say that i explained to him what i value in my treatment i want aesthetics and not just straight theeth he is aware of ny knowledge and respects that

how u got to know more than the doc bro
i mean u did ur work better than he could right

 

[IOS]

yes we can say that i explained to him what i value in my treatment i want aesthetics and not just straight theeth he is aware of ny knowledge and respects that

how u got this much surgeon knowledge?

 

[NZb6Air]

@Melly This is why it's cope, just do segmented lf1 for controlled expansion or atleast custom marpe

what can i suggest him to get the lower arch wider? without causing troubble

and how are u gonna do that buddy? are u even young enough to try quad helix for asymmetrical expansion or TAD

 

[Htobrother]

@Melly This is why it's cope, just do segmented lf1 for controlled expansion or atleast custom marpe



and how are u gonna do that buddy? are u even young enough to try quad helix for asymmetrical expansion or TAD

im 22 brother

 

[Htobrother]

how u got this much surgeon knowledge?

years of research of orthodontic studies since im 16 also john mew

 

[Htobrother]

@Melly This is why it's cope, just do segmented lf1 for controlled expansion or atleast custom marpe



and how are u gonna do that buddy? are u even young enough to try quad helix for asymmetrical expansion or TAD

lower quad helix? should i suggest this to my orthodontist
he only uses the braces to expand the arch where is apperantly not effective no bone added only theeth tipping lower

 

[NZb6Air]

im 22 brother

Surgery

 

[Htobrother]

Surgery

which one exactly
its not bad but it would be way better with wider lower arch

 

[NZb6Air]

which one exactly
its not bad but it would be way better with wider lower arch

segmented lf1, multipiece mandible are how u control the widths of the jaws

 

[Htobrother]

segmented lf1, multipiece mandible are how u control the widths of the jaws

great wisdom , whats that brother an appliance´? first time i hear it pls enlighten me on it thx

 

[MA_ascender]

segmented lf1, multipiece mandible are how u control the widths of the jaws

good morning, sir




i did well on my exam saar

 

[Htobrother]

good morning, sir




i did well on my exam saar

for sure, great you all are smart guys actually but too lazy to take action

 

[NZb6Air]

great wisdom , whats that brother an appliance´? first time i hear it pls enlighten me on it thx

surgery nigga, u split the mandible in 2, 3 or 5, and u split the lefort 1 area in 3 usually and then u can adjust to the width u want

good morning, sir




i did well on my exam saar

which one

 

[Htobrother]

surgery nigga, u split the mandible in 2, 3 or 5, and u split the lefort 1 area in 3 usually and then u can adjust to the width u want

which one

my theory says you have to exert constant force horizontaly on both molars at the back then it will add bone mass after a time or you just pull outwards with your fingers daily which is too energy demanding but over time it will widen and stay like that
its wollfs law of bone better create a piece that applies force to the mandibular body from the inside without tipping and affecting the roots
@NZb6Air dont laugh bone is constantly changing if you sit in a chair assymetrically for 3 months in one position you gonna deform yourself applies to every bone

 

[NZb6Air]

on both molars

will just flare them out, dentoalveolar not bone

 

[MA_ascender]

surgery nigga, u split the mandible in 2, 3 or 5, and u split the lefort 1 area in 3 usually and then u can adjust to the width u want

which one

PC, i had fucked up the last one even tho it was pretty easy bcs i misunderstood a question and it all cascaded into the following questions



this one was actually pretty fun, chromatographie sur couche mince (dead easy), methodes d'extractions + hydrodistillation (water info), and muh Mouvement (actually boring, same shit as last year rehashed (the thing with muh equation horaire and shieeet)


i wanna get a 20 ong

 

[Htobrother]

will just flare them out, dentoalveolar not bone

yes way easier thx bone is too hardcore

 

[NZb6Air]

yes way easier thx bone is too hardcore

won't add bonemass nigga, will just flare out ur teeth

PC, i had fucked up the last one even tho it was pretty easy bcs i misunderstood a question and it all cascaded into the following questions



this one was actually pretty fun, chromatographie sur couche mince (dead easy), methodes d'extractions + hydrodistillation (water info), and muh Mouvement (actually boring, same shit as last year rehashed (the thing with muh equation horaire and shieeet)


i wanna get a 20 ong

wp

 

[Htobrother]

yes way easier thx bone is too hardcore

@NZb6Air dont bring me into crazy ideas i will do it for 6 months where i push them outward like you said you will see it will widen the arch

 

[Htobrother]

won't add bonemass nigga, will just flare out ur teeth


wp

you will add a little bit have to other wise you cant flare out theeth
our better said remodel

 

[MA_ascender]

won't add bonemass nigga, will just flare out ur teeth


wp

no exam for your height

 

[Htobrother]

no exam for your height

Height is a thing im 6ft 1 thankful for that but dont make it a limiting belief i see many short guys fuck a lot of girls

 

[zub111]

he wanted to put elastics on my maxillary canines to the lower so it aligns to the midline
i declined and i explained that it will remodel to an unforavable position where it will increase facial height
i told him to keep expanding my upper arch and protract me front incisors and intrude the front molars which i had great sucess it fixed my deep bite by 40% we saw it on xray and pictures
only one side of the maxilla doesnt bite perfectly the lower arch cuz of the RPE expanion
what can i suggest him to get the lower arch wider? without causing troubble

whats your your thoughts on this did i do it right?

niceee good knowledge

 

[Melly]

@Melly This is why it's cope, just do segmented lf1 for controlled expansion or atleast custom marpe



and how are u gonna do that buddy? are u even young enough to try quad helix for asymmetrical expansion or TAD

Honestly i dont under this nigga post at all he tales about RPE but claims to be 22 yo so his ortho just flares his palate?! And how does elastics gonna increase his facial height when his jaws are fully formed? How does all of this is gonna adress bone growth pattern in anyway when most of the time niggas with deep bite have low anterior facial height and their mandibles and chins are too flat?

 

[moreroidsmoredates]

Honestly i dont under this nigga post at all he tales about RPE but claims to be 22 yo so his ortho just flares his palate?! And how does elastics gonna increase his facial height when his jaws are fully formed? How does all of this is gonna adress bone growth pattern in anyway when most of the time niggas with deep bite have low anterior facial height and their mandibles and chins are too flat?

Fixing a deep bite with orthodontics will result in more maxillary recession, right?
How else is it going to get fixed?

 

[NZb6Air]

Honestly i dont under this nigga post at all he tales about RPE but claims to be 22 yo so his ortho just flares his palate?! And how does elastics gonna increase his facial height when his jaws are fully formed? How does all of this is gonna adress bone growth pattern in anyway when most of the time niggas with deep bite have low anterior facial height and their mandibles and chins are too flat?

will just give him gummy smile if we're talking up to down, won't higher his facial height

 

[BimaxLaser]

will just give him gummy smile if we're talking up to down, won't higher his facial height

Does a segmented lf1 push the cheekbones out more or not really, cause of it does I cant get it cause theyre already making me look strange

 

[NZb6Air]

d lf1 push the cheekbones out more or not really,

no it's lf1 cut

 

[BimaxLaser]

no it's lf1 cut

You're right that was a retarded question

 

[Melly]

will just give him gummy smile if we're talking up to down, won't higher his facial height

So i have booked a consultation for this december with a surgeon to tell if my arches are ready for advancement but no surgeon in my country knows how to do multi piece mandible (no coceancig ahh successors) and i cant go for just lefort 1 segmental bc both of my arches are pretty even to each other and i dont want to wait anymore i just want my lower third to be finally projected i think i can just go for revision in 5 years to get both jaws wider after i get my international passport and other shit together the only thing that concern me in such scenario is if the genio plates will fuse with mandible and not allow for multi piece after?

 

[Tenzen Thenziro]

he wanted to put elastics on my maxillary canines to the lower so it aligns to the midline
i declined and i explained that it will remodel to an unforavable position where it will increase facial height
i told him to keep expanding my upper arch and protract me front incisors and intrude the front molars which i had great sucess it fixed my deep bite by 40% we saw it on xray and pictures
only one side of the maxilla doesnt bite perfectly the lower arch cuz of the RPE expanion
what can i suggest him to get the lower arch wider? without causing troubble

whats your your thoughts on this did i do it right?

How old are you?

 

[caiolindo]

he wanted to put elastics on my maxillary canines to the lower so it aligns to the midline
i declined and i explained that it will remodel to an unforavable position where it will increase facial height
i told him to keep expanding my upper arch and protract me front incisors and intrude the front molars which i had great sucess it fixed my deep bite by 40% we saw it on xray and pictures
only one side of the maxilla doesnt bite perfectly the lower arch cuz of the RPE expanion
what can i suggest him to get the lower arch wider? without causing troubble

whats your your thoughts on this did i do it right?

no lol

 

[HandsomeOrDeath]

he wanted to retract my incisors and basically do the standart program at first

The reason they have a standard program is because it works The elastics bring your lower jaw forward as well! You might end up with a significant overjet now and need jaw surgery! What did he say about your worries of retracting your maxilla?

 

[Htobrother]

The reason they have a standard program is because it works The elastics bring your lower jaw forward as well! You might end up with a significant overjet now and need jaw surgery! What did he say about your worries of retracting your maxilla?

how it can bring your lower jaw forward when you retract the maxilla automatically your lower jaw will go back
look at the studies and results it always results in longer face usually look at orthotropics how they do it